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Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Jack Dant Good thing you can use the scanning filters to remove shuttles (and any ship class) even if your signal strength is not high enough Way to ruin someone's day. (but not mine ) - Infectious -
Eschiava Q Minmatar Blood Money Bootcamp Blood Money Cartel	Posted - 2009.03.11 15:04:00 - [32] Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list So, yeah, you go right ahead and waste your time dropping shuttles, looters won't mind, it only takes 10 seconds to update a filter. LOL!
Marlenus Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 15:39:00 - [33] Darn, the fun was over before I found this thread. By the way, I fully endorse the idea of scattering unpiloted Navy Ravens throughout mission running hubs to confuse my scanning returns. It's brilliant! ------------------ Ironfleet.com
Kavu Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.03.11 15:41:00 - [34] Originally by: Marlenus Darn, the fun was over before I found this thread. By the way, I fully endorse the idea of scattering unpiloted Navy Ravens throughout mission running hubs to confuse my scanning returns. It's brilliant! much better idea, ninja's arent dumb enough to think you run missions in a shuttle sillies
Jack Coutu	Posted - 2009.03.11 16:20:00 - [35] Keep trying, the make your own solution is a lot better than the whining. I for one like the blow them up so they don't get them. They can say it's fun to watch, but it kills the profession as a whole. The "pros" will laugh, but new comers and half hearted ninjas will give up. I would like to see the ninjas man up and head into WH's to ninja salvage wrecks in there. However most of them are pretty cowardly so, I think that's not going to happen. The best will try I hope. I'd just like to point out that someone doing this with too many shuttles is not a good idea. While creative, and awesome in theory, the scanning filter means it's useless and the spamming is excessive. Ninja's play by the rules of the game. If you are going to beat them, you should try stuff out that isn't overkill. If you win by means of breaking game mechanics they will have their way and you will get GM'Ganked. If you take a subtle and smart approach we will have them spending a little longer than 47 minutes trying to figure out what to do.
Lady Spank Amarr Suddenly Whingers	Posted - 2009.03.11 16:26:00 - [36] sets up alt with sensor boosted frig at docking area to pop carebears who dump shuttles everywhere.
CanIHave YourStuff	Posted - 2009.03.11 16:27:00 - [37] Wondering is the OP will ever reply to this thread.
Rheed Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 16:32:00 - [38] First thing I thought when I read the OP was "Oh man, did they decide to take out ship filtering?" Second thought was "Why didn't they just use noob ships?" ----------------------------------- Look at me! I'm on the INTERNET!!!
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Master Matari Me and everyone in my corp totalling 54 people each dropped 10 shuttles based in intelligently chosen places (where we had a mission before) in our major mission hub. We have gotten friendly corps to do the same in our and their mission hubs totalling another 120 players meanning 1,740 shuttles beteen 4 systems. The idea is spreading fast. This is because with the new probing system, you cant tell what you are scanning untill you scan in close. With all of these extra ships on scan, it will throw off, confuse and outright demoralise a vast number of salvage ninjas. We usually get at least 1-2 mission ninjas a day strike out corp. Last night we had none, and neither did any of our friends, so early signs that it is working, this could be down to the pirates getting used to their new scanners however, time will tell. All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Do the same, get the mission ninjas to earn their own isk instead of stealing yours. Not to take a giant dump on your plan here...but I can set a scan filter to exclude anything but missionships. Unless of course you want to start dumping battleships all around the system
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:27:00 - [40] In after Tchell. Oh, wait. We're Recruiting!

Ibram Ancille Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:32:00 - [41] Edited by: Ibram Ancille on 11/03/2009 17:32:16 HA HA HA Edit - oh yeah, and in after Tchell
Gregor Vernof Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:59:00 - [42] Originally by: Jack Coutu I would like to see the ninjas man up and head into WH's to ninja salvage wrecks in there. However most of them are pretty cowardly so, I think that's not going to happen. The best will try I hope. Hmmmm... and running Level 4 mish in High Sec, blasting dumb NPC's with little to no risk of them ever even getting through the MR's shields is soooo very much more courageous....
Alowishus the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:14:00 - [43] Originally by: Gregor Vernof Originally by: Jack Coutu I would like to see the ninjas man up and head into WH's to ninja salvage wrecks in there. However most of them are pretty cowardly so, I think that's not going to happen. The best will try I hope. Hmmmm... and running Level 4 mish in High Sec, blasting dumb NPC's with little to no risk of them ever even getting through the MR's shields is soooo very much more courageous.... They have honor though. See, if you don't have e-honor then you must have e-courage. If you don't have either one then you're a 13-year-old basement dwelling sociopath. Or did you forget? /makes fart noise
Gregor Vernof Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:18:00 - [44] Originally by: Alowishus If you don't have either one then you're a 13-year-old basement dwelling sociopath. Or did you forget? Darn it, I did forget.... But I haven't been 13 for far too long a time... I do still feel most comfortable and safe in my Mum's basement though....
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:56:00 - [45] Originally by: Jack Coutu Keep trying, the make your own solution is a lot better than the whining. I for one like the blow them up so they don't get them. They can say it's fun to watch, but it kills the profession as a whole. The "pros" will laugh, but new comers and half hearted ninjas will give up. I would like to see the ninjas man up and head into WH's to ninja salvage wrecks in there. However most of them are pretty cowardly so, I think that's not going to happen. The best will try I hope. I'd just like to point out that someone doing this with too many shuttles is not a good idea. While creative, and awesome in theory, the scanning filter means it's useless and the spamming is excessive. Ninja's play by the rules of the game. If you are going to beat them, you should try stuff out that isn't overkill. If you win by means of breaking game mechanics they will have their way and you will get GM'Ganked. If you take a subtle and smart approach we will have them spending a little longer than 47 minutes trying to figure out what to do. Nice post. Thought a couple of things needed looking into. You're looking for solutions to stop people busting your high sec mission running right? Just checking. What else is on... -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting
Pax Scindus Gallente Mortal Squad	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:01:00 - [46] Edited by: Pax Scindus on 11/03/2009 20:01:18 Originally by: Dedalus77 Don't want me in your mission? Then 1) mission outside a major mission hub, 2) bring someone along to salvage as you go (you can even hire me for this very purpose for a small fee), 3) the old tried and true blowing up of your own wrecks (just be careful, I will stick around until you blow every single one). This made me giggle- I imagined an adult film director saying the same thing. ----------------------------------------- Vis Pacem Para Bellum If you want peace, prepare for war. www.romulusfor
Dartago Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:45:00 - [47] Originally by: Master Matari Me and everyone in my corp totalling 54 people each dropped 10 shuttles based in intelligently chosen places (where we had a mission before) in our major mission hub. We have gotten friendly corps to do the same in our and their mission hubs totalling another 120 players meanning 1,740 shuttles beteen 4 systems. The idea is spreading fast. This is because with the new probing system, you cant tell what you are scanning untill you scan in close. With all of these extra ships on scan, it will throw off, confuse and outright demoralise a vast number of salvage ninjas. We usually get at least 1-2 mission ninjas a day strike out corp. Last night we had none, and neither did any of our friends, so early signs that it is working, this could be down to the pirates getting used to their new scanners however, time will tell. All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Do the same, get the mission ninjas to earn their own isk instead of stealing yours. the idea is good however you can set the probe filter to only show ships of the type your interested in say "battleships" this way your shuttle idea becomes completly useless sadly
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:46:00 - [48] Originally by: Dartago Originally by: Master Matari Me and everyone in my corp totalling 54 people each dropped 10 shuttles based in intelligently chosen places (where we had a mission before) in our major mission hub. We have gotten friendly corps to do the same in our and their mission hubs totalling another 120 players meanning 1,740 shuttles beteen 4 systems. The idea is spreading fast. This is because with the new probing system, you cant tell what you are scanning untill you scan in close. With all of these extra ships on scan, it will throw off, confuse and outright demoralise a vast number of salvage ninjas. We usually get at least 1-2 mission ninjas a day strike out corp. Last night we had none, and neither did any of our friends, so early signs that it is working, this could be down to the pirates getting used to their new scanners however, time will tell. All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Do the same, get the mission ninjas to earn their own isk instead of stealing yours. the idea is good however you can set the probe filter to only show ships of the type your interested in say "battleships" this way your shuttle idea becomes completly useless sadly Oh yeah **. You're a smart guy....you should tell everyone else. Originally by:** CCP Mitnal Beware of the revenge of elves for the non-believers.
Gregor Vernof Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:50:00 - [49] Originally by: Le Poupon Originally by: Dartago ... your... idea becomes completly useless sadly Oh yeah ****. You're a smart guy....you should tell everyone else. What, and actually read the entire thread instead of just glancing at the OP?
KingCappo Seigers of Doom	Posted - 2009.03.11 21:32:00 - [50] Originally by: Rheed First thing I thought when I read the OP was "Oh man, did they decide to take out ship filtering?" Second thought was "Why didn't they just use noob ships?" I think noob ships get handled by the junk-mechanism, like secure cans.

Willy Pete Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 21:39:00 - [51] Edited by: Willy Pete on 11/03/2009 21:39:38 prepares to start rescuing shuttles for resale wonders how much isk/hour he can make, since we all know that isk/hour is the definition of joy in this game reads replies by those with a clue Oh, snap!
Cyprus Black Caldari Elitist Jerks Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.11 22:59:00 - [52] Ah ha ha ha. Your feeble attempt to thwart ninja salvagers has failed. Mua ha ha ha ha! ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
IHaveTenFingers Caldari ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.03.11 23:04:00 - [53] Edited by: IHaveTenFingers on 11/03/2009 23:04:04 How long until the "OMG MY SYSTEM IS LAGGING FIX IT NOW OR I 'QUIT' CCP!" thread starts? I have a feeling the same people dropping shuttles are going to be the OPs
Panzram GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:04:00 - [54] is there really any money in ninja salvaging? sounds like a lot of work for someone else scraps. i'm familiar with the loot and salvage from lvl 4 missions, and if you only get some of that after scanning someone down it all sounds pretty lose/lose. i saw the word 'honor' in this thread which i know is code for "no isk".
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Dartago the idea is good however you can set the probe filter to only show ships of the type your interested in say "battleships" this way your shuttle idea becomes completly useless sadly I think this can be easily countered by all the mission runners dropping 10-20 Battleships/Battlecruisers at strategic locations throughout the system. That'll show those pesky ninja salvagers! NOT a kublai alt. Honest! Vote Pompous for CSM, or Lana's babies will starve!
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:22:00 - [56] Originally by: Panzram is there really any money in ninja salvaging? sounds like a lot of work for someone else scraps. i'm familiar with the loot and salvage from lvl 4 missions, and if you only get some of that after scanning someone down it all sounds pretty lose/lose. i saw the word 'honor' in this thread which i know is code for "no isk". There is. You can scan people down much much faster than they can run lvl4's. Sure you 'only' get the salvage, but in some types of mission that's where all the isk is. You run your lvl4's and do what? 1 an hour, one every 2 hours? I salvage and get 30-50 hits in the same time. I only make 50% of what you do per mission, but I get them done in 10 mins. With the old scanning system I used to get so many hits I was giving them out to other salvagers because I couldn't do them all before the runners handed them in/salvaged themselves. (im going to assume the new one will happily cut that back as its taking be a lot longer to probe people out these days) NOT a kublai alt. Honest! Vote Pompous for CSM, or Lana's babies will starve!
Amy Mouse	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:31:00 - [57] Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list Drop ravens. That will teach those ninja salvagers!!!
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Amy Mouse Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list Drop ravens. That will teach those ninja salvagers!!! Ravens are still 90mill at most, yes? ..."And for only three million ISK per day, you too can help fight famine and starvation for Ninjas. All you have to do is call." and "When you sponsor a ninja, you are paying for their school, clean water, and shoes for their feet. Did you know that a $1 pair of sandals is enough to keep a Ninja child from walking in raw sewage?" and "All it takes is three million a day. Sponsor a Ninja now, and you will receive a photo, a letter from the Ninja, and monthly updates on their well-being."
Alia Xi Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:06:00 - [59] Edited by: Alia Xi on 12/03/2009 01:08:50 Originally by: JordanParey ..."And for only three million ISK per day, you too can help fight famine and starvation for Ninjas. All you have to do is call." and "When you sponsor a ninja, you are paying for their school, clean water, and shoes for their feet. Did you know that a $1 pair of sandals is enough to keep a Ninja child from walking in raw sewage?" and "All it takes is three million a day. Sponsor a Ninja now, and you will receive a photo, a letter from the Ninja, and monthly updates on their well-being." Military experts are wondering if this will be Tchells next business idea.. "Sponsor a Ninja?" Edit: My ninja is doing well, I recently received a letter in my monthly update-pack which probably cost more than 3mil. Still, it's the thought that counts, right? (Picture now with 100% more shameless blog plugging)
Harrigan VonStudly Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.12 03:29:00 - [60] Originally by: JordanParey Originally by: Amy Mouse Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list Drop ravens. That will teach those ninja salvagers!!! Ravens are still 90mill at most, yes? ..."And for only three million ISK per day, you too can help fight famine and starvation for Ninjas. All you have to do is call." and "When you sponsor a ninja, you are paying for their school, clean water, and shoes for their feet. Did you know that a $1 pair of sandals is enough to keep a Ninja child from walking in raw sewage?" and "All it takes is three million a day. Sponsor a Ninja now, and you will receive a photo, a letter from the Ninja, and monthly updates on their well-being." But wait! There's more! If you call within the next 10 minutes you will get two ninjas for the cost of one. That's right! We will double your order. But you must act now. Imagine saving two ninja children all for the low cost of only 3 million isk/day. That's two photos for your wallet to show all your friends. Be the envy at your job. Call now. 1-800-FAI-LTRY Oh, and while you're dropping your shuttles or BS, we'll be jumping in them to steal them. Free ships everyone \o/



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