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Tomi Maeda
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Posted - 2009.03.14 21:25:00 -
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Just curious how the Marauders and Command Ships are doing in WH space? I remember chats about Golems or Paladins not doings as hot against sleepers. I have a Nighthawk and a Paladin, just don't know which to go in with or fit yet. Doing it possibly solo at first to see, more than likely with a corp fleet for longer deployments.
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Copying Machine
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Posted - 2009.03.14 21:33:00 -
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Go to low sec wormhole and try it on a couple of battleships there. High sec wormholes are easy; low sec wormholes are harder, but don't scramble, so you will be able to run away if things'll go south.
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Tomi Maeda
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Posted - 2009.03.14 21:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Copying Machine
Go to low sec wormhole and try it on a couple of battleships there. High sec wormholes are easy; low sec wormholes are harder, but don't scramble, so you will be able to run away if things'll go south.
lol. you think like i do. save my assets if things go south. thats nice to know i won't get scrambled there. thanks!
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Scaldari Anitoba
Gallente
Avalon WP2 Technologies
H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2009.03.14 22:55:00 -
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Dont Bet on that. A corp mate and i found a wormhole in Pator, a 1.0 system, went in thinking that was correct. had not done enough research on the forums, found core sites inside. I took a smaler complex, 6 towers and 4 frigs. The frigs had me webbed and scrammed. my corp mate came in with his domi to help me get out cause i was fitted with rails and when the last frig popped 4 BS's dropped on us and insta popped his domi in one volly. I got out alive. go by the site rating. Sleeper 'plexes seem to have a difficulty indicator of perimeter < frontier < core. all the sites in a wh seem to have the same rating. ours unfortunatly was a core. so it truely is random and we got very lucky/unlucky having found one in 1.0 space. So pay attention to the plex ratings, not the system security you come from.
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Tomi Maeda
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Posted - 2009.03.14 23:10:00 -
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O.o wow, sorry about the loss. Took out a dom in one volley? I could imagine the pure shock/stunned look on your mates face. Yeah, think i best read up on it more before anything.
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Durindana
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.03.15 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Scaldari Anitoba
Sleeper 'plexes seem to have a difficulty indicator of perimeter < frontier < core. all the sites in a wh seem to have the same rating. ours unfortunatly was a core. so it truely is random and we got very lucky/unlucky having found one in 1.0 space. So pay attention to the plex ratings, not the system security you come from.
sites of varying difficulty do spawn in the same w-space system. In my limited experience though the tougher sites are less common in certain w-space and more common elsewhere. We do know that w-space difficulty is related to the kspace systems it's linked to - but WATCH OUT because YOU may have entered through high-sec, but there may (and if you see Core sites, probably are or were) OTHER wormholes to low-sec or no-sec. I reached a WH from .9 space that my buddy entered from 0.1, 40j away - mix of perimeter and outpost sites. So your origin system is not the only factor - there likely are other entry WHs
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ViperII
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Posted - 2009.03.15 01:48:00 -
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sofar, i have seen sleeper sentry guns hitting me from 99km for 800 damage. and the sleeper battleships hitting me for around 1200. i have only entered w-space from 1.0 thru 0.5 . sofar, it seems my kinetic missiles do about 10 percent more damage then the other 3 types do. i use a passive tank and missiles, so i haven't a clue about nuets or nos use by sleepers. just my 2 cents worth. fly safe
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Freya B
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Posted - 2009.03.15 10:22:00 -
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I was similarly surprised. Lost an Astarte in about 2 to 2.5 volleys....
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teamz1ssou
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Posted - 2009.03.15 10:57:00 -
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ive been scrambled in wormholes from 0.8 systems. i dont know why people are saying high sec systems dont scramble you, because they do.
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Rogue Bomber
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:44:00 -
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Took a sleipnir in with a couple of alliance mates
took tank from various on 3 sites found
first
including frigs cruisers bs and missile launchers
sleip took damage quite well didnt need assistance from oher members. wouldnt have done it on my own though
found that the argos missile launchers hitting me for 120 quite quick
bs hitting me for 895 dps
was hitting them for inbetween 595-2505 dps on med arties
controlled this on x-large sb and tanked very well
didnt notice any web scram though
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Argendta
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:02:00 -
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Let's sort it by the name: in my experience, those encounters called "Perimeter something" don't scramble, don't web, rather easy; "Frontier something" don't scramble, web, significantly more difficult; "Core something" scramble, web, deadly.
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Yali
Aggressive Tendencies
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Posted - 2009.03.15 14:58:00 -
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Did some with a Nighthawk + broadsword(due to good tank) in 0.0, Didnt have much trouble with the spawns, up to two bs + cruisers. Dont think my wormhole was the hardest, though. If you do harder Wh in 0.0 i suggest using remote repping as that works quiet well.
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SLEEPERS 4a81
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Posted - 2009.03.15 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tomi Maeda
O.o wow, sorry about the loss. Took out a dom in one volley? I could imagine the pure shock/stunned look on your mates face. Yeah, think i best read up on it more before anything.
WE tooK a pics of his face in that really moment...it now decorates my desk, in the strategic control room.
Have you missed that parts in which our AI was "a bit" improved" ?? 
So why WE coulnd't web and scramble you at any time in any place??
We are stillll......hunnngry.
For any other questions, please: present yourself at any of our Wormhole "customer help" stationZ.
And DON'T FORGET YOUR SHIP.
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Orontes Ovasi
Minmatar
COGNET SpaceSystems Ltd
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.15 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: SLEEPERS 4a81
Originally by: Tomi Maeda
O.o wow, sorry about the loss. Took out a dom in one volley? I could imagine the pure shock/stunned look on your mates face. Yeah, think i best read up on it more before anything.
WE tooK a pics of his face in that really moment...it now decorates my desk, in the strategic control room.
Have you missed that parts in which our AI was "a bit" improved" ??
So why WE coulnd't web and scramble you at any time in any place??
We are stillll......hunnngry.
For any other questions, please: present yourself at any of our Wormhole "customer help" stationZ.
And DON'T FORGET YOUR SHIP.
This is my vote for best alt-post I've ever seen
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kano donn
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Posted - 2009.03.15 22:50:00 -
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the other day my corp found a WH and went in with two assault ships and a command ship. we found a grav site and camped it while a few of our newer miners got some rocks. at one point a cruiser and 4 sleeper rats jump on us. we had a mining barge, a cruiser, and a bagger industrial. the sleepers poped the indy. then they turned there attention on one of the AS. it was able to tank all the dmg and the command ship was able to pop the cruiser and the other AS poped the frigs. it was pretty easy.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.03.16 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: SLEEPERS 4a81
Originally by: Tomi Maeda
O.o wow, sorry about the loss. Took out a dom in one volley? I could imagine the pure shock/stunned look on your mates face. Yeah, think i best read up on it more before anything.
WE tooK a pics of his face in that really moment...it now decorates my desk, in the strategic control room.
Have you missed that parts in which our AI was "a bit" improved" ??
So why WE coulnd't web and scramble you at any time in any place??
We are stillll......hunnngry.
For any other questions, please: present yourself at any of our Wormhole "customer help" stationZ.
And DON'T FORGET YOUR SHIP.
awesome sauce
Terianna Eri > :( i wish i were as good a forum ***** as karrade
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foobarx
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Posted - 2009.03.16 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Scaldari Anitoba
Dont Bet on that. A corp mate and i found a wormhole in Pator, a 1.0 system, went in thinking that was correct. had not done enough research on the forums, found core sites inside. I took a smaler complex, 6 towers and 4 frigs. The frigs had me webbed and scrammed. my corp mate came in with his domi to help me get out cause i was fitted with rails and when the last frig popped 4 BS's dropped on us and insta popped his domi in one volly. I got out alive. go by the site rating. Sleeper 'plexes seem to have a difficulty indicator of perimeter < frontier < core. all the sites in a wh seem to have the same rating. ours unfortunatly was a core. so it truely is random and we got very lucky/unlucky having found one in 1.0 space. So pay attention to the plex ratings, not the system security you come from.
It's not random in the sense you have the same likelihood of finding a wormhole to a core system as you you would a wormhole to a perimeter system from highsec. You are far more likely to find easy W-Space systems from highsec and far more likely to find dangerous systems from nullsec.
But there's always a chance. So make sure you check it out first before you risk an expensive ship. The other day I warped in to what I thought was a gas site at an easy system and five towers smoked my Sisters-equipped covops before I could get away.
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Julia Venatrix
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Posted - 2009.03.16 16:51:00 -
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Show Info on the WH before you go through it.
The fluff text says that it leads to "unknown space", "dangerous unknown space", or IIRC "deadly unknown space" - only saw the last one on Sisi, so someone else will have to confirm on TQ.
That should give you an idea of whether or not you should warp in in a rigged Sisters covops, or maybe in something more... insurable.
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foobarx
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Posted - 2009.03.16 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Julia Venatrix
Show Info on the WH before you go through it.
The fluff text says that it leads to "unknown space", "dangerous unknown space", or IIRC "deadly unknown space" - only saw the last one on Sisi, so someone else will have to confirm on TQ.
That should give you an idea of whether or not you should warp in in a rigged Sisters covops, or maybe in something more... insurable.
There are four different levels of "unknown space", and the difference between the first and fourth is huge. Apparently you can differentiate them by the wormhole number. In any event, next time I'm warping there in a reaper.
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