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GAJY Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.17 11:27:00 - [1] One thing I never understood cause the backgrounds look really mediocre and really showing their age and every system looks the same but a different colour. To me it doesn't feel immersive but everything just feels 2D and fake.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.17 11:29:00 - [2] It's not so much that every system has a nebula, more that the Eve cluster is in one big nebula. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Ouroborus777	Posted - 2009.03.17 11:45:00 - [3] I'm thinking your sense of perspective needs an adjustment. You know those little white pixel-sized dots on the background? Those are other solar systems. The nebulae you think are for each system is actually one giant nebula surrounding the entire Eve cluster of systems. The color of the nebula is based on the local system's star color. That last bit is not particularly realistic to me, but what do I know about stellar dynamics.
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:08:00 - [4] CCP is supposedly in the process of redoing the "skybox" so that the backgrounds will look like a REAL location in space. Meaning that as you move from system to system, the starts/nebluae will change based on where they are in relation to others. This should make it more "realistic". Hopfully they'll cut down on the bright colors, and make it a darker region of space. SIG: FULL WINDOWS CLIENT 1.9gig
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Cors CCP is supposedly in the process of redoing the "skybox" so that the backgrounds will look like a REAL location in space. So totally pitch black? No, I know what you mean.. and it's going to be awesome but it's not going to be 'realistic'. But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:16:00 - [6] It's because we are at the fart end of the universe? -------- Ideas for: Mining
Beckoner Venhatha	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:17:00 - [7] The color thing is (i.e. not black) is false color overlay added by the pod's imaging system... to make us feel all warm and cozy
Avaan Eclipse Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:37:00 - [8] Originally by: Wet Ferret Originally by: Cors CCP is supposedly in the process of redoing the "skybox" so that the backgrounds will look like a REAL location in space. So totally pitch black? No, I know what you mean.. and it's going to be awesome but it's not going to be 'realistic'. You go tell people in the southern hemisphere that space is pitch black.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:37:00 - [9] I would love if it the art team finishes the new background system early :( I would love to see what some of these nebula look like from outside them.
Mica Swanhaven	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Ouroborus777 I'm thinking your sense of perspective needs an adjustment. You know those little white pixel-sized dots on the background? Those are other solar systems. The nebulae you think are for each system is actually one giant nebula surrounding the entire Eve cluster of systems. The color of the nebula is based on the local system's star color. That last bit is not particularly realistic to me, but what do I know about stellar dynamics. sure ignoring the fact that each background has a different shape.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:46:00 - [11] What it needs is a better starfield. Less ST:TNG, more the old universal intro. The nebulae are bad, the embarrassingly bad starfield they obscure is worse. - DesuSigs
Reatu Krentor Minmatar Void Spiders Fate Weavers	Posted - 2009.03.17 12:49:00 - [12] Originally by: Wet Ferret Originally by: Cors CCP is supposedly in the process of redoing the "skybox" so that the backgrounds will look like a REAL location in space. So totally pitch black? No, I know what you mean.. and it's going to be awesome but it's not going to be 'realistic'. right... I guess you use your eyes when looking at your ship in eve, not like you use camera drones or anything that could potentially see far more then a human eye could. Stupid arguments about how space should be black while that is only when looking through human eyes and not through a camera.... -- stuff --
NeoTheo Dark Materials	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:05:00 - [13] Originally by: Cors CCP is supposedly in the process of redoing the "skybox" so that the backgrounds will look like a REAL location in space. they aint even finished the m10 effects, give them chance ;) (well they better not have, cause the nos effect is crap, and a bunch of terret effects are down right awful). (not to mention small electron blasters dont show up on my ship.... :/) /theo
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:09:00 - [14] …I just want the sensor booster effects to be a bit more pronounced. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Monkey Saturday Fear Inc	Posted - 2009.03.17 13:13:00 - [15] Meh, if your star cluster was close to an interstellar nebula or nebulae then yeah, every star would have a nice view of it. Those things are hundreds, if not thousands, of lightyears big. And, on a less technical note, its purdy to look at. --------
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.19 14:46:00 - [16] Edited by: Razin on 19/03/2009 14:46:59 Originally by: Cors CCP is supposedly in the process of redoing the "skybox" so that the backgrounds will look like a REAL location in space. Meaning that as you move from system to system, the starts/nebluae will change based on where they are in relation to others. This should make it more "realistic". Hopfully they'll cut down on the bright colors, and make it a darker region of space. W-space has the new "skyboxes", and they are as cloudy and bright as the old ones. Just goes to show that those of us who'd like more 'realistic' space backgrounds need to whine way more. Boobies and beer. ...
Aloriana Jacques Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:07:00 - [17] I am against removing nebulae all together or to tone them down that they become dark and lose their beauty. The colours are an integral part of the races. Amarr is gold, Galentee is that weird mix of greens, Minies are red, and Caldari are blue. If people want a more realistic approach, then the core empires would almost all be nebulae, as they're in the cluster near the centre of the galaxy, while nul-space would be much blacker as they've gotten much further from the highly populated centre. But they would still see these nebulae, on at least one side. - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:37:00 - [18] Originally by: Aloriana Jacques ...If people want a more realistic approach... IMO the people want a more tasteful and user-friendly approach. Which, in many ways, is also more realistic. ...
Korerin Mayul	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:43:00 - [19] Originally by: GAJY One thing I never understood cause the backgrounds look really mediocre and really showing their age and every system looks the same but a different colour. To me it doesn't feel immersive but everything just feels 2D and fake. the sky-box in space games has recently been the show-piece (homeworld2 among otheres). level artists, who would usually be breaking their backs making sand look sandy, dont have much do do, so they try to make space look as engaging as possible.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:51:00 - [20] Originally by: GAJY One thing I never understood cause the backgrounds look really mediocre and really showing their age and every system looks the same but a different colour. To me it doesn't feel immersive but everything just feels 2D and fake. What do you think of W-space backgrounds then? They're supposed to all look a bit more like that at some point. if you disagree with me then you should probably post a response and stop reading my signature.
Ginako	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:52:00 - [21] Originally by: Avaan Eclipse Originally by: Wet Ferret Originally by: Cors CCP is supposedly in the process of redoing the "skybox" so that the backgrounds will look like a REAL location in space. So totally pitch black? No, I know what you mean.. and it's going to be awesome but it's not going to be 'realistic'. You go tell people in the southern hemisphere that space is pitch black. Thats real perty -------------- Flying Minmatar is like strapping yourself to an office chair and firing Uzi's as you roll down a flight of stairs!
Micheal Dietrich Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:53:00 - [22] As long as they remove the systems that can light up my room and burn an image into my retina at the same time then I'm cool with whatever. It really sucks when you gotta pan away from a fight just so you can see.
Nessaden Minmatar The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple	Posted - 2009.03.19 15:56:00 - [23] I'd like it if there were some systems between in the empires and out in null sec that are mostly black with nebulas in the distance.
Drunk Driver Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.03.19 16:01:00 - [24] Every system in Eve has a nebula because of giant space farts.
SadisticSavior Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.19 16:08:00 - [25] Quote: One thing I never understood cause the backgrounds look really mediocre and really showing their age and every system looks the same but a different colour. To me it doesn't feel immersive but everything just feels 2D and fake. Ditto. With all the clouds and crap I feel like I can just climb out of my ship an walk around. But CCP has already addressed this issue . Their response was along the lines of "tough ****. Nebulas are staying. Get used to it". I think I remember a CCP person talking about how eventually, all the stuff in the sky will be consistent with the rest of the EVE universe (meaning that nebulas will have specific positions in the universe, and solar system backgrounds will be unique to each system, reflecting these nebulas realistically). I think in the same post though she also said that this wasnt a priority, and something that was on the back burner. But still, if they did that, it'd be awesome. (Reunification is Coming)
Louis deGuerre Gallente Public Funded War Targets	Posted - 2009.03.19 16:13:00 - [26] Psychology experts agree that black space is too depressing.
Ginako	Posted - 2009.03.19 16:16:00 - [27] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Psychology experts agree that black space is too depressing. I read a psychology article one time that explained how the color of your room greatly effects your mental stability. Yellow was the worse and can drive the resident crazy over time. So what happens to pilots whose home system are the Bright Yellow ones??? -------------- Flying Minmatar is like strapping yourself to an office chair and firing Uzi's as you roll down a flight of stairs!
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.03.19 16:17:00 - [28] I don't care if it's not realistic, it's pretty I hope they make them more pretty tho - Contagious -
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.03.19 16:17:00 - [29] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/03/2009 16:19:15 Originally by: Aloriana Jacques ...If people want a more realistic approach... EVE Online - The Realism Edition! Undock. [You are unable to undock, all preparations are not done.] Unlock docking clamps. [The security router is not shut down.] Shut down security router. [Scotty the docking manager is trying to unlock the docking clamps, please wait a few minutes.] ... [Unknown command.] Shut down security router. [You need to start the ship electronics.] Begin start up sequence. [Your ship capacitor is not powered up.] Power up capacitor. [Your pod is not connected to the ship.] Connect pod relays. [Your pod is not inside the ship.] ..... [Unknown command] Begin boarding sequence of POD. [POD boarding sequence initialized] Finally... [Aborting POD boarding sequence, starting final ship preparation] Aa! No, abort final ship preparation! [Aborting final ship preparation] Begin boarding sequence of POD. [Your POD is still being moved out of your ship] Begin boarding sequence of POD. [POD boarding sequence initialized] Connect POD relays. [POD connected to ship] Power up capacitor. [Capacitor powering up] Begin start up sequence. [Ship electronics starting up] Shut down security router. [Security router shutting down] Unlock docking clamps. [Docking clamps unlocked] Fire up engines, 10%. [Engine thrust set to 10%] ...wait!!! [Your ship is taking damage] Open bay doors! [You can not undock as you've engaged in hostile activities] Stop ship! [Your ship is taking damage] Set engine power to 0% [Power routing system is damaged, power can not be routed out of engines] Begin rep-- [Your ship is out of control] Enter P-- [Your ship begins to explode] Initiate clone ju-- [You have died] Re-activate clone. [No known clone active] Quit game. [I can't let you do that Dave] .... My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Ginako	Posted - 2009.03.19 16:19:00 - [30] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 19/03/2009 16:18:55 Originally by: Aloriana Jacques ...If people want a more realistic approach... EVE Online - The Realism Edition! Undock. [You are unable to undock, all preparations are not done.] Unlock docking clamps. [The security router is not shut down.] Shut down security router. [Scotty the docking managed is trying to unlock the docking clamps, please wait a few minutes.] ... [Unknown command.] Shut down security router. [You need to start the ship electronics.] Begin start up sequence. [Your ship capacitor is not powered up.] Power up capacitor. [Your pod is not connected to the ship.] Connect pod relays. [Your pod is not inside the ship.] ..... [Unknown command] Begin boarding sequence of POD. [POD boarding sequence initialized] Finally... [Aborting POD boarding sequence, starting final ship preparation] Aa! No, abort final ship preparation! [Aborting final ship preparation] Begin boarding sequence of POD. [Your POD is still being moved out of your ship] Begin boarding sequence of POD. [POD boarding sequence initialized] Connect POD relays. [POD connected to ship] Power up capacitor. [Capacitor powering up] Begin start up sequence. [Ship electronics starting up] Shut down security router. [Security router shutting down] Unlock docking clamps. [Docking clamps unlocked] Fire up engines, 10%. [Engine thrust set to 10%] ...wait!!! [Your ship is taking damage] Open bay doors! [You can not undock as you've engaged in hostile activities] Stop ship! [Your ship is taking damage] Set engine power to 0% [Power routing system is damaged, power can not be routed out of engines] Begin rep-- [Your ship is out of control] Enter P-- [Your ship begins to explode] Initiate clone ju-- [You have died] Re-activate clone. [No known clone active] Quit game. [I can't let you do that Dave] .... You should stop using Windows for your Ship Computer -------------- Flying Minmatar is like strapping yourself to an office chair and firing Uzi's as you roll down a flight of stairs!

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