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Vorlich Dreculia Amarr Universal Business Solutions Terran Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:45:00 - [1] Anyone else think that the graphic looks broke? It used to be so awesome, with a red and a blue shift. I thought I noticed it getting less promininent with the last patch, and now with this one it's gone totally! That was one of the best things about the graphics, the colour shifting was brilliant!!! They should have taken it further, so ships wityh a faster warp speed create a greater shift. Does this mean EVE will be dumbed down in other ways?
Shigsy Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:47:00 - [2] Actually looks pretty good to me, considering the old premium one aswell
Jerik Havo Caldari Tankt	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:48:00 - [3] I think it looks purdy. Seems to make more sense than effects that made it sound like you where trying to break the sound barrier in atmosphere...
Rifter Drifter Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:49:00 - [4] New warp looks great.
Recon Three 181st Legion W A S T E L A N D	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:51:00 - [5] New warp is awesome. But CCP went overboard on the water effects. I feel like I'm playing FFXI again. SAME STYLE, DIFFERENT COLOR. </cuemusic>. _____ :>
digital0verdose Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:52:00 - [6] I like the new graphic. The old one made it seem as if there were some tunnel in space that you were flying through. That said, with the addition of wormholes it was probably a wise change. --------------------------------------
Zaqar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2009.03.11 19:57:00 - [7] Agree with OP, but not sure what the 'dumbed down' comment is about. In-joke? Anyway yeah, the other new effects are great, but the warp looks a bit shoddy IMO.
Antraxor	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:02:00 - [8] The new warp looks awesome. Just make sure you have all your graphic options turned on and it looks far better then it used to.
Dante024781 Mercenary Evolution	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:04:00 - [9] Most of the time if I don't have a reference point I can't even tell I'm in warp, but that might just be my graphics settings.
Vorlich Dreculia Amarr Universal Business Solutions Terran Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:07:00 - [10] It's not your settings. I tried several options. I occasionally think I'm seeing the shifts, but then I realise I'm just flying from red coloured space towards blue coloured. It is in sync with the other graphics changes, but to be honest I don't think they are all necessarily a step forwards. I like almost every other graphics change I've seen (webbing looks a bit gay) but this one just doesn't feel as good as it used to be.
Janu Hull Caldari Terra Incognita Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:19:00 - [11] Originally by: Vorlich Dreculia It used to be so awesome, with a red and a blue shift. The red and blue shifting is still there, just VERY subdued. In fact, that seems to be the main theme of the graphic changes, they're VERY subtle now, except a few, like POS shields. I don't mind so much. In the event of an emergency, my ego may be used as a floatation device.
Michelle Kaku	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:22:00 - [12] Originally by: Janu Hull Originally by: Vorlich Dreculia It used to be so awesome, with a red and a blue shift. The red and blue shifting is still there, just VERY subdued. In fact, that seems to be the main theme of the graphic changes, they're VERY subtle now, except a few, like POS shields. I don't mind so much. It shouldnt be unless your in the last 10 seconds of your warp. Have you restarted your client after turning graphics up? Hit optimize and set it for quality, then make sure you turn everything on, n restart your client.
Antraxor	Posted - 2009.03.11 20:29:00 - [13] I just read that due to patching problems alot of people are having missing textures with the new warp effect. You may want to try redownloading the client and reinstalling, then making sure you got your graphics optimized for quality.
Hull Blaster Gallente Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2009.03.11 23:27:00 - [14] I like the new effect, I just wish they'd kept the shake from the old warp... just felt a bit more violent instead of the peaceful way of being hurled from nothing to a gazillion miles per hour in a few seconds
Necrosmith Gallente Chunder Corp	Posted - 2009.03.11 23:42:00 - [15] I couldn't care less, tbh. ---- For those of you who claim to support the troops and oppose national health care, I have a question. Why do you insist on punishing our veterans with free health care?
Oburn Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:11:00 - [16] I miss the violence that was the old warp. The shaking and pop of entering warp. I dont like that the new warp effect fades after some time and it looks like your not even moving. Also turn down station audio or turn up other sounds. ----------------------------------------------------- If you melt dry ice can you swim in it and not get wet?
FreddyMac	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:15:00 - [17] I agree that new warp is lame. Other graphic changes good. That is all.
Neshirana	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:23:00 - [18] Please bring back the old warping effect. Warping used to have a satisfying feel to it. Even though it did sound like you were breaking the sound barrier, it still gave a very positive reinforcement that something was happening. The sound, the shaking, the tunnel -- bring it all back, please :)
Khalia Nestune	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:27:00 - [19] Yes, the new warp is too calm! The old one had great sense of speed and the shaking effects were great. Please please make this a client option!
Visaggio	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:29:00 - [20] I don't mind the subdued warp effect, if it would only last until i'm on target. It looks like i'm out of warp when i'm still 10-15 seconds away from warp destination.
Snowden Vel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:30:00 - [21] New warp effect feels way too sterile, the old one made it feel like you were ripping across space and time with a massive, deadly vessel. The new one is at best boring and at worst creates the impression you're not even moving.
Cade Morrigan Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:33:00 - [22] I liked the old one better.
Securitas Protector Final Conflict UK	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:34:00 - [23] Originally by: Vorlich Dreculia (webbing looks a bit gay) Not to be anal(no pun intended) but no, it doesn't look gay. Maybe there's a better word?
temponita	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:38:00 - [24] Originally by: Oburn I miss the violence that was the old warp. The shaking and pop of entering warp. I dont like that the new warp effect fades after some time and it looks like your not even moving. Also turn down station audio or turn up other sounds. Totally agree! End of warp always has me wondering "are we done what! oh..." - not an improvement that way. Also we need an "in station" sound level control. As it stands, there is no way to keep things level without using the SVM feature on my card which has a negative affect on a variety of ambient effects in the game. Please fix this - thx
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:45:00 - [25] Edited by: Neo Omni on 12/03/2009 00:47:32 The red and blue shift was actually (in the world of physics) correct. As one approaches the speed of light, everything before you will appear blue while everything behind you will appear red. The faster, the more intense the effect. This is the electromagnetic radiation equivalent of the screaming train running past you. High pitched as it approaches, followed by low pitch as it passes. Anyway, that is the one thing I liked about the warp in this game, now I don't like it. It looks like I'm flying thru water or something. I know EVE isnt real life, but it would be nice if they stuck with real life physics. There are other optical aberrations involved in close to light speed travel...maybe the Dev team will look into it someday. Just open a textbook on Einstein's Relativity.
JonnyKay Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:53:00 - [26] nah, new warp effect is pretty awesome
tweaky boson Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:56:00 - [27] - no light doppler - no dramatic sense of speed - watery stuff is wtf? - no good sense of acceleration or deceleration at ends fail effect is fail
Frug Repo Industries	Posted - 2009.03.12 00:57:00 - [28] Originally by: Neo Omni Edited by: Neo Omni on 12/03/2009 00:47:32 The red and blue shift was actually (in the world of physics) correct. As one approaches the speed of light, everything before you will appear blue while everything behind you will appear red. The faster, the more intense the effect. This is the electromagnetic radiation equivalent of the screaming train running past you. High pitched as it approaches, followed by It's called the Doppler effect, Einstein. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor
Funtclaps	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:03:00 - [29] Originally by: tweaky boson - no light doppler - no dramatic sense of speed - watery stuff is wtf? - no good sense of acceleration or deceleration at ends fail effect is fail ^^ this It r teh suck
Helena Shun Caldari United Capsuleers' Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:09:00 - [30] The new warping effect totally killed my sense of speed that the old one had... Also, gone are the new Star map (back to pre-TQ with no zoom-in, zoom-out), engine trails and clocking effect... Seems like we went back a year for those and well... the new wrap just feels crappy. But I really like the jumping bubble thingy.
Neo Omni Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:13:00 - [31] Originally by: Frug Originally by: Neo Omni Edited by: Neo Omni on 12/03/2009 00:47:32 The red and blue shift was actually (in the world of physics) correct. As one approaches the speed of light, everything before you will appear blue while everything behind you will appear red. The faster, the more intense the effect. This is the electromagnetic radiation equivalent of the screaming train running past you. High pitched as it approaches, followed by It's called the Doppler effect, Einstein. I know what it's called...what's your point?
Cyprus Black Caldari Elitist Jerks Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:25:00 - [32] It looks about the same except the new one is oblong. ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
gpfwestie Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:31:00 - [33] I like it. Possibly it's no better, but I was bored of the old one. Camera shake - didn't everyone turn that off anyway ?
Atlas Oracle Minmatar Colossus Enterprises	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:33:00 - [34] i like the old one better also. the new one does not bother me though. just like the old one a lot better.
Pro Vlepomenos	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:36:00 - [35] Seriously,bring back the old one.At least make it optional. You brought out a good patch and people are having fun.It's not so bad to admit once in a while some bad moves and listen to your playerbase.Warping is the most comon action in EVE and now its less attractive.Many newbies quit this game out of bordom and i think this is one more step towards it. It should be the other way around,but the non-shaking warp makes me sick.
gpfwestie Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:39:00 - [36] Also, when you have a big fleet warping into a battle I always feel the need for some of this Duh Duh Dl Dl Dl D Duh Dl D Dluh
Zarlis Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.12 01:49:00 - [37] i'm just glad the ****ty screen judder has gone
gpfwestie Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.03.12 02:01:00 - [38] Originally by: Pro Vlepomenos the non-shaking warp makes me sick. You have, like the opposite of motion sickness ? I feel for you dude. Here is the rub - people do quit out of boredom, but not because of some pointless graphical effect that has been taken out, People quick because of Pos-Snorefare (PVP Players) or lack of exciting missions (PVE Players). That is what needs fixing point 2 already (hopefully) addressed in Aprocifilias with wormholes point 1 almost addressed in Quantum Rise with Faction Warfare (please, please work on it some more CCP)
Kytanos Termek Caldari Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.03.12 03:09:00 - [39] I agree with OP
Tako Yaki	Posted - 2009.03.12 03:22:00 - [40] Camera shake needs to come back, no question. I think warping is totally weak without it. Didn't like it? You could turn it off. I liked it, and I have no option to turn it back on. If they wanted to do away with it, they could have at least changed camera shake to "off by default". I mean who would have a problem with that? Way to "fix" something that worked just fine.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.03.12 03:37:00 - [41] I also agree with OP. I also getting more bored with warping. I also didn't like the new warp effect, all settings on max, looks too much like liquid most of the time. Looks worse if you look behind your ship where you can see where it ends and you have some kind of wavy ripping effect.
digital0verdose Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.12 04:51:00 - [42] Originally by: Neo Omni I know EVE isnt real life, but it would be nice if they stuck with real life physics. Kind of like hitting your ships top speed and leaving the engines on in the middle of space right? --------------------------------------
Yelan Zhou Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.12 05:03:00 - [43] Edited by: Yelan Zhou on 12/03/2009 05:03:40 I ponder if those new effects where realy needed and why CCP decided to spend time to change them.Same goes for the new ship icons, I mean wtf?!!
Vasherion	Posted - 2009.03.12 05:08:00 - [44] I don't care for the new warp either. Looks like a simple blur shader. The old shake & tunnel was far better. Well at least I got to taste the old game a bit. This always happens when I try a game they over expand and change good things.
Anton Marx Caldari Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.12 05:13:00 - [45] I totally agree with the OP. I find the new warp effect both very very ugly (like if I look at the "watery effect" it just looks like a pile of edgy black-o-transparent shapes forming around my ship) and gameplay experience-reducing because for some strange reason it causes my client to drop from 80 to under 20 fps the second I click warp (still can't figure out that one) So for me it's very very annoying :( PS: playing on 1280x800 with 24/8 and 32/z-buffer + shader/textures at high and all other eye-killing effects such as bloom/hdr and shadows OFF. :D DESTROYED Against ALL Authorities ?????! (c) Ivan Wise
Lethos Aranis THE BLACK RAGE Cruor-Salax Legion	Posted - 2009.03.12 05:15:00 - [46] It's very meh and the lack of any sense of motion is awful. There really is no easy visual clue that you're coming out of warp. You're just in this watery, blurred bubble and then bam, you're at your destination. I really miss the violent shake of the last warp graphic as you could easily tell when the tunnel was breaking down.
Rozoq	Posted - 2009.03.12 05:22:00 - [47] yes the new warp effect is the lame..everything else looks great though!
Muntz Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2009.03.12 05:55:00 - [48] I'm glad I'm not alone in my frustration here. I feel like my warp has been totally neutered. It went from pit bull to rat dog. Peterbilt to Hyundai. The old sound effect, that's been around since I played Eve in beta, was visceral. Coupled with the camera shake (that you could turn off if it bothered you) it gave you the sense that you were a part of something powerful, that this was a truly awesome machine at your command. Now it's like riding the elevator. Not only that, but the graphic effects now look kinda half-assed. Given how much time we spend warping from place to place in Eve, I'm truly sorry about these changes. Most of the other changes, I'm psyched about. But these seemingly small (and to some, insignificant) changes are really for the worse. Here's hoping we can reach some compromise.
Ivy Scorn Amarr Nethro Ore Conglomerate	Posted - 2009.03.12 05:59:00 - [49] Originally by: gpfwestie I like it. Possibly it's no better, but I was bored of the old one. Camera shake - didn't everyone turn that off anyway ? ofc, but once in a while I turned it back on for the warp. usually cursed myself for doing so in the next "missile bombardment" though guess I won't be doing that anymore.
Tako Yaki	Posted - 2009.03.12 10:33:00 - [50] Agree with majority of posters here. Much of the new patch is really good, or will be really good, but we need a sense of motion back in the warp. Considering how much time we spend in warp, and how easy it might be to give us the option to have some camera shake and power back, I hope the development team will grant us this small relief in the sure to be upcoming patch.
Sirani Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.12 10:35:00 - [51] what I don't like about the new warp effect is, it ends far too quickly, the effect completely disappears but my ship is still in warp for another 10 seconds or so, it's silly -------------------
xeneon AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.03.12 10:58:00 - [52] Originally by: Anton Marx ...and gameplay experience-reducing because for some strange reason it causes my client to drop from 80 to under 20 fps the second I click warp (still can't figure out that one) So for me it's very very annoying :( Exact same problem here too.
Random Thug	Posted - 2009.03.12 11:07:00 - [53] New warp feels lame. Old one had more kick. And I miss the Gallente shopping mall interior. All-in-all I'd rather be using Classic.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.12 11:10:00 - [54] Originally by: Vorlich Dreculia Anyone else think that the graphic looks broke? It used to be so awesome, with a red and a blue shift. I thought I noticed it getting less promininent with the last patch, and now with this one it's gone totally! That was one of the best things about the graphics, the colour shifting was brilliant!!! They should have taken it further, so ships wityh a faster warp speed create a greater shift. Does this mean EVE will be dumbed down in other ways? There still is a red and blue shift....
Sashryn	Posted - 2009.03.12 11:31:00 - [55] Originally by: gpfwestie Originally by: Pro Vlepomenos the non-shaking warp makes me sick. You have, like the opposite of motion sickness ? I feel for you dude. Heh, actually I have the same problem with the motion issue. This isn't the only MMO I play (I play EQ2 as well), if I go from one of my main chars with 50% run speed to a lowbie with no run speed, I get nauseous (not full on sick, but slightly dizzyish) pretty quick from the fast to slow, I feel like I'm moving in molasses. Unfortunately the new warp graphic does just that to me, it feels like I'm barely moving and I've had to take regular breaks playing, especially doing courier missions. I like the new jump gate graphic, but I really would like to see the old warp-tunnel effect back, or at least a toggle for it. It felt like I was moving fast and tearing through space, not a leisurely stroll. It was also obvious when you were at the end of your warp, the tunnel would disappear and you'd be there. I can barely tell when I've arrived at my destination now.
Jesum Amarr Black Rainbow Knights Unity Thru Aggression.	Posted - 2009.03.12 11:39:00 - [56] I do not agree. ____________ [-..-] Jesum ♥
Vanakov Mek'lanavar Sileo In Pacis	Posted - 2009.03.12 11:58:00 - [57] I think the new warp is awesome apart from the last ten seconds when u cant tell if ur moving or not... sound effect is much better tho \o/ whats with the minmatar station sound effects? way too loud, theres a stupid high pitched noise which gets progressivly louder, makes my ears bleed
zacuis Great Big Research	Posted - 2009.03.12 12:07:00 - [58] warp effect is ok. but the new pos labs look terrible.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.03.12 12:08:00 - [59] The graphic is fine, if a bit subtle. It's something you see all the time so shouldn't be outrageous. It just cuts off way too early. I feel like I'm drifting for a really looooooong time then I finally drop out of warp... like what the hell? But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2009.03.12 12:15:00 - [60] Edited by: Maria Kalista on 12/03/2009 12:16:23 I liked it at first. Now... Well, what I really miss is the awesome 'WHOOSH' sound of being picked up by something huge and then thrown away over epic light years and light years. Like the warp sound 'Mass Effect has'. It now just whistles. like 'wsss...' and you're in another star system. 'Wsss'. that sounds... wrong. Originally by: CCP Wrangler I really need to stop watching commercials... Wrangler
Dravius Luxor Minmatar Black Elite	Posted - 2009.03.12 12:38:00 - [61] I cannot comment on the new warp effect yet, because I believe I have yet to see it. I get what looks like a patchwork quilt being flushed down a toilet. Must have a look at my graphics settings...
Tako Yaki	Posted - 2009.03.12 15:39:00 - [62] Originally by: Dravius Luxor I cannot comment on the new warp effect yet, because I believe I have yet to see it. I get what looks like a patchwork quilt being flushed down a toilet. Must have a look at my graphics settings... Screenshot?
Ana Vyr DB - LJ Industries	Posted - 2009.03.12 16:01:00 - [63] The new warp is OK, but I LOVE what they did with warp gates. The deep bass sound of them is really cool...and a LOT less annoying then the previous whoosh sound which was just way way to loud.
Yinjin Zeke Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.17 17:39:00 - [64] New warping graphics need tweaking but I like the style, just a bit too wet. What I really hate is the lack of camera shake, warping without it feels gimped. It's an option, you can disable it, give it back. However, when you select the camera shake option in the settings menu, it still mentions warping, so I hope it's a bug.
TSX01	Posted - 2009.03.17 22:17:00 - [65] Hate the new warp effect, traveling in Eve is boring as hell, so I never look at the space while I travle, I always take the time to check market, email etc... Before the patch due to the shaking I know when the warp is coming to a end and when it ends. Now, there is no sound, so shake, making life very very hard, as if there is something interesting that I have to check out in warp. Worst chance EVER.
Thronde Ihatalo Heavy Industries Ihatalo Cartel	Posted - 2009.03.17 22:24:00 - [66] Originally by: Rifter Drifter New warp looks great. Exactly. I love it.
Myrkala Minmatar Aurora Acclivitous	Posted - 2009.03.17 22:24:00 - [67] For me the effect looks very pixelated for some reason, have tried fiddling with the settings but no change... I liked the old one more, the current one doesn't convey much speed or traveling at all, the effect is way too subtle, a blend of the old and current one might work. "Ruppie ain't no puppie."
Crayton Raven Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.17 22:57:00 - [68] Edited by: Crayton Raven on 17/03/2009 22:58:15 I'm new to eve, but i have had older char once few years back and i remember the old warp and i loved it. This new one is quite lame graphics, sound and that shake would be nice too. I don't like the new warp. EDIT: i like the warp outer edges but not the inner, it looks wrong somehow from the inner layer. ________________________________________________ Cool boys never die...
Ben Derindar Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.03.17 22:59:00 - [69] I prefer the classic warp effects as well. I've noticed that the watery effect of the new tunnel seems to be accentuated when viewed against areas of background with high contrast, but it's not so bad when viewed against a background that looks similar in every direction. The old one seemed to be the same faint blue no matter where you went, which was fine. In contrast the new doppler effect looks like a ugly blob of pastel blue in front and a similarly horrible pink effect behind, whereas in Classic it seemed much more like a true shift depending on the existing system background, i.e. when warping in a predominantly red system, the colour in front wasn't necessarily blue, just "less red". Also, bring back the camera shake as well please, kthx. /Ben
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.03.17 23:24:00 - [70] Agreed, the warp effect is very dependant on the background colour of the system you're in now. For some of them it blends into the sky colour a bit and I find it almost tolerable, for others it's really in your face. if you disagree with me then you should probably post a response and stop reading my signature.
Fikreta	Posted - 2009.03.18 00:21:00 - [71] I do like new stargate jumps -both animation and sound, they are very well done and much better than before. But warp effect is really weak! Besides other things mentioned, I wonder what happened with that cool background image distortion when looking aside? And let's not forget the cyno it's totally ****** up
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.18 00:22:00 - [72] Originally by: Vorlich Dreculia Anyone else think that the graphic looks broke? It used to be so awesome, with a red and a blue shift. I thought I noticed it getting less promininent with the last patch, and now with this one it's gone totally! That was one of the best things about the graphics, the colour shifting was brilliant!!! They should have taken it further, so ships wityh a faster warp speed create a greater shift. Does this mean EVE will be dumbed down in other ways? Apart form the godawful pixellation its pretty awesome once then they fix the pixellation it'll be omgbqqawesome

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