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Zaran Darkstar Divine Slaves	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:26:00 - [1] Since I found no thread about this I decided to make this thread in order to help players figure out a bit what the benefits of tech 3 ships and their subsystems are. The tech 3 ships are composed by the ship's hull with the addition of 5 subsystems that can belong to any of the 4 races. You are not oblidged to use the same race's subsystem as the hull. You can also add up to 3 rigs as well to them . HULLS __________________________________________________________ Amarr strategic cruiser Legion Amarr Strategic Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% Reduction in the amount of heat damage absorbed by modules per level. __________________________________________________________ Caldari strategic cruiser Tengu Caldari Strategic Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% Reduction in the amount of heat damage absorbed by modules per level. __________________________________________________________ Gallente strategic cruiser Proteus Gallente Strategic Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% Reduction in the amount of heat damage absorbed by modules per level. _________________________________________________________ Minmatar strategic cruiser Loki Minmatar Strategic Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% Reduction in the amount of heat damage absorbed by modules per level. __________________________________________________________ Now following the subsystems DEFENCIVE SUBSYSTEMS Amarr Legion Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to all armor resistances per level 10% bonus to remote armor repair system effectiveness per level ______________________________________ Caldari Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to all shield resistances per level 10% bonus to shield transporter effectiveness per level ______________________________________ Gallente Proteus Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to all armor resistances per level. 10% bonus to remote armor repair system effectiveness per level _________________________________________ Minmatar Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to all shield resistances per level 10% bonus to shield transporter effectiveness per level ___________________________________________ ELECTRONIC SUBSYSTEMS Amarr Legion Electronics - Energy Parasitic Complex Subsystem Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to energy vampire and energy neutralizer transfer amount per level ____________________________________________ Caldari Tengu Electronics - Obfuscation Manifold Subsystem Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to ECM target jammer optimal range per level. _____________________________________________ Gallente Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Subsystem Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to warp disruptor and warp scrambler range per level. _______________________________________________ Minmatar Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers Subsystem Skill Bonus: 30% bonus to stasis webifier range per level ________________________________________________ ENGINEERING SUBSYSTEMS Amarr Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to power output per level. __________________________________________________ Caldari Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to power output per level. _________________________________________________ Gallente Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to power output per level. _________________________________________________ Minmatar Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to power output per level.
Zaran Darkstar Divine Slaves	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:28:00 - [2] OFFENCIVE SUBSYSTEMS Amarr Legion Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector Subsystem Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to medium energy turret capacitor use per level 10% bonus to drone damage per level 7.5% bonus to drone hitpoints per level _______________________________________ Caldari Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to kinetic missile damage per level 7.5% bonus to Heavy, Heavy Assault and Assault missile launcher rate of fire per level 10% bonus to heavy missile and heavy assault missile velocity per level ___________________________________________ Gallente Proteus Offensive - Dissonic Encoding Platform Subsystem Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to medium hybrid turret damage per level 10% bonus to medium hybrid turret falloff per level 7.5% bonus to medium hybrid turret tracking per level ____________________________________________ Minmatar Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry Subsystem Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to medium projectile turret damage per level 10% bonus to medium projectile turret optimal range per level 7.5% bonus to medium projectile turret tracking per level PROPULSION SUBSYSTEMS Amarr Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to max velocity per level ____________________________________ Caldari Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% increased agility per level. ____________________________ Gallente Proteus Propulsion - Wake Limiter Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% reduction in microwarpdrive signature radius penalty per level _________________________________ Minmatar Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization Subsystem Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to max velocity per level
Ryusoath Orillian Minmatar INDUSTIENCE	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:29:00 - [3] Originally by: Zaran Darkstar ... You are not oblidged to use the same race's subsystem as the hull. ... wrong. and what is the point of this thread, its all in game.
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:33:00 - [4] Couldnt you just have linked the other threads that have the same info already? There is at least 2 of them in GD forum iirc.
Kalhan Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:36:00 - [5] Originally by: Ryusoath Orillian Originally by: Zaran Darkstar ... You are not oblidged to use the same race's subsystem as the hull. ... wrong. and what is the point of this thread, its all in game. ??? even the interview with "Whisper" said that you are not obligated to use the same race's subsystem as long as you have the skills to use theirs as well.
Zaran Darkstar Divine Slaves	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:57:00 - [6] Edited by: Zaran Darkstar on 11/03/2009 19:05:09 Originally by: Lilith Velkor Couldnt you just have linked the other threads that have the same info already? There is at least 2 of them in GD forum iirc. I haven't copied/pasted from any of these threads you mention. Speaking of the other threads could you post a link to them? Just realised that the hardpoints are related to the offencive subsystem type. I ll update the thread later
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.03.11 18:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Kalhan ??? even the interview with "Whisper" said that you are not obligated to use the same race's subsystem as long as you have the skills to use theirs as well. Sure you can use other race subsystems, but then you need their base hull aswell. Just look at the subsystem attributes in game, especially at 'restricted to ship'
Fuazzole	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:03:00 - [8] Edited by: Fuazzole on 11/03/2009 19:02:51 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1017588 he got thier 1st and better and before you did and with more class and no all caps and just better
Zaran Darkstar Divine Slaves	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:10:00 - [9] Originally by: Lilith Velkor Originally by: Kalhan ??? even the interview with "Whisper" said that you are not obligated to use the same race's subsystem as long as you have the skills to use theirs as well. Sure you can use other race subsystems, but then you need their base hull aswell. Just look at the subsystem attributes in game, especially at 'restricted to ship' In that case you can have only .....er..... 4 ship combinations right? I mean if each race's subsystems need also their race hull to be used then you get only 4 combinations. What am i missing?
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Fuazzole he got thier 1st and better and before you did and with more class and no all caps and just better In that case, this gentleman's solution is downright uber. Spreadsheets are so 80'ies
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:21:00 - [11] Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 11/03/2009 19:23:57 Originally by: Zaran Darkstar What am i missing? There are 3x5 subsystems per race, and you always need one of each subsystem category. You have 3^5 ship combinations per race. Like, (offense 3 / defense 1 / engineering 2 / electronics 2 / propulsion 1) would be one of these combinations. The base hull will come 'naked', without any slots or pg/cpu. You add these by selecting subsystems, which also adds boni to your ship, as well as different visual appearance.
Fuazzole	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Originally by: Fuazzole he got thier 1st and better and before you did and with more class and no all caps and just better In that case, this gentleman's solution is downright uber. Spreadsheets are so 80'ies Clearly a MAC user, Pie Charts and Spreadsheets 4tw
Kalhan Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:22:00 - [13] Edited by: Kalhan on 11/03/2009 19:25:44 your not missing anything... he miss reads my post. according to "whispers" interview, you can have an amarr hull and other races mods in it. making which gives you a great customizable ship as long as you have the subsystem skills of the other races. so it would be more the 3x5 per race. you would have to make a combo chart and I forget how to do that kind of math.
MyOwnSling Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:30:00 - [14] Originally by: Kalhan Edited by: Kalhan on 11/03/2009 19:25:44 your not missing anything... he miss reads my post. according to "whispers" interview, you can have an amarr hull and other races mods in it. making which gives you a great customizable ship as long as you have the subsystem skills of the other races. so it would be more the 3x5 per race. you would have to make a combo chart and I forget how to do that kind of math. This is not the case. You must be getting this info from an outdated source. ------------- Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
Zaran Darkstar Divine Slaves	Posted - 2009.03.11 21:27:00 - [15] Originally by: Kalhan Edited by: Kalhan on 11/03/2009 19:25:44 your not missing anything... he miss reads my post. according to "whispers" interview, you can have an amarr hull and other races mods in it. making which gives you a great customizable ship as long as you have the subsystem skills of the other races. so it would be more the 3x5 per race. you would have to make a combo chart and I forget how to do that kind of math. The thing is that after closer inspection i noticed that each specific race's subsystem refers to some restriciton to be used with that race's hull. Also the subsystems i refer i found them on Singularity. The other guy that shows that many combinations in that link contains modules that were not at Singularity. Every sybsystem present at Singularity i posted it here. I found no other subsystems. Now if as i mentioned already each racial subsystem is "tied" to that race's ship hull then we can have only 4 ship combinations and not 4^5 or something. Could some dev clear this out for us please?
Zaran Darkstar Divine Slaves	Posted - 2009.03.11 21:33:00 - [16] Edited by: Zaran Darkstar on 11/03/2009 21:35:38 Originally by: Lilith Velkor Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 11/03/2009 19:23:57 Originally by: Zaran Darkstar What am i missing? There are 3x5 subsystems per race, and you always need one of each subsystem category. You have 3^5 ship combinations per race. Why Singularity has only 1 subsystem of each race then? It should contain every module/rig/subsystem present in the game for the price of 100isk right? Where are the other 2 racial subsystems?
Horchan Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.11 21:46:00 - [17] Originally by: Zaran Darkstar Why Singularity has only 1 subsystem of each race then? It should contain every module/rig/subsystem present in the game for the price of 100isk right? Where are the other 2 racial subsystems? Because you fail hardcore at looking at things on the market. There have been three of each subsystem for each race on the market on Sisi for over a month, and now, there's three of each subsystem for each race on the market on TQ. --- DesuSigs
Zaran Darkstar Divine Slaves	Posted - 2009.03.11 22:08:00 - [18] Edited by: Zaran Darkstar on 11/03/2009 22:09:43 Originally by: Horchan Originally by: Zaran Darkstar Why Singularity has only 1 subsystem of each race then? It should contain every module/rig/subsystem present in the game for the price of 100isk right? Where are the other 2 racial subsystems? Because you fail hardcore at looking at things on the market. There have been three of each subsystem for each race on the market on Sisi for over a month, and now, there's three of each subsystem for each race on the market on TQ. I see what happens finaly: Each race's hull is restricted to that race's subsystems. Only that there are 3 different RACIAL subsystem variations per subsystem category.

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