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Matanga
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:24:00 -
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Actually there was a Dragon before.......
but it died because it couldn't breath in outer space 
"ÆIn accordance with the principles of double-think it does not matter if the war is not real. For when it is, victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, but it is meant to be continuous.Æö
George Orwell ô1984ö |
Matanga
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Posted - 2004.08.13 13:24:00 -
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Actually there was a Dragon before.......
but it died because it couldn't breath in outer space
"ÆIn accordance with the principles of double-think it does not matter if the war is not real. For when it is, victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, but it is meant to be continuous.Æö
George Orwell ô1984ö |
Hematic
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:10:00 -
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Well the PvE goal of DAOC was bigger and badder MOBs true. However similar to Eve the end game is PvP.
To me Eve is very similar. You start out doing PvE, and create a base of money making facilities. ie you have a skills, equipment, agents etc... that can make you money pretty fast for when you lose your gear in combat.
However, and this is debatable. Comabt PvP in eve either does better or worse because of the time required to get new gear. Some people love the fact that losing a ship stings a bit others hate it.
I think at this point it strikes a decent balance, although there are still fringe players on both sides that think it's too one way or the other.
Eve will likely never have events that require hundreds of people because someone will go on a griefing spree, chaos will ensue and next thing you know a 100 pods are floating around and everyone is going 'wtf?'
So for better or for worse eve took a different model. Because of bad lag I would say that initially that was a good thought. However as it becomes more stable eve will have problems being able to include everyone in events they will always be a fraction of the player base.
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Hematic
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:10:00 -
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Well the PvE goal of DAOC was bigger and badder MOBs true. However similar to Eve the end game is PvP.
To me Eve is very similar. You start out doing PvE, and create a base of money making facilities. ie you have a skills, equipment, agents etc... that can make you money pretty fast for when you lose your gear in combat.
However, and this is debatable. Comabt PvP in eve either does better or worse because of the time required to get new gear. Some people love the fact that losing a ship stings a bit others hate it.
I think at this point it strikes a decent balance, although there are still fringe players on both sides that think it's too one way or the other.
Eve will likely never have events that require hundreds of people because someone will go on a griefing spree, chaos will ensue and next thing you know a 100 pods are floating around and everyone is going 'wtf?'
So for better or for worse eve took a different model. Because of bad lag I would say that initially that was a good thought. However as it becomes more stable eve will have problems being able to include everyone in events they will always be a fraction of the player base.
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xthril
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:23:00 -
[35]
 Originally by: Cen Varis
I've heard lots of bad things about the "pirate Cao Cao".
He did say that players make the content. Someone have to take the role as a badguy 
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xthril
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Cen Varis
I've heard lots of bad things about the "pirate Cao Cao".
He did say that players make the content. Someone have to take the role as a badguy
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Cen Varis
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:06:00 -
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hehe.
If the "feared pirate" talks like that - its worlds more intelligent than some of the rants i've read on this board... i might have to throw my lot in with the pirates :)
Interstellat Cartographic League
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Cen Varis
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Posted - 2004.08.13 15:06:00 -
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hehe.
If the "feared pirate" talks like that - its worlds more intelligent than some of the rants i've read on this board... i might have to throw my lot in with the pirates :)
Interstellat Cartographic League
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Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:51:00 -
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One thing I really like about Eve is the fact that, unlike games such as DAOC and Lineage 2, in-game currency actually has many outlets with which to leave the game. The devs are able to control inflation, and although we HAVE seen continuous inflation, it is NOTHING to the degree of inflation seen in these other games.
In Eve there is a fully programmed, well thought-out market system which adds a dynamic that few other games can rival. Normally in a game with an economic model as advanced as here, the action side is vastly diminished . . . but not in Eve! Though sometimes you have to wait a good while before action takes place, nothing has set my heart pumping and adrenaline flowing like the heat of battle in this game . . .
Shia
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Shia Dai
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Posted - 2004.08.13 20:51:00 -
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One thing I really like about Eve is the fact that, unlike games such as DAOC and Lineage 2, in-game currency actually has many outlets with which to leave the game. The devs are able to control inflation, and although we HAVE seen continuous inflation, it is NOTHING to the degree of inflation seen in these other games.
In Eve there is a fully programmed, well thought-out market system which adds a dynamic that few other games can rival. Normally in a game with an economic model as advanced as here, the action side is vastly diminished . . . but not in Eve! Though sometimes you have to wait a good while before action takes place, nothing has set my heart pumping and adrenaline flowing like the heat of battle in this game . . .
Shia
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Jay Gatsby
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Posted - 2004.08.13 21:07:00 -
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Do not try and kill the dragon. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.
What truth?
There is no dragon...
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Jay Gatsby
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Posted - 2004.08.13 21:07:00 -
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Do not try and kill the dragon. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.
What truth?
There is no dragon...
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2004.08.13 22:53:00 -
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actually they are adding dungeons (yeah the dragons are the tons of bses there ;p but they are for groups and stuff and of course they are just adding u obviously can go on like now >< and of course theres a dragon, its rule the universe. sorry though i already beat it :D
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2004.08.13 22:53:00 -
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actually they are adding dungeons (yeah the dragons are the tons of bses there ;p but they are for groups and stuff and of course they are just adding u obviously can go on like now >< and of course theres a dragon, its rule the universe. sorry though i already beat it :D
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Thernir Merenthis
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Posted - 2004.08.13 23:00:00 -
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Quote:
Eve is constantly changing. New Items introduced, new missions, new noobs. It's great.......
LMAO
Nice one
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Thernir Merenthis
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Posted - 2004.08.13 23:00:00 -
[46]
Quote:
Eve is constantly changing. New Items introduced, new missions, new noobs. It's great.......
LMAO
Nice one
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2004.08.13 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jay Gatsby
Do not try and kill the dragon. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.
What truth?
There is no dragon...
Jay! I used to read that comic from your sig....it was awesome! I forget what it was though....do you have a link?
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Gavin Kineli
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Posted - 2004.08.13 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jay Gatsby
Do not try and kill the dragon. That's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth.
What truth?
There is no dragon...
Jay! I used to read that comic from your sig....it was awesome! I forget what it was though....do you have a link?
Play The BIG Lottery! |
Skelator
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Posted - 2004.08.13 23:29:00 -
[49]
STICKY PLEASE
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Skelator
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Posted - 2004.08.13 23:29:00 -
[50]
STICKY PLEASE
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2004.08.13 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ca0 Ca0
Okay so I was thinking today . . . about Eve Online and how it is SO different from any other game I've played. In most games, even in most MMORPGs, there is an ultimate "goal" to be achieved. For example, in Dark Age of Camelot (the game I played for a couple years before coming to Eve), there were dungeons at every stage of the game, and each dungeon generally had a Boss that you had to kill. Eventually, you got to the Badder dungeons where even at the highest levels, you needed a group to kill the Boss. And the epic quests and events - slaying the dragons for example - you needed multiple groups, even hundreds, of people to accomplish the task.
In that game, there was always a dragon to slay, a purpose to strive for. In Eve, there isn't. But is that really such a bad thing?
I was thinking about that the other day - why the game goes on, and why people play. And that's when I realized that Eve is special in that way. You don't NEED any dragons in Eve - the game is designed in a such a way that the content is driven entirely by the players. Players organizing themselves and striving to achieve whatever goals they set for themselves, fill whatever role they choose, is what this game is all about. It reminds me of an old old game I used to play (single player) called Dark Lands.
So when you wonder and ask, "What is the point here? How do I slay the Dragon in Eve Online?" just remember that the dragon is whatever your imagination makes it out to be! Be you a mercenary, pirate, industrialist, or merchant, you won't ever see a "point" to playing Eve Online unless you create it yourself!
And that IS the point of Eve Online, and what makes it so awesome!
Cheers,
Cao Cao
The Pirate Syndicate
Justice Officer
/me drops a can "Here be Dragons"
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2004.08.13 23:39:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Ca0 Ca0
Okay so I was thinking today . . . about Eve Online and how it is SO different from any other game I've played. In most games, even in most MMORPGs, there is an ultimate "goal" to be achieved. For example, in Dark Age of Camelot (the game I played for a couple years before coming to Eve), there were dungeons at every stage of the game, and each dungeon generally had a Boss that you had to kill. Eventually, you got to the Badder dungeons where even at the highest levels, you needed a group to kill the Boss. And the epic quests and events - slaying the dragons for example - you needed multiple groups, even hundreds, of people to accomplish the task.
In that game, there was always a dragon to slay, a purpose to strive for. In Eve, there isn't. But is that really such a bad thing?
I was thinking about that the other day - why the game goes on, and why people play. And that's when I realized that Eve is special in that way. You don't NEED any dragons in Eve - the game is designed in a such a way that the content is driven entirely by the players. Players organizing themselves and striving to achieve whatever goals they set for themselves, fill whatever role they choose, is what this game is all about. It reminds me of an old old game I used to play (single player) called Dark Lands.
So when you wonder and ask, "What is the point here? How do I slay the Dragon in Eve Online?" just remember that the dragon is whatever your imagination makes it out to be! Be you a mercenary, pirate, industrialist, or merchant, you won't ever see a "point" to playing Eve Online unless you create it yourself!
And that IS the point of Eve Online, and what makes it so awesome!
Cheers,
Cao Cao
The Pirate Syndicate
Justice Officer
/me drops a can "Here be Dragons"
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Kleric
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Posted - 2004.08.14 00:20:00 -
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STECKEH!!!or in other words ... STICKY!!
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Kleric
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Posted - 2004.08.14 00:20:00 -
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STECKEH!!!or in other words ... STICKY!!
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Zenst
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Posted - 2004.08.14 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: SithEwok
xanadu are the dragons, the weird thing.. it dont take many to kill them.
 dude, see a new doctor as that medication is NOT working. Whats the count 3-4 BS we killed of yours in past few weeks, keep it comming. All I have to say on this realy.
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Zenst
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Posted - 2004.08.14 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: SithEwok
xanadu are the dragons, the weird thing.. it dont take many to kill them.
dude, see a new doctor as that medication is NOT working. Whats the count 3-4 BS we killed of yours in past few weeks, keep it comming. All I have to say on this realy.
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Lone Dragon
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Posted - 2004.08.14 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Lone Dragon on 14/08/2004 01:45:42
As you can see, there are dragons in Eve.
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Lone Dragon
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Posted - 2004.08.14 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: Lone Dragon on 14/08/2004 01:45:42
As you can see, there are dragons in Eve.
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Lone Dragon
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Posted - 2004.08.14 01:45:00 -
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Ah, finally someone understands!
Originally by: Jay Gatsby
Do not try and kill the dragon. That's impossible.
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Lone Dragon
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Posted - 2004.08.14 01:45:00 -
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Ah, finally someone understands!
Originally by: Jay Gatsby
Do not try and kill the dragon. That's impossible.
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