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Frug
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.17 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn What does the scouter say about his powerlevel?
Die.
Someone got pwned though. Over 9000 pwned. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor |
Talon Scorpio
Caldari Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.17 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Viper ****zIe Owned.
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Minaruars
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mik kyo First of all, this is not something that Pandemic Legion normally does, or condones. Had you contacted the proper people you would have been told politely that the alliance is not recruiting, you didn't and so you found me.
Motive:
Despite what you read here it was not isk based at all, and PL is not running round recruitment scamming to pad there killboards. The players in your leadership tried to ruin the reputation of one of my old eve friends by calling him a spy and effectivly co*kblocking his recruitment into PL, therfore incurring my wrath, you simply messed with the wrong guy.
The Scam:
I talked for a long time with various directors and ceos in the three corps in question, eventually we decided that it would be the best course of action to disband these corporations and create just one main corp, which would be the one to join us. While this was ongoing I also gave them a lowsec system that adjoined high security space and which was a decent enough startpoint for our jump route to delve/fountain.
Despite the average eve player posting in this thread and calling these guys stupid, or noobs to have fallen for it, I believe that the vast majority of eve would have done no better.
From the marks point of view he had spoken to three different alliance directors, he had joined the Pandemic Legion voice comms with his guys they had seen PL members in other channels, they had then been moved to a private channel, by someone who obviously had admin access to the ventrillo server. They had gone through all the normal processes to do with joining an alliance, they had been detailed on every tiny bit of life in our alliance and they had secrit operational data provided to them. They had spoken to a diplomat and our head of logistics and they were finally happy.
Of course in reality they had merely been on my vent server with me running about sixty clients and using a trial version of a rather terrible piece of voice changing software, and telling them untold amounts of random detail, every bit of it helping them make up there minds and grow there confidence even if they didn't realise it. I went into everything that goes on in our alliance and what would be expected of them, and importantly what they could expect to make out of the deal. Details important to the scam were put out there amongst a cloud of other unimportant things making it very hard for my marks to pick up on them as being "strange".
A while after they had been educated about the various benefits of joining my alliance, the targets created there new corporation and I recieved the 5 billion isk security deposit, this was the critical point in the scam and I couldn't miss a beat. For my marks i'm sure that this was a critical point for them as well, would I run with there money? or would they actually get to join the alliance. They were told to be ready to move on the 22nd and that alliance jump freighters would be making the run anyway, and would have space.
Good story, if its true.. its impressive.. but also says something about you your corp and your alliance..
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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:13:00 -
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You have done untold harm to your alliance. Your enemies both in the GBC and closer to home are passing this post around to show that PL can't be trusted. Goons tried something like this back in the day, and found that recruitment scams are one thing, when nobody knows if your diplo is legit or not, that's an entirely different issue. Names, Dates, Times, Engagements, Losses, Op-Tempo or STFU! |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Frug
Originally by: Crumplecorn What does the scouter say about his powerlevel?
Die.
Someone got pwned though. Over 9000 pwned.
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Neamus
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:24:00 -
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An elaborate recruitement scam and a well executed one by the sounds of it, but a recruitement scam none the less.
Let this be a warning to all those that are considering joining PL, it appears that they cannot be trusted.
For an erstwhile respected PvP organisation that doesnt condone recruitment scamming and indeed count themselves as honourable, they're certainly very adept at it..
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Maxis Karam
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jas Dor You have done untold harm to your alliance. Your enemies both in the GBC and closer to home are passing this post around to show that PL can't be trusted. Goons tried something like this back in the day, and found that recruitment scams are one thing, when nobody knows if your diplo is legit or not, that's an entirely different issue.
True, since goons started scamming they have almost lost all their space
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Jimer Lins
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Maxis Karam
Originally by: Jas Dor You have done untold harm to your alliance. Your enemies both in the GBC and closer to home are passing this post around to show that PL can't be trusted. Goons tried something like this back in the day, and found that recruitment scams are one thing, when nobody knows if your diplo is legit or not, that's an entirely different issue.
True, since goons started scamming they have almost lost all their space
PL has usually taken a more "honorable" stance than Goons, though. This kind of thing doesn't help that much.
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Calhontor
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Posted - 2009.03.17 18:59:00 -
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I find this very LOL. Not lol at the fact that the corp lost so many ships and what not but LOL at how pathetic PL really are i mean it really is pathetic adn cannot be justified in any way. A recruitment scam will just bring them closer to their own downfall and yes this shows that PL are GOONS!
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Maxis Karam
Originally by: Jas Dor You have done untold harm to your alliance. Your enemies both in the GBC and closer to home are passing this post around to show that PL can't be trusted. Goons tried something like this back in the day, and found that recruitment scams are one thing, when nobody knows if your diplo is legit or not, that's an entirely different issue.
True, since goons started scamming they have almost lost all their space
But on the upside the years of infighting by fat rich decadent Bob member corps handed the Goons Delve on a silver platter with the flick of a traitorous directors switch when years of fighting got them nowhere. They are in a much better region than their old one. But see the problem is that for all the Goons luck in beating Bob on a technicality will that luck continue when everyone else in Eve starts looking at Delve and the current defenders with thier long record of ineptitude in alliance combat. Goons are good at what they do unfortunately large scale organized warefare is not one of them. I wonder what nefarious plans their allies are already churning out. I think alliance warfare is going to get mighty interesting again(finally!) before too long.
Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman |
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Leptine
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:06:00 -
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Now this is interesting, heh.
I actually quite respected Pandemic, good PvP'ers etc. But there's little I hate more in EvE than recruitment scams, just so lame.
Whoever did it should get kicked from alliance imo, that is if you're actually serious about not condoning the practice...
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Mik kyo
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:09:00 -
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Its important to remember that the targets themselves were not saints, they got kicked from there previous alliance for stealing moon minerals and stealing from the alliance.
I targeted them because of what they were doing to my friend, Such things are not left unpunished.
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Bleck Mether
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:09:00 -
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Ooo, glad I read this lol.
I was thinking about making an app but I dont think I will now hehe.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Bleck Mether Ooo, glad I read this lol.
I was thinking about making an app but I dont think I will now hehe.
Don't let a few isolated situations like this sully your opinion of some of the Goons members corps. Remember that the Goon alliance was built on mutual hate of Bob and all the things they stood for and now that Bob is no moar you might find loyaties a changin' against that other corp that nearly everyone hates.
Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman |
Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:17:00 -
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Wasn't Pandemic Legion the alliance that at one point cried that their loyalty was betrayed by an insider? Man, that thread was full of "honor", "word", "loyalty". Guess it was all potty .
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Gneeznow
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bleck Mether Ooo, glad I read this lol.
I was thinking about making an app but I dont think I will now hehe.
OH NOE
PLEASE RECONSIDER
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Blafbeest
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.17 19:53:00 -
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Never trust o**** members, hell even within the alliance we dont trust them \o/. Sorry for your loss but tbh its your own fault.
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Goberth Ludwig
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:02:00 -
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voice changing program LOL mik dont you have anything better to do with your time? xD
- Gob
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Dianeces
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:03:00 -
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O**** best corp in PL~
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Sebea
Bottomfeeders Science and Research
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:08:00 -
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
BWahahahah...
haha.
Seriously, you were pirates, talking to other pirates, and you trusted TOTALLY these pirates with all your worldly belongings and jumped them into the largest camp in EVE history, WITHOUT checking that standings were set within the theater for the side you were choosing to fight on, and your blaming the guys that killed you?
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kytthix
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: kytthix on 17/03/2009 20:09:07 dear god they're calling us goons, what now, they'll accuse us of overusing :smug: or even worse, ****ty corps full of stupid people will stop applying to PL
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PVP Turd
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:23:00 -
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PL Fail. Everybody knows that PL has been jacking their own pets for years now. Wanting to join PL is like wanting to be that stuff that builds up between your toes...oh yeah Toe Jam. Who knows when they are done blowin the Goons maybe they won't be able to recruit anybody anymore |
Tinman256
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:27:00 -
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I dont think LOL does this post enough justice.
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Exacutor
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:30:00 -
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This Mik Kyo scammer seeing halisunations, he is saying we have stolen moon minerals or something. have you ever checked how many Corparations Named "Bregan Dearthe", "BreganDearte" "Bregan De'arte" ...... and goes on this guy is mixing us withsome one else. Our corp was alt made newly and the pre-corp was Turksquad. We have open Crimson Angels just for uniting 2 corp to join PL, if you check the employement history of the players none of them are in any pirate corp before.So your reasons and scamming isnt true to your story.
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Matrix Skye
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:35:00 -
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The fact it's pirate on pirate piracy is pretty dam funny
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Dianeces
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: PVP Turd PL Fail. Everybody knows that PL has been jacking their own pets for years now. Wanting to join PL is like wanting to be that stuff that builds up between your toes...oh yeah Toe Jam. Who knows when they are done blowin the Goons maybe they won't be able to recruit anybody anymore
PL is a terrible alliance and has never accomplished anything without our GoonSwarm overlords. When they inevitably reset us, we'll probably failure cascade and retreat to empire~~
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Mik kyo
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Exacutor This Mik Kyo scammer seeing halisunations, he is saying we have stolen moon minerals or something. have you ever checked how many Corparations Named "Bregan Dearthe", "BreganDearte" "Bregan De'arte" ...... and goes on this guy is mixing us withsome one else. Our corp was alt made newly and the pre-corp was Turksquad. We have open Crimson Angels just for uniting 2 corp to join PL, if you check the employement history of the players none of them are in any pirate corp before.So your reasons and scamming isnt true to your story.
I know why you were removed from Scalar :) And I have chatlogs of you trying to discredit my friend by accusing him of being a spy. Try again.
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Creed Demastikus
Bregan Dearthe United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mik kyo Its important to remember that the targets themselves were not saints, they got kicked from there previous alliance for stealing moon minerals and stealing from the alliance.
I targeted them because of what they were doing to my friend, Such things are not left unpunished.
are u trying to justify yourself by spurting lies ? who "kicked" or who "steal some moon minerals" from who ? we can call in that alliance representatives and ask them who steal their minerals just wonder..
and for your friend.. u saying u do this scam for just "punishing" us ? we doesnt have any connection with his apply to a pl corp nor we have any knowledge of it at first but than the one who first u talk infomred us "the guy trying to join an pl corp and in his application he's not honest at all" etc..
u have very interesting kind of justice idea in your mind..
there is no limit how a person go low..
i have to accept we just bein too naive and believin ppl is our great fault.. as u said its a small scam.. we can survive its no big deal only thing hurting us is bein humilated like this over some stupid "cause"
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Corvac
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dianeces PL is a terrible alliance and has never accomplished anything without our GoonSwarm overlords. When they inevitably reset us, we'll probably failure cascade and retreat to empire~~
Our Goon overlords will never do something like that to us, my good man. They have honor, something this despicable scammer clearly do not have. I will be sure to take this case up at the next representative meeting, to get him banished from the alliance.
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Sabrage
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Posted - 2009.03.17 20:49:00 -
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Serious Spaceship Business, but thank you for the lulz.
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