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Khyan
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:06:00 -
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a long time to train? well, they are called 'specialization' skills
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Khyan
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:06:00 -
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a long time to train? well, they are called 'specialization' skills
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GlimmerMan
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:27:00 -
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Anyone know what the base cost of these skills were? It looks to me like some scum have bought them all and inflated the price trying to rip us off and make money for nothing like lazy bastards.
(Large Beam Specs are ~9 Mill, Large Arty Specs are about ~12 Mill, suggesting these are not stock prices since they would be the same)
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GlimmerMan
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:27:00 -
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Anyone know what the base cost of these skills were? It looks to me like some scum have bought them all and inflated the price trying to rip us off and make money for nothing like lazy bastards.
(Large Beam Specs are ~9 Mill, Large Arty Specs are about ~12 Mill, suggesting these are not stock prices since they would be the same)
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:30:00 -
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 Originally by: Orestes
Wait for boosters, advanced learning skills, the like.
Before or after the 'soft-cap' 
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Orestes
Wait for boosters, advanced learning skills, the like.
Before or after the 'soft-cap'
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Lord Kronos
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:46:00 -
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If today would have been 1st of april i would have understood that this is a good joke from ccp (5 months of training for a bonus of 10%), but since is not the case i'm just shocked at the ignorance of some ppl hwo can say "wait for the adv learning skills".
In my opinion those skills should have been released after all the balancing of turets and ships cos otherwise if u would start training for a weapon specialisation and ended up like the tempest today u would have lost 5 months of ur time just for scoring a little better shots at stations.
We can't specialise in some weapon due to the curent speed of TomB's nerfing bat; but is just my opinion and if some1 else wants to specialise in some weapon and after 4 months to be nerfed by TomB is wellcomed to do so.
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Lord Kronos
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:46:00 -
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If today would have been 1st of april i would have understood that this is a good joke from ccp (5 months of training for a bonus of 10%), but since is not the case i'm just shocked at the ignorance of some ppl hwo can say "wait for the adv learning skills".
In my opinion those skills should have been released after all the balancing of turets and ships cos otherwise if u would start training for a weapon specialisation and ended up like the tempest today u would have lost 5 months of ur time just for scoring a little better shots at stations.
We can't specialise in some weapon due to the curent speed of TomB's nerfing bat; but is just my opinion and if some1 else wants to specialise in some weapon and after 4 months to be nerfed by TomB is wellcomed to do so.
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:47:00 -
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My days as a skill collector just got a lot more interesting. Sitting at 152 at the moment...and I've now got a LOT of BIG prereqs to train. 
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Tripoli
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:47:00 -
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My days as a skill collector just got a lot more interesting. Sitting at 152 at the moment...and I've now got a LOT of BIG prereqs to train.
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Zipoldy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Zipoldy on 17/08/2004 19:00:43
Is CCP insane ?? (must be)
I not a n00b but even with the skills I have it
will take 60-80 days to get to L-Projectiles Spec. skill to even start to train it...
Then there is a different setup for the Auto Cannons...
I'm minmatar and I like it but with the nerf to projectiles tracking/hitting....
I don't think many will spec. Good for those that do...
In short CCP has gone for a extreme again... like they seem to do everytime....
Zipoldy
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Zipoldy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Zipoldy on 17/08/2004 19:00:43
Is CCP insane ?? (must be)
I not a n00b but even with the skills I have it
will take 60-80 days to get to L-Projectiles Spec. skill to even start to train it...
Then there is a different setup for the Auto Cannons...
I'm minmatar and I like it but with the nerf to projectiles tracking/hitting....
I don't think many will spec. Good for those that do...
In short CCP has gone for a extreme again... like they seem to do everytime....
Zipoldy
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 17/08/2004 19:01:19
This is wat eve needs exactly, means ther will be a huge gulf between people who pvp as a job and obviously will b going at it full tilt to learn skills that give u such a heavy dmg bonus, and people who work in industry and give a little time to train gunnery.
I for one am going straight for these new skills asap
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Neon Genesis
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Posted - 2004.08.17 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 17/08/2004 19:01:19
This is wat eve needs exactly, means ther will be a huge gulf between people who pvp as a job and obviously will b going at it full tilt to learn skills that give u such a heavy dmg bonus, and people who work in industry and give a little time to train gunnery.
I for one am going straight for these new skills asap
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There, i just contributed nothing to your thread
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Lord Kronos
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 17/08/2004 19:01:19
This is wat eve needs exactly, means ther will be a huge gulf between people who pvp as a job and obviously will b going at it full tilt to learn skills that give u such a heavy dmg bonus, and people who work in industry and give a little time to train gunnery.
I for one am going straight for these new skills asap
I agree with u that we need to separate the industrials from the fighters but first we had to be sure that the gun that hits today will still hit after 4 months
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Lord Kronos
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Neon Genesis on 17/08/2004 19:01:19
This is wat eve needs exactly, means ther will be a huge gulf between people who pvp as a job and obviously will b going at it full tilt to learn skills that give u such a heavy dmg bonus, and people who work in industry and give a little time to train gunnery.
I for one am going straight for these new skills asap
I agree with u that we need to separate the industrials from the fighters but first we had to be sure that the gun that hits today will still hit after 4 months
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Zipoldy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:32:00 -
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True Kronos after 2-3 months of training and the Bat hits you it won't be fun....
Zipoldy
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Zipoldy
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Posted - 2004.08.17 19:32:00 -
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True Kronos after 2-3 months of training and the Bat hits you it won't be fun....
Zipoldy
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tripoli
My days as a skill collector just got a lot more interesting. Sitting at 152 at the moment...and I've now got a LOT of BIG prereqs to train.
Heh, as another skill-collector I feel your pain. Wanna come drink to our sorrows? I'll bring the beer 
My thoughts: I think it's great that the new skills are in and take a rediculous amount of time to train. I also think it's great that they cost an absolute fortune to buy (base market cost is 1mil for small, 3mil for med, 9mil for large = 26mil for one type of guns). These skills are not meant for everyone. They are what they are called, Specialisations. If you don't want to train them, don't. If you do, well, now you have the next few months of skill training covered.
If you think you will be left out of the uber-wtfpwnd-mega-gank-a-ramaÖ that is Tech2 guns, then train them. If you don't see the advantage in those weapons, don't. It's all a matter of choice. Me, I choose to spend a reiculous amount of isk and time training skills because that's what I do.
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"Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!"
Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI
I have a blog
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tripoli
My days as a skill collector just got a lot more interesting. Sitting at 152 at the moment...and I've now got a LOT of BIG prereqs to train.
Heh, as another skill-collector I feel your pain. Wanna come drink to our sorrows? I'll bring the beer
My thoughts: I think it's great that the new skills are in and take a rediculous amount of time to train. I also think it's great that they cost an absolute fortune to buy (base market cost is 1mil for small, 3mil for med, 9mil for large = 26mil for one type of guns). These skills are not meant for everyone. They are what they are called, Specialisations. If you don't want to train them, don't. If you do, well, now you have the next few months of skill training covered.
If you think you will be left out of the uber-wtfpwnd-mega-gank-a-ramaÖ that is Tech2 guns, then train them. If you don't see the advantage in those weapons, don't. It's all a matter of choice. Me, I choose to spend a reiculous amount of isk and time training skills because that's what I do.
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"Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!"
Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI
I have a blog
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:30:00 -
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Well it's looking like we'll have to learn to specialize. I mean most of us can get a good handle on all of the Tech 1 skills but you'll have to be wiser and pick the Tech 2 skills that'll benefit your playing style the most.
I think it's wise to have it this way - if we are forced to specialize we'll never quite know where our opponents abilities lie (hopefully) and that could lead to some interesting PvP engagements.
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Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:30:00 -
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Well it's looking like we'll have to learn to specialize. I mean most of us can get a good handle on all of the Tech 1 skills but you'll have to be wiser and pick the Tech 2 skills that'll benefit your playing style the most.
I think it's wise to have it this way - if we are forced to specialize we'll never quite know where our opponents abilities lie (hopefully) and that could lead to some interesting PvP engagements.
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SM60
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:21:00 -
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Quick question and maybe off topic, but does the spec. skills affect dmg that t1 turrets deal or just t2?
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SM60
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:21:00 -
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Quick question and maybe off topic, but does the spec. skills affect dmg that t1 turrets deal or just t2?
-The end time has begun
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:26:00 -
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the skills effect weapons that require these skills to use them i.e tech 2 weapons. Tech 1 weapons don't require these skills, so they don't effect them.
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"Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!"
Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI
I have a blog
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:26:00 -
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the skills effect weapons that require these skills to use them i.e tech 2 weapons. Tech 1 weapons don't require these skills, so they don't effect them.
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"Remember people: Omber is the biggest evil ever created, DO NOT let it get to you!"
Waagaa Ktlehr, BDCI
I have a blog
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.08.18 05:11:00 -
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OMG YES!! Thank you Devs!!
Been sitting on around 6 mil gunnery skills for about 4 months now. Yay for more gunnery skills.
\o/
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PaulAtreides
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Posted - 2004.08.18 05:11:00 -
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OMG YES!! Thank you Devs!!
Been sitting on around 6 mil gunnery skills for about 4 months now. Yay for more gunnery skills.
\o/
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Fikia
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Posted - 2004.08.18 06:57:00 -
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I just want more missle skills :b Forget the gunnery skills.. Well, I'll probably do one of the hybrid types, not sure of blasters or rails though.. but I'm mostly into missles of all sizes and types and want more skills in them :/
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Fikia
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Posted - 2004.08.18 06:57:00 -
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I just want more missle skills :b Forget the gunnery skills.. Well, I'll probably do one of the hybrid types, not sure of blasters or rails though.. but I'm mostly into missles of all sizes and types and want more skills in them :/
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