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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:27:00 -
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Well as the title says, a lot of the alliances as far as I am aware, are run by a few notable and dedicated players. However with the advent of SHIVA and the new alliances structuring I see a lot of corps and people being very purturbed by the acts of the alliance being run by a 'Single' person.
So out of the alliances there currently are, who will survive the change and who will drop out? Of course this is just out of interest and not in anayweay aimed at flaming any particular corp/alliance in any way...
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:27:00 -
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Well as the title says, a lot of the alliances as far as I am aware, are run by a few notable and dedicated players. However with the advent of SHIVA and the new alliances structuring I see a lot of corps and people being very purturbed by the acts of the alliance being run by a 'Single' person.
So out of the alliances there currently are, who will survive the change and who will drop out? Of course this is just out of interest and not in anayweay aimed at flaming any particular corp/alliance in any way...
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:35:00 -
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I'm not sure of how many alliances will fall, because that will still be a very very hard thing to do...
however with that said
I can see EVERY alliance changing in the game, and more alliances popping up. Alliances shrinking down in size and new more powerful ones taking part of their former areas.
The game will get extremely dynamic very quickly. You will find friends enemies and the uncommon enemy a friend.
Just wait... you'll see 
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LLeBRing
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:35:00 -
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I'm not sure of how many alliances will fall, because that will still be a very very hard thing to do...
however with that said
I can see EVERY alliance changing in the game, and more alliances popping up. Alliances shrinking down in size and new more powerful ones taking part of their former areas.
The game will get extremely dynamic very quickly. You will find friends enemies and the uncommon enemy a friend.
Just wait... you'll see
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:43:00 -
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I doubt any will fall as most already have a person or corp that speaks for them, and those who dont will probably rotate whos is the alliance leader or just take a vote every so often to decide leadership for a set period, most corps in alliances already give up some sort of leadership to an alliance council so making one corp the head of this council changes little in real terms.
The problem will be when all wars are alliance wars which will make more alt corps and divisions of such and such or just make alliance corps pull totally out of empire.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:43:00 -
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I doubt any will fall as most already have a person or corp that speaks for them, and those who dont will probably rotate whos is the alliance leader or just take a vote every so often to decide leadership for a set period, most corps in alliances already give up some sort of leadership to an alliance council so making one corp the head of this council changes little in real terms.
The problem will be when all wars are alliance wars which will make more alt corps and divisions of such and such or just make alliance corps pull totally out of empire.
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:59:00 -
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I think that Shiva will make Alliances more real with the new structures/units and alliance systems.
it will allow for more official borders etc.
as for who will fall and who will rise i dont know, but i think smaller alliances will be more willing to try their luck. IE in CFS space (not ment as a flame)
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BEAutiful
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Posted - 2004.08.15 20:59:00 -
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I think that Shiva will make Alliances more real with the new structures/units and alliance systems.
it will allow for more official borders etc.
as for who will fall and who will rise i dont know, but i think smaller alliances will be more willing to try their luck. IE in CFS space (not ment as a flame)
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.08.15 21:05:00 -
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Nothing's stopping alliances from keeping the current way of doing things if they don't like the Shiva changes.
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.08.15 21:05:00 -
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Nothing's stopping alliances from keeping the current way of doing things if they don't like the Shiva changes.
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Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2004.08.15 21:11:00 -
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I hope with the coming of Shiva that alliances will be able to completely control territory. If this is the case then alliance will have to get larger member bases and smaller territories. As they will have to actively patrol them, you will have ot have 23/7 coverage to protect your assets also. I agree with the above people though that historical enemies may find themselves working closer together, allied alliances may drift apart.
I think it will all boil down to how much territory you can effectively control. For that you need active people.
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Cavtrooper
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Posted - 2004.08.15 21:11:00 -
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I hope with the coming of Shiva that alliances will be able to completely control territory. If this is the case then alliance will have to get larger member bases and smaller territories. As they will have to actively patrol them, you will have ot have 23/7 coverage to protect your assets also. I agree with the above people though that historical enemies may find themselves working closer together, allied alliances may drift apart.
I think it will all boil down to how much territory you can effectively control. For that you need active people.
cav
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.15 21:14:00 -
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SA already runs like a Big Corporation.
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Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2004.08.15 21:14:00 -
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SA already runs like a Big Corporation.
I am Jack's broken moral compass. I am Jack's STILL trapped in eve limbo. maybe not for much longer... |
Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:20:00 -
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I ahve to agree on the statement that Cavtrooper posted above. It will certainly be interesting to see how things pan out over the first 8-12 weeks.
Anyone else any comment on this?
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Skarsnik
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Posted - 2004.08.16 18:20:00 -
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I ahve to agree on the statement that Cavtrooper posted above. It will certainly be interesting to see how things pan out over the first 8-12 weeks.
Anyone else any comment on this?
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Kirushi
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:16:00 -
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not much will change
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Kirushi
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:16:00 -
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not much will change
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:16:00 -
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I do not see advantages above the current situation, the upkeep of an alliance is alot of money while the benefits are not any diffrent from the current situation.
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TGIF
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Posted - 2004.08.16 19:16:00 -
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I do not see advantages above the current situation, the upkeep of an alliance is alot of money while the benefits are not any diffrent from the current situation.
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:07:00 -
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You will see some large alliances downsize into corps who are like minded in nature. The PVPers will be more concentrated as well as the miners. More alt corps will pop up to avoid Empire Alliance wars.
I am hoping we can place sentry guns at gates and have them fire on hostile corps/alliances.
Alliances who can not defend their "Claimed" space will die off as more corporations move in and place their stations with defenses.
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Zagum Darkfin
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:07:00 -
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You will see some large alliances downsize into corps who are like minded in nature. The PVPers will be more concentrated as well as the miners. More alt corps will pop up to avoid Empire Alliance wars.
I am hoping we can place sentry guns at gates and have them fire on hostile corps/alliances.
Alliances who can not defend their "Claimed" space will die off as more corporations move in and place their stations with defenses.
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Mydrial Jacor
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:14:00 -
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For many allainces POS will be more of a luxury becuase at the core of their territory they still have stations that cannot be destroyed or captured, the NPC ones. To really make control of territory matter these stations would need to be effectivly shutdown.
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Mydrial Jacor
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Posted - 2004.08.16 20:14:00 -
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For many allainces POS will be more of a luxury becuase at the core of their territory they still have stations that cannot be destroyed or captured, the NPC ones. To really make control of territory matter these stations would need to be effectivly shutdown.
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Lise Cantara
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:13:00 -
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I have to agree with some posts in here that certain alliances WILL downsize. The normal Stations will not be of any consequence, what will be the downfall of a lot will be the agruement of who runs the alliance week in week out.
For instance, Corp A has 30 members, Corp B 60 and Corp C 30
All of Corp B vote for Corp B's nominee, Corp A and Corp C vote for thier respected nominees, agruements ensue that they will never have reresentation in leadership, and leave alliance leaving Corp B alone.
It may have and could well have lasting repercussions and we may find 0.0 space opening up more for the smaller corps to settle into a little corner and become quiet powerful on the quiet.
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Lise Cantara
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Posted - 2004.08.16 21:13:00 -
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I have to agree with some posts in here that certain alliances WILL downsize. The normal Stations will not be of any consequence, what will be the downfall of a lot will be the agruement of who runs the alliance week in week out.
For instance, Corp A has 30 members, Corp B 60 and Corp C 30
All of Corp B vote for Corp B's nominee, Corp A and Corp C vote for thier respected nominees, agruements ensue that they will never have reresentation in leadership, and leave alliance leaving Corp B alone.
It may have and could well have lasting repercussions and we may find 0.0 space opening up more for the smaller corps to settle into a little corner and become quiet powerful on the quiet.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:37:00 -
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Nothing much will change. Altho how much really depends on how easy pos will be found and destoryed/incapacitated.
After all, strategically the curretn alliances have sounds positions and space, meaning the least possible entry points.
If any alliance would want to completely shut off its space it would need many more active pilots tho, and 23/7 gatecamps utilising most efficient camping techniques.
This will be hard, if not impossible, so I foresee anarchy.
This suits me fine.
In the end, with pos being cheap, nothing much will change. POS will be killed like ships, alot of isk will be destroyed, but in the end the earning potential balances that and all we have is some enw eyecandy that you can shoot at as well.
Before ccp implements a way for non-static combat (i.e. whenever we get to make safespots meaningless), all that remains is gankage and blobbing, with the occasional fun exception. Wether this takes place at a pos or at a stargate is a meaningless difference.
The main thing in shiva is not pos, but the rest of castor tech2 and the new ships. Only if pos are extremely hard to find and safespots are banished from the lands will fighting be meaningful and alliances end.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:37:00 -
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Nothing much will change. Altho how much really depends on how easy pos will be found and destoryed/incapacitated.
After all, strategically the curretn alliances have sounds positions and space, meaning the least possible entry points.
If any alliance would want to completely shut off its space it would need many more active pilots tho, and 23/7 gatecamps utilising most efficient camping techniques.
This will be hard, if not impossible, so I foresee anarchy.
This suits me fine.
In the end, with pos being cheap, nothing much will change. POS will be killed like ships, alot of isk will be destroyed, but in the end the earning potential balances that and all we have is some enw eyecandy that you can shoot at as well.
Before ccp implements a way for non-static combat (i.e. whenever we get to make safespots meaningless), all that remains is gankage and blobbing, with the occasional fun exception. Wether this takes place at a pos or at a stargate is a meaningless difference.
The main thing in shiva is not pos, but the rest of castor tech2 and the new ships. Only if pos are extremely hard to find and safespots are banished from the lands will fighting be meaningful and alliances end.
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Shamrock
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:41:00 -
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Whoever evolves, wins.
Shamrock
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Shamrock
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Posted - 2004.08.16 22:41:00 -
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Whoever evolves, wins.
Shamrock
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