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Jake Grant
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:09:00 -
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His player name is William Dampier and he is a member of V I R I I corp based in the Lonetrek region Nourvukaiken solar system. PLease be aware of this individual as he is asking where people are mining on the local channel and then stealing thier ore. IMO he is a low down sneeky **** who needs to learn some manners. So all you honourable players out there take not and avoid talking to this individual.
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Jake Grant
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:09:00 -
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His player name is William Dampier and he is a member of V I R I I corp based in the Lonetrek region Nourvukaiken solar system. PLease be aware of this individual as he is asking where people are mining on the local channel and then stealing thier ore. IMO he is a low down sneeky **** who needs to learn some manners. So all you honourable players out there take not and avoid talking to this individual.
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:38:00 -
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And using secure cans has never crossed your mind? 
Why don't you join/form your own corp and declare war on his corp if it bothers you so much? _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:38:00 -
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And using secure cans has never crossed your mind? 
Why don't you join/form your own corp and declare war on his corp if it bothers you so much? _______________________________________________ Eris Discordia: On the scale of funny and constructive it scores low, real low. |

Tenaj
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:48:00 -
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Well, I just hope someone catches him. That sort of thing is low. I wish CCP would do something about these damn ore thieves
Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
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Tenaj
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:48:00 -
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Well, I just hope someone catches him. That sort of thing is low. I wish CCP would do something about these damn ore thieves
Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
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Drewdatrip
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Darrin Tobruk And using secure cans has never crossed your mind? 
Why don't you join/form your own corp and declare war on his corp if it bothers you so much?
Well depending on where hes mining, IE 1.0 anchoring a secure can is no longer an option....so ore theiving can still occur no matter what your precations are as a new player
|Drew| ------------------- The Professional
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Drewdatrip
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Darrin Tobruk And using secure cans has never crossed your mind? 
Why don't you join/form your own corp and declare war on his corp if it bothers you so much?
Well depending on where hes mining, IE 1.0 anchoring a secure can is no longer an option....so ore theiving can still occur no matter what your precations are as a new player
|Drew| ------------------- The Professional
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xAoC2
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:25:00 -
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get a few pilots in kessies and go on a suicide run after him, it'll be worth it to see him go down in flames at least once. you might even get to pod him. ................................
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xAoC2
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:25:00 -
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get a few pilots in kessies and go on a suicide run after him, it'll be worth it to see him go down in flames at least once. you might even get to pod him. ................................
TEH PWNZOR |

Skelator
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:30:00 -
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Repeat after me Class.
Jetcanning = RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Skelator
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:30:00 -
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Repeat after me Class.
Jetcanning = RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD

They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |

Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Reebo77 on 18/08/2004 01:40:05 Im based in nour, give me the cash for a new caracal and ill pop him for you 
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Reebo77 on 18/08/2004 01:40:05 Im based in nour, give me the cash for a new caracal and ill pop him for you 
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: BlackKnight on 18/08/2004 01:43:45
Quote: Well, I just hope someone catches him. That sort of thing is low. I wish CCP would do something about these damn ore thieves
LOL....ur evil 
nice sig btw....very original Servent of The Scordite Gods |

BlackKnight
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: BlackKnight on 18/08/2004 01:43:45
Quote: Well, I just hope someone catches him. That sort of thing is low. I wish CCP would do something about these damn ore thieves
LOL....ur evil 
nice sig btw....very original Servent of The Scordite Gods |

Armaki Kalear
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:27:00 -
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There is no such thing as an ore thief. -- Top 5 corporation improvements as requested by CEOÆs |

Armaki Kalear
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:27:00 -
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There is no such thing as an ore thief. -- Top 5 corporation improvements as requested by CEOÆs |

Pseth
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:54:00 -
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Yep, ore thieves are the scum of EVE. It's downright exploiting if you ask me. It's about time CCP did something about it. Adding criminal flagging to someone removing ore from a can should be easy enough.
Yeah, miners could use secure containers but you have to remember that CCP nerfed the anchoring of them in 0.8->1.0 space which is where most of the ore thieving takes place because this is where the larger density of miners are. Good one CCP.  If CCP give us much larger sized secure cans then I'm sure loads more miners would use them. At the moment if everyone switched to secure cans the market prices would shoot up which no-one wants to see. Not to mention that most people use alts and trial characters to steal ore so going to 'war' is impossible and I would assume that a good majority of them are hiding behind law abiding characters. It all smacks off an exploit. Add criminal flagging and make them work for their money like everyone else. If someone comes up to me in a raven and steals my ore I aint arguing with him. 
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Pseth
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:54:00 -
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Yep, ore thieves are the scum of EVE. It's downright exploiting if you ask me. It's about time CCP did something about it. Adding criminal flagging to someone removing ore from a can should be easy enough.
Yeah, miners could use secure containers but you have to remember that CCP nerfed the anchoring of them in 0.8->1.0 space which is where most of the ore thieving takes place because this is where the larger density of miners are. Good one CCP.  If CCP give us much larger sized secure cans then I'm sure loads more miners would use them. At the moment if everyone switched to secure cans the market prices would shoot up which no-one wants to see. Not to mention that most people use alts and trial characters to steal ore so going to 'war' is impossible and I would assume that a good majority of them are hiding behind law abiding characters. It all smacks off an exploit. Add criminal flagging and make them work for their money like everyone else. If someone comes up to me in a raven and steals my ore I aint arguing with him. 
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pseth Yep, ore thieves are the scum of EVE. It's downright exploiting if you ask me. It's about time CCP did something about it. Adding criminal flagging to someone removing ore from a can should be easy enough.
Yeah, miners could use secure containers but you have to remember that CCP nerfed the anchoring of them in 0.8->1.0 space which is where most of the ore thieving takes place because this is where the larger density of miners are. Good one CCP.  If CCP give us much larger sized secure cans then I'm sure loads more miners would use them. At the moment if everyone switched to secure cans the market prices would shoot up which no-one wants to see. Not to mention that most people use alts and trial characters to steal ore so going to 'war' is impossible and I would assume that a good majority of them are hiding behind law abiding characters. It all smacks off an exploit. Add criminal flagging and make them work for their money like everyone else. If someone comes up to me in a raven and steals my ore I aint arguing with him. 
I wouldn't call the ore thieves the exploiters .
Besides, CCP made it so you can't secure cans in .8 and higher space for a reason! You know, space where NPC rats don't spawn in belts. Where certain unskilled players can learn the basics. If you can't take the hint, then I don't know what to do anymore. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

MooKids
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pseth Yep, ore thieves are the scum of EVE. It's downright exploiting if you ask me. It's about time CCP did something about it. Adding criminal flagging to someone removing ore from a can should be easy enough.
Yeah, miners could use secure containers but you have to remember that CCP nerfed the anchoring of them in 0.8->1.0 space which is where most of the ore thieving takes place because this is where the larger density of miners are. Good one CCP.  If CCP give us much larger sized secure cans then I'm sure loads more miners would use them. At the moment if everyone switched to secure cans the market prices would shoot up which no-one wants to see. Not to mention that most people use alts and trial characters to steal ore so going to 'war' is impossible and I would assume that a good majority of them are hiding behind law abiding characters. It all smacks off an exploit. Add criminal flagging and make them work for their money like everyone else. If someone comes up to me in a raven and steals my ore I aint arguing with him. 
I wouldn't call the ore thieves the exploiters .
Besides, CCP made it so you can't secure cans in .8 and higher space for a reason! You know, space where NPC rats don't spawn in belts. Where certain unskilled players can learn the basics. If you can't take the hint, then I don't know what to do anymore. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Grant His player name is William Dampier and he is a member of V I R I I corp based in the Lonetrek region Nourvukaiken solar system. PLease be aware of this individual as he is asking where people are mining on the local channel and then stealing thier ore. IMO he is a low down sneeky **** who needs to learn some manners. So all you honourable players out there take not and avoid talking to this individual.
Well my solution to ore-thiefs are quite simple... if you have 2 accounts why don't you start a war with the character you are best with (best skills fighting) and let your second account lure the thief into the trap..... that way when the ore-thief shows up trying to steal your ore, you warp in with your fighter and blow him sky-high....
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Grant His player name is William Dampier and he is a member of V I R I I corp based in the Lonetrek region Nourvukaiken solar system. PLease be aware of this individual as he is asking where people are mining on the local channel and then stealing thier ore. IMO he is a low down sneeky **** who needs to learn some manners. So all you honourable players out there take not and avoid talking to this individual.
Well my solution to ore-thiefs are quite simple... if you have 2 accounts why don't you start a war with the character you are best with (best skills fighting) and let your second account lure the thief into the trap..... that way when the ore-thief shows up trying to steal your ore, you warp in with your fighter and blow him sky-high....
---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. 13:11 |

Pseth
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids I wouldn't call the ore thieves the exploiters .
Besides, CCP made it so you can't secure cans in .8 and higher space for a reason! You know, space where NPC rats don't spawn in belts. Where certain unskilled players can learn the basics. If you can't take the hint, then I don't know what to do anymore.
They exploit for the reasons given. Alt characters, law-abiding players can't retaliate, they transfer funds to main character. etc, etc. As for 'exploiting' jet cans. At least everyone has the ability to do it so no one player gets an advantage nor does it actually hurt anyone else. You give miners secure cans as big or bigger than jet cans and they'll start to use them. Like I said, jet cans help keep the mineral prices lower for obvious reasons, this benefits all.
CCP *thought* in their infinfite wisdom they were helping unskilled/new players by nerfing anchoring when they in fact did the opposite. Most mega-corps will be mining straight into haulers on corp mining sessions so they aren't at a great risk. Plus, with larger ships they can quickly recoup their losses if some scum ore thief nicks 10 minutes worth of ore. On the other hand the new guy who can't afford secure cans nor can he use them, even if he could afford them, without going into more dangerous territory. For that he needs to go into npc territory so could do with some drone skills or lose miner turrets in place of weapons which usually requires even more skills to train, we've all been there.  Again, more experienced players don't bat an eyelid when mining in 0.5->0.8 space and why use secure cans anyway there when most of the ore thieves are in 1.0 and 0.9 stealing from the new guys cans. Plus, who do you think it hurts more? The veteran miner who can replenish his stolen ore with his apoc in 10 minutes or the new guy who has just had about an hour of frigate mining ruined? Please explain again how CCP helped the unexperienced players. I know if I was expected to mine in my first two weeks going back and forth from a local station everytime my hold filled CCP wouldn't have had the pleasure of a subscription fee. Regardless, CCP will realise their mistake and many others as the player count starts to slowly decrease and even the mighty shiva won't stop that.
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Pseth
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids I wouldn't call the ore thieves the exploiters .
Besides, CCP made it so you can't secure cans in .8 and higher space for a reason! You know, space where NPC rats don't spawn in belts. Where certain unskilled players can learn the basics. If you can't take the hint, then I don't know what to do anymore.
They exploit for the reasons given. Alt characters, law-abiding players can't retaliate, they transfer funds to main character. etc, etc. As for 'exploiting' jet cans. At least everyone has the ability to do it so no one player gets an advantage nor does it actually hurt anyone else. You give miners secure cans as big or bigger than jet cans and they'll start to use them. Like I said, jet cans help keep the mineral prices lower for obvious reasons, this benefits all.
CCP *thought* in their infinfite wisdom they were helping unskilled/new players by nerfing anchoring when they in fact did the opposite. Most mega-corps will be mining straight into haulers on corp mining sessions so they aren't at a great risk. Plus, with larger ships they can quickly recoup their losses if some scum ore thief nicks 10 minutes worth of ore. On the other hand the new guy who can't afford secure cans nor can he use them, even if he could afford them, without going into more dangerous territory. For that he needs to go into npc territory so could do with some drone skills or lose miner turrets in place of weapons which usually requires even more skills to train, we've all been there.  Again, more experienced players don't bat an eyelid when mining in 0.5->0.8 space and why use secure cans anyway there when most of the ore thieves are in 1.0 and 0.9 stealing from the new guys cans. Plus, who do you think it hurts more? The veteran miner who can replenish his stolen ore with his apoc in 10 minutes or the new guy who has just had about an hour of frigate mining ruined? Please explain again how CCP helped the unexperienced players. I know if I was expected to mine in my first two weeks going back and forth from a local station everytime my hold filled CCP wouldn't have had the pleasure of a subscription fee. Regardless, CCP will realise their mistake and many others as the player count starts to slowly decrease and even the mighty shiva won't stop that.
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:36:00 -
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Give miners bigger secure cans... give pirates bigger guns?
The secure cans were designed at a size which CCP thought was reasonable to mine with.
If you want to mine into jettisoned cans then you have to be prepared to comprimise a little and the comprimise is that the jettisoned cans are open to anyone.
People keep whining about wanting bigger secure cans, how bout u just stfu and use the cans that are there now and if you get robbed by an ore thief then just admit that its your own bloody fault instead of whining like a kid.
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:36:00 -
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Give miners bigger secure cans... give pirates bigger guns?
The secure cans were designed at a size which CCP thought was reasonable to mine with.
If you want to mine into jettisoned cans then you have to be prepared to comprimise a little and the comprimise is that the jettisoned cans are open to anyone.
People keep whining about wanting bigger secure cans, how bout u just stfu and use the cans that are there now and if you get robbed by an ore thief then just admit that its your own bloody fault instead of whining like a kid.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:54:00 -
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There is nothing to steal. The can has been jetted.
I clean up ore from jetted cans. Its a simple way to make quick cash. If you want to keep your ore, get a secure can.

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Miso
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:54:00 -
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There is nothing to steal. The can has been jetted.
I clean up ore from jetted cans. Its a simple way to make quick cash. If you want to keep your ore, get a secure can.

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