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Absalom Marathon
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.03.25 07:48:00 -
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Rapiers are still viable in cruisergangs, just not king of the hill any more.
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SoD EnGun
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.03.25 09:46:00 -
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 Originally by: Kronos Hopeslayer
Interceptors have no fear what so ever of the Huginn, or the Rapier now, and Vagas aren't too bothered as well since they can burn through the tank long before the Huginn's DPS makes a dent in the cookie cutter 2 LSE II Vaga.
What? You can't kill HACs with recons anymore?? I demand justice !!!
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Parsival
Minmatar
The Avalon Foundation
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Posted - 2009.03.25 10:32:00 -
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Webs are really horrible now. I've been working around them, but the truth is the Matari recon has lost its role in PvP and there are better choices to take in a gang. Curse or 'zu are much better.
A Huginn partnering a torp Raven would still be reasonable with TP's though.
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Veryez
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:00:00 -
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Couldn't tell you, I stopped flying mine. I guess I could put TP's on them, but I don't fly with many torp gangs....
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:05:00 -
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Hardly seen one since the web nerf.
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Theron Gyrow
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
A big nerf to Rapiers is the amount of people flying zealots.
While zealots are fodder to a Falcon/Curse a Rapier either leaves quietly or it's a killmail waiting to happen.
Unless he fits faction webs that is.
Zealot is lunch. (Every self-respecting Huginn/Rapier pilot should fit a TD.)
I still fly mine regularly and like it quite a bit. It's not as good preventing people from burning back at gates/docking range as it was, but otherwise it's still fine.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:21:00 -
[37]
only seen a paint-rapier with rage-ravens the other day.
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Eric Yu
Reikoku
Band of Brothers Reloaded
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Eric Yu on 25/03/2009 13:33:50
still waiting for pilgrim range buff. and ofc it seems its pretty useless in fleets atm.
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Blackguard Coalition
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:10:00 -
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I can't resist posting to say "Hi!" to Eric Yu and Parsival. Hi guys, it's good to see you both still floating around Eve. (Eric, you may not remember *this* character, but was in SUME with you for a while).
o7
-Liang
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Zaran Darkstar
Divine Slaves
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:27:00 -
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I think things would improve for Rapier if CCP would change the bonus to what it is now + 7,5% per HAC level to web stregth. |
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Traidor Disloyal
Minmatar
Private Nuisance
Band of Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kronos Hopeslayer
I'm cross training to amarr now. Curses and Zealots are where it's at.
I did this months ago. Not because of what CCP did to the Minnie Recons but because of what CCP does to everything that it thinks needs to be "adjusted". I could care less about what ship is FOTM. All I know is that between my two combat characters I can fly em all (Battleships and smaller).
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I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |
Cletus Graeme
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 25/03/2009 17:52:59
The Matari Recons are still very useful in small gang PvP where each member of the gang needs to be able to tackle, tank and do damage.
Sadly, their use in fleet combat is now limited to killing enemy tacklers and chasing off the more useful Caldari Recons (i.e. Falcons).
However, as long as they remain good at killing interceptors/dictors/assault ships both Rapiers and Huginns will have a useful role in any gang.
When all PvP situations are taken into consideration, I consider Matari Recons to be the second most useful Recons in game after Caldari Recons.
Amarr and Gallente Recons are both very useful in small gangs but almost completely useless in fleet so they're less useful overall in PvP.
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