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Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:25:00 - [121] Originally by: Ephemeron And yes. It IS an American phenomenon. but CCP aren't Americans, why are they bending over the US influence? Umm, doesn't Europe have similar standardization boards?
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Veto.	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:30:00 - [122] Edited by: Thuul''Khalat on 13/03/2009 18:30:48 Nudity isn't even remotely as taboo here. I find the US rather comical on that one aspect tbh. OMG *******!!! COVER THE CHILDRENS EYES OR THEY WILL BE DEPRAVED!!!! WTF,,, TlTTIES is censored. Bwahahahahahaaaa --- Need a new signature?
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:33:00 - [123] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Nudity isn't even remotely as taboo here. I find the US rather comical on that one aspect tbh. OMG *******!!! COVER THE CHILDRENS EYES OR THEY WILL BE DEPRAVED!!!! Yes yes - we've heard it all before how puritanical we are in N. America (I'm Canadian, not American). But for the sake of playing devil's advocate .. are you saying - "if it's not your standard - its crap?" I think that's somewhat intolerant of you. Just because it's more strict doesn't make it wrong.
Gone'Postal Void Engineers Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:36:00 - [124] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: ThrudUK So, let me get this straight, a girl in a bikini is not suitable for teenagers? This is correct. As a T-rated site, girls are not allowed. What about a man in a bikini? Originally by: masternerdguy Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:37:00 - [125] Edited by: Ephemeron on 13/03/2009 18:38:05 Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Ephemeron And yes. It IS an American phenomenon. but CCP aren't Americans, why are they bending over the US influence? Umm, doesn't Europe have similar standardization boards? From what I seen of European TV, they are much more open about sex and less open about bloody violence
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Veto.	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:38:00 - [126] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Nudity isn't even remotely as taboo here. I find the US rather comical on that one aspect tbh. OMG *******!!! COVER THE CHILDRENS EYES OR THEY WILL BE DEPRAVED!!!! Yes yes - we've heard it all before how puritanical we are in N. America (I'm Canadian, not American). But for the sake of playing devil's advocate .. are you saying - "if it's not your standard - its crap?" I think that's somewhat intolerant of you. Just because it's more strict doesn't make it wrong. No, I mean it's a ridicoulus double standard. That graphic violence doesn't even raise an eyebrow, but a single b00b flashed at Superbowl throws the entire country into an uproar. --- Need a new signature?
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:48:00 - [127] Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: ThrudUK So, let me get this straight, a girl in a bikini is not suitable for teenagers? This is correct. As a T-rated site, girls are not allowed. What about a man in a bikini? claws eyes out I hope people realized I was being sarcastic earlier. I mean it's a girl in a bikini for crying out loud. Turn on the TV to any channel and chances are good at some point you'll see a woman shaving her naked legs on a commercial, fake-orgasming in the shower because of her shampoo, or "worse". warp drive active \| nature vraie
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:53:00 - [128] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat No, I mean it's a ridicoulus double standard. That graphic violence doesn't even raise an eyebrow, but a single b00b flashed at Superbowl throws the entire country into an uproar. As someone pointed out however, that Europe has it's standards too, just more to do with violence than sex. Thing is we have different standards. Here's an example. Wear a fur coat in Canada - not a big deal. Wear a fur coat in Europe - anti-fur **'s get after you. Yet is that a double-standard? No, its a socially defined standard - and to the fur-**'s makes as much sense, as our sexuality standards. The difference is, we don't buy into all of your standards, and don't expect you to buy into all of ours.
Gone'Postal Void Engineers Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:54:00 - [129] Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: ThrudUK So, let me get this straight, a girl in a bikini is not suitable for teenagers? This is correct. As a T-rated site, girls are not allowed. What about a man in a bikini? claws eyes out I hope people realized I was being sarcastic earlier. I mean it's a girl in a bikini for crying out loud. Turn on the TV to any channel and chances are good at some point you'll see a woman shaving her naked legs on a commercial, fake-orgasming in the shower because of her shampoo, or "worse". I know but hey, I didn't want the site to appear sexest now... :) Originally by: masternerdguy Officer mods arent spread out because the bpos are innacesible to 99% of eve.
Anslo	Posted - 2009.03.13 18:59:00 - [130] After reading this entire thread all I have to say is wow. I once was in reverance at the player base of Eve before coming to this part of the forums. I felt most players were intelligent, balanced people who could see from multiple points of view and made Eve a truly wonderful experience with their experience and knowledge of things in game and out. So far all I've seen here is ***ing and whining to the highest level about a very infinatly small part of the game, when compared to the whole. I admit, I liked that station too, but I'm not blaming far right christians or calling "sell out" on ccp. Get a hold of yourselves people, it's difficult to skin something like that station for premium, especially after all the other things they had to work with. And now with ambulation being finalized, you want to rag on CCP for this **? Get the hell over it, honestly. If you don't like it, give me your stuff and get out. They have their own reasons for doing this, for doing everything really. If it works, fine. So far, it hasn't bothered me in nul sec, low sec or high sec. Seriously, get over yourselves.

Lucas Tigh East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:04:00 - [131] Originally by: Sniper Wolf18 Originally by: FreddyMac Because I didnt keep on top of this I must ask, why are pleasure hubs now gone? They took the hubs to isengard! Epic win. ------------------------------------- CCP, make me a winner.
Unbowed Ash Gallente Ad Astra Vexillum Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:08:00 - [132] Due to great demand CCP announced new feature in ambulation. Molten Core ! Thats right - you can now raid with 40 people and get - Tech 4 BPOs! Also CCP stated that its still grizzled space where pirates kill, women get ra*ed and generaly there is low chance of anyone surviving. Also if you buy the box now you get a free epic mid slot module of choice - coming in variety of colors.
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:09:00 - [133] Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: Winterblink Originally by: ThrudUK So, let me get this straight, a girl in a bikini is not suitable for teenagers? This is correct. As a T-rated site, girls are not allowed. What about a man in a bikini? Fugly Borat anyone? Originally by: CCP Wrangler I really need to stop watching commercials... Wrangler
shi'ako Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:18:00 - [134] lol this is kinda sad actually, hopefully well get some interesting advertisements and things with walking in stations but, well I donÆt know anymore, seems were ... nvm
Bullageddon Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:23:00 - [135] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Welcome to the world of American moralism. Decapitations? No big deal.... People being shot in the dead? We see that for lunch. A guy getting his arms ripped off? Yawn.... A NAKED BUM??? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!! OUR CHILDREN WILL BE SCARRED FOR LIFE!!!!1111one And yes. It IS an American phenomenon. no.. it isn't. === This Space For Lease or Sale.
Furious Hawk Farlight Council	Posted - 2009.03.13 19:34:00 - [136] You guys need not worry. EVE will still have it's own pleasure-hubs in ambulation. Just because the site is being stripped of thing deemed inappropriate for a Teen rating, that does not mean that those things will be stripped from the game. WoW has plenty of scantily-clad devil women npcs that whip whip themselves (and sound pleasured by doing so). Some of the funny phrases you character can say contain sexual innuendos. Hell, even Little Big Planet -- an E rated game -- has a strip club in one of the official storyline levels. -------------------------------------------------- Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.03.13 20:39:00 - [137] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Ephemeron And yes. It IS an American phenomenon. but CCP aren't Americans, why are they bending over the US influence? Umm, doesn't Europe have similar standardization boards? No lol. We like a nice bit of bare arse over here.
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.03.13 20:47:00 - [138] This is really irritating. Most Eve players are 20 or older anyway. Why would Eve, a dark, gritty game, go for a "T" rating, especially considering most of its players are not teenagers? Age of Conan, while in most ways a failure, earned my respect for embracing an "M" rating and not watering down the subject matter in order to get more sales. A "T" rated game would have done a great disservice to Robert E. Howard's setting, and I think making Eve, while not using a classic pre-existing setting, would be better served by embracing an "M" rating and make the setting as dark and gritty as it should be. In short, I think that trying to shoehorn a game that really should be mature by its nature into a "T"-rated game is selling out.
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2009.03.13 20:52:00 - [139] Edited by: Dmian on 13/03/2009 20:56:16 Originally by: Eventy One Umm, doesn't Europe have similar standardization boards? You mean, like ESRB? Yes, it's called PEGI. But the ratings are a bit different from those of ESRB. And European stores (as far as I know) do not discriminate adult material as American ones. And as someone pointed out, violence is more ofensive than nudity. After all, kids can see breasts at the beach every summer. Originally by: Kyra Felann Most Eve players are 20 or older anyway. Why would Eve, a dark, gritty game, go for a "T" rating, especially considering most of its players are not teenagers? Because some stores in USA will simply not sell the game if it's rated M. If you want to reach the majority of retail you better be rated T. ---- Originally by: Anne M. Lindbergh There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.03.13 20:57:00 - [140] Originally by: MotherMoon plus I'm also a little ****ed we've never gotten an offical answer from ccp about the quafe station for the past 2 years I don't think it's been two years has it? I do agree, though. I was happy when I saw the blue bar next to this thread and then disappointed when it turned out that it was just a moderator removing a link. This does not bode well. Can CCP tell us if the pleasure hub will eventually be back, or if it's gone for good? Having only one station interior for Gallente (not sure about the others) is kind of boring. The Pleasure Hub one was my favorite. It had that unique Gallente style--holographic advertising, bustling trains, etc--whereas the current one, while pretty, is kind of bland.

Furious Hawk Farlight Council	Posted - 2009.03.13 20:58:00 - [141] Originally by: Dmian Because some stores in USA will simply not sell the game if it's rated M. If you want to reach the majority of retail you better be rated T. What? No. They sell M rated games all the time. It's AO games that retailers avoid like the plague. -------------------------------------------------- Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2009.03.13 20:59:00 - [142] Edited by: Dmian on 13/03/2009 21:00:51 Originally by: Furious Hawk What? No. They sell M rated games all the time. It's AO games that retailers avoid like the plague. Oh! That's right. Sorry, I confused M for AO. But then, T has a broader audience than M. It's what most games aim for. ---- Originally by: Anne M. Lindbergh There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change
Kyra Felann Gallente Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2009.03.13 21:06:00 - [143] Originally by: Dmian Originally by: Kyra Felann Most Eve players are 20 or older anyway. Why would Eve, a dark, gritty game, go for a "T" rating, especially considering most of its players are not teenagers? Because some stores in USA will simply not sell the game if it's rated M. If you want to reach the majority of retail you better be rated T. Really? Do you live in the USA? Because I do, and I don't know of any store that doesn't sell M-rated games. Certainly all major retailers sell them. Wal-Mart sells them. Gamestop sells them. Circuit City, Best Buy, and Fry's sell them. Some of the biggest-selling games in the last few years (Halo 3, Grand Theft Auto 4) are rated "M". I think you're confusing "M" with "AO".
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2009.03.13 21:12:00 - [144] Originally by: Kyra Felann I think you're confusing "M" with "AO". Yes, I already admitted that. ---- Originally by: Anne M. Lindbergh There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.13 22:29:00 - [145] Originally by: Dmian Edited by: Dmian on 13/03/2009 21:25:40 Originally by: Kyra Felann I think you're confusing "M" with "AO". Yes, I already admitted that. Edit: But besides my confusion, it's true that some major retailers decline to sell M rated games. Read this interesting article called "New Study Finds M-Rated Games Sell Best" in Gamasutra. You'll find this part: Originally by: Gamasutra Notably, according to the study, mature-rated titles, comprising 10 percent of all US retail games examined, have both the highest average MetaCritic scores and the highest average gross sales in the United States -- despite the fact that some major retailers decline to sell them. It's evident that teens like M rated games. But some states put high fines if they catch a store selling M rated games to minors. And the problem with AO is worse still. So, to avoid problems most developers aim for T, I guess. All of that seems pretty obvious to me. I can imagine that only non-gamers would think otherwise. How did CCP get tricked into falling for teen rated restriction? was it because some of their marketing people pushing? maybe their investors pushing? maybe some outside influence bullied them into it? Or are they just losing the gamer spirit and turning into another big faceless corporate machine?
Sky Marshal IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.13 23:10:00 - [146] Edited by: Sky Marshal on 13/03/2009 23:12:26 Well, if you, CCP, are really in this kind of logic, act really. This player, Backdoor Bandit, must be banned : http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=bigshot&cid=696271586 Seriously, see his head ! He will shock most teenagers with his wrong and un-natural ideas on this site His corp must be banned too ! If you really want respect your obligations, do it. (Note : This is an ironic post... Just to criticize the stupidity of the new forum politic of CCP ) ___________________ EVE "Community" become more like WoW each day, with his fanboy attitude. Simplistic logic, Lazy thinking, No capacity to comprehend same a justified whine...
Decius Erus	Posted - 2009.03.13 23:26:00 - [147] Edited by: Decius Erus on 13/03/2009 23:29:56 How can a female be inappropriate for a teen? I don't care what she was wearing (if anything) or doing (they can bend like that??). That is just crazy talk. There are times where I hang my head in shame to be American. Ratings are one of those things...
Dmian Gallente Gallenterrorisme	Posted - 2009.03.13 23:41:00 - [148] Edited by: Dmian on 13/03/2009 23:41:45 Originally by: Decius Erus Edited by: Decius Erus on 13/03/2009 23:29:56 How can a female be inappropriate for a teen? I don't care what she was wearing (if anything) or doing (they can bend like that??). That is just crazy talk. There are times where I hang my head in shame to be American. Ratings are one of those things... Ratings are ratings. How ratings are enforced is a shame. There's nothing wrong with putting a label saying "this game is violent and contains nudity." It's a great help for parents (I'm happen to be father and I appreciate the help.) But stores refusing to sell AO games or even M games is not very wise. Videogames are still being seen as toys for kids. So the "harmful" ones need to be put away for their "safety." Yes, it's that stupid. And please, don't feel ashamed for this kind of things. There are a lot of things in your country to be proud of. Don't let the bad parts shade the good ones. ---- Originally by: Anne M. Lindbergh There is no sin punished more implacably by nature than the sin of resistance to change
MinmatarCitizen100223041	Posted - 2009.03.14 01:04:00 - [149] and so the marketability of eve continues the good things go to placate the masses
Enthral	Posted - 2009.03.14 01:11:00 - [150] I think you're all jumping to conclusions. When premium was released, they striped all of the station interiors except the one, because they "didn't have time" to convert the other station interiors. I think all we're seeing here is that CCP is still "too lazy" to convert all of the station interiors... -Enthral



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