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Jake Grant
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:09:00 -
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His player name is William Dampier and he is a member of V I R I I corp based in the Lonetrek region Nourvukaiken solar system. PLease be aware of this individual as he is asking where people are mining on the local channel and then stealing thier ore. IMO he is a low down sneeky **** who needs to learn some manners. So all you honourable players out there take not and avoid talking to this individual.
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Jake Grant
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:09:00 -
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His player name is William Dampier and he is a member of V I R I I corp based in the Lonetrek region Nourvukaiken solar system. PLease be aware of this individual as he is asking where people are mining on the local channel and then stealing thier ore. IMO he is a low down sneeky **** who needs to learn some manners. So all you honourable players out there take not and avoid talking to this individual.
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:38:00 -
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And using secure cans has never crossed your mind? 
Why don't you join/form your own corp and declare war on his corp if it bothers you so much?
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Darrin Tobruk
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:38:00 -
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And using secure cans has never crossed your mind?
Why don't you join/form your own corp and declare war on his corp if it bothers you so much?
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Tenaj
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:48:00 -
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Well, I just hope someone catches him. That sort of thing is low. I wish CCP would do something about these damn ore thieves
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Tenaj
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Posted - 2004.08.17 22:48:00 -
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Well, I just hope someone catches him. That sort of thing is low. I wish CCP would do something about these damn ore thieves
Channel TOOKURSTUFF, serving the Criminal community.
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Drewdatrip
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Darrin Tobruk
And using secure cans has never crossed your mind?
Why don't you join/form your own corp and declare war on his corp if it bothers you so much?
Well depending on where hes mining, IE 1.0 anchoring a secure can is no longer an option....so ore theiving can still occur no matter what your precations are as a new player
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Drewdatrip
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Posted - 2004.08.17 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Darrin Tobruk
And using secure cans has never crossed your mind?
Why don't you join/form your own corp and declare war on his corp if it bothers you so much?
Well depending on where hes mining, IE 1.0 anchoring a secure can is no longer an option....so ore theiving can still occur no matter what your precations are as a new player
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xAoC2
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:25:00 -
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get a few pilots in kessies and go on a suicide run after him, it'll be worth it to see him go down in flames at least once. you might even get to pod him.
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xAoC2
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:25:00 -
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get a few pilots in kessies and go on a suicide run after him, it'll be worth it to see him go down in flames at least once. you might even get to pod him.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:30:00 -
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Repeat after me Class.
Jetcanning =
RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD
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Skelator
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:30:00 -
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Repeat after me Class.
Jetcanning =
RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD RISK -vs- REWARD
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Reebo77 on 18/08/2004 01:40:05
Im based in nour, give me the cash for a new caracal and ill pop him for you 
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Reebo77
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Reebo77 on 18/08/2004 01:40:05
Im based in nour, give me the cash for a new caracal and ill pop him for you
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: BlackKnight on 18/08/2004 01:43:45
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Well, I just hope someone catches him. That sort of thing is low. I wish CCP would do something about these damn ore thieves
LOL....ur evil 
nice sig btw....very original
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BlackKnight
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Posted - 2004.08.18 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: BlackKnight on 18/08/2004 01:43:45
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Well, I just hope someone catches him. That sort of thing is low. I wish CCP would do something about these damn ore thieves
LOL....ur evil
nice sig btw....very original
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Armaki Kalear
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:27:00 -
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There is no such thing as an ore thief.
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Armaki Kalear
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:27:00 -
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There is no such thing as an ore thief.
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Pseth
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:54:00 -
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Yep, ore thieves are the scum of EVE. It's downright exploiting if you ask me. It's about time CCP did something about it. Adding criminal flagging to someone removing ore from a can should be easy enough.
Yeah, miners could use secure containers but you have to remember that CCP nerfed the anchoring of them in 0.8->1.0 space which is where most of the ore thieving takes place because this is where the larger density of miners are. Good one CCP.
If CCP give us much larger sized secure cans then I'm sure loads more miners would use them. At the moment if everyone switched to secure cans the market prices would shoot up which no-one wants to see.
Not to mention that most people use alts and trial characters to steal ore so going to 'war' is impossible and I would assume that a good majority of them are hiding behind law abiding characters. It all smacks off an exploit. Add criminal flagging and make them work for their money like everyone else. If someone comes up to me in a raven and steals my ore I aint arguing with him. 
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Pseth
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Posted - 2004.08.18 02:54:00 -
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Yep, ore thieves are the scum of EVE. It's downright exploiting if you ask me. It's about time CCP did something about it. Adding criminal flagging to someone removing ore from a can should be easy enough.
Yeah, miners could use secure containers but you have to remember that CCP nerfed the anchoring of them in 0.8->1.0 space which is where most of the ore thieving takes place because this is where the larger density of miners are. Good one CCP.
If CCP give us much larger sized secure cans then I'm sure loads more miners would use them. At the moment if everyone switched to secure cans the market prices would shoot up which no-one wants to see.
Not to mention that most people use alts and trial characters to steal ore so going to 'war' is impossible and I would assume that a good majority of them are hiding behind law abiding characters. It all smacks off an exploit. Add criminal flagging and make them work for their money like everyone else. If someone comes up to me in a raven and steals my ore I aint arguing with him.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pseth
Yep, ore thieves are the scum of EVE. It's downright exploiting if you ask me. It's about time CCP did something about it. Adding criminal flagging to someone removing ore from a can should be easy enough.
Yeah, miners could use secure containers but you have to remember that CCP nerfed the anchoring of them in 0.8->1.0 space which is where most of the ore thieving takes place because this is where the larger density of miners are. Good one CCP.
If CCP give us much larger sized secure cans then I'm sure loads more miners would use them. At the moment if everyone switched to secure cans the market prices would shoot up which no-one wants to see.
Not to mention that most people use alts and trial characters to steal ore so going to 'war' is impossible and I would assume that a good majority of them are hiding behind law abiding characters. It all smacks off an exploit. Add criminal flagging and make them work for their money like everyone else. If someone comes up to me in a raven and steals my ore I aint arguing with him.
I wouldn't call the ore thieves the exploiters .
Besides, CCP made it so you can't secure cans in .8 and higher space for a reason! You know, space where NPC rats don't spawn in belts. Where certain unskilled players can learn the basics. If you can't take the hint, then I don't know what to do anymore.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.08.18 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pseth
Yep, ore thieves are the scum of EVE. It's downright exploiting if you ask me. It's about time CCP did something about it. Adding criminal flagging to someone removing ore from a can should be easy enough.
Yeah, miners could use secure containers but you have to remember that CCP nerfed the anchoring of them in 0.8->1.0 space which is where most of the ore thieving takes place because this is where the larger density of miners are. Good one CCP.
If CCP give us much larger sized secure cans then I'm sure loads more miners would use them. At the moment if everyone switched to secure cans the market prices would shoot up which no-one wants to see.
Not to mention that most people use alts and trial characters to steal ore so going to 'war' is impossible and I would assume that a good majority of them are hiding behind law abiding characters. It all smacks off an exploit. Add criminal flagging and make them work for their money like everyone else. If someone comes up to me in a raven and steals my ore I aint arguing with him.
I wouldn't call the ore thieves the exploiters .
Besides, CCP made it so you can't secure cans in .8 and higher space for a reason! You know, space where NPC rats don't spawn in belts. Where certain unskilled players can learn the basics. If you can't take the hint, then I don't know what to do anymore.
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Grant
His player name is William Dampier and he is a member of V I R I I corp based in the Lonetrek region Nourvukaiken solar system. PLease be aware of this individual as he is asking where people are mining on the local channel and then stealing thier ore. IMO he is a low down sneeky **** who needs to learn some manners. So all you honourable players out there take not and avoid talking to this individual.
Well my solution to ore-thiefs are quite simple... if you have 2 accounts why don't you start a war with the character you are best with (best skills fighting) and let your second account lure the thief into the trap.....
that way when the ore-thief shows up trying to steal your ore, you warp in with your fighter and blow him sky-high....
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Grant
His player name is William Dampier and he is a member of V I R I I corp based in the Lonetrek region Nourvukaiken solar system. PLease be aware of this individual as he is asking where people are mining on the local channel and then stealing thier ore. IMO he is a low down sneeky **** who needs to learn some manners. So all you honourable players out there take not and avoid talking to this individual.
Well my solution to ore-thiefs are quite simple... if you have 2 accounts why don't you start a war with the character you are best with (best skills fighting) and let your second account lure the thief into the trap.....
that way when the ore-thief shows up trying to steal your ore, you warp in with your fighter and blow him sky-high....
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"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things."
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Pseth
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids
I wouldn't call the ore thieves the exploiters .
Besides, CCP made it so you can't secure cans in .8 and higher space for a reason! You know, space where NPC rats don't spawn in belts. Where certain unskilled players can learn the basics. If you can't take the hint, then I don't know what to do anymore.
They exploit for the reasons given. Alt characters, law-abiding players can't retaliate, they transfer funds to main character. etc, etc.
As for 'exploiting' jet cans. At least everyone has the ability to do it so no one player gets an advantage nor does it actually hurt anyone else. You give miners secure cans as big or bigger than jet cans and they'll start to use them. Like I said, jet cans help keep the mineral prices lower for obvious reasons, this benefits all.
CCP *thought* in their infinfite wisdom they were helping unskilled/new players by nerfing anchoring when they in fact did the opposite. Most mega-corps will be mining straight into haulers on corp mining sessions so they aren't at a great risk. Plus, with larger ships they can quickly recoup their losses if some scum ore thief nicks 10 minutes worth of ore. On the other hand the new guy who can't afford secure cans nor can he use them, even if he could afford them, without going into more dangerous territory. For that he needs to go into npc territory so could do with some drone skills or lose miner turrets in place of weapons which usually requires even more skills to train, we've all been there. 
Again, more experienced players don't bat an eyelid when mining in 0.5->0.8 space and why use secure cans anyway there when most of the ore thieves are in 1.0 and 0.9 stealing from the new guys cans. Plus, who do you think it hurts more? The veteran miner who can replenish his stolen ore with his apoc in 10 minutes or the new guy who has just had about an hour of frigate mining ruined?
Please explain again how CCP helped the unexperienced players. I know if I was expected to mine in my first two weeks going back and forth from a local station everytime my hold filled CCP wouldn't have had the pleasure of a subscription fee. Regardless, CCP will realise their mistake and many others as the player count starts to slowly decrease and even the mighty shiva won't stop that.
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Pseth
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: MooKids
I wouldn't call the ore thieves the exploiters .
Besides, CCP made it so you can't secure cans in .8 and higher space for a reason! You know, space where NPC rats don't spawn in belts. Where certain unskilled players can learn the basics. If you can't take the hint, then I don't know what to do anymore.
They exploit for the reasons given. Alt characters, law-abiding players can't retaliate, they transfer funds to main character. etc, etc.
As for 'exploiting' jet cans. At least everyone has the ability to do it so no one player gets an advantage nor does it actually hurt anyone else. You give miners secure cans as big or bigger than jet cans and they'll start to use them. Like I said, jet cans help keep the mineral prices lower for obvious reasons, this benefits all.
CCP *thought* in their infinfite wisdom they were helping unskilled/new players by nerfing anchoring when they in fact did the opposite. Most mega-corps will be mining straight into haulers on corp mining sessions so they aren't at a great risk. Plus, with larger ships they can quickly recoup their losses if some scum ore thief nicks 10 minutes worth of ore. On the other hand the new guy who can't afford secure cans nor can he use them, even if he could afford them, without going into more dangerous territory. For that he needs to go into npc territory so could do with some drone skills or lose miner turrets in place of weapons which usually requires even more skills to train, we've all been there.
Again, more experienced players don't bat an eyelid when mining in 0.5->0.8 space and why use secure cans anyway there when most of the ore thieves are in 1.0 and 0.9 stealing from the new guys cans. Plus, who do you think it hurts more? The veteran miner who can replenish his stolen ore with his apoc in 10 minutes or the new guy who has just had about an hour of frigate mining ruined?
Please explain again how CCP helped the unexperienced players. I know if I was expected to mine in my first two weeks going back and forth from a local station everytime my hold filled CCP wouldn't have had the pleasure of a subscription fee. Regardless, CCP will realise their mistake and many others as the player count starts to slowly decrease and even the mighty shiva won't stop that.
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:36:00 -
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Give miners bigger secure cans... give pirates bigger guns?
The secure cans were designed at a size which CCP thought was reasonable to mine with.
If you want to mine into jettisoned cans then you have to be prepared to comprimise a little and the comprimise is that the jettisoned cans are open to anyone.
People keep whining about wanting bigger secure cans, how bout u just stfu and use the cans that are there now and if you get robbed by an ore thief then just admit that its your own bloody fault instead of whining like a kid.
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.18 09:36:00 -
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Give miners bigger secure cans... give pirates bigger guns?
The secure cans were designed at a size which CCP thought was reasonable to mine with.
If you want to mine into jettisoned cans then you have to be prepared to comprimise a little and the comprimise is that the jettisoned cans are open to anyone.
People keep whining about wanting bigger secure cans, how bout u just stfu and use the cans that are there now and if you get robbed by an ore thief then just admit that its your own bloody fault instead of whining like a kid.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:54:00 -
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There is nothing to steal. The can has been jetted.
I clean up ore from jetted cans. Its a simple way to make quick cash. If you want to keep your ore, get a secure can.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.08.18 10:54:00 -
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There is nothing to steal. The can has been jetted.
I clean up ore from jetted cans. Its a simple way to make quick cash. If you want to keep your ore, get a secure can.
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:19:00 -
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I wait for the release of the Rough Drones. Then we have npc 'ore thieves' ...
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:19:00 -
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I wait for the release of the Rough Drones. Then we have npc 'ore thieves' ...
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:31:00 -
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Imagine the whining that would erupt if NPC rats starting attacking jet cans!
That would be sooooo fun
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:31:00 -
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Imagine the whining that would erupt if NPC rats starting attacking jet cans!
That would be sooooo fun
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Ripp Tyde
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ripp Tyde on 18/08/2004 11:48:42
correct me if im wrong here.
When u jettison a can and u show info on it, it show your name. thus showing it is "owned" by an individual. Also you must even jettison a secure container. DUH!
I swear some of you peoples logic is just messed up.
I honestly dont care if u try n get inside my can. i just want to be able to blow you up at any given time for doing so.
The funny thing is that you "ore thieves" will not leave to a system where you have risk vs reward. so do not even begin to preach on the risk vs reward. sure i take a risk for jettisoning a can, one im willing to take. You must also have to risk something!
If i have offended anyone, my name is Ripp Tyde. Look me and come and meet me. That is if u will venture past the forbiden .5+ systems
Ripp Tyde
F.R.E.E.E.
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Ripp Tyde
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ripp Tyde on 18/08/2004 11:48:42
correct me if im wrong here.
When u jettison a can and u show info on it, it show your name. thus showing it is "owned" by an individual. Also you must even jettison a secure container. DUH!
I swear some of you peoples logic is just messed up.
I honestly dont care if u try n get inside my can. i just want to be able to blow you up at any given time for doing so.
The funny thing is that you "ore thieves" will not leave to a system where you have risk vs reward. so do not even begin to preach on the risk vs reward. sure i take a risk for jettisoning a can, one im willing to take. You must also have to risk something!
If i have offended anyone, my name is Ripp Tyde. Look me and come and meet me. That is if u will venture past the forbiden .5+ systems
Ripp Tyde
F.R.E.E.E.
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodia
I wait for the release of the Rough Drones. Then we have npc 'ore thieves' ...
Oh please no! The newest topic is already in sight.
*KOS Guristas Invader!*
He blew up my can hes just a griefer!
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Shade Widow
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Posted - 2004.08.18 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Asmodia
I wait for the release of the Rough Drones. Then we have npc 'ore thieves' ...
Oh please no! The newest topic is already in sight.
*KOS Guristas Invader!*
He blew up my can hes just a griefer!
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Taggz
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Taggz on 18/08/2004 12:17:01
I believe the following quote can be found in the support link to the left if you search for 'ore theif'
Originally by: Support section
"The regular containers were designed to jettison unwanted items into space or to hold loot from blown up ships. They were designed so that any player could take from them because that was essential for them to function as they were intended. Players later invented the "container mining" method after noticing that the containers could hold way more than any cargo hold. This use for the containers was never intended and it has the obvious flaw that any player with a reduced sense of right and wrong can come by and take everything from the container and no one can do anything about it."
Mining with a normal jetisoned can is not intended. Simple as that. Use secure containers or your cargo hold. Otherwise your simply taking a risk and have no grounds to whine about theifs.
Edit: Grammar
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Taggz
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Posted - 2004.08.18 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Taggz on 18/08/2004 12:17:01
I believe the following quote can be found in the support link to the left if you search for 'ore theif'
Originally by: Support section
"The regular containers were designed to jettison unwanted items into space or to hold loot from blown up ships. They were designed so that any player could take from them because that was essential for them to function as they were intended. Players later invented the "container mining" method after noticing that the containers could hold way more than any cargo hold. This use for the containers was never intended and it has the obvious flaw that any player with a reduced sense of right and wrong can come by and take everything from the container and no one can do anything about it."
Mining with a normal jetisoned can is not intended. Simple as that. Use secure containers or your cargo hold. Otherwise your simply taking a risk and have no grounds to whine about theifs.
Edit: Grammar
-Taggz
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Vintorez Kosakami
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Posted - 2004.08.18 13:52:00 -
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your victims of your own demise, you moan coz of the thiefs, so you moan for secure containers then abuse them in 1.0 space for advertising and blocking up the belts with your spam, then people moan coz of the spam, so it gets fixed, then you moan how you cant use them to counter thiefs. make up your minds or pickup the dummy, grind your teeth and live with it.
thiefs are not the exploiters here, the miners are the exploiters.
We Ride Among Thieves On Mighty Steads, Across The Devils Plane.
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Vintorez Kosakami
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Posted - 2004.08.18 13:52:00 -
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your victims of your own demise, you moan coz of the thiefs, so you moan for secure containers then abuse them in 1.0 space for advertising and blocking up the belts with your spam, then people moan coz of the spam, so it gets fixed, then you moan how you cant use them to counter thiefs. make up your minds or pickup the dummy, grind your teeth and live with it.
thiefs are not the exploiters here, the miners are the exploiters.
We Ride Among Thieves On Mighty Steads, Across The Devils Plane.
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:32:00 -
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Yeah, itll be good when ore thiefs are in battleships :) it would be fun seing someone in a cruiser try to do anything then :P
Whiny whiny miners :P
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:32:00 -
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Yeah, itll be good when ore thiefs are in battleships :) it would be fun seing someone in a cruiser try to do anything then :P
Whiny whiny miners :P
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Ebedar
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:43:00 -
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Bah, I read the title of this thread and thought it was going to contain a premium rate number 
My life in pictures:
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Ebedar
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Posted - 2004.08.18 14:43:00 -
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Bah, I read the title of this thread and thought it was going to contain a premium rate number
My life in pictures:
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.18 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Vintorez Kosakami
thiefs are not the exploiters here, the miners are the exploiters.
Riiiiiiight. And I suppose you believe that the world is flat also.
Actually, the only way to truly deal with ore thieves is to hunt down their real life identities and kill them in their own homes.
But, if you aren't willing to do that, then you can just use one of the many techniques that have been mentioned on these boards two hundred billion times to outsmart and sometimes even blow up the ore thieves.
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.18 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Vintorez Kosakami
thiefs are not the exploiters here, the miners are the exploiters.
Riiiiiiight. And I suppose you believe that the world is flat also.
Actually, the only way to truly deal with ore thieves is to hunt down their real life identities and kill them in their own homes.
But, if you aren't willing to do that, then you can just use one of the many techniques that have been mentioned on these boards two hundred billion times to outsmart and sometimes even blow up the ore thieves.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.18 15:43:00 -
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you may declare war on Tundragon any time if you want, but ill doubt ill ever see you in low sec space
/emote going to train a higher amarr indie level with her alt
Wanna fly with me?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2004.08.18 15:43:00 -
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you may declare war on Tundragon any time if you want, but ill doubt ill ever see you in low sec space
/emote going to train a higher amarr indie level with her alt
Wanna fly with me?
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.08.19 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Attrael
Actually, the only way to truly deal with ore thieves is to hunt down their real life identities and kill them in their own homes.
I swear that you want to be banned.
Besides, the jet can miners exploited first by using a jet can for something other than it's intended use, therefore an exploit by CCP's standards. Ore liberators are just punishing the exploiters.
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.08.19 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Attrael
Actually, the only way to truly deal with ore thieves is to hunt down their real life identities and kill them in their own homes.
I swear that you want to be banned.
Besides, the jet can miners exploited first by using a jet can for something other than it's intended use, therefore an exploit by CCP's standards. Ore liberators are just punishing the exploiters.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.19 04:04:00 -
[53]
I enjoy how the carebears are trying to rewrite the intent with which the game was coded for their own needs.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
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Posted - 2004.08.19 04:04:00 -
[54]
I enjoy how the carebears are trying to rewrite the intent with which the game was coded for their own needs.
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Jackie Zaviez
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Posted - 2004.08.19 07:25:00 -
[55]
The people who saying use Secure cans
please !!
the trouble to anchoring one is first you must get your indy out there with a secure can
after that the **** starts you cant place the secure can nearer then 5000m from the closest object then after that you cant place a secure can near the first can O you must then anchoring the next can 5000m from the other can
The people who mine now understand the problem and even the impossible to use secure cans
you the rest can stuff it.
further more you cant use secure cans in high lvl sectors due to ccp banned them ..
all other comment about I shall use secure cans is utterly bull**** and ore thiefs shall die ..
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Jackie Zaviez
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Posted - 2004.08.19 07:25:00 -
[56]
The people who saying use Secure cans
please !!
the trouble to anchoring one is first you must get your indy out there with a secure can
after that the **** starts you cant place the secure can nearer then 5000m from the closest object then after that you cant place a secure can near the first can O you must then anchoring the next can 5000m from the other can
The people who mine now understand the problem and even the impossible to use secure cans
you the rest can stuff it.
further more you cant use secure cans in high lvl sectors due to ccp banned them ..
all other comment about I shall use secure cans is utterly bull**** and ore thiefs shall die ..
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:23:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Ryctor on 19/08/2004 08:24:52
Originally by: Jackie Zaviez
The people who saying use Secure cans
please !!
the trouble to anchoring one is first you must get your indy out there with a secure can
after that the **** starts you cant place the secure can nearer then 5000m from the closest object then after that you cant place a secure can near the first can O you must then anchoring the next can 5000m from the other can
The people who mine now understand the problem and even the impossible to use secure cans
you the rest can stuff it.
further more you cant use secure cans in high lvl sectors due to ccp banned them ..
all other comment about I shall use secure cans is utterly bull**** and ore thiefs shall die ..
I hang around the Jel area if you would liek to come and make me "die" cupcake.
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:23:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Ryctor on 19/08/2004 08:24:52
Originally by: Jackie Zaviez
The people who saying use Secure cans
please !!
the trouble to anchoring one is first you must get your indy out there with a secure can
after that the **** starts you cant place the secure can nearer then 5000m from the closest object then after that you cant place a secure can near the first can O you must then anchoring the next can 5000m from the other can
The people who mine now understand the problem and even the impossible to use secure cans
you the rest can stuff it.
further more you cant use secure cans in high lvl sectors due to ccp banned them ..
all other comment about I shall use secure cans is utterly bull**** and ore thiefs shall die ..
I hang around the Jel area if you would liek to come and make me "die" cupcake.
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:39:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Jackie Zaviez
The people who saying use Secure cans
please !!
the trouble to anchoring one is first you must get your indy out there with a secure can
after that the **** starts you cant place the secure can nearer then 5000m from the closest object then after that you cant place a secure can near the first can O you must then anchoring the next can 5000m from the other can
The people who mine now understand the problem and even the impossible to use secure cans
you the rest can stuff it.
further more you cant use secure cans in high lvl sectors due to ccp banned them ..
all other comment about I shall use secure cans is utterly bull**** and ore thiefs shall die ..
Yeah, like us 'non miners' didnt know that already.......
The fact that theyre not placeable closer than 5km to each other is as much for youre benefit as anyone elses, getting stuck in a wall of anchored containers isnt much fun.
Not being able to anchor cans in 1.0-0.8 space was CCPs idea, probably to make mining a bit more of a pain in the ass for the non noobs around there and to reduce the lag created by the thousands of anchored cans.
CCP has known about Ore thieves for ages now, its not as if its a new developement in the game is it? and the reason they havent done anything about is because you are using jet cans in a way that wasnt intended.... Mining is already bloody easy, theyre not gonna make it any easier for u pu55ies :P
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.19 08:39:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Jackie Zaviez
The people who saying use Secure cans
please !!
the trouble to anchoring one is first you must get your indy out there with a secure can
after that the **** starts you cant place the secure can nearer then 5000m from the closest object then after that you cant place a secure can near the first can O you must then anchoring the next can 5000m from the other can
The people who mine now understand the problem and even the impossible to use secure cans
you the rest can stuff it.
further more you cant use secure cans in high lvl sectors due to ccp banned them ..
all other comment about I shall use secure cans is utterly bull**** and ore thiefs shall die ..
Yeah, like us 'non miners' didnt know that already.......
The fact that theyre not placeable closer than 5km to each other is as much for youre benefit as anyone elses, getting stuck in a wall of anchored containers isnt much fun.
Not being able to anchor cans in 1.0-0.8 space was CCPs idea, probably to make mining a bit more of a pain in the ass for the non noobs around there and to reduce the lag created by the thousands of anchored cans.
CCP has known about Ore thieves for ages now, its not as if its a new developement in the game is it? and the reason they havent done anything about is because you are using jet cans in a way that wasnt intended.... Mining is already bloody easy, theyre not gonna make it any easier for u pu55ies :P
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.08.19 09:43:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Ripp Tyde
When u jettison a can and u show info on it, it show your name. thus showing it is "owned" by an individual. Also you must even jettison a secure container. DUH!
I swear some of you peoples logic is just messed up.
If you show info on a jetty can it shows who jettisoned it......... not who owns it.......abandoned drones are owned till they are disabled and cannot be scooped................ore cans however can be emptied
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Broc Vallion
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Posted - 2004.08.19 09:43:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Ripp Tyde
When u jettison a can and u show info on it, it show your name. thus showing it is "owned" by an individual. Also you must even jettison a secure container. DUH!
I swear some of you peoples logic is just messed up.
If you show info on a jetty can it shows who jettisoned it......... not who owns it.......abandoned drones are owned till they are disabled and cannot be scooped................ore cans however can be emptied
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.19 15:38:00 -
[63]
Originally by: MooKids
I swear that you want to be banned.
Besides, the jet can miners exploited first by using a jet can for something other than it's intended use, therefore an exploit by CCP's standards. Ore liberators are just punishing the exploiters.
There there Mookie. Don't feel bad. You know I can't be banned. You, on the other hand, seem to be quite good at it. But please, keep writing. It's very entertaining.
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.19 15:38:00 -
[64]
Originally by: MooKids
I swear that you want to be banned.
Besides, the jet can miners exploited first by using a jet can for something other than it's intended use, therefore an exploit by CCP's standards. Ore liberators are just punishing the exploiters.
There there Mookie. Don't feel bad. You know I can't be banned. You, on the other hand, seem to be quite good at it. But please, keep writing. It's very entertaining.
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.19 16:10:00 -
[65]
How bout we all find where attrael lives and beat him round the head with a copy of Eve in his home and see whether he agrees then? :p
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.19 16:10:00 -
[66]
How bout we all find where attrael lives and beat him round the head with a copy of Eve in his home and see whether he agrees then? :p
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.19 18:49:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Kinky
How bout we all find where attrael lives and beat him round the head with a copy of Eve in his home and see whether he agrees then? :p
Hey there! Keep those 'kinky' fantasies to yourself!
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Attrael
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Posted - 2004.08.19 18:49:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Kinky
How bout we all find where attrael lives and beat him round the head with a copy of Eve in his home and see whether he agrees then? :p
Hey there! Keep those 'kinky' fantasies to yourself!
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Danks
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Posted - 2004.08.19 19:37:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Kinky
How bout we all find where attrael lives and beat him round the head with a copy of Eve in his home and see whether he agrees then? :p
Nah, we don't want to stoop to this guy's level. It's more fun to laugh at the idiocy
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Danks
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Posted - 2004.08.19 19:37:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Kinky
How bout we all find where attrael lives and beat him round the head with a copy of Eve in his home and see whether he agrees then? :p
Nah, we don't want to stoop to this guy's level. It's more fun to laugh at the idiocy
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flummox
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Posted - 2004.08.19 20:29:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Taggz
Edited by: Taggz on 18/08/2004 12:17:01
I believe the following quote can be found in the support link to the left if you search for 'ore theif'
Originally by: Support section
"The regular containers were designed to jettison unwanted items into space or to hold loot from blown up ships. They were designed so that any player could take from them because that was essential for them to function as they were intended. Players later invented the "container mining" method after noticing that the containers could hold way more than any cargo hold. This use for the containers was never intended and it has the obvious flaw that any player with a reduced sense of right and wrong can come by and take everything from the container and no one can do anything about it."
Mining with a normal jetisoned can is not intended. Simple as that. Use secure containers or your cargo hold. Otherwise your simply taking a risk and have no grounds to whine about theifs.
Edit: Grammar
you failed. try again...
don't be such a fool. no one needs your permission to whine, complain, express themselves, be social, moan, criticize, discuss, debate, or anything else they choose to do with their time...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
flummox
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Posted - 2004.08.19 20:29:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Taggz
Edited by: Taggz on 18/08/2004 12:17:01
I believe the following quote can be found in the support link to the left if you search for 'ore theif'
Originally by: Support section
"The regular containers were designed to jettison unwanted items into space or to hold loot from blown up ships. They were designed so that any player could take from them because that was essential for them to function as they were intended. Players later invented the "container mining" method after noticing that the containers could hold way more than any cargo hold. This use for the containers was never intended and it has the obvious flaw that any player with a reduced sense of right and wrong can come by and take everything from the container and no one can do anything about it."
Mining with a normal jetisoned can is not intended. Simple as that. Use secure containers or your cargo hold. Otherwise your simply taking a risk and have no grounds to whine about theifs.
Edit: Grammar
you failed. try again...
don't be such a fool. no one needs your permission to whine, complain, express themselves, be social, moan, criticize, discuss, debate, or anything else they choose to do with their time...
there is a fine, but dissasterous line between a fart and a shart. i suggest you make sure which side you want to be on... |
Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2004.08.19 23:04:00 -
[73]
Ore thives this ore thieves that. Who cares. They haven't ever bothered me. And would that be cause I use secure one's When I bother to mine
G.G
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Glarion Garnier
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Posted - 2004.08.19 23:04:00 -
[74]
Ore thives this ore thieves that. Who cares. They haven't ever bothered me. And would that be cause I use secure one's When I bother to mine
G.G
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Mujahid Mukhtaar
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Posted - 2004.08.20 12:28:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Taggz
Originally by: Support section
"The regular containers were designed to jettison unwanted items into space or to hold loot from blown up ships. They were designed so that any player could take from them because that was essential for them to function as they were intended. Players later invented the "container mining" method after noticing that the containers could hold way more than any cargo hold. This use for the containers was never intended and it has the obvious flaw that any player with a reduced sense of right and wrong can come by and take everything from the container and no one can do anything about it."
I just wanted to highlight something everyone seems to be missing.
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Mujahid Mukhtaar
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Posted - 2004.08.20 12:28:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Taggz
Originally by: Support section
"The regular containers were designed to jettison unwanted items into space or to hold loot from blown up ships. They were designed so that any player could take from them because that was essential for them to function as they were intended. Players later invented the "container mining" method after noticing that the containers could hold way more than any cargo hold. This use for the containers was never intended and it has the obvious flaw that any player with a reduced sense of right and wrong can come by and take everything from the container and no one can do anything about it."
I just wanted to highlight something everyone seems to be missing.
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:10:00 -
[77]
Its a game :P there is no 'right and wrong'
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Kinky
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Posted - 2004.08.20 14:10:00 -
[78]
Its a game :P there is no 'right and wrong'
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Vargrh
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Posted - 2004.08.20 19:45:00 -
[79]
Rights and wrongs in eve :P
People that steal from corps because they fall out with the other players in the corp in real life, are the only ones that are out of line.
Joining a corp with the specific intent to infiltrate it to get access to steal from it, is legitimate play, as all corps should take precautions to prevent it, so deviousness that pays off is good IMHO.
Ore thieving is fun, productive and results in healthy declarations of war when utilised as a war provoking method by bigger corps. People that steal ore with alts that are in NPC corporations are smart, not evil and good luck to them. The whole point of eve is that its open in respect to character development. If you dont like ore theives, theres plenty of ways to avoid their tactics if you use your intelligence. Without a criminal class, eve would be boring.
Ganking is again an element that adds to the games openess. If there wasnt any threat to moving your stuff through 0.0 or being targetting in areas with low or no concord /faction police response, then the game would have all been 1.0.
I appreciate that some of your whinging carebears would like to be able to mine crokite or spod in 1.0 in a fully mining equipped apoc with countless drones, but thats not the way the world works :P Live with it, and either boringly mine veld all your in game life, or become adventurous and join a pirate or anti pirate corp or mine with adequate mining security.
And by the way, you can always BUY mining passes to mine in pirate space... the best people to contact in respect of this are any players in the 'tookurstuff' chan who will sell you a lovely 'all regions gank free guarantee mining pass' for 10million isk each :P
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Vargrh
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Posted - 2004.08.20 19:45:00 -
[80]
Rights and wrongs in eve :P
People that steal from corps because they fall out with the other players in the corp in real life, are the only ones that are out of line.
Joining a corp with the specific intent to infiltrate it to get access to steal from it, is legitimate play, as all corps should take precautions to prevent it, so deviousness that pays off is good IMHO.
Ore thieving is fun, productive and results in healthy declarations of war when utilised as a war provoking method by bigger corps. People that steal ore with alts that are in NPC corporations are smart, not evil and good luck to them. The whole point of eve is that its open in respect to character development. If you dont like ore theives, theres plenty of ways to avoid their tactics if you use your intelligence. Without a criminal class, eve would be boring.
Ganking is again an element that adds to the games openess. If there wasnt any threat to moving your stuff through 0.0 or being targetting in areas with low or no concord /faction police response, then the game would have all been 1.0.
I appreciate that some of your whinging carebears would like to be able to mine crokite or spod in 1.0 in a fully mining equipped apoc with countless drones, but thats not the way the world works :P Live with it, and either boringly mine veld all your in game life, or become adventurous and join a pirate or anti pirate corp or mine with adequate mining security.
And by the way, you can always BUY mining passes to mine in pirate space... the best people to contact in respect of this are any players in the 'tookurstuff' chan who will sell you a lovely 'all regions gank free guarantee mining pass' for 10million isk each :P
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Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2004.08.20 21:22:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Pseth
They exploit for the reasons given. Alt characters, law-abiding players can't retaliate, they transfer funds to main character. etc, etc.
As for 'exploiting' jet cans. At least everyone has the ability to do it so no one player gets an advantage nor does it actually hurt anyone else. You give miners secure cans as big or bigger than jet cans and they'll start to use them. Like I said, jet cans help keep the mineral prices lower for obvious reasons, this benefits all.
CCP *thought* in their infinfite wisdom they were helping unskilled/new players by nerfing anchoring when they in fact did the opposite. Most mega-corps will be mining straight into haulers on corp mining sessions so they aren't at a great risk. Plus, with larger ships they can quickly recoup their losses if some scum ore thief nicks 10 minutes worth of ore. On the other hand the new guy who can't afford secure cans nor can he use them, even if he could afford them, without going into more dangerous territory. For that he needs to go into npc territory so could do with some drone skills or lose miner turrets in place of weapons which usually requires even more skills to train, we've all been there.
Again, more experienced players don't bat an eyelid when mining in 0.5->0.8 space and why use secure cans anyway there when most of the ore thieves are in 1.0 and 0.9 stealing from the new guys cans. Plus, who do you think it hurts more? The veteran miner who can replenish his stolen ore with his apoc in 10 minutes or the new guy who has just had about an hour of frigate mining ruined?
Please explain again how CCP helped the unexperienced players. I know if I was expected to mine in my first two weeks going back and forth from a local station everytime my hold filled CCP wouldn't have had the pleasure of a subscription fee. Regardless, CCP will realise their mistake and many others as the player count starts to slowly decrease and even the mighty shiva won't stop that.
nicely done
___________________________
Aegis Militia Conclave official representative |
Lord Artemis
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Posted - 2004.08.20 21:22:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Pseth
They exploit for the reasons given. Alt characters, law-abiding players can't retaliate, they transfer funds to main character. etc, etc.
As for 'exploiting' jet cans. At least everyone has the ability to do it so no one player gets an advantage nor does it actually hurt anyone else. You give miners secure cans as big or bigger than jet cans and they'll start to use them. Like I said, jet cans help keep the mineral prices lower for obvious reasons, this benefits all.
CCP *thought* in their infinfite wisdom they were helping unskilled/new players by nerfing anchoring when they in fact did the opposite. Most mega-corps will be mining straight into haulers on corp mining sessions so they aren't at a great risk. Plus, with larger ships they can quickly recoup their losses if some scum ore thief nicks 10 minutes worth of ore. On the other hand the new guy who can't afford secure cans nor can he use them, even if he could afford them, without going into more dangerous territory. For that he needs to go into npc territory so could do with some drone skills or lose miner turrets in place of weapons which usually requires even more skills to train, we've all been there.
Again, more experienced players don't bat an eyelid when mining in 0.5->0.8 space and why use secure cans anyway there when most of the ore thieves are in 1.0 and 0.9 stealing from the new guys cans. Plus, who do you think it hurts more? The veteran miner who can replenish his stolen ore with his apoc in 10 minutes or the new guy who has just had about an hour of frigate mining ruined?
Please explain again how CCP helped the unexperienced players. I know if I was expected to mine in my first two weeks going back and forth from a local station everytime my hold filled CCP wouldn't have had the pleasure of a subscription fee. Regardless, CCP will realise their mistake and many others as the player count starts to slowly decrease and even the mighty shiva won't stop that.
nicely done
___________________________
Aegis Militia Conclave official representative |
Khamal Kahn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 15:50:00 -
[83]
I have no probs with Ore thieves..BUT i do have have a problem with that thers is no way to defend yourself against it. without having too deploy like 1k of secure cans. When you eject a can its marked with you corp trigger.So in my opinion it should be an agression when an outside party destroys it or begins to empty it. Just my opinion
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Khamal Kahn
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Posted - 2004.08.21 15:50:00 -
[84]
I have no probs with Ore thieves..BUT i do have have a problem with that thers is no way to defend yourself against it. without having too deploy like 1k of secure cans. When you eject a can its marked with you corp trigger.So in my opinion it should be an agression when an outside party destroys it or begins to empty it. Just my opinion
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2004.08.21 18:10:00 -
[85]
There are 2 ways to defend against ore thieves.....mine in to your hold or use a ******* secure can.
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Ryctor
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Posted - 2004.08.21 18:10:00 -
[86]
There are 2 ways to defend against ore thieves.....mine in to your hold or use a ******* secure can.
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Jackie Zaviez
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Posted - 2004.08.21 22:05:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Jackie Zaviez on 21/08/2004 22:06:26
Originally by: Ryctor
Edited by: Ryctor on 19/08/2004 08:24:52
Originally by: Jackie Zaviez
The people who saying use Secure cans
please !!
the trouble to anchoring one is first you must get your indy out there with a secure can
after that the **** starts you cant place the secure can nearer then 5000m from the closest object then after that you cant place a secure can near the first can O you must then anchoring the next can 5000m from the other can
The people who mine now understand the problem and even the impossible to use secure cans
you the rest can stuff it.
further more you cant use secure cans in high lvl sectors due to ccp banned them ..
all other comment about I shall use secure cans is utterly bull**** and ore thiefs shall die ..
I hang around the Jel area if you would liek to come and make me "die" cupcake.
I remember that Ryctor
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Jackie Zaviez
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Posted - 2004.08.21 22:05:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Jackie Zaviez on 21/08/2004 22:06:26
Originally by: Ryctor
Edited by: Ryctor on 19/08/2004 08:24:52
Originally by: Jackie Zaviez
The people who saying use Secure cans
please !!
the trouble to anchoring one is first you must get your indy out there with a secure can
after that the **** starts you cant place the secure can nearer then 5000m from the closest object then after that you cant place a secure can near the first can O you must then anchoring the next can 5000m from the other can
The people who mine now understand the problem and even the impossible to use secure cans
you the rest can stuff it.
further more you cant use secure cans in high lvl sectors due to ccp banned them ..
all other comment about I shall use secure cans is utterly bull**** and ore thiefs shall die ..
I hang around the Jel area if you would liek to come and make me "die" cupcake.
I remember that Ryctor
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Cissy
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Posted - 2004.08.21 23:08:00 -
[89]
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...stupido...stupido
ccp standpoint:
http://www.eve-online.com/background/potw/feb01-03.asp
hope im not breaking any rules whit this link..and latly im not shure how ccp stand cuz i get the feeling they have backed out on that standpoint
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your logic is flawed, therfor you are flawd |
Cissy
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Posted - 2004.08.21 23:08:00 -
[90]
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...stupido...stupido
ccp standpoint:
http://www.eve-online.com/background/potw/feb01-03.asp
hope im not breaking any rules whit this link..and latly im not shure how ccp stand cuz i get the feeling they have backed out on that standpoint
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your logic is flawed, therfor you are flawd |
splattercat
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Posted - 2004.08.22 00:19:00 -
[91]
Edited by: splattercat on 22/08/2004 00:30:44
Originally by: Ebedar
Bah, I read the title of this thread and thought it was going to contain a premium rate number
No thats just wishfull thinking
However its a know fact that if u put lots of mega into a jet can it makes ore "relocaters" run, a bit like Garlic and vampires.. (PS let me know where you are going to try this pls I errr just want to look)
(edit drunk spelling once more)
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splattercat
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Posted - 2004.08.22 00:19:00 -
[92]
Edited by: splattercat on 22/08/2004 00:30:44
Originally by: Ebedar
Bah, I read the title of this thread and thought it was going to contain a premium rate number
No thats just wishfull thinking
However its a know fact that if u put lots of mega into a jet can it makes ore "relocaters" run, a bit like Garlic and vampires.. (PS let me know where you are going to try this pls I errr just want to look)
(edit drunk spelling once more)
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Aleksandar Kerensky
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:24:00 -
[93]
While I do thoughrly hate Ore Thieves, and they are very Scummy, having lost my share, and more corp having lost a fair share of resources to them. On the flipside, it is realistic, their are thieves in the Real World, these guys arn't like the guys that are trying to Steal your account. They've just chosen a Criminal Career, a Pirate Destroys you and takes your stuff, and Ore Thief sneaks up to your Can and takes your stuff. I hate them, but hey, it is realistic, and players that attack them are acting as the police force to fight it. It just adds another element to the game :P
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Aleksandar Kerensky
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Posted - 2004.08.25 15:24:00 -
[94]
While I do thoughrly hate Ore Thieves, and they are very Scummy, having lost my share, and more corp having lost a fair share of resources to them. On the flipside, it is realistic, their are thieves in the Real World, these guys arn't like the guys that are trying to Steal your account. They've just chosen a Criminal Career, a Pirate Destroys you and takes your stuff, and Ore Thief sneaks up to your Can and takes your stuff. I hate them, but hey, it is realistic, and players that attack them are acting as the police force to fight it. It just adds another element to the game :P
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Thraxll
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Posted - 2004.08.26 03:59:00 -
[95]
Just to play devil's advocate: a couple of weeks ago, while still in my Probe, I saw some gimp in an APOC jetcan mining in Lustrevik (.9 noobie space). I'm not a thief, but I SO wished that I had an indy at the time so I could steal his ore. People like that guy are the reason why ore thieving should be allowed. Bop around .9-1.0 space sometime and see how many of these belts (that are presumably there for noobs to mine) are completely stripped by gimps in BS's.
"The long and short of it is that this game, or any game, is either going to be a kindergarten where it's safe and cuddly and secure and you can play with plush tigers, or it will be a harsh place, harsh but interesting and interesting because harsh, where you must take risks to succeed and so must everyone, since victory is tasteless without danger." - Raivn Akhama
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Thraxll
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Posted - 2004.08.26 03:59:00 -
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Just to play devil's advocate: a couple of weeks ago, while still in my Probe, I saw some gimp in an APOC jetcan mining in Lustrevik (.9 noobie space). I'm not a thief, but I SO wished that I had an indy at the time so I could steal his ore. People like that guy are the reason why ore thieving should be allowed. Bop around .9-1.0 space sometime and see how many of these belts (that are presumably there for noobs to mine) are completely stripped by gimps in BS's.
"The long and short of it is that this game, or any game, is either going to be a kindergarten where it's safe and cuddly and secure and you can play with plush tigers, or it will be a harsh place, harsh but interesting and interesting because harsh, where you must take risks to succeed and so must everyone, since victory is tasteless without danger." - Raivn Akhama
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Ebedar
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Posted - 2004.08.26 09:57:00 -
[97]
Originally by: splattercat
Edited by: splattercat on 22/08/2004 00:30:44
(edit drunk spelling once more)
You should just add that as a permanent disclaimer in your sig
My life in pictures:
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Ebedar
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Posted - 2004.08.26 09:57:00 -
[98]
Originally by: splattercat
Edited by: splattercat on 22/08/2004 00:30:44
(edit drunk spelling once more)
You should just add that as a permanent disclaimer in your sig
My life in pictures:
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Ghostphantom
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Posted - 2004.08.26 11:06:00 -
[99]
I Hate Ore Theft!!!
Vice CEO
Guardian Angels
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Ghostphantom
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Posted - 2004.08.26 11:06:00 -
[100]
I Hate Ore Theft!!!
Vice CEO
Guardian Angels
http://www.guardian-angels-eve.co.uk |
Wyclef
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Posted - 2004.08.26 11:11:00 -
[101]
It will all be fixed with contraband 'soon'
It would be cool if CCP could actually decide something properly about jettisoned cans. If you take a potshot on a can that belongs to somebody, be it a jettisoned or a giant anchored, you get a security-status hit, become criminally flagged - and in high sec space Concord ganks you on the spot. (oh noes ebil pirate did 4.3 damage to a giant, lets kill him!!)
While you can open up and empty a jettisoned anywhere you want without getting hurt.
Makes sense doesnt it
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Wyclef
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Posted - 2004.08.26 11:11:00 -
[102]
It will all be fixed with contraband 'soon'
It would be cool if CCP could actually decide something properly about jettisoned cans. If you take a potshot on a can that belongs to somebody, be it a jettisoned or a giant anchored, you get a security-status hit, become criminally flagged - and in high sec space Concord ganks you on the spot. (oh noes ebil pirate did 4.3 damage to a giant, lets kill him!!)
While you can open up and empty a jettisoned anywhere you want without getting hurt.
Makes sense doesnt it
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Lord Elric
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:00:00 -
[103]
Can theft is no longer exclusive to miners I run agent missions and have been getting the blockade quite a lot and often see ppl in frigs just hanging around waiting for you to kill the NPC's they then speed in and empty the cans while your still fighting as they have no risk to them involved as the NPC's only fire on the agent runner or if fired upon. I believe this mission should be moved to about 500k from the gate so the NPC's can attack anything in range 
"Requested items: One Mark V ECM unit, 1000 km of fullerene cable, one low yield nuclear warhead. Stated purpose: birthday party for Amarian dignitary."
-Special Operations Service requisition form- |
Lord Elric
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Posted - 2004.08.26 12:00:00 -
[104]
Can theft is no longer exclusive to miners I run agent missions and have been getting the blockade quite a lot and often see ppl in frigs just hanging around waiting for you to kill the NPC's they then speed in and empty the cans while your still fighting as they have no risk to them involved as the NPC's only fire on the agent runner or if fired upon. I believe this mission should be moved to about 500k from the gate so the NPC's can attack anything in range
"Requested items: One Mark V ECM unit, 1000 km of fullerene cable, one low yield nuclear warhead. Stated purpose: birthday party for Amarian dignitary."
-Special Operations Service requisition form- |
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