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Master Matari	Posted - 2009.03.11 10:59:00 - [1] Me and everyone in my corp totalling 54 people each dropped 10 shuttles based in intelligently chosen places (where we had a mission before) in our major mission hub. We have gotten friendly corps to do the same in our and their mission hubs totalling another 120 players meanning 1,740 shuttles beteen 4 systems. The idea is spreading fast. This is because with the new probing system, you cant tell what you are scanning untill you scan in close. With all of these extra ships on scan, it will throw off, confuse and outright demoralise a vast number of salvage ninjas. We usually get at least 1-2 mission ninjas a day strike out corp. Last night we had none, and neither did any of our friends, so early signs that it is working, this could be down to the pirates getting used to their new scanners however, time will tell. All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Do the same, get the mission ninjas to earn their own isk instead of stealing yours.
Midas Hikaru	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:04:00 - [2] I have not done any probing yet so I dont know much about it, but wont this mean people (yourselves included) can't probe wormholes out? Or is that a different set of probes?
Master Matari	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:06:00 - [3] We dont care much for worm hole probing, and if we did then we wouldnt do it in a major mission hub where it will already be hard enough. As for other corps? They can do the same and shouldnt be wormhole probing in such high-traffic areas anyway.
R4d1o4ct1v3 Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:06:00 - [4] Hehe... this is a good idea. Will make things more confusing for newbie salvage-ninjas. The real "pros" will probably find a way around this though.
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:19:00 - [5] Quote: All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Suspect there could well be an issue with refreshing the deletion timer. Suggest simply placing yet another shuttle in it's place when it does expire. --- Originally by: 7shining7one7 a) there are no conspiracies whatsoever b) those who believe there are are nuts
Waiting4ambulation	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:23:00 - [6] Originally by: Midas Hikaru I have not done any probing yet so I dont know much about it, but wont this mean people (yourselves included) can't probe wormholes out? Or is that a different set of probes? Different probes, and different categories on the scanner. Simply disabling the "Ship and Probe" category in your scan would eliminate all the hits from dozens of scattered shuttles, while still allowing exploration results.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:28:00 - [7] Edited by: Misanth on 11/03/2009 11:28:22 Originally by: Waiting4ambulation Originally by: Midas Hikaru I have not done any probing yet so I dont know much about it, but wont this mean people (yourselves included) can't probe wormholes out? Or is that a different set of probes? Different probes, and different categories on the scanner. Simply disabling the "Ship and Probe" category in your scan would eliminate all the hits from dozens of scattered shuttles, while still allowing exploration results. Wrong. The rest of your post is accurate, just remove it from the scan, but you can use combat probes to find wormholes as well. This is a good read. Quoting the "probes"-section: Core Scanner Probe I û The basic scanning probe, can scan out exploration sites and wormholes. It has a volume of 0.1m3 and a maximum range of 32 AU. Combat Scanner Probe I û Advanced scanning probe which can scan out both exploration sites and wormholes, as well as ships, drones and structures. It can basically scan out anything that can be scanned (with the exception of moon surveying). It has a volume of 1.0m3 and a maximum range of 64 AU. Deep Space Scanner Probe I û Advanced scanning probe, mostly useful for finding out what is in a system, much like the old multispectral probes. It has a volume of 1.0m3 and a maximum range of 1024 AU. -
Midas Hikaru	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:28:00 - [8] Edited by: Midas Hikaru on 11/03/2009 11:30:26 Quote: Different probes, and different categories on the scanner. Simply disabling the "Ship and Probe" category in your scan would eliminate all the hits from dozens of scattered shuttles, while still allowing exploration results. Quote: Wrong. The rest of your post is accurate, just remove it from the scan, but you can use combat probes to find wormholes as well. This is a good read. Thanks for the conformation. and 'This' was a good read. printed out for further reference.
Master Matari	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:30:00 - [9] We wil see at the end of march I suppose :) we built all the shuttles over the past few months with another 8000 in stock (which we give to like-minded corps) if this is the case and boarding the ship, docking up, relaunching and going back to the HM doesnt work then we will just start swapping the shuttles around.
Midas Hikaru	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:32:00 - [10] Quote: will just start swapping the shuttles around. Fly a new shuttle to first BM, jump out and into the one there... fly to 2nd BM.. rinse and repeat. Nice!
CanIHave YourStuff	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:42:00 - [11] reporting for purposefully creating system lag. which in turn ****s up your mission running enjoy your module activation lag and dead bearships.
Jack Dant Minmatar The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:46:00 - [12] Good thing you can use the scanning filters to remove shuttles (and any ship class) even if your signal strength is not high enough
steave435 Caldari SniggWaffe	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:46:00 - [13] Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:56:00 - [14] aww, I thought it was an excellent idea right up until the last two responses. Keep trying though, this is better than whining on the forums. Originally by: Sol'Kanar I am the spermicidal cream to your semen of lies.
Traderboz	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Jack Dant Good thing you can use the scanning filters to remove shuttles (and any ship class) even if your signal strength is not high enough lawl Wonder how much time was spent flying around and dropping shuttles?
Damnskippy	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:59:00 - [16] Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 Hehe... this is a good idea. Will make things more confusing for newbie salvage-ninjas. The real "pros" will probably find a way around this though. Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list It took the pros 47 minutes.
Sol'Kanar Minmatar SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:01:00 - [17] Edited by: Sol''Kanar on 11/03/2009 12:01:39 My only regret is that I was not the one to point out this glaring oversight (lol ship type filter). Oh, and put the fecking wrecks & cans back on the directional scanner, FFS!
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:07:00 - [18] If only you had put more time into actually playing the game than putting in the effort to play the game passively. Self-proclaimed idiot
Traderboz	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:08:00 - [19] The plan can still work! They just have to manufacture 8000 ravens and nighthawks and scatter them throughout the systems. What could go wrong?
Molten Steel Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:11:00 - [20] Originally by: Master Matari 54 people, another 120 players Originally by: Master Matari we built all the shuttles over the past few months with another 8000 in stock A valiant attempt but in between 174 people, several months of time and 8000+ shuttles built how did not a single person consider the fact that Originally by: Jack Dant you can use the scanning filters to remove shuttles
Lady Spank Amarr Suddenly Whingers	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:15:00 - [21] Originally by: Damnskippy Originally by: R4d1o4ct1v3 Hehe... this is a good idea. Will make things more confusing for newbie salvage-ninjas. The real "pros" will probably find a way around this though. Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list It took the pros 47 minutes. 45 minutes prior to this thread... NOES! but thank you so much for wasting your time and money and being complete and utter failures.
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:20:00 - [22] Originally by: Traderboz The plan can still work! They just have to manufacture 8000 ravens and nighthawks and scatter them throughout the systems. What could go wrong? This is the way to do it, to make it really confusing put a few Kronos's or Golems in the mix! This will teach those pesky ninjas! Originally by: Rells First of all, I wouldn't give you the sweat off my balls.
Kage Toshimado Gallente The Logistical Nightmare	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:29:00 - [23] ibTchell Even though I haven't salvaged anything in over half a year, it was pretty easy to realize right away that the shuttles could be filtered. I've heard the idea of filtering out shuttles is spreading fast.
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:40:00 - [24] Originally by: Tzar'rim If only you had put more time into actually playing the game than putting in the effort to play the game passively. QFT Ninjas 1 : Bears Nil Also in b4 Tchell [i] Ransom List Project: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=999677&page=1
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:46:00 - [25] All that needs to be done is a petition for shuttle spam and they'll be removed. You're just wasting isk, nice try though A Pirates Perspective
Ninjitsuki Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:48:00 - [26] Free shuttles \o/
Alowishus the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.03.11 13:21:00 - [27] I have to applaud the "trying instead of whining" that was employed here. /makes fart noise
Cedric Diggory Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:08:00 - [28] Quote: I have to applaud the "trying instead of whining" that was employed here. This. Keep trying, there will be something to allow you to beat back the scumÖ --- Originally by: 7shining7one7 a) there are no conspiracies whatsoever b) those who believe there are are nuts
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:17:00 - [29] come over to me and salavage my loot if you want, I'll just own your ass while your doing so
Dedalus77 Junkyard Dogs	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:25:00 - [30] This thread is awesome and shows just why, as a ninja, I so love the mission bears. You try so very hard to get CCP, through the game mechanics, to take care of your problems for you instead of manning up and doing something about it yourself. Don't want me in your mission? Then 1) mission outside a major mission hub, 2) bring someone along to salvage as you go (you can even hire me for this very purpose for a small fee), 3) the old tried and true blowing up of your own wrecks (just be careful, I will stick around until you blow every single one). As for the idea given in this thread, I just love how much effort you wasted BEFORE knowing how the new mechanic was going to work in its entirety, you win the internet.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.03.11 14:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Jack Dant Good thing you can use the scanning filters to remove shuttles (and any ship class) even if your signal strength is not high enough Way to ruin someone's day. (but not mine ) - Infectious -
Eschiava Q Minmatar Blood Money Bootcamp Blood Money Cartel	Posted - 2009.03.11 15:04:00 - [32] Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list So, yeah, you go right ahead and waste your time dropping shuttles, looters won't mind, it only takes 10 seconds to update a filter. LOL!
Marlenus Caldari Ironfleet Towing And Salvage Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 15:39:00 - [33] Darn, the fun was over before I found this thread. By the way, I fully endorse the idea of scattering unpiloted Navy Ravens throughout mission running hubs to confuse my scanning returns. It's brilliant! ------------------ Ironfleet.com
Kavu Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.03.11 15:41:00 - [34] Originally by: Marlenus Darn, the fun was over before I found this thread. By the way, I fully endorse the idea of scattering unpiloted Navy Ravens throughout mission running hubs to confuse my scanning returns. It's brilliant! much better idea, ninja's arent dumb enough to think you run missions in a shuttle sillies
Jack Coutu	Posted - 2009.03.11 16:20:00 - [35] Keep trying, the make your own solution is a lot better than the whining. I for one like the blow them up so they don't get them. They can say it's fun to watch, but it kills the profession as a whole. The "pros" will laugh, but new comers and half hearted ninjas will give up. I would like to see the ninjas man up and head into WH's to ninja salvage wrecks in there. However most of them are pretty cowardly so, I think that's not going to happen. The best will try I hope. I'd just like to point out that someone doing this with too many shuttles is not a good idea. While creative, and awesome in theory, the scanning filter means it's useless and the spamming is excessive. Ninja's play by the rules of the game. If you are going to beat them, you should try stuff out that isn't overkill. If you win by means of breaking game mechanics they will have their way and you will get GM'Ganked. If you take a subtle and smart approach we will have them spending a little longer than 47 minutes trying to figure out what to do.
Lady Spank Amarr Suddenly Whingers	Posted - 2009.03.11 16:26:00 - [36] sets up alt with sensor boosted frig at docking area to pop carebears who dump shuttles everywhere.
CanIHave YourStuff	Posted - 2009.03.11 16:27:00 - [37] Wondering is the OP will ever reply to this thread.
Rheed Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 16:32:00 - [38] First thing I thought when I read the OP was "Oh man, did they decide to take out ship filtering?" Second thought was "Why didn't they just use noob ships?" ----------------------------------- Look at me! I'm on the INTERNET!!!
Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:14:00 - [39] Originally by: Master Matari Me and everyone in my corp totalling 54 people each dropped 10 shuttles based in intelligently chosen places (where we had a mission before) in our major mission hub. We have gotten friendly corps to do the same in our and their mission hubs totalling another 120 players meanning 1,740 shuttles beteen 4 systems. The idea is spreading fast. This is because with the new probing system, you cant tell what you are scanning untill you scan in close. With all of these extra ships on scan, it will throw off, confuse and outright demoralise a vast number of salvage ninjas. We usually get at least 1-2 mission ninjas a day strike out corp. Last night we had none, and neither did any of our friends, so early signs that it is working, this could be down to the pirates getting used to their new scanners however, time will tell. All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Do the same, get the mission ninjas to earn their own isk instead of stealing yours. Not to take a giant dump on your plan here...but I can set a scan filter to exclude anything but missionships. Unless of course you want to start dumping battleships all around the system
Tchell Dahhn Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:27:00 - [40] In after Tchell. Oh, wait. We're Recruiting!
Ibram Ancille Private Nuisance	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:32:00 - [41] Edited by: Ibram Ancille on 11/03/2009 17:32:16 HA HA HA Edit - oh yeah, and in after Tchell
Gregor Vernof Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 17:59:00 - [42] Originally by: Jack Coutu I would like to see the ninjas man up and head into WH's to ninja salvage wrecks in there. However most of them are pretty cowardly so, I think that's not going to happen. The best will try I hope. Hmmmm... and running Level 4 mish in High Sec, blasting dumb NPC's with little to no risk of them ever even getting through the MR's shields is soooo very much more courageous....
Alowishus the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:14:00 - [43] Originally by: Gregor Vernof Originally by: Jack Coutu I would like to see the ninjas man up and head into WH's to ninja salvage wrecks in there. However most of them are pretty cowardly so, I think that's not going to happen. The best will try I hope. Hmmmm... and running Level 4 mish in High Sec, blasting dumb NPC's with little to no risk of them ever even getting through the MR's shields is soooo very much more courageous.... They have honor though. See, if you don't have e-honor then you must have e-courage. If you don't have either one then you're a 13-year-old basement dwelling sociopath. Or did you forget? /makes fart noise
Gregor Vernof Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:18:00 - [44] Originally by: Alowishus If you don't have either one then you're a 13-year-old basement dwelling sociopath. Or did you forget? Darn it, I did forget.... But I haven't been 13 for far too long a time... I do still feel most comfortable and safe in my Mum's basement though....
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:56:00 - [45] Originally by: Jack Coutu Keep trying, the make your own solution is a lot better than the whining. I for one like the blow them up so they don't get them. They can say it's fun to watch, but it kills the profession as a whole. The "pros" will laugh, but new comers and half hearted ninjas will give up. I would like to see the ninjas man up and head into WH's to ninja salvage wrecks in there. However most of them are pretty cowardly so, I think that's not going to happen. The best will try I hope. I'd just like to point out that someone doing this with too many shuttles is not a good idea. While creative, and awesome in theory, the scanning filter means it's useless and the spamming is excessive. Ninja's play by the rules of the game. If you are going to beat them, you should try stuff out that isn't overkill. If you win by means of breaking game mechanics they will have their way and you will get GM'Ganked. If you take a subtle and smart approach we will have them spending a little longer than 47 minutes trying to figure out what to do. Nice post. Thought a couple of things needed looking into. You're looking for solutions to stop people busting your high sec mission running right? Just checking. What else is on... -------sig------------------------------------ A higher grade of posting
Pax Scindus Gallente Mortal Squad	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:01:00 - [46] Edited by: Pax Scindus on 11/03/2009 20:01:18 Originally by: Dedalus77 Don't want me in your mission? Then 1) mission outside a major mission hub, 2) bring someone along to salvage as you go (you can even hire me for this very purpose for a small fee), 3) the old tried and true blowing up of your own wrecks (just be careful, I will stick around until you blow every single one). This made me giggle- I imagined an adult film director saying the same thing. ----------------------------------------- Vis Pacem Para Bellum If you want peace, prepare for war. www.romulusfor
Dartago Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:45:00 - [47] Originally by: Master Matari Me and everyone in my corp totalling 54 people each dropped 10 shuttles based in intelligently chosen places (where we had a mission before) in our major mission hub. We have gotten friendly corps to do the same in our and their mission hubs totalling another 120 players meanning 1,740 shuttles beteen 4 systems. The idea is spreading fast. This is because with the new probing system, you cant tell what you are scanning untill you scan in close. With all of these extra ships on scan, it will throw off, confuse and outright demoralise a vast number of salvage ninjas. We usually get at least 1-2 mission ninjas a day strike out corp. Last night we had none, and neither did any of our friends, so early signs that it is working, this could be down to the pirates getting used to their new scanners however, time will tell. All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Do the same, get the mission ninjas to earn their own isk instead of stealing yours. the idea is good however you can set the probe filter to only show ships of the type your interested in say "battleships" this way your shuttle idea becomes completly useless sadly
Le Poupon Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:46:00 - [48] Originally by: Dartago Originally by: Master Matari Me and everyone in my corp totalling 54 people each dropped 10 shuttles based in intelligently chosen places (where we had a mission before) in our major mission hub. We have gotten friendly corps to do the same in our and their mission hubs totalling another 120 players meanning 1,740 shuttles beteen 4 systems. The idea is spreading fast. This is because with the new probing system, you cant tell what you are scanning untill you scan in close. With all of these extra ships on scan, it will throw off, confuse and outright demoralise a vast number of salvage ninjas. We usually get at least 1-2 mission ninjas a day strike out corp. Last night we had none, and neither did any of our friends, so early signs that it is working, this could be down to the pirates getting used to their new scanners however, time will tell. All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Do the same, get the mission ninjas to earn their own isk instead of stealing yours. the idea is good however you can set the probe filter to only show ships of the type your interested in say "battleships" this way your shuttle idea becomes completly useless sadly Oh yeah **. You're a smart guy....you should tell everyone else. Originally by:** CCP Mitnal Beware of the revenge of elves for the non-believers.
Gregor Vernof Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:50:00 - [49] Originally by: Le Poupon Originally by: Dartago ... your... idea becomes completly useless sadly Oh yeah ****. You're a smart guy....you should tell everyone else. What, and actually read the entire thread instead of just glancing at the OP?
KingCappo Seigers of Doom	Posted - 2009.03.11 21:32:00 - [50] Originally by: Rheed First thing I thought when I read the OP was "Oh man, did they decide to take out ship filtering?" Second thought was "Why didn't they just use noob ships?" I think noob ships get handled by the junk-mechanism, like secure cans.
Willy Pete Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.11 21:39:00 - [51] Edited by: Willy Pete on 11/03/2009 21:39:38 prepares to start rescuing shuttles for resale wonders how much isk/hour he can make, since we all know that isk/hour is the definition of joy in this game reads replies by those with a clue Oh, snap!
Cyprus Black Caldari Elitist Jerks Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.11 22:59:00 - [52] Ah ha ha ha. Your feeble attempt to thwart ninja salvagers has failed. Mua ha ha ha ha! ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
IHaveTenFingers Caldari ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.03.11 23:04:00 - [53] Edited by: IHaveTenFingers on 11/03/2009 23:04:04 How long until the "OMG MY SYSTEM IS LAGGING FIX IT NOW OR I 'QUIT' CCP!" thread starts? I have a feeling the same people dropping shuttles are going to be the OPs
Panzram GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:04:00 - [54] is there really any money in ninja salvaging? sounds like a lot of work for someone else scraps. i'm familiar with the loot and salvage from lvl 4 missions, and if you only get some of that after scanning someone down it all sounds pretty lose/lose. i saw the word 'honor' in this thread which i know is code for "no isk".
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:17:00 - [55] Originally by: Dartago the idea is good however you can set the probe filter to only show ships of the type your interested in say "battleships" this way your shuttle idea becomes completly useless sadly I think this can be easily countered by all the mission runners dropping 10-20 Battleships/Battlecruisers at strategic locations throughout the system. That'll show those pesky ninja salvagers! NOT a kublai alt. Honest! Vote Pompous for CSM, or Lana's babies will starve!
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:22:00 - [56] Originally by: Panzram is there really any money in ninja salvaging? sounds like a lot of work for someone else scraps. i'm familiar with the loot and salvage from lvl 4 missions, and if you only get some of that after scanning someone down it all sounds pretty lose/lose. i saw the word 'honor' in this thread which i know is code for "no isk". There is. You can scan people down much much faster than they can run lvl4's. Sure you 'only' get the salvage, but in some types of mission that's where all the isk is. You run your lvl4's and do what? 1 an hour, one every 2 hours? I salvage and get 30-50 hits in the same time. I only make 50% of what you do per mission, but I get them done in 10 mins. With the old scanning system I used to get so many hits I was giving them out to other salvagers because I couldn't do them all before the runners handed them in/salvaged themselves. (im going to assume the new one will happily cut that back as its taking be a lot longer to probe people out these days) NOT a kublai alt. Honest! Vote Pompous for CSM, or Lana's babies will starve!
Amy Mouse	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:31:00 - [57] Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list Drop ravens. That will teach those ninja salvagers!!!
JordanParey Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Amy Mouse Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list Drop ravens. That will teach those ninja salvagers!!! Ravens are still 90mill at most, yes? ..."And for only three million ISK per day, you too can help fight famine and starvation for Ninjas. All you have to do is call." and "When you sponsor a ninja, you are paying for their school, clean water, and shoes for their feet. Did you know that a $1 pair of sandals is enough to keep a Ninja child from walking in raw sewage?" and "All it takes is three million a day. Sponsor a Ninja now, and you will receive a photo, a letter from the Ninja, and monthly updates on their well-being."
Alia Xi Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:06:00 - [59] Edited by: Alia Xi on 12/03/2009 01:08:50 Originally by: JordanParey ..."And for only three million ISK per day, you too can help fight famine and starvation for Ninjas. All you have to do is call." and "When you sponsor a ninja, you are paying for their school, clean water, and shoes for their feet. Did you know that a $1 pair of sandals is enough to keep a Ninja child from walking in raw sewage?" and "All it takes is three million a day. Sponsor a Ninja now, and you will receive a photo, a letter from the Ninja, and monthly updates on their well-being." Military experts are wondering if this will be Tchells next business idea.. "Sponsor a Ninja?" Edit: My ninja is doing well, I recently received a letter in my monthly update-pack which probably cost more than 3mil. Still, it's the thought that counts, right? (Picture now with 100% more shameless blog plugging)
Harrigan VonStudly Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.12 03:29:00 - [60] Originally by: JordanParey Originally by: Amy Mouse Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list Drop ravens. That will teach those ninja salvagers!!! Ravens are still 90mill at most, yes? ..."And for only three million ISK per day, you too can help fight famine and starvation for Ninjas. All you have to do is call." and "When you sponsor a ninja, you are paying for their school, clean water, and shoes for their feet. Did you know that a $1 pair of sandals is enough to keep a Ninja child from walking in raw sewage?" and "All it takes is three million a day. Sponsor a Ninja now, and you will receive a photo, a letter from the Ninja, and monthly updates on their well-being." But wait! There's more! If you call within the next 10 minutes you will get two ninjas for the cost of one. That's right! We will double your order. But you must act now. Imagine saving two ninja children all for the low cost of only 3 million isk/day. That's two photos for your wallet to show all your friends. Be the envy at your job. Call now. 1-800-FAI-LTRY Oh, and while you're dropping your shuttles or BS, we'll be jumping in them to steal them. Free ships everyone \o/
Terra Mikael SRIUS BISNIS	Posted - 2009.03.12 05:53:00 - [61] Edited by: Terra Mikael on 12/03/2009 05:57:50 Edit: lol! ________________________________ Originally by: Korovyov You WIN! And by win, I mean suck horse manure.
Master Matari	Posted - 2009.03.12 07:50:00 - [62] You know how long it took us? As long as it takes to mine 20k veldspar and manufacture 10 shuttles, and dot them around system from an Orca, in total including the mining and placing time, about and hour each. And trust me that isnt really much at all. Okay it was a small oversight, we dont forum **** and whine about our mission ninjas, we know its a game mechanic and honestly wouldnt want the mechanics to change to stop or limit tuem. The ones that steal our loot we gang up on and kill. The ones that steal our salvage, we simply stop the mission and do a different one. We misunderstood a mechanic, but still tried to do something productive about our problem. So why are people bothering to flame me when I am attempting to combat them on equal footing?
Xiozor	Posted - 2009.03.12 07:58:00 - [63] We were mislead by someone on SiSi in our corp who told us they changed the scan so you dont know what your scanning for untill you get in real close. And the filters were basically just "ships". ----------------------------------------------- Mr.Kippling just launched a nuclear holocaust at third world countries! ... But he does make exceedingly good cakes.
Lady Spank Amarr Suddenly Whingers	Posted - 2009.03.12 10:29:00 - [64] I'm going to start looting in shuttles I have found that mission beartards have dropped in system. OHYEAH! My 10m3 cargohold will be loaded with honour.
Vampasha Space Piwates	Posted - 2009.03.12 12:51:00 - [65] Originally by: Master Matari Me and everyone in my corp totalling 54 people each dropped 10 shuttles based in intelligently chosen places (where we had a mission before) in our major mission hub. We have gotten friendly corps to do the same in our and their mission hubs totalling another 120 players meanning 1,740 shuttles beteen 4 systems. The idea is spreading fast. This is because with the new probing system, you cant tell what you are scanning untill you scan in close. With all of these extra ships on scan, it will throw off, confuse and outright demoralise a vast number of salvage ninjas. We usually get at least 1-2 mission ninjas a day strike out corp. Last night we had none, and neither did any of our friends, so early signs that it is working, this could be down to the pirates getting used to their new scanners however, time will tell. All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Do the same, get the mission ninjas to earn their own isk instead of stealing yours. secure cans are more permanent sources of lag and litter -------------- I am Zsa Zsa of Borg. Prepare to be assimilated dahling
Lady Spank Amarr Suddenly Whingers	Posted - 2009.03.12 13:11:00 - [66] Originally by: Master Matari We misunderstood a mechanic, but still tried to do something productive about our problem. So why are people bothering to flame me when I am attempting to combat them on equal footing? It's not combat, it's greed. Your being flamed for being smug while actually being a complete failure, and for posting with your alt.
AC Resonance Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.03.12 16:25:00 - [67] Topic Says "ninja salvagers" better poast. o/\o corpies! Hi5.
Decimus Caedrius Minmatar	Posted - 2009.03.12 17:58:00 - [68] Originally by: Jack Dant Good thing you can use the scanning filters to remove shuttles (and any ship class) even if your signal strength is not high enough This. Guess you better use something a little more expensive. Like a BS or something. Quote: sLaughter is the best medicine!
Baji Core Hell's Satans	Posted - 2009.03.12 19:58:00 - [69] Originally by: Master Matari You know how long it took us? As long as it takes to mine 20k veldspar and manufacture 10 shuttles, and dot them around system from an Orca, in total including the mining and placing time, about and hour each. And trust me that isnt really much at all. Okay it was a small oversight, we dont forum **** and whine about our mission ninjas, we know its a game mechanic and honestly wouldnt want the mechanics to change to stop or limit tuem. The ones that steal our loot we gang up on and kill. The ones that steal our salvage, we simply stop the mission and do a different one. We misunderstood a mechanic, but still tried to do something productive about our problem. So why are people bothering to flame me when I am attempting to combat them on equal footing? Respect for trying! It's still hilarious though
Insa Rexion Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.03.12 20:05:00 - [70] Originally by: Master Matari Me and everyone in my corp totalling 54 people each dropped 10 shuttles based in intelligently chosen places (where we had a mission before) in our major mission hub. We have gotten friendly corps to do the same in our and their mission hubs totalling another 120 players meanning 1,740 shuttles beteen 4 systems. The idea is spreading fast. This is because with the new probing system, you cant tell what you are scanning untill you scan in close. With all of these extra ships on scan, it will throw off, confuse and outright demoralise a vast number of salvage ninjas. We usually get at least 1-2 mission ninjas a day strike out corp. Last night we had none, and neither did any of our friends, so early signs that it is working, this could be down to the pirates getting used to their new scanners however, time will tell. All you have to do is drop the shuttle, bookmark the location and every 20 days hop inside it again to refresh its deletion timer. Do the same, get the mission ninjas to earn their own isk instead of stealing yours. thankyou for adding to the already insurmountable lag ** head, I hope you get petitioned well mannered ah***
Kavu Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.03.12 20:07:00 - [71] this just in: the limit of 300 people in jita is due to high numbers of abandoned shuttles in space, also ur mother is fat(ingame)
Insa Rexion Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.03.12 20:09:00 - [72] Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list oh shi... I lol'd very much, especially when you consider they have been planning this enough to build 8000 shuttles in preparation. Way to ** on the OP's parade. well mannered ah***
Insa Rexion Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.03.12 20:16:00 - [73] Originally by: Panzram is there really any money in ninja salvaging? sounds like a lot of work for someone else scraps. i'm familiar with the loot and salvage from lvl 4 missions, and if you only get some of that after scanning someone down it all sounds pretty lose/lose. i saw the word 'honor' in this thread which i know is code for "no isk". There some, it's enuff for some of us when you factor in the tears and the hilarious failures such as this, I would think a goon would appreciate this perspective no ? well mannered ah*
Insa Rexion Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.03.12 20:19:00 - [74] Originally by: Master Matari You know how long it took us? As long as it takes to mine 20k veldspar and manufacture 10 shuttles, and dot them around system from an Orca, in total including the mining and placing time, about and hour each. And trust me that isnt really much at all. Okay it was a small oversight, we dont forum ** and whine about our mission ninjas, we know its a game mechanic and honestly wouldnt want the mechanics to change to stop or limit tuem. The ones that steal our loot we gang up on and kill. The ones that steal our salvage, we simply stop the mission and do a different one. We misunderstood a mechanic, but still tried to do something productive about our problem. So why are people bothering to flame me when I am attempting to combat them on equal footing? Perhaps one reason is that we don't like folk who deliberately create lag in a vain/selfish attempt to scupper folks who don't play like they do, besides, still seems like an awful lot of effort for someone who does not care about ninjas well mannered ah***
rubico1337	Posted - 2009.03.12 21:08:00 - [75] this wont work at all, once a sig has hit 25% you can tell what kind of ship it is(battleship, battlecrusier, etc.) so you can filter it by those. also scanning mission runners is SOOOO much easier inside deadspaces, took me a average of 1 min to find anyone mission runner.
Klex Ashald Caldari Incarnation of Evil	Posted - 2009.03.13 03:12:00 - [76] Originally by: rubico1337 this wont work at all, once a sig has hit 25% you can tell what kind of ship it is(battleship, battlecrusier, etc.) so you can filter it by those. also scanning mission runners is SOOOO much easier inside deadspaces, took me a average of 1 min to find anyone mission runner. Ah damn he sure found a good way around that one....
Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.13 04:03:00 - [77] Originally by: Insa Rexion Originally by: steave435 Lol go to scanner > edit filters > remove shuttles from result list oh shi... I lol'd very much, especially when you consider they have been planning this enough to build 8000 shuttles in preparation. Way to **** on the OP's parade. I'm still lolling about this. I just love it. You could, you know, bring your own salavger along? Assuming you are a missioning PvE corp and you run multiple missions at the same time, she could do them all at the same time. I mean you'll probably sit there for 20 mins waiting for something to salvage anyway..
Alowishus the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.03.13 04:54:00 - [78] Originally by: Lady Spank Your being flamed for being smug while actually being a complete failure, and for posting with your alt. /thread tbh

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