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Forluhn Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.03.17 23:47:00 - [1] I am thinking of getting the new neural remapping thingy done to my character and i was wondering what's the most efficient distribution of Primary/Secondary for the fastest training times. aka is it 2 Perception for every 1 willpower or what? All your base are belong to Amarr
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.17 23:48:00 - [2] depends on what your training for and what your plans are.
Forluhn Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.03.17 23:51:00 - [3] I'll be training in mostly military and where Perception is the main attribute. All your base are belong to Amarr
Quantar Raalsken Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.17 23:51:00 - [4] most balanced is divide everything equally and if u are one short then give charisma the shaft
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.17 23:51:00 - [5] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 17/03/2009 23:54:42 I use 8, 8, 7, 8, 8 because im too lazy to only train certain type skills for a year and other types for the year after that. Before the respec my attributes where mostly on perception and willpower and i this sucked utter balls. So considering you can only switch once a year the most efficient tactic is probably a balanced layout, unless you know you'll only be training skills that all use the same 2 attributes for an entire year, but to be honest this seems highly unlikely --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation]
Quantar Raalsken Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.17 23:53:00 - [6] Originally by: Forluhn I'll be training in mostly military and where Perception is the main attribute. i still say to go balanced cause u prob wont be training more than a year of that, plus engineering and electronics skills are good too
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.17 23:53:00 - [7] aye an even spread is the most efficient if you plan on training everything if your gonna go mostly gunnery and spaceship command go perc/will
CrestoftheStars Caldari Recreation Of The World	Posted - 2009.03.18 00:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Quantar Raalsken Originally by: Forluhn I'll be training in mostly military and where Perception is the main attribute. i still say to go balanced cause u prob wont be training more than a year of that, plus engineering and electronics skills are good too if your new, go balanced (except charisme, non in that), if it is old and you will only train those skills, go max perc and rest will ___________________________________________ Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded
Admiral Dreadnaught	Posted - 2009.03.18 00:55:00 - [9] A mate of mine made this tool which gives you an idea of learning speeds for each category.
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.03.18 01:02:00 - [10] I put 13 in perception, 11 in intelligence, and kept the base 5 for the rest. ---
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.18 01:04:00 - [11] Originally by: CrestoftheStars Originally by: Quantar Raalsken Originally by: Forluhn I'll be training in mostly military and where Perception is the main attribute. i still say to go balanced cause u prob wont be training more than a year of that, plus engineering and electronics skills are good too if your new, go balanced (except charisme, non in that), if it is old and you will only train those skills, go max perc and rest will What if you want to train ****loads of corp management social and leadership skills?
mechtech Entropy Industries	Posted - 2009.03.18 01:06:00 - [12] Intelligence and Perception are the most valuable attributes in eve. If you're going PURE PvP, train up Willpower to the same level as intelligence, but leave perception higher than the rest (considering you don't have a pure R&D character). So if you're an all rounder like me, bring up intelligence and perception and keep everything else at minimum. If you're PvP oriented, bring perception high, and also put equal points into intelligence and willpower. Keep memory/cha at minimum.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.18 01:08:00 - [13] Originally by: mechtech Intelligence and Perception are the most valuable attributes in eve. If you're going PURE PvP, train up Willpower to the same level as intelligence, but leave perception higher than the rest (considering you don't have a pure R&D character). So if you're an all rounder like me, bring up intelligence and perception and keep everything else at minimum. If you're PvP oriented, bring perception high, and also put equal points into intelligence and willpower. Keep memory/cha at minimum. What if your a mission running gang boosting ceo?
Sleazy Cabbie	Posted - 2009.03.18 03:05:00 - [14] I:9 P:9 W:8 C:5 M:8 Answer's the same. Give charisma the shaft.
Draku Rykenen Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.03.18 05:41:00 - [15] Yea, I went nearly flat other than charisma. mem 9 perc 9 int 8 will 8 chr 5 This way you not uber at a certain class of skills, but you are good just about everything the typical pvp'er needs to train. I just couldn't stand the idea of being pigeon holed into a certain direction for a year. Quite frankly, if you DON'T spend the vast majority of your time restricting yourself to your chosen side of the street the benefits of the super stats are canceled by the slow times of the gimpy stats.
Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2009.03.18 08:25:00 - [16] Being nearly 6 I have the luxury of being able to concentrate my training on one attribute for a year. I decided to go for ENG ELEC MECH IND and SCI , so all went on INT , what was left went on MEM It all depends on your requirements p.s. my Charisma sucks big time now (Leadership skill section is nearly maxed so no problem) ====================
Aubrey Luna The Hunt	Posted - 2009.03.18 08:28:00 - [17] Originally by: Admiral Dreadnaught A mate of mine made this tool which gives you an idea of learning speeds for each category. Excellant tool! I have quite high int 25, 13 cha, 18 per, 18 mem, 16 will Quite rubbish for combat, but initially I wanted mining, indy. I have 1.4mil sp in electronics and 2.9mil in engineering..... ..Think I'll respec my attribs to more perc/will as pvp skills are next...
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.03.18 08:29:00 - [18] If you're a round robin trainer, balance everything, then set charisma 2 below the rest and stick those two points to your "main path". Like example perception/willpower if you train ships and guns mostly. The reason for this is that you can always get cheaper charisma implants. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
TimMc Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.18 08:54:00 - [19] I am going to finish all of my long memory/intel skills and then spec towards Percep/Will. I found the best was 15 max base Perception, and rest to willpower to make base 9. If you had alot of t2 skills like HAC 5, then probably more willpower would help.
Dian Loas	Posted - 2009.03.18 11:50:00 - [20] Load up you next years worth of skills in evemon go to the implant calculator and add and subtract skill points. the one that gives you the best time is what you want to go with.
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.03.18 11:54:00 - [21] Yes, what is the best thing. I tried to duplicate the level of vagueness with my post, not sure if I succeeded. ------------------------ Please do not discuss moderation in your sig - Mitnal
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Proxenetae Invicti	Posted - 2009.03.18 12:00:00 - [22] Originally by: Dian Loas Load up you next years worth of skills in evemon go to the implant calculator and add and subtract skill points. the one that gives you the best time is what you want to go with. It should be fairly easy to setup EveMon to do that calculation for you... Hmmm... -- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work.
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.18 15:21:00 - [23] Originally by: J'Mkarr Soban Edited by: J''Mkarr Soban on 18/03/2009 12:08:32 Originally by: Dian Loas Load up you next years worth of skills in evemon go to the implant calculator and add and subtract skill points. the one that gives you the best time is what you want to go with. It should be fairly easy to setup EveMon to do that calculation for you... Hmmm... That calc isn't very good! My sheet says I've got 12 points from skills. And my Charisma is 3 - apparently the minimum is 5 now? :-O When you respec, minimal amount of points in a attribute is 5...
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Proxenetae Invicti	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:18:00 - [24] Originally by: Gariuys When you respec, minimal amount of points in a attribute is 5... Bugger. So I either don't respec, or I do an lose 2 points overall. Hmmm... -- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:44:00 - [25] Edited by: Eventy One on 18/03/2009 16:44:14 What ever you do .. don't listen to the people who say: "PUT ALL EXTRA ATTRIBUTES INTO CHARISMA!!!!!!"
Alora Venoda GalTech Whiskey Creek Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Dian Loas Load up you next years worth of skills in evemon go to the implant calculator and add and subtract skill points. the one that gives you the best time is what you want to go with. i did that and it seems like i should put 19 into perception and 5 in everything else... so i'm gonna finish off most of my planned non-perception skills before remapping. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless. Take away the flying around part and you make EVE into a space themed spreadsheet application.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:48:00 - [27] I went for: int: 6 (22) per: 15 (33) cha: 5 (21) wil: 7 (22) mem: 6 (22) - Contagious -
Lord Windu Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:49:00 - [28] Originally by: Eventy One Edited by: Eventy One on 18/03/2009 16:44:14 What ever you do .. don't listen to the people who say: "PUT ALL EXTRA ATTRIBUTES INTO CHARISMA!!!!!!" Yeah, because what you really want to do is put MOST attributes into charisma and some into intelligence, but not all.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:50:00 - [29] Originally by: Lord Windu Originally by: Eventy One Edited by: Eventy One on 18/03/2009 16:44:14 What ever you do .. don't listen to the people who say: "PUT ALL EXTRA ATTRIBUTES INTO CHARISMA!!!!!!" Yeah, because what you really want to do is put MOST attributes into charisma and some into intelligence, but not all. Not only, but you'll find everyone wants to be your friend, even if training useful skills slows to a halt.

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