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Murasaki Ryujin
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Posted - 2009.03.13 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Murasaki Ryujin on 13/03/2009 17:09:12 The concept certianly works in an ishtar in level 4's. I don't think it would work solo, but as part of a fleet where some other damage dealing ships are mixing it up with the sleepers in the 20-60 k range, a sentry domi at 90k should be able to lend some decent firepower support. The question is would the sleepers 'decide' that it was worth a mad rush charge on the Domi or its drones. All the cruisers and fgs I've seen so far have > 1k/s mwd like speed.
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kera3
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Posted - 2009.03.14 14:30:00 -
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Im using a domi in w space with alot of success. so long as you micro manage your drones properly its no porblem.
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Imiarr Timshae
Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2009.03.14 16:28:00 -
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God damn you people **** me off.
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Nisstyree
Chimera Raiders
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Posted - 2009.03.16 06:09:00 -
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We have been living in a wormhole of dangerous level for 3 days now and have cleared out all the plexes of any relevance. Our primary ships are domis usually 4-5 plus 1-2 abaddons, we had absolutely no problems with drones being killed. Yes sometimes the sleepers attack drones but only when certain circumstances occur such as drones being top on the treath list or when the sleepers only had few ships left. Sentries do an excellent job and have very high survivability while ECM drones will get very high on the treath list and thus be killed. We have observed and noticed various behaviour patterns of the sleeper AI and at this point the only unpredictable part of the sleepers is what ship-type last to be killed actually triggers the next wave.
I have to say that CCP did a fine job with these sleepers and has incouraged us to learn quickly, but once you understand how to take them on these chaps aren't so nasty after all. The only Wormhole we didn't attempt to do was the deadly one simply because it is rather obvious that for that capital ships are a necessity.
Although we had no losses of any relevance, I suggest you engage the sleepers with a group of organized players because the learning curve to take these guys on is extremely steep
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Snow Banshee
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.16 09:42:00 -
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Went 2 times in wspace since now and faced 2 spawns in a rigged myrmidon with 4x 250mm ( antimater) and drones, and things are not that bad.
First off: i was able to tank anything below BS.
Secondly sleepers attack medium drones but tend to ignore light drones. At least since u fire also with guns.
My setup: 4x 250mm II, probe launcher, salvager 5x cap rec II 2x MAR II, 1x explo II, 1x therm II, 1x kin II, eanm2
drones: mix of hammerheads and hobgoblins (t1) rigs:
1x ccc 2x aux nano pump
This setup perma tank with both reps and was able to tank 6 sleeper cruisers. To kill them i shot with rails and then send hobgoblins ( medium drones are targeted immediatly). Usually a cruiser drone is 3/4 dead before they try to kill drones. rescoop and resend .. sleeped dead, then i go salvage/loot since i kill the next sleeper.
that way i can kill the forst 2 spawns... but have to warp when appead the BS .. there no hope to tank it in a myrm.. so i just go to the next anomaly site ^_^
The only thing you should do is: WATCH YOUR DRONES.
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Bierschwale McWylie
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Posted - 2009.03.18 00:42:00 -
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at a perimeter anomoly I was able to do the first 2 waves and lost one t2 lite drone in an ishkur, but it was a mad grab/deploy dash to keep the drones alive. But made the mistake of launching my light armor repair drone early in second wave. Everyone shot it instantly, didn't last one volly several missiles went by that had been aimed at it.
wait that may be it, a BS with drone bay full of lar drones sent out one at a time. the ultimate anti-everything tank!!!
How much does it cost to make light armor repair 1 drones?
Just a thought......
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Ripcha Headov
Art of War
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Posted - 2009.03.18 01:51:00 -
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Drones are far from worthless in WH space. So far the main ship i have been using infact is the Ishtar. It can solo any anomlies in the easy space (2 non webbing bs's), 2 together can JUST about do the medium anomalies aslong as u work together and kill the webby frigs ASAP to keep up transversal. As for the hard sites. Only done 1 sofar and that was in a Domi gang. T2 sentries are the only weapon i've used against them sofar.. and hobgoblins.
You need to keep a very close eye on them because when they do get shot they die fast. So spares are useful incase your not fast enough.
Light drones kill the frigs fast enough i have found. But the frigs also kill light drones remarkably fast (only lost 1 hobgoblin and 1 garde so far though).
The obvious advantage of drones is u have free high slots for scanner, salvager, rr + whatever else u may want. You have to be careful, but if you play your cards right i think drones are the best weapon u can use against them if your man power is limited and u can't have dedicated scanning ships and logistics with u.
Hope this goes some way to dispelling the myth that drones are useless against sleepers.
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