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Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 14:20:00 - [31] Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 14:15:02 Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 14:00:33 Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 02:52:45 Current share holders : Armoured C - 500 shares (isk in) <shares sent> Chribba - 50 shares - (isk in) <shares sent> Draylan Poltrin - 50 (isk in) <shares sent> brutoid - 50 (isk in) <shares sent> Mama Pacha - 50 (isk in) <shares sent> Oyraa - 50 (isk in) <shares sent> xEllinx - 50 (isk in) <shares sent> Ms Delerium - 42 (iisk in) <shares sent> Xi Xing - 50 (isk in) <shares sent> Viktor Raybach - 50 (isk in) <shares sent> spitfire62 - 50 (isk in) <shares sent> Nif Makria - 8 (isk in and refunded) <shares sent> current shares holder are stated above if you did not cut the grade i am sorry but my rule of no fat cat reservations means it only first come first serve with this corporation and any of my businesses. If you have sent me isk and did not make the cut it has been refunded to you. all iskies are being put into the corperation as we speak and i guess you will get you first dividends tomorrow. thank you for all your intrest in Armou and there will be many many more investment going into the market. so if you didnt make it this time there will be more oppertunities. Personal thank for ms delerium for not buying the full aloocated shares to allow one more person to be put into the share holder group. Thank you so much join from 10,000 isk per share
Aeragogos Orycheious	Posted - 2009.03.23 14:20:00 - [32] Ponzai!
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 14:26:00 - [33] Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious Ponzai! your opinions don't matter here. Quote: may I say, TLDR, which is one of the problems of some BP. Must be short and attractive. If this was "serious business" (billions) people would obviously read it all and probably want more. But for charge money, we just trust you :D this is a serious business, it doesnt have to be worth billion for it to be considered serious. as i am seriously trying to change the face of public IPO's these new miniIPO's are what i believe to be what the doctor ordered :) fun simple shares. i better start hauling A$$ and making you guys some iskies join from 10,000 isk per share
Xi Xing Gallente Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.23 14:45:00 - [34] Excellent news, thanks AC From almost any player's point of view, 500,000 ISK is not a lot. I personally think you should have made it a little bit higher so there's more feeling of risk/reward. I can make more blowing up 1 serpentis BS than I will off this entire investment!! However, it's fun to see how this works and help a player set up their first miniIPO, and I look forward to seeing the profits from it. Also, hopefully you will be successful and I will be a preferred investor for your next round! Good luck and I look forward to reciving my ISK :)
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:09:00 - [35] Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 15:12:07 the risk vs reward of this investment is virtually nill considering it only trade good, right at this second i am moving construction blocks and have made enough for tomorrows dividend payment. it is good to hear that you will become a future investor, now i got to go haul some stuff this venture is not for the money it for the fun in shares, although you do make money through it. that is what my entire premise of my business is about , bringing some fun back join from 10,000 isk per share
Aeragogos Orycheious	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:12:00 - [36] Originally by: Armoured C Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious Ponzai! your opinions don't matter here. Quote: may I say, TLDR, which is one of the problems of some BP. Must be short and attractive. If this was "serious business" (billions) people would obviously read it all and probably want more. But for charge money, we just trust you :D this is a serious business, it doesnt have to be worth billion for it to be considered serious. as i am seriously trying to change the face of public IPO's these new miniIPO's are what i believe to be what the doctor ordered :) fun simple shares. i better start hauling A$$ and making you guys some iskies Here? you mean this fake / virtual forum board.. Oh no I am hurt. btw. you don't matter anywhere. PONZAI!
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:14:00 - [37] for the amount of isk i was given over for people grabbing at these shares i beg to differ join from 10,000 isk per share
Draylan Poltrin	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:14:00 - [38] Shares received, thanks. Originally by: Xi Xing From almost any player's point of view, 500,000 ISK is not a lot. I personally think you should have made it a little bit higher so there's more feeling of risk/reward. I can make more blowing up 1 serpentis BS than I will off this entire investment!! Well, just started so no chance of blowing up any battleships just yet, but recently received 144,000 ISK from killing bad guys in one mission from the epic story arc, and now receiving at least 200,000 ISK for completing each mission I will be rich soon Anyway, looking forward to experiencing another part of EVE (and not TOO overwhelming, yet...)
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:22:00 - [39] Originally by: Draylan Poltrin Shares received, thanks. Originally by: Xi Xing From almost any player's point of view, 500,000 ISK is not a lot. I personally think you should have made it a little bit higher so there's more feeling of risk/reward. I can make more blowing up 1 serpentis BS than I will off this entire investment!! Well, just started so no chance of blowing up any battleships just yet, but recently received 144,000 ISK from killing bad guys in one mission from the epic story arc, and now receiving at least 200,000 ISK for completing each mission I will be rich soon Anyway, looking forward to experiencing another part of EVE (and not TOO overwhelming, yet...) plus all you killilng and at the end you will be reciving over 1.2 million isk it is not a bad investment for you :) join from 10,000 isk per share
Nadezhda Andropov	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:43:00 - [40] Edited by: Nadezhda Andropov on 23/03/2009 15:43:03 Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious PONZI Fixed for you, you egregious muppet...even if you did mean for it to rhyme with "banzai" -----------------------------------------------
brutoid Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:50:00 - [41] Shares have been recieved, cheers! I for one appreciate your fun, non-elitest approach to this IPO. Looking forward to enjoying a part of Eve i've so far (due to funding and time played) only been able to read about. Good luck with your endeavour. brutoid.
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 16:41:00 - [42] Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 16:44:32 huh i under-estimated my entire IPO completly, i managed to make all the fun to clear all the shares with the daily dividends in just 2 hours =P trade goods rock :) what should i do since i am going to get way more profit than i though, shall i put a % on total profit and pay that in a final dividend payment =/ join from 10,000 isk per share
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.03.23 16:49:00 - [43] Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor Blueprint Store
Viktor Raybach	Posted - 2009.03.23 16:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 16:44:32 huh i under-estimated my entire IPO completly, i managed to make all the fun to clear all the shares with the daily dividends in just 2 hours =P trade goods rock :) what should i do since i am going to get way more profit than i though, shall i put a % on total profit and pay that in a final dividend payment =/ Personally, I'd rather see excess daily profits represented with an increased payout on the day in question so, assuming long-term future investments, I can track trends an so forth. But that's just my spreadsheet fondness, other people might prefer a larger lump sum at the end and the extra would cushion you against a bad day's trading.
Masque Blanc Small Gods	Posted - 2009.03.23 17:01:00 - [45] People invested in your projected return so as long as you return what you promised then you are fine. If you decide to give more than what you have promised then that is also good but you will not be thought any less if you don't. That said if you are looking to build a rep then returning more will no doubt build you a bigger rep. However you are trading very small amounts compared to most people in MD and there are huge % returns to be made at your level of market capitalisation. IMHO, it is not really surprising that you are making more than your projected returns so show us what you can do.
Masque Blanc Small Gods	Posted - 2009.03.23 17:06:00 - [46] Originally by: Brock Nelson Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor I would disagree, his IPO statement said Phase 3 - daily 15000isk dividends will be payed out per share He also set out the buy-back price. He is not legally required to give any additional profits to shareholders.
Xi Xing Gallente Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.23 17:08:00 - [47] I can't speak for my fellow shareholders, but I promise not to complain if you make more profits than previously estimated. Also, trade goods really aren't that great when push comes to shove. Player economy > NPC economy :)
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.03.23 17:21:00 - [48] Originally by: Masque Blanc Originally by: Brock Nelson Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor I would disagree, his IPO statement said Phase 3 - daily 15000isk dividends will be payed out per share He also set out the buy-back price. He is not legally required to give any additional profits to shareholders. Yes he is, you're confusing IPO and bonds. Bonds are interest paid out at fixed rate. IPO are interest paid out with whatever profit are made. Blueprint Store
Viktor Raybach	Posted - 2009.03.23 17:22:00 - [49] Edited by: Viktor Raybach on 23/03/2009 17:23:16 Originally by: Masque Blanc Originally by: Brock Nelson Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor I would disagree, his IPO statement said Phase 3 - daily 15000isk dividends will be payed out per share He also set out the buy-back price. He is not legally required to give any additional profits to shareholders. This one's odd in that it was an IPO with fixed interest returns, including a buyback more typical of bonds. Personally I'd like to see the increased returns as an indication of potential for the future from the OP but i'm not going to get overly upset if I don't.
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 17:57:00 - [50] Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 17:58:12 Originally by: Brock Nelson Originally by: Masque Blanc Originally by: Brock Nelson Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor I would disagree, his IPO statement said Phase 3 - daily 15000isk dividends will be payed out per share He also set out the buy-back price. He is not legally required to give any additional profits to shareholders. Yes he is, you're confusing IPO and bonds. Bonds are interest paid out at fixed rate. IPO are interest paid out with whatever profit are made. intrest is being paid with what is made that where the 15000 isk dividends are for but i mean if you want me to put a % instead of a fix sum to weather trading has been good or not then i am fine with that. remember that i wont be trading every day as i have work so if you want the 15% of nothing traded that day i think the fix sum with a final dividend % at the end would be more appropriate. I have decided i will be giving something extra to my investors for the profit i have made. i have not decided what this is but it will be something. I will argue with my calculator over it. the financial plan was laid out clearly way proir to the actual sales started, if you did not look through these and wish to buy out your shares please contact me in game and i will buy back your shares. or you could sale them to other people as they are your shares, i not mind either way the cap was for the inital purchase. so if you wish to go amonst yourselves for buying my shares please go ahead. join from 10,000 isk per share
Brock Nelson Caldari Flux Technologies Inc	Posted - 2009.03.23 18:14:00 - [51] Then like it or not, this is a bond, not IPO Blueprint Store
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 18:24:00 - [52] Originally by: Brock Nelson Then like it or not, this is a bond, not IPO just hold your horses i said i havnt decided yet, obvisouly if i give all the profits then it a IPO and it % then it a bond, just let me finish my consult ¼_¼ stop jumping at the deepend join from 10,000 isk per share
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 19:18:00 - [53] the plan has been changed and investors will get all the profits from the company as a share buy out. join from 10,000 isk per share
Kary Savage Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.23 19:53:00 - [54] 50 for Dark Soldat, isk sent (ingame from the character receiving shares)
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2009.03.23 19:54:00 - [55] Originally by: Brock Nelson Then like it or not, this is a bond, not IPO Brock is right. This is a Bond(debt) model and not a Share(equity) model. EBANK - Chairman of the Board \| www.eve-bank.net
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 20:05:00 - [56] Originally by: Kary Savage 50 for Dark Soldat, isk sent (ingame from the character receiving shares) share taking has finished todays dividend payment has been paid. join from 10,000 isk per share
Nif Makria Caldari Aquilan Federation	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:13:00 - [57] Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 20:25:02 Originally by: Kary Savage 50 for Dark Soldat, isk sent (ingame from the character receiving shares) share taking has finished todays dividend payment has been paid. also added trading report and todays end share value for the share holder to see there earning grow. Quote: Dividend payments made: 23rd march dividend payment paid out to investors End trade Report: 23rd march 2009 total corporation isk is 28,385,716.73 ISK profit margin is 18,385,716.73 ISK Current share buy out value is 28,385.71 ISK per share maximum shares value is 1,419,285.83 ISK I can confirm - shares received today and first daily pay out received. Be seeing you....
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:34:00 - [58] this perticular bond programme is being closed for something better, all profits which stood just over 20 million in profits made have been divided through the dividends system and requesting that you shares to be put back into Armoured C or Armoured Investments please. thank you for your time and sorry this bond is being closed prematurely. but you got lots more isk out of it so don't complain =P join from 10,000 isk per share
Marcus Insipidus	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:01:00 - [59] Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 23:35:25 Is requesting all it stocks back , final dividend payments have been made, and there are bigger plans afoot. all share holder got a juicy pay off for there bonds. Am I missing something, or was the entire term of this investment only 21 hours? If your "bigger plans" involve asking for bigger sums of money on some other project, your quick loss of interest on this one probably won't work in your favor. Its good that you paid out of course, and at a profit even, but the finished product did not resemble what you originally sold your investors.
Armoured C Gallente Armoured Investments	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:09:00 - [60] Edited by: Armoured C on 24/03/2009 00:11:12 Originally by: Marcus Insipidus Originally by: Armoured C Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 23:35:25 Is requesting all it stocks back , final dividend payments have been made, and there are bigger plans afoot. all share holder got a juicy pay off for there bonds. Am I missing something, or was the entire term of this investment only 21 hours? If your "bigger plans" involve asking for bigger sums of money on some other project, your quick loss of interest on this one probably won't work in your favor. Its good that you paid out of course, and at a profit even, but the finished product did not resemble what you originally sold your investors. considering i did the entire thing up side down and back to front what i thought initally what a IPO was not even close and actually turned out to be a bond which is not what i had in mind at all i can undertsnd how it looks but this wasnt done not even close to properly , it wont be for any more isk that i have stated that these will be small in size so that everyone can get in. just it need to be done properly, i am new here and mis understood some things, i am now on the right path and so need my shares back to be able to do so. i rather come up straight and say this isnt done properly than to tarnish my reputation and trust down the line but knowing is not right but continuing with it anyway. everything i have done i have kept it as open as possible. if someone wants to check over my wallet to ensure that i have only taking the profit from my shares in the bond they can if they want. i am all about the community and the community has say they like this , but i have to put my foot down and do it correctly other wise i am just making a mockery of the system that is in place and wont teach the new investors how it turly done and so might be giving long adverse judgments on future projects. i hope that the community can understand this P.S this will also include less use of the forums as im trying to cut down =/ it like a drug to me so give me time join from 10,000 isk per share

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