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Vrikshaka 0ff-Peak Esoteric Cutthroats	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:36:00 - [1] Originally by: CCP Abathur Originally by: Vrikshaka If in front of a wormhole that leads to K-space, will you receive any info as to what sec rating the target system has? Or will any < -5.0 player risk getting concordokkened due to ending up in a 0.5-1.0 system? No. Yes. Bonus points if you can answer where the term Concordokken originated. A bit imprecise on my part of course; obviously this also includes up to -2.0 players getting vaporized when exiting a wormhole that leads to a 1.0 system, etc. V
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:41:00 - [2] Outlaws don't get concordokkened, for one… (Well, unless they attack an illegal target while in highsec, that is) ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:43:00 - [3] Originally by: Vrikshaka Originally by: CCP Abathur Originally by: Vrikshaka If in front of a wormhole that leads to K-space, will you receive any info as to what sec rating the target system has? Or will any < -5.0 player risk getting concordokkened due to ending up in a 0.5-1.0 system? No. Yes. Bonus points if you can answer where the term Concordokken originated. A bit imprecise on my part of course; obviously this also includes up to -2.0 players getting vaporized when exiting a wormhole that leads to a 1.0 system, etc. V You won't get vaporized; the 'police' aren't that good so if you have an MWD you can probably just go back the way you came. If you got CONCORD on you though, then you'd instapop. - Infectious -
Agent Unknown Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Vrikshaka Originally by: CCP Abathur Originally by: Vrikshaka If in front of a wormhole that leads to K-space, will you receive any info as to what sec rating the target system has? Or will any < -5.0 player risk getting concordokkened due to ending up in a 0.5-1.0 system? No. Yes. Bonus points if you can answer where the term Concordokken originated. A bit imprecise on my part of course; obviously this also includes up to -2.0 players getting vaporized when exiting a wormhole that leads to a 1.0 system, etc. V Bonus points?!? You mean this? Or was that inspired by the original...? ----------------------------------- "What can go wrong, will go wrong."
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:45:00 - [5] Wormholes have the same restrictions as gates. If you can't enter a system via a gate (due to it being hisec and you having negative sec, for instance), you won't be able to enter it via wormhole. No concordokken ... just can't do it.
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:45:00 - [6] W-Space will be fine for pirates, as far as I am aware W-Holes found in 0.0 will generally remain accessible to 0.0 and empire W-Holes will remain accessible to empire systems. So as long as pies aren't exploring in hi-sec then the chance of them leaving a W-Hole and being shot up is slim. Also, since when does CONCORD shoot you because you have a low security status, it's the local faction police that shoot you, not CONCORD.
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:46:00 - [7] Originally by: Ruze Wormholes have the same restrictions as gates. If you can't enter a system via a gate (due to it being hisec and you having negative sec, for instance), you won't be able to enter it via wormhole. No concordokken ... just can't do it. You sir have no idea how Eve works, please send me your stuff and go play WoW.
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Guard Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:47:00 - [8] Thought the show info bit tells you what sec it goes to... 'high-sec' should be good enough to tell pirates not to go through then. ----- Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be.
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:50:00 - [9] Well, this certainly deserved a new thread. And no, there's no "pirates" in W-Space because there's no criminal law, meaning it's all fair game. There's also no pirates in 0.0.
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:55:00 - [10] Originally by: Kirra Liu W-Space will be fine for pirates, as far as I am aware W-Holes found in 0.0 will generally remain accessible to 0.0 and empire W-Holes will remain accessible to empire systems. So as long as pies aren't exploring in hi-sec then the chance of them leaving a W-Hole and being shot up is slim. That's assuming the player stays in the first WH system they enter. If they go through several systems they'll have no idea where the next wormhole leads, and it might just be high-sec. New Eden Research, where your research gets done!
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:55:00 - [11] Originally by: Kirra Liu Originally by: Ruze Wormholes have the same restrictions as gates. If you can't enter a system via a gate (due to it being hisec and you having negative sec, for instance), you won't be able to enter it via wormhole. No concordokken ... just can't do it. You sir have no idea how Eve works, please send me your stuff and go play WoW. Funny, as insulting as you want to be, you actually caught me on a mistake. It's not sec status that prevents the jump ... it's capitals. Good catch, bad form. Thanks though.
Gieron Middleton and Mercer LLP Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:57:00 - [12] Also, AFAIK, faction police won't bother seeking you out in the middle of nowhere. They just hang around gates. So if you jump through a worm hole and discover you are in a bad place you can just jump back. Worst case scenario the worm hole closes before you can do that. But that would just mean that you have an extraordinarily bad day.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.03.09 14:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Gieron Also, AFAIK, faction police won't bother seeking you out in the middle of nowhere. They just hang around gates. So if you jump through a worm hole and discover you are in a bad place you can just jump back. Worst case scenario the worm hole closes before you can do that. But that would just mean that you have an extraordinarily bad day. Wonder if you can bookmark the W hole, pop some ******s AFKing in their Hulks, then jump back into the W-Hole. That'd be awesome. CCP I hope this is possible.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.09 15:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Ruze Wormholes have the same restrictions as gates. If you can't enter a system via a gate (due to it being hisec and you having negative sec, for instance), you won't be able to enter it via wormhole. No concordokken ... just can't do it. You can enter any system at any sec it's the consequences of doing so he's on about. just because your -10 sec doesnt mean a 1.0 gate will deny you access.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.09 15:18:00 - [15] Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Originally by: Ruze Wormholes have the same restrictions as gates. If you can't enter a system via a gate (due to it being hisec and you having negative sec, for instance), you won't be able to enter it via wormhole. No concordokken ... just can't do it. You can enter any system at any sec it's the consequences of doing so he's on about. just because your -10 sec doesnt mean a 1.0 gate will deny you access. Agreed. I was mistaken and thinking capitals instead of security status.
Jana Clant New Dawn Corp New Eden Research	Posted - 2009.03.09 15:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Gieron Also, AFAIK, faction police won't bother seeking you out in the middle of nowhere. They just hang around gates. So if you jump through a worm hole and discover you are in a bad place you can just jump back. Worst case scenario the worm hole closes before you can do that. But that would just mean that you have an extraordinarily bad day. Wonder if you can bookmark the W hole, pop some ****s AFKing in their Hulks, then jump back into the W-Hole. That'd be awesome. CCP I hope this is possible. Seeing as they stopped black ops ships from jumping out after attacking, my guess is you're out of luck. New Eden Research, where your research gets done!**
Vrikshaka 0ff-Peak Esoteric Cutthroats	Posted - 2009.03.09 15:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Tippia Outlaws don't get concordokkened, for oneà (Well, unless they attack an illegal target while in highsec, that is) Oops, my bad! Been too long since my last Anher/Arnher mistake... In my defense tho, looks like CCP Abathur made the same mistake: Originally by: CCP Abathur Originally by: Vrikshaka If in front of a wormhole that leads to K-space, will you receive any info as to what sec rating the target system has? Or will any < -5.0 player risk getting concordokkened due to ending up in a 0.5-1.0 system? No. Yes. Bonus points if you can answer where the term Concordokken originated. Originally by: Gieron Also, AFAIK, faction police won't bother seeking you out in the middle of nowhere. They just hang around gates. So if you jump through a worm hole and discover you are in a bad place you can just jump back. Can anyone verify this? Sorry, bit of a noob with hisec do's and dont's here. Originally by: Faife And no, there's no "pirates" in W-Space because there's no criminal law, meaning it's all fair game. There's also no pirates in 0.0. You're a pirate going in and you're a pirate coming out again, no matter whether it's 0.0 or w-space. Ofc in this case I'm talking about pilots who are outlaws in the eyes of the faction police; i.e. that have a security rating low enough to warrant being shot on sight.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.03.09 15:32:00 - [18] Nah, they come after you everywhere after you triggered them (now, whether entering the system via a wormhole triggers them or not, it's a completely different question), but they're avoidable, and they don't scramble, so you can warp off to, say, a planet, then back on the WHole, then GTFO back where you came from. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
Kulmid Asshats and Alcoholics Turbo.	Posted - 2009.03.09 16:11:00 - [19] Originally by: Agent Unknown Bonus points?!? You mean this? Or was that inspired by the original...? That is indeed the original. _________________
Shirley Serious Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra	Posted - 2009.03.09 17:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Kirra Liu Also, since when does CONCORD shoot you because you have a low security status, it's the local faction police that shoot you, not CONCORD. I seem to recall reading something about the systems with CONCORD sovereignty. There, the faction police ARE Concord, so if you make the mistake of jumping in, or the bad luck to exit a wormhole into them, then they will shoot you for having low sec status. Think that's the only case when you'll be shot by npcs just for having a low sec status. Yes. Yes, I am.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.03.09 17:53:00 - [21] Originally by: Kulmid Originally by: Agent Unknown Bonus points?!? You mean this? Or was that inspired by the original...? That is indeed the original. It doesn't really explain the origin of the term. What's with the '-dokken' suffix? There's a band called "Dokken", but I fail to see any connection between them and CONCORD.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.09 17:57:00 - [22] Originally by: Kyra Felann Originally by: Kulmid Originally by: Agent Unknown Bonus points?!? You mean this? Or was that inspired by the original...? That is indeed the original. It doesn't really explain the origin of the term. What's with the '-dokken' suffix? There's a band called "Dokken", but I fail to see any connection between them and CONCORD. That's actually from DragonballZ, as far as I know. One of the powerful attacks is supposed to be something-dokken, and they just substituted the original word with 'Concord'.
Khandara Seraphim StarHunt Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.03.09 18:00:00 - [23] It's from street fighter. Ryu's blue fireball move is called the "hadoken", and it's since become a meme to attach -dokken to anything that wtfpwns anything else ___________ Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.09 18:03:00 - [24] Originally by: Khandara Seraphim It's from street fighter. Ryu's blue fireball move is called the "hadoken", and it's since become a meme to attach -dokken to anything that wtfpwns anything else That was my other guess. Hahahah ...
Kazang Gallente Arbitrary Freedom	Posted - 2009.03.09 18:26:00 - [25] ConcordDragonPunch didn't have quite the same ring to it. Kazang
Myra2007 Shafrak Industries	Posted - 2009.03.09 18:30:00 - [26] Edited by: Myra2007 on 09/03/2009 18:30:32 dunno but the one wormhole on sisi that lead me into high security space actually told me so on a show info... maybe the dev was wrong? -- Originally by: kublai on Ankhesentapemkah That said, the "i'm a girl who plays your computer game and i'm not that ugly" has always been a certain winner in the mmo world

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