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Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries
Push Interstellar Network
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:28:00 -
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Hey everyone. This is mostly a thread pointed at CCP, so while I appreciate speculation, lulz and jocular I really just want CCP's answers.
Okay so, first a few questions:
1) Logging in was one thing. I'm safe to log in from the character screen. But if I'm hung up on a gate that is obviously changing the game a bit. Why is Jita being throttled when there are only 1900 (totally typical Jita occupancy number) people in it?
2) If I leave Jita to go do stuff other than be bored in station all day what are my chances of getting back in if you constantly have the stargates to Jita closed?
3) Since this is revolving around a war and since Goons got quite a few people during low-occupancy numbers and while the server was not being throttled, who is to say any of the 10 groups that declared war on them are going to be able to even get INTO Jita to pew pew?
Thanks for the responses. The most important thing is that others and myself can play unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there. I hope that CCP and the rest of the community can understand my reasons for this.
Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it.
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Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
732
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:32:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Hey everyone. This is mostly a thread pointed at CCP, so while I appreciate speculation, lulz and jocular I really just want CCP's answers.
Okay so, first a few questions:
1) Logging in was one thing. I'm safe to log in from the character screen. But if I'm hung up on a gate that is obviously changing the game a bit. Why is Jita being throttled when there are only 1900 (totally typical Jita occupancy number) people in it?
2) If I leave Jita to go do stuff other than be bored in station all day what are my chances of getting back in if you constantly have the stargates to Jita closed?
3) Since this is revolving around a war and since Goons got quite a few people during low-occupancy numbers and while the server was not being throttled, who is to say any of the 10 groups that declared war on them are going to be able to even get INTO Jita to pew pew?
Thanks for the responses. The most important thing is that others and myself can play unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there. I hope that CCP and the rest of the community can understand my reasons for this.
If you wanted answers from CCP, you should have petitioned. In before lock.
And no, you being able to play "unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there" is the most asinine thing I've read in a while. This is a Massively Multiplayer Online Game. You're basically demanding the right to play EVE as a single player game, and that's never going to work.
And oh yeah, here's a fun thought for you while you're thinking about things:
If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita. |
Spy 21
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
49
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:34:00 -
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Clone jump
"The next time airport security tells you to put your hands over your head and hold that vulnerable position for seven seconds, ask yourself: Is this the posture of a free man?" |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries
Push Interstellar Network
178
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:34:00 -
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Xython wrote:If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita.
Dude the gates are locked right now and the player count in Jita is fluctuating +/- quite a bit. It just dropped 100 and the gates are still locked.
Also since I think we both know that CCP reads the forums and cares about their community, they will respond with answers that are both forward-facing and as fair as possible to all parties.
Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it.
Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else.
Ingame channel: PUSHX |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
38
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:35:00 -
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Last night, I saw a high number of 2025 people in Local in Jita. I had zero issues undocking, leaving Jita, and returning to Jita - did it several times at the height of combat, shuttling lootz and getting better-suited ninja ships in place.
Biggest issue is when tidi got above 40% it became veeeerrry sloooow to do anything.
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
1041
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:35:00 -
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there's thousands of other systems you can go to
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
732
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:36:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Xython wrote:If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita. Dude the gates are locked right now and the player count in Jita is fluctuating +/- quite a bit. It just dropped 100 and the gates are still locked. Also since I think we both know that CCP reads the forums and cares about their community, they will respond with answers that are both forward-facing and as fair as possible to all parties.
They did respond, actually:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliant
If it's too long to read, let me sum it up for you:
CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up. |
Tyrion Struan
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:39:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:
3) Since this is revolving around a war
Uhmm, no? There is no war this revolves around. We just wanted to come to highsec and meet other eve players. Indeed, we'd very much like for you to get into Jita. Saying hello to you in Jita is pretty much what thiis is all about.
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Kriegman
Raging Ducks
Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:40:00 -
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Which part of JITA shutdown you don't get? We have stuffed the JITA local with goons and friends alts until none can log or jump in there. Then kill freighters or anything else on perimeter gates and elsewhere. |
Phugoid
BHEI Galactic Construction
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:40:00 -
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Hey Siigari:
I assume u are based out of Jita? which is your first big mistake!
It's like complaining about all the shooting thats going on in your Stalingrad neighborhood during WW2.
Just take the weekend off and you'll be ok come Monday.
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Abraxas666
Shockwave Innovations
Stellar Economy Experts
2
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:41:00 -
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Xython wrote:Siigari Kitawa wrote:Hey everyone. This is mostly a thread pointed at CCP, so while I appreciate speculation, lulz and jocular I really just want CCP's answers.
Okay so, first a few questions:
1) Logging in was one thing. I'm safe to log in from the character screen. But if I'm hung up on a gate that is obviously changing the game a bit. Why is Jita being throttled when there are only 1900 (totally typical Jita occupancy number) people in it?
2) If I leave Jita to go do stuff other than be bored in station all day what are my chances of getting back in if you constantly have the stargates to Jita closed?
3) Since this is revolving around a war and since Goons got quite a few people during low-occupancy numbers and while the server was not being throttled, who is to say any of the 10 groups that declared war on them are going to be able to even get INTO Jita to pew pew?
Thanks for the responses. The most important thing is that others and myself can play unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there. I hope that CCP and the rest of the community can understand my reasons for this. If you wanted answers from CCP, you should have petitioned. In before lock. And no, you being able to play "unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there" is the most asinine thing I've read in a while. This is a Massively Multiplayer Online Game. You're basically demanding the right to play EVE as a single player game, and that's never going to work. And oh yeah, here's a fun thought for you while you're thinking about things: If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita.
While EVE is a MMO and not a single player game it's very easy to remain "unaffected by this so it's like it wasn't there". It could possibly last what, a couple days? Granted Jita is by far the most used trading hub but it shouldn't be a stretch to stay away from the system for a few days. Try out Amarr? If you're stuck in Jita without a jump clone your best chance would be to shuttle out, if you die you'll only lose your implants. |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries
Push Interstellar Network
178
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:41:00 -
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Xython wrote:
CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.
Don't misinterpret keeping systems running smoothly for advocating the actions of one alliance.
Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it.
Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else.
Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Kalpel
KBM
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:43:00 -
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Xython wrote:Siigari Kitawa wrote:Xython wrote:If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita. Dude the gates are locked right now and the player count in Jita is fluctuating +/- quite a bit. It just dropped 100 and the gates are still locked. Also since I think we both know that CCP reads the forums and cares about their community, they will respond with answers that are both forward-facing and as fair as possible to all parties. They did respond, actually: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliantIf it's too long to read, let me sum it up for you: CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.
We'll see how " Absolutely brilliant " Jon Lander thinks it is when people look to another MMO for fun, Muhahahaha
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6310
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:47:00 -
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Kalpel wrote:We'll see how " Absolutely brilliant " Jon Lander thinks it is when people look to another MMO for fun, Muhahahaha Since, historically, it's exactly this kind of fun that has made people look at EVE, he'll probably continue to think it's absolutely brilliant.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1678
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:47:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Xython wrote:
CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.
Don't misinterpret keeping systems running smoothly for advocating the actions of one alliance.
Well, flat out stating that what the Goons are doing is ******* brilliant pretty much does actually.
CCP likes it when you take advantage of the open ended nature of the game, especially when the gaming media expresses shock at what is going on.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
187
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:49:00 -
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1) jita alt logs in fine
2) spam seems to be up quite a bit
3) market is running
4) if your just wanting to play the market then three are ways of doing it without being in jita...
5) lets see what happens over the weekend.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1678
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kalpel wrote:We'll see how " Absolutely brilliant " Jon Lander thinks it is when people look to another MMO for fun, Muhahahaha Since, historically, it's exactly this kind of fun that has made people look at EVE, he'll probably continue to think it's absolutely brilliant.
I sense another spike in the number of subscriptions on it's way.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Frio Rinah
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:53:00 -
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Kalpel wrote:
We'll see how " Absolutely brilliant " Jon Lander thinks it is when people look to another MMO for fun, Muhahahaha
Anyone who quits over a single weekend event is someone that would not have stuck around for the next subscription bill anyway.
In reality, its no loss. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1678
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Posted - 2012.04.27 15:53:00 -
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RaTTuS wrote:1) jita alt logs in fine
2) spam seems to be up quite a bit
3) market is running
4) if your just wanting to play the market then three are ways of doing it without being in jita...
5) lets see what happens over the weekend.
I would also keep in mind that in the US right now it is around lunch time on a Friday.
Things should start heating up in about 5 or 6 hours.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
734
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:01:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Xython wrote:
CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.
Don't misinterpret keeping systems running smoothly for advocating the actions of one alliance.
"Last night I got an email - Jita was at 2100. Time dilation kicked in at 15 per cent. And there were people just watching the sh*t that was going down. It was brilliant. It was absolutely great."
Lander added: "We want people to be able to do this. If Goonswarm want to do it, we want them to do it and we want them to have a great time doing it.
"The worst thing we could do is to stop it happening. It would be appalling for the game. It would be against everything we stand for."
What part of the above did you not understand, pubbie? CCP is on the side of the Sandbox. |
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Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries
Push Interstellar Network
178
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:03:00 -
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Xython wrote:Siigari Kitawa wrote:Xython wrote:
CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up.
Don't misinterpret keeping systems running smoothly for advocating the actions of one alliance. "Last night I got an email - Jita was at 2100. Time dilation kicked in at 15 per cent. And there were people just watching the sh*t that was going down. It was brilliant. It was absolutely great." Lander added: " We want people to be able to do this. If Goonswarm want to do it, we want them to do it and we want them to have a great time doing it. " The worst thing we could do is to stop it happening. It would be appalling for the game. It would be against everything we stand for." What part of the above did you not understand, pubbie? CCP is on the side of the Sandbox.
1) I have an active SA account, pubbie. You got :10bux:?
2) You don't seem to understand that what CCP is proud of is their servers staying up and kicking during this AND that players are having a good time. NOWHERE was it stated that they ENDORSE the actions taken by Goonswarm which is what you seem to be seeing, apparently. They want people to be able to do whatever they want in the game, they never put out details of any actions by anyone.
3) I have absolutely no issues with what's going on in Jita myself, I just want to know how it's going to affect my gameplay, which is the purpose of this thread.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:05:00 -
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Jita is pretty much full boys and girls.
1850 in local, tidi at 90%, 3505 ships killed since midnight, 285 in the last hour.
Bonanza time for anyone trading in regional hubs 
Epic stuff goonies and tomorrow will be insanity on wheels.
A definite +1 from me, well funny. |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:07:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:
2) You don't seem to understand that what CCP is proud of is their servers staying up and kicking during this AND that players are having a good time. NOWHERE was it stated that they ENDORSE the actions taken by Goonswarm which is what you seem to be seeing, apparently. They want people to be able to do whatever they want in the game, they never put out details of any actions by anyone.
Jon Lander told Eurogamer today that CCP approved.
Jita will still be there next week.....
Edit - "I tell you what, it's going to be f***ing brilliant," Jon Lander, senior producer of Eve Online, told Eurogamer this morning. "Absolutely brilliant.
"There was one bug [the 'bookmark escaping agro bug'] in the game that meant that if they do the things they're going to do, they could have escaped the in-game consequences. So we fixed that bug about three weeks ago. And they went, okay.
"They're going to do exactly what you're able to do in the game, and people will have to roll with it. It'll be great.
"Last night I got an email - Jita was at 2100. Time dilation kicked in at 15 per cent. And there were people just watching the sh*t that was going down. It was brilliant. It was absolutely great." |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries
Push Interstellar Network
178
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:08:00 -
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Othran wrote:
John Landis told Eurogamer today that CCP approved.
Jita will still be there next week.....
Lol, what is CCP going to do, tell them no?
Oh for ****'s sake you guys are dense.
Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it.
Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else.
Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:09:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Othran wrote:
John Landis told Eurogamer today that CCP approved.
Jita will still be there next week.....
Lol, what is CCP going to do, tell them no? Oh for ****'s sake you guys are dense.
And you're a source of amusement to most people who read these forums. Things just go "whoosh" over your head so much  |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
414
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:09:00 -
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Kalpel wrote:Xython wrote:Siigari Kitawa wrote:Xython wrote:If we get 2600 in Jita, the gates to Jita close. IF we get 2000 in the systems next door to Jita, gates to THOSE systems close. In other words, if we do this right, Nothing gets in NOR out of Jita. Dude the gates are locked right now and the player count in Jita is fluctuating +/- quite a bit. It just dropped 100 and the gates are still locked. Also since I think we both know that CCP reads the forums and cares about their community, they will respond with answers that are both forward-facing and as fair as possible to all parties. They did respond, actually: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-04-27-ccp-players-attempt-to-destroy-eve-online-economy-is-f-ing-brilliantIf it's too long to read, let me sum it up for you: CCP approves of the Jita burning and thinks you should all harden the **** up. We'll see how " Absolutely brilliant " Jon Lander thinks it is when people look to another MMO for fun, Muhahahaha
It will be "Absolutely Briliant" when subscriptions go up and you're "Incredibly Disappointed", which I can guarantee that you will be. Here are some more straws for you to grasp at, carry on Doris.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
736
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:10:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Othran wrote:
John Landis told Eurogamer today that CCP approved.
Jita will still be there next week.....
Lol, what is CCP going to do, tell them no? Oh for ****'s sake you guys are dense.
Oh, I just noticed your a freighter pilot. Now it makes sense. |
Siigari Kitawa
Push Industries
Push Interstellar Network
178
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:10:00 -
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Othran wrote:And you're a source of amusement to most people who read these forums. Things just go "whoosh" over your head so much
I aim to please. Honestly I ignore a lot of the crap that goes on in the forums. ;P
Need stuff moved? Push Industries will handle it.
Serving highsec, lowsec and nullsec - and we do it faster and more reliably than anyone else.
Ingame channel: PUSHX |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
414
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:11:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Othran wrote:
John Landis told Eurogamer today that CCP approved.
Jita will still be there next week.....
Lol, what is CCP going to do, tell them no? Oh for ****'s sake you guys are dense.
What's up? Is it disrupting your game play? I think that's the general idea behind this, as you were Mabel.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
Francisco Bizzaro
65
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Posted - 2012.04.27 16:12:00 -
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Siigari Kitawa wrote:Othran wrote:
John Landis told Eurogamer today that CCP approved.
Jita will still be there next week.....
Lol, what is CCP going to do, tell them no?
No, but I predict that they will tell you "no", at least to the request in the OP. Actually, they probably won't tell you anything, so you will just have to infer it. |
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