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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 02:05:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 02:17:22
Armoured Investments IPO Plan
ò Chapter 1 - Summary of Armoured Investments
ò Chapter 2 - Corporate Governance
ò Chapter 3 - The Business Plan
ò Chapter 4 - Full Disclosure of Risks
ò Chapter 5 - Exit Strategy
ò Chapter 6 - IPO Phases, Dividends, Market Cap
ò Chapter 7 - FAQ
Chapter 1 - Summary of Armoured Investments and it sub-corporations
Armoured Investments has been founded for living up the market and making it more fun. you can purchase cheap fun shares for something fun to do or for fun
learning into the market. i have been asked many questions like what the point, my point is that there any many huge IPO that require lots from the
player making the IPO to putting up large sums of isk into it taking maybe possibly large sums of your cash, which is good if it pays out but bad if it fails.
Armoured Investments are here for the simple reason, which is get everyone the right to invest. OK you might not make the billions of isk that could be made
but the investments are guaranteed since it is with trade good so there is pretty much these IPO's cant fail, and also it something to do in the mean time.
We are also stopping the reservation of shares from the rich, ALL of Armoured Investment shares will be based on a first come first serve basis. I and
Armoured Investments ( Armou ) is starting the revolution in the markets that the fat cat shares are now over and funcat takes over. Hopefully this will
encourage more newer people to start up very small IPOs and gain the necessary experience in the field before burning themselves out on tougher investments.
I don't see this as a IPO but more of a commitment to the marketing community, a commitment that no matter how much you have you can invest, make some isk
and generally get to know the community while you are at it.
There are no hidden catches and no hidden charges, everything is layed out clearly and if you
don't understand something i will do mu up most best to insure that it is understood. these IPO's are designed to be welcoming not confusing.
so pull up that leather chair light up a cigar as you are about to be come part of the new market revolution that everyone and anyone can become an investor
Chapter 2 - Corporate Governance
this IPO corp has it shares with the controlling part of the company to Armoured C and Armoured Industries will take the appropriate action
for the best outcome for the rest of the share holders. If you wish to discuss action about the corp you are free to convo Armoured C at any
giving time about any enquirers.
Armoured C is my main and his corporate history is :
Federal Navy Academy from 2006.11.16 23:56 to 2006.11.17 00:57
TerraNova Naval Academy (Closed) from 2006.11.17 00:57 to 2007.01.11 08:11
HAZMAT Industries (Closed) from 2007.01.11 08:11 to 2007.01.23 21:03
TerraNova Naval Academy (Closed) from 2007.01.23 21:03 to 2007.03.18 20:59
The Scope from 2007.03.18 20:59 to 2007.03.20 20:46
TerraNova Naval Academy (Closed) from 2007.03.20 20:46 to 2007.03.22 15:14
The Scope from 2007.03.22 15:14 to 2007.03.22 15:22
TerraNova Naval Academy (Closed) from 2007.03.22 15:22 to 2007.05.20 22:32
Warriors of Anubis from 2007.05.25 00:04 to 2007.05.27 20:11
The Scope from 2007.05.27 20:11 to 2007.05.27 20:12
Quantum Technologies INC. from 2007.05.27 20:12 to 2007.06.20 22:35
The Scope from 2007.06.20 22:35 to 2007.06.20 22:50
Warriors of Anubis from 2007.06.20 22:50 to 2007.07.22 00:30
The Scope from 2007.07.22 00:30 to 2007.07.22 00:51
Globaltech Industries from 2007.07.22 00:51 to 2007.09.17 22:52
Deviance Inc from 2007.09.17 22:52 to 2007.11.07 13:44
Mithril Lances from 2007.11.07 13:44 to 2007.11.21 15:04
Galatic Rekon And Warfare (Closed) from 2007.11.21 15:04 to 2007.11.23 16:53
The Scope from 2007.11.23 16:53 to 2007.11.23 18:55
Globaltech Industries from 2007.11.23 18:55 to 2008.06.11 00:15
Federal Defence Union from 2008.06.11 00:15 to 2008.06.27 23:37
The Scope from 2008.06.27 23:37 to 2008.06.28 20:49
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 02:05:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 02:18:20
The Scope from 2008.09.21 19:26 to 2008.09.21 21:07
Federation of Freedom Fighters from 2008.09.21 21:07 to this day
with none of the corporations was i leaving on bad terms.
all my alts are
Armoured Gamer ( mining and hauling alt )
GallenteCitzen20080615 (forum alt)
No one but me will have access to the isk that has been invested and/or profits.
Chapter 3 - The Business Plan
The business plan for Armoured Industries (Armou) is to haul trade good from a relatively cheap sell location and to transport them to a higher buy location
in the act of making profit. The most profitable jump will be calculated through isk profit made per jump and a profitable return journey to limit
deadheads ( being the act of empty cargo ) you investments will go towards the buying in bulk the trade good that i see fit as a profit margin and
the route i see fit with highest isk per jump ratio. the starship used for this will be a hauler class ship.
Chapter 4 - Full Disclosure of Risks
This IPO is a very low risk IPO as it does not in tale the need for guess work on how the market fluctuates. The buy order are set by NPC as well as
the sale orders.
only risk that can come about it if the hauler get suicide ganked, which is highly doubtful considering the cargo that will be carried is trade goods only
IF in such cases where the hauler is suicide ganked. Armoured Investments will replace the hauler, it fittings and cargo lost from private isk (Armoured C himself). this wont effect your rate
and/or investment in any way
Chapter 5 - Exit Strategy
the IPO will last for 7 days and at the end the shareholders will have there shares purchased back at 7500 isk
should the IPO fail Armoured Investments has over 100 million isk in personal isk ( character Armoured C ) and can cover the purchase of all shares of this IPO.
Chapter 6 - IPO Phases, Dividends, Market Cap < has been a mix up with the shares you will still get the rates below but the lack of shares in the corp means that instead of 2000 shares there will be only 1000>
This IPO will be running for 7 days .Share for this IPO are based on a first come, first serve basis. There will be a mailing list you can join up to before any more IPO's come out which is
on the mailing list as it called Armoured Investments
Report will be done after i have finished trading on that day and will be reported on the forums just before my next trading session.
Total Number of Shares
1000
public Shares Allocated for IPO
450
Price Per Share
10000
share cap per character is
50 shares ( 500,000 isk <half a million isk> ) <please be considerate to your other investors as they might want to invest to>
Dividend Schedule
daily
Total shares in value
10,000,000
Projected Return per Dividend Payment
1500 isk per share daily
share buyout at end of IPO
15000
the profit margin for this IPO will be as follows
1500 isk a day for 7 days
5000 isk profit on share price per share.
for maximum share holders ( 50 shares ):
end of week total dividends = 525000 isk ( 1500 x 7 )
share buy back = 750000
profit margin for IPO is 775,000
and total isk returned is 1,275,000 isk.
starting isk IPO is = 10,000,000 isk
finishing IPO isk hand out = 25,500,000 isk
IPO offering will consist of 4 phases
Phase 1 - people that have placed a interest in investing in this IPO have been contacted through the Armoured Investments mailing list
Phase 2 - Shares are sold to the public
Phase 3 - daily 15000isk dividends will be payed out per share
Phase 4 - End of IPO your last dividend paid out and all shares are bought back
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 02:18:56
Chapter 7 - FAQ
Q: How do I know this isn't a scam?
A: This isn't a scam as my main Armoured C has over 100 million in his wallet, if i was going to scam i would of asked for more isk, this is a fun project
for me which involves low risk for you. all this is a bit of fun for me to learn about the mechanic of the corps properly, to install trust in the MD forum
and to make small amounts of isk. For the short term future there will be many of these small IPO's coming from Armoured Investments. I am open to audit
suggestions and been active on the forums for 2 years.
Q: How do you know you'll be successful?
A: i am trading with trade goods there is little to no risk in this, so the success rate is pretty much 100%
Q: Why are you doing this?
A: to get more people into IPO's for fun and to install more life into the MD forums as i seem rather dead at the moment. I will be running more short IPO
doing the same thing on a regular basis while i watch the markets for potential trade routes for player manufactured goods.
Q: Do you intend to have an audit done at some point?
A: not with this IPO unless it is requested but at this small point in time the player requesting it would have to incur the costs, but i will agree to one
if this is the case
Q: What's your background?
A: mainly a industry background for 2 years with mining and gas harvesting and for the last year or so have been PVP'ing in 0.0 no manufactured good trading
experience at all which is why i am sticking to trade goods for the time being
Q: Will you ever buy back shares?
A: as stated above shares will be bought back before the corp is closed at 7500isk a share
Q: Will you ever pay over 5% dividends?
A: stated above divided will be daily at 15% with is 750isk a share per day
Q: What if someone War Decs Armoured Investments?
A: If Armoured Investments become a target for war dec and that i am un able to trade because of it, a notice will go up on Market Discussions forum and all share holders
will be paid the full dividends and have there shares brought back at the agreed 15000 end buy out price
Q: Can you be contacted about anything to do with you IPO's or any further information
A: Yes you can contact me ingame on Armoured C, by msn : [email protected] or email me at:
[email protected]
Q: do you work for a living
A: yes i do work part time in a shop so i wont be trading all the time and dividend payment will be on time to the best of my ability.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 02:20:04
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 02:08:16
apologies with the text format the copy and paste didnt seem to work very well from note pad,
shares will be first come first serve at 12 mid-day 23rd march 2009
if you dont make the shares cut please still paste you intrest so that i can further function more shares for future IPO's
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 02:10:00 -
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< reserved >
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2009.03.23 02:24:00 -
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You have now started 4 threads about your IPO in less than 3 days not to mention made some 52 posts in MD in the same time.
I know you're new around here but this has reached the level of spam, something that isn't tolerated. Not from Kwint Industries, not from EBANK and not from you. Stop creating new threads about your IPO or you will be reported.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 02:41:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 02:46:24
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 02:44:58
 Originally by: Kwint Sommer
You have now started 4 threads about your IPO in less than 3 days not to mention made some 52 posts in MD in the same time.
I know you're new around here but this has reached the level of spam, something that isn't tolerated. Not from Kwint Industries, not from EBANK and not from you. Stop creating new threads about your IPO or you will be reported.
for a market discussion forumi thought you would be able to count at least 
discussion: an act or instance of discussing; consideration or examination by argument, comment, etc., esp. to explore solutions; informal debate.
i hardly fail to see how 1 thread about my up coming IPO and 1 thread about the IPO itself where people will ask for shares is considered spamming the forums.
Just because what you see isn't relevant to you does not mean that this is spamming. Please only speak on behalf of yourself as you do not speak for the rest of the community. You may report me if you like but i have done nothing wrong, i have been in these forums for 2 years and have only received 1 warning for content in one post during that time.
you my dear sir are suffering from a dying age of bores, No one said you had to click this thread, you chose to do so at your own will, it clearly stated at the top of this thread this is a IPO investment thread.
If you wish to talk about my IPO which has been stated above please feel free to do so, if you wish to insult , be-little or tell me what i can or can not do or talk about my forum posting abilities please do so in another thread of head to general discussion forum as that type of post is not welcome in this thread.
good day to you sir
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2009.03.23 03:15:00 -
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Duplicated thread.
Locked.
Applebabe
Community Representative
CCP Games, EVE Online
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Ji Sama
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Posted - 2009.03.23 05:03:00 -
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ive send you 500K already... sign me up....
"the majority of men has been dealt cards to a game they do not know how to play"
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Kahetha
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Posted - 2009.03.23 08:21:00 -
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isk sent 50 shares
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Salzar Merk
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Posted - 2009.03.23 08:32:00 -
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I seek to make a partial purchase of your venture. I will speak with you in game.
MERK
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Kithran
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Posted - 2009.03.23 08:56:00 -
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I've signed up for the ingame mailing list and would be interested in buying 500,000 isk of shares however I won't be able to log in to Eve until about 5.30 eve time. Can I order shares now and send the isk then?
Cheers
Kithran
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Nif Makria
Caldari
Aquilan Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.23 11:20:00 -
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I would be interested in buying 500,000 isk of shares however I won't be able to log in to Eve until about 1800hrs eve time. Can I order shares now and send the isk then?
Cheers
Nif
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spitfire62
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Posted - 2009.03.23 11:31:00 -
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interested in 50 shares isk will be sent after downtime.
thanks
spitfire62
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xEllinx
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Posted - 2009.03.23 11:45:00 -
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will send isk for 50 shares after dt
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Draylan Poltrin
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: Draylan Poltrin on 23/03/2009 12:02:33
500,000 ISK sent to Armoured C for 50 shares please.
Thanks. 
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:05:00 -
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ISK sent. 50 shares please.....
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Mama Pacha
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:07:00 -
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I'll take 50 shares please - isk will be sent shortly.
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Oyraa
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:11:00 -
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50 Shares here please.
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xEllinx
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:13:00 -
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money sent 50 shares please
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Ms Delerium on 23/03/2009 12:13:29
42 shares here, money sent 
the "weird" number is intended, to make it more interesting haha.
Good luck.
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: brutoid on 23/03/2009 12:15:11
Originally by: Ms Delerium
Edited by: Ms Delerium on 23/03/2009 12:13:29
42 shares here, money sent
the "weird" number is intended, to make it more interesting haha.
Good luck.
"share cap per character is
50 shares ( 500,000 isk <half a million isk> ) <please be considerate to your other investors as they might want to invest to>"
You saw then!
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.03.23 12:36:00 -
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yup, its because the old thread said "5000 isk per share and 100 shares limit" and I went for it haha.
may I say, TLDR, which is one of the problems of some BP. Must be short and attractive. If this was "serious business" (billions) people would obviously read it all and probably want more. But for charge money, we just trust you :D
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Xi Xing
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:04:00 -
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50 shares please - ISK to be sent in the next 10 mins. |
Viktor Raybach
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:11:00 -
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50 shares please, Isk sent |
Collector Jim
Gallente
Tempestas Palaestra Academy
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:43:00 -
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Unfortunately you sent out your in game mail when I'm not online. If its not too late I would like 50 shares as well. I will be in game 3/23/09 around 5pm MTN to send the ISK if there are still shares available. (I think that is GMT -6)
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Nif Makria
Caldari
Aquilan Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:48:00 -
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can we get an update from the OP - on who is in ?
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:48:00 -
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i have been sent WAY WAY WAY to much isk =P
people that requested shares after 1200 mid day today will be allocated shares.
i am still in the middle of the sifting process to figure out who need there is back. you shares will be deposited or if you have sent me isk in correctly you isk will be refunded.
share holder information will be updated shortly.
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Nif Makria
Caldari
Aquilan Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.23 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
i have been sent WAY WAY WAY to much isk =P
im guessing if he was a scammer - he wouldnt admit this.
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Viktor Raybach
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:19:00 -
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Shares received.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 14:15:02
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 14:00:33
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 02:52:45
Current share holders :
Armoured C - 500 shares (isk in) <shares sent>
Chribba - 50 shares - (isk in) <shares sent>
Draylan Poltrin - 50 (isk in) <shares sent>
brutoid - 50 (isk in) <shares sent>
Mama Pacha - 50 (isk in) <shares sent>
Oyraa - 50 (isk in) <shares sent>
xEllinx - 50 (isk in) <shares sent>
Ms Delerium - 42 (iisk in) <shares sent>
Xi Xing - 50 (isk in) <shares sent>
Viktor Raybach - 50 (isk in) <shares sent>
spitfire62 - 50 (isk in) <shares sent>
Nif Makria - 8 (isk in and refunded) <shares sent>
current shares holder are stated above
if you did not cut the grade i am sorry but my rule of no fat cat reservations means it only first come first serve with this corporation and any of my businesses. If you have sent me isk and did not make the cut it has been refunded to you. all iskies are being put into the corperation as we speak and i guess you will get you first dividends tomorrow.
thank you for all your intrest in Armou and there will be many many more investment going into the market. so if you didnt make it this time there will be more oppertunities. Personal thank for ms delerium for not buying the full aloocated shares to allow one more person to be put into the share holder group.
Thank you so much
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Aeragogos Orycheious
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:20:00 -
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Ponzai!
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious
Ponzai!
your opinions don't matter here.
Quote:
may I say, TLDR, which is one of the problems of some BP. Must be short and attractive. If this was "serious business" (billions) people would obviously read it all and probably want more. But for charge money, we just trust you :D
this is a serious business, it doesnt have to be worth billion for it to be considered serious. as i am seriously trying to change the face of public IPO's
these new miniIPO's are what i believe to be what the doctor ordered :) fun simple shares.
i better start hauling A$$ and making you guys some iskies
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Xi Xing
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.23 14:45:00 -
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Excellent news, thanks AC
From almost any player's point of view, 500,000 ISK is not a lot. I personally think you should have made it a little bit higher so there's more feeling of risk/reward. I can make more blowing up 1 serpentis BS than I will off this entire investment!!
However, it's fun to see how this works and help a player set up their first miniIPO, and I look forward to seeing the profits from it.
Also, hopefully you will be successful and I will be a preferred investor for your next round!
Good luck and I look forward to reciving my ISK :)
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 15:12:07
the risk vs reward of this investment is virtually nill considering it only trade good, right at this second i am moving construction blocks and have made enough for tomorrows dividend payment.
it is good to hear that you will become a future investor, now i got to go haul some stuff 
this venture is not for the money it for the fun in shares, although you do make money through it.
that is what my entire premise of my business is about , bringing some fun back
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Aeragogos Orycheious
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Posted - 2009.03.23 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious
Ponzai!
your opinions don't matter here.
Quote:
may I say, TLDR, which is one of the problems of some BP. Must be short and attractive. If this was "serious business" (billions) people would obviously read it all and probably want more. But for charge money, we just trust you :D
this is a serious business, it doesnt have to be worth billion for it to be considered serious. as i am seriously trying to change the face of public IPO's
these new miniIPO's are what i believe to be what the doctor ordered :) fun simple shares.
i better start hauling A$$ and making you guys some iskies
Here? you mean this fake / virtual forum board.. Oh no I am hurt.
btw. you don't matter anywhere.
PONZAI!
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 15:14:00 -
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for the amount of isk i was given over for people grabbing at these shares i beg to differ
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Draylan Poltrin
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Posted - 2009.03.23 15:14:00 -
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Shares received, thanks.
Originally by: Xi Xing
From almost any player's point of view, 500,000 ISK is not a lot. I personally think you should have made it a little bit higher so there's more feeling of risk/reward. I can make more blowing up 1 serpentis BS than I will off this entire investment!!
Well, just started so no chance of blowing up any battleships just yet, but recently received 144,000 ISK from killing bad guys in one mission from the epic story arc, and now receiving at least 200,000 ISK for completing each mission 
I will be rich soon 
Anyway, looking forward to experiencing another part of EVE (and not TOO overwhelming, yet...) 
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Draylan Poltrin
Shares received, thanks.
Originally by: Xi Xing
From almost any player's point of view, 500,000 ISK is not a lot. I personally think you should have made it a little bit higher so there's more feeling of risk/reward. I can make more blowing up 1 serpentis BS than I will off this entire investment!!
Well, just started so no chance of blowing up any battleships just yet, but recently received 144,000 ISK from killing bad guys in one mission from the epic story arc, and now receiving at least 200,000 ISK for completing each mission
I will be rich soon
Anyway, looking forward to experiencing another part of EVE (and not TOO overwhelming, yet...)
plus all you killilng and at the end you will be reciving over 1.2 million isk it is not a bad investment for you :)
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Nadezhda Andropov
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Posted - 2009.03.23 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nadezhda Andropov on 23/03/2009 15:43:03
Originally by: Aeragogos Orycheious
PONZI
Fixed for you, you egregious muppet...even if you did mean for it to rhyme with "banzai" 
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.23 15:50:00 -
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Shares have been recieved, cheers!
I for one appreciate your fun, non-elitest approach to this IPO. Looking forward to enjoying a part of Eve i've so far (due to funding and time played) only been able to read about.
Good luck with your endeavour.
brutoid.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 16:41:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 16:44:32
huh i under-estimated my entire IPO completly, i managed to make all the fun to clear all the shares with the daily dividends in just 2 hours =P
trade goods rock :)
what should i do since i am going to get way more profit than i though, shall i put a % on total profit and pay that in a final dividend payment =/
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.23 16:49:00 -
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Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor
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Viktor Raybach
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Posted - 2009.03.23 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 16:44:32
huh i under-estimated my entire IPO completly, i managed to make all the fun to clear all the shares with the daily dividends in just 2 hours =P
trade goods rock :)
what should i do since i am going to get way more profit than i though, shall i put a % on total profit and pay that in a final dividend payment =/
Personally, I'd rather see excess daily profits represented with an increased payout on the day in question so, assuming long-term future investments, I can track trends an so forth. But that's just my spreadsheet fondness, other people might prefer a larger lump sum at the end and the extra would cushion you against a bad day's trading.
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Masque Blanc
Small Gods
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Posted - 2009.03.23 17:01:00 -
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People invested in your projected return so as long as you return what you promised then you are fine.
If you decide to give more than what you have promised then that is also good but you will not be thought any less if you don't.
That said if you are looking to build a rep then returning more will no doubt build you a bigger rep.
However you are trading very small amounts compared to most people in MD and there are huge % returns to be made at your level of market capitalisation. IMHO, it is not really surprising that you are making more than your projected returns so show us what you can do.
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Masque Blanc
Small Gods
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Posted - 2009.03.23 17:06:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor
I would disagree, his IPO statement said
Phase 3 - daily 15000isk dividends will be payed out per share
He also set out the buy-back price.
He is not legally required to give any additional profits to shareholders.
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Xi Xing
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.23 17:08:00 -
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I can't speak for my fellow shareholders, but I promise not to complain if you make more profits than previously estimated.
Also, trade goods really aren't that great when push comes to shove. Player economy > NPC economy
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.23 17:21:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Masque Blanc
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor
I would disagree, his IPO statement said
Phase 3 - daily 15000isk dividends will be payed out per share
He also set out the buy-back price.
He is not legally required to give any additional profits to shareholders.
Yes he is, you're confusing IPO and bonds. Bonds are interest paid out at fixed rate. IPO are interest paid out with whatever profit are made.
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Viktor Raybach
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Posted - 2009.03.23 17:22:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Viktor Raybach on 23/03/2009 17:23:16
Originally by: Masque Blanc
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor
I would disagree, his IPO statement said
Phase 3 - daily 15000isk dividends will be payed out per share
He also set out the buy-back price.
He is not legally required to give any additional profits to shareholders.
This one's odd in that it was an IPO with fixed interest returns, including a buyback more typical of bonds. Personally I'd like to see the increased returns as an indication of potential for the future from the OP but i'm not going to get overly upset if I don't.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 17:57:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 17:58:12
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Originally by: Masque Blanc
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Any profit you make regardless belongs to your investor
I would disagree, his IPO statement said
Phase 3 - daily 15000isk dividends will be payed out per share
He also set out the buy-back price.
He is not legally required to give any additional profits to shareholders.
Yes he is, you're confusing IPO and bonds. Bonds are interest paid out at fixed rate. IPO are interest paid out with whatever profit are made.
intrest is being paid with what is made that where the 15000 isk dividends are for but i mean if you want me to put a % instead of a fix sum to weather trading has been good or not then i am fine with that. remember that i wont be trading every day as i have work so if you want the 15% of nothing traded that day i think the fix sum with a final dividend % at the end would be more appropriate.
I have decided i will be giving something extra to my investors for the profit i have made. i have not decided what this is but it will be something. I will argue with my calculator over it.
the financial plan was laid out clearly way proir to the actual sales started, if you did not look through these and wish to buy out your shares please contact me in game and i will buy back your shares. or you could sale them to other people as they are your shares, i not mind either way the cap was for the inital purchase. so if you wish to go amonst yourselves for buying my shares please go ahead.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari
Flux Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.23 18:14:00 -
[51]
Then like it or not, this is a bond, not IPO
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 18:24:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Then like it or not, this is a bond, not IPO
just hold your horses i said i havnt decided yet, obvisouly if i give all the profits then it a IPO and it % then it a bond, just let me finish my consult ¼_¼
stop jumping at the deepend
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:18:00 -
[53]
the plan has been changed and investors will get all the profits from the company as a share buy out.
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Kary Savage
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:53:00 -
[54]
50 for Dark Soldat, isk sent (ingame from the character receiving shares)
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.23 19:54:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Brock Nelson
Then like it or not, this is a bond, not IPO
Brock is right. This is a Bond(debt) model and not a Share(equity) model.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 20:05:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Kary Savage
50 for Dark Soldat, isk sent (ingame from the character receiving shares)
share taking has finished
todays dividend payment has been paid.
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Nif Makria
Caldari
Aquilan Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.23 23:13:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Armoured C
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 20:25:02
Originally by: Kary Savage
50 for Dark Soldat, isk sent (ingame from the character receiving shares)
share taking has finished
todays dividend payment has been paid.
also added trading report and todays end share value
for the share holder to see there earning grow.
Quote:
Dividend payments made:
23rd march dividend payment paid out to investors
End trade Report:
23rd march 2009
total corporation isk is 28,385,716.73 ISK
profit margin is 18,385,716.73 ISK
Current share buy out value is 28,385.71 ISK per share
maximum shares value is 1,419,285.83 ISK
I can confirm - shares received today and first daily pay out received.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.23 23:34:00 -
[58]
this perticular bond programme is being closed for something better,
all profits which stood just over 20 million in profits made have been divided through the dividends system and requesting that you shares to be put back into Armoured C or Armoured Investments please.
thank you for your time and sorry this bond is being closed prematurely. but you got lots more isk out of it so don't complain =P
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Marcus Insipidus
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Posted - 2009.03.24 00:01:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Armoured C
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 23:35:25
Is requesting all it stocks back , final dividend payments have been made, and there are bigger plans afoot.
all share holder got a juicy pay off for there bonds.
Am I missing something, or was the entire term of this investment only 21 hours?
If your "bigger plans" involve asking for bigger sums of money on some other project, your quick loss of interest on this one probably won't work in your favor. Its good that you paid out of course, and at a profit even, but the finished product did not resemble what you originally sold your investors.
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.24 00:09:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Armoured C on 24/03/2009 00:11:12
Originally by: Marcus Insipidus
Originally by: Armoured C
Edited by: Armoured C on 23/03/2009 23:35:25
Is requesting all it stocks back , final dividend payments have been made, and there are bigger plans afoot.
all share holder got a juicy pay off for there bonds.
Am I missing something, or was the entire term of this investment only 21 hours?
If your "bigger plans" involve asking for bigger sums of money on some other project, your quick loss of interest on this one probably won't work in your favor. Its good that you paid out of course, and at a profit even, but the finished product did not resemble what you originally sold your investors.
considering i did the entire thing up side down and back to front what i thought initally what a IPO was not even close and actually turned out to be a bond which is not what i had in mind at all
i can undertsnd how it looks but this wasnt done not even close to properly , it wont be for any more isk that i have stated that these will be small in size so that everyone can get in. just it need to be done properly, i am new here and mis understood some things, i am now on the right path and so need my shares back to be able to do so.
i rather come up straight and say this isnt done properly than to tarnish my reputation and trust down the line but knowing is not right but continuing with it anyway.
everything i have done i have kept it as open as possible. if someone wants to check over my wallet to ensure that i have only taking the profit from my shares in the bond they can if they want.
i am all about the community and the community has say they like this , but i have to put my foot down and do it correctly other wise i am just making a mockery of the system that is in place and wont teach the new investors how it turly done and so might be giving long adverse judgments on future projects.
i hope that the community can understand this
P.S this will also include less use of the forums as im trying to cut down =/ it like a drug to me so give me time
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Draylan Poltrin
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Posted - 2009.03.24 00:20:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Armoured C
share holders payments :
total isk sent out 30,706,967.00 ISK
30,706 ISK sent per share
initial investment per share
10,000 isk per share
Draylan Poltrin - 50 - 1,535,348 ISK sent
Confirming receipt of this money (and have returned the shares). Also received a 75,000 ISK dividend payment earlier
So 1,610,348.35 in total, from a 500,000 ISK investment
Originally by: Marcus Insipidus
Am I missing something, or was the entire term of this investment only 21 hours?
If your "bigger plans" involve asking for bigger sums of money on some other project, your quick loss of interest on this one probably won't work in your favor. Its good that you paid out of course, and at a profit even, but the finished product did not resemble what you originally sold your investors.
Well, it was explained at the start as a fun trial, and I think (hope?) that Armoured C has learnt a lot from it.
I enjoyed the experience (and the ISKies) and as I feel that even though the product I invested in was not what I received (I got more ) Armoured C has gained my "investor's favour".
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Marcus Insipidus
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Posted - 2009.03.24 00:36:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Draylan Poltrin
Armoured C has gained my "investor's favour".
I realize that this was almost certainly run as a fun exercise, and that Armoured C is probably entirely above-board.
I just offer a little word of caution that Reithe gained "investor's favour" in precisely this same way. He paid out dividends as promised, then repackaged and resold his offering for much larger sums just prior to scamming this community for billions.
I'm not saying Armoured C is untrustworthy. I'd judge his next plan on its merits, and invest if you ultimately think its a good idea. But I wouldn't sell my investor's favour quite so cheaply.
Cynical, yes. Getting ripped off makes you that way, and you WILL eventually get ripped off by someone you trust in these forums.
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brutoid
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.24 01:01:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Draylan Poltrin
Confirming receipt of this money (and have returned the shares). Also received a 75,000 ISK dividend payment earlier
So 1,610,348.35 in total, from a 500,000 ISK investment
Can confirm as above.
I'd like to just say that as a noob, its been an enjoyable and (for me) a highly profitable investment and one i'd snap up again.
Looking forward to the next one.
brutoid.
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.03.24 01:06:00 -
[64]
Sure this has been an awesome investment. I mean its near a +200% interest.
Problem is, imo, you cant guarantee a +200% forever. And being honest what you did is just like sharing your personal gaming efforts and profits like you are a NGO
Funny how my weird number of shares allowed another dude to get 8 shares haha 
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Viktor Raybach
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Posted - 2009.03.24 01:29:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Marcus Insipidus
I realize that this was almost certainly run as a fun exercise, and that Armoured C is probably entirely above-board.
I just offer a little word of caution that Reithe gained "investor's favour" in precisely this same way. He paid out dividends as promised, then repackaged and resold his offering for much larger sums just prior to scamming this community for billions.
I'm not saying Armoured C is untrustworthy. I'd judge his next plan on its merits, and invest if you ultimately think its a good idea. But I wouldn't sell my investor's favour quite so cheaply.
Cynical, yes. Getting ripped off makes you that way, and you WILL eventually get ripped off by someone you trust in these forums.
Chatting to him he comes across as enthusiastic but uninformed on the shares/bonds side of things. Albeit that rate of return in such a short time is surprising but not impossible and, unfortunately, probably not that sustainable to higher rates of investment.
That doesn't in any way mean it's not a long-term scheme to build trust. But given he's repeatedly said that when he does a 'proper' IPO he wants it to still be a small amount of money I'm not sure the scam would be all that big if it did happen (reserving the right to cry scam if he does a 1 billion isk IPO in a week).
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.24 01:36:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Viktor Raybach
Originally by: Marcus Insipidus
I realize that this was almost certainly run as a fun exercise, and that Armoured C is probably entirely above-board.
I just offer a little word of caution that Reithe gained "investor's favour" in precisely this same way. He paid out dividends as promised, then repackaged and resold his offering for much larger sums just prior to scamming this community for billions.
I'm not saying Armoured C is untrustworthy. I'd judge his next plan on its merits, and invest if you ultimately think its a good idea. But I wouldn't sell my investor's favour quite so cheaply.
Cynical, yes. Getting ripped off makes you that way, and you WILL eventually get ripped off by someone you trust in these forums.
Chatting to him he comes across as enthusiastic but uninformed on the shares/bonds side of things. Albeit that rate of return in such a short time is surprising but not impossible and, unfortunately, probably not that sustainable to higher rates of investment.
That doesn't in any way mean it's not a long-term scheme to build trust. But given he's repeatedly said that when he does a 'proper' IPO he wants it to still be a small amount of money I'm not sure the scam would be all that big if it did happen (reserving the right to cry scam if he does a 1 billion isk IPO in a week).
can i haz 2 billion
no i like things small , small means less fuss ( at least that what i like to hope) also small means anyone can get in on it which is my ultimate goal is to have something on the stock eschange that anyone can get in on.
poor victor
i have been badgering him for a good hour of how many way i can get on the exchange with me trading quafe and siliate glass trade good but also setting up so that when i do decide to jump in the market i can do that while my company is in the exchange.
i eventually gave up and admitted that i would have to do more bonds first. so no exchange yet. 
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.03.24 09:13:00 -
[67]
Just to clarify as I've been asked the question a few times;
have I invested? Yes, but only because I wanted a few shares of the "Armoured C"-legacy, I didn't even check into the whole IPO thingy because I was interested with any profits or similar. Purely bought shares because of the "cool" factor of the OP.
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spitfire62
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Posted - 2009.03.24 10:05:00 -
[68]
Shares returned as requested with huge thanks.
Look forward to trading with you again sometime in the future.
thanks spitfire62
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.24 12:42:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Chribba
Just to clarify as I've been asked the question a few times;
have I invested? Yes, but only because I wanted a few shares of the "Armoured C"-legacy, I didn't even check into the whole IPO thingy because I was interested with any profits or similar. Purely bought shares because of the "cool" factor of the OP.
there you have it
i am cool
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