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Master Arrow Trinity Capital Endeavors Incorporated	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:41:00 - [631] Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Oh please, get a life. Although I think BoB should pay CCP 1billion isk, this is not game breaking. It was because of you jerks that they had to do this in the first place. Get over it. CCP did it, it is THEIR game. NOT YOURS. --Isaac You dont know what you are talking about, they lost their alliance due to espionage...which has been a favored tactic by BoB themselves. And everything they have done to other alliances has been "outside of CCP's involvement and within the rules" but yet it gets done to them and all is reversed...That's BS!!
Dianeces The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:42:00 - [632] Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Oh and BTW: There is no rule that doesn't allow the renaming of an alliance. Show me the proof if there is this supposed rule. --Isaac Look how dumb you are~ Quote: a. If a name is deemed inappropriate, GMÆs may be able to change the characterÆs name in some circumstances. This is solely at the discretion of CCP and/or its representatives based on, but not limited to, account and player history and the severity of the violation. There is no guarantee that the name will be changed. Only character names that are deemed as inappropriate are eligible for a possible name change. Names will not be changed for any other reason. Source
gnshadowninja Caldari Baptism oF Fire Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:42:00 - [633] Check SirMolle ingame, its been renamed back to kenny.
Lilem Aredeis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:43:00 - [634] Edited by: Lilem Aredeis on 24/03/2009 01:43:39 Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Oh and BTW: There is no rule that doesn't allow the renaming of an alliance. Show me the proof if there is this supposed rule. --Isaac There isn't, but to rename your alliance you have to disband it and start a new one. Therefore you must pay the fees and lose sov over whatever systems you have, something BoB didn't have to do.
Zeturi 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:45:00 - [635]
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:45:00 - [636] Edited by: Le Skunk on 24/03/2009 01:47:11 Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Originally by: Le Skunk In the light of CCPs conduct in the past - CCP needs to be interrogated over this The members of staff involved in the name change traced - and their actions audited The methods used by ex BOB to contact these members of staff identified (to assure correct channel were used) As such im giving this my nominal support - although it is possible CCP acted in good faith SKUNK Freak out much? This is ridiculous. Its an internet spaceship game. Not real life. Get over yourself. --Isaac Thank you for your comments. I refer you to the quote from the new york times - from Hilmar Peterson - CCP Chief executive Quote: ôI envision this council being made up of nine members selected by the players themselves, where you announce your candidacy, and if you win the election, they come here to Iceland, and they can look at every nook and cranny and get to see that we are here to run this company on a professional basis,ö said Mr. Petursson, CCPÆs chief executive. ôThey can see that we did not make this game to win it.ö It is indeed internet spaceships, but its internet spaceships with a player council originally designed to deal with CCP corruption. Indeed, a member of staff is employed by CCP solely to ensure this is the case. The OP has suggested the decisions made were not professional - and he has a great deal of support. As such I believe my post and support for the OP was in order. SKUNK (o)
Master Arrow Trinity Capital Endeavors Incorporated	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:47:00 - [637] Originally by: Da Maddness In follow up from my support which is lost in this thread somewhere I must say this saddens me greatly. I have many a friend interested in MMOs and I would love to be able to show them the joys of Eve but time and time again I get told "But if the Devs favour a specific group, whats the point?" They rightly ask. My reply is that it's rare and should never happen again. Sadly you have proven me wrong. You guy have made a work of art in Eve. You allow scams, you have a player diven economy and the pollitical landscape is decided by players. Now, there is no way I would say that the person who have made this great game should not enjoy it themselves, IMO thats just silly to suggest that. However it is obvious that some people in power have a vested interest in a specific group. I love Eve but why allow people in your company to damage the reputation of such a great game? Why risk players over such a simple thing as a name change? This is an excellent post...I wonder if all those gaming magazines and credited critics that gave great reviews would still consider this the high profile player driven game that they think it is, if they knew that CCP gives preferencial treatment to a specific alliance and has done so many times. CCP why dont you consider the game to move along the way it should move by letting BoB deal with the same crap they have dealt out and not giving them the upper hand by having you to fall back on?
Isaac Starstriker Amarr Golden Cross Enterprises	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:49:00 - [638] Originally by: Lilem Aredeis Edited by: Lilem Aredeis on 24/03/2009 01:43:39 Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Oh and BTW: There is no rule that doesn't allow the renaming of an alliance. Show me the proof if there is this supposed rule. --Isaac There isn't, but to rename your alliance you have to disband it and start a new one. Therefore you must pay the fees and lose sov over whatever systems you have, something BoB didn't have to do. I seriously wonder if anyone besides BoB has asked CCP to change their alliance name.... Makes you wonder. --Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
Zyanya Chor'gall hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:50:00 - [639]
CaptainSensible Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:51:00 - [640]

Eg0n	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:51:00 - [641] CCP really needs to stop this favoritism. Despite their lack of transparency, it is obvious that the devs at the very least bend -- if not break -- the rules whenever they think they can get away with it. The whole mention of the "bat phone" in the leaked IRC chats posted after BoB was disbanded pretty much solidifies the accusation of dev assistance to Bob... (Not that more evidence was really needed from past blunders.) This latest act by CCP puts another bad mark on a wonderful game. I haven't read the article yet about Eve being one of the top 5 most important MMOs... but I hope it is amended to show how dev collusion with the player base is rampant in the game and should be unacceptable in this environment. To clear this up, CCP needs to correct the mistake (ie. disband BoBR) and let them create a new alliance under the proper terms. They also need to discipline the employees responsible for basically giving the finger to the rest of the player base. I suggest locking them in a room stuck listening to Bjork's full catalog and see who eats who first. Those left alive will then be forced to play WoW.
SFShootme Reikoku Band of Brothers Reloaded	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:51:00 - [642] /cutwrists? (ingame offc) [VIDEO] Paroxysm
Treylis Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:52:00 - [643] Originally by: Isaac Starstriker I seriously wonder if anyone besides BoB has asked CCP to change their alliance name.... Makes you wonder. --Isaac Stain Allaince-
Flaming Lemming Puppeteer Press	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:53:00 - [644] Originally by: Aglaea I'd like Band of Brothers Reloaded to follow the same rules as everyone else. Thanks. I don't care if it's Kenzoku, BoB, Goons, CVA, RA or even the MGRL, one set of rules should apply to EVERYBODY. Another example of apparent favoritism....remember this: Looks like the 'special' line still exists. I feel a full investigation by IA is required for this matter.
KAELA MENSHA	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:54:00 - [645] There is no guarantee that the name will be changed. Only character names that are deemed as inappropriate are eligible for a possible name change. Names will not be changed for any other reason. remember this You have violated your own term and conditions.
Kashbrok Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:54:00 - [646]
Johli AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:55:00 - [647] CCP can disband every alliance in EVE, make BoB the sole ruler of 0.0, and they will still deny favoritism.
fishblades GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:56:00 - [648] The only thing more dumb then CCP allowing this is all the idiots defending BoB for getting special treatment yet again. Delve is ours already so none of this really matters. However if they had to follow the rules like everyone else; do you really think they would have closed the alliance to rename it while dropping sov in the last systems they have, yea right... you're a moron. CCP needs to explain why only BoB is allowed to circumvent loss of sov due to a name change.
Captin Lawdogg The Flying Tigers United Front Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:59:00 - [649]
Mar'jun Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:03:00 - [650]

Shinma Apollo Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:03:00 - [651] please apply your own rules ccp.
Taedrin Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:04:00 - [652] I fully support CCP undoing any mistake that shows favoritism, and failure to uphold their own rules. However, the OP is suggesting that an alliance be disbanded because of a mistake on CCP's part. This is unnecessary, heavy handed and malicious in nature. /unsigned. I will gladly /sign a thread which seeks to undo the name change, and which seeks to have internal affairs thoroughly investigate the matter. Seriously folks, think rationally. Don't let emotions and biases cloud your judgement.
Hubris Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:06:00 - [653] quick someone check ingame, after clearing cache, its a rumor that .BOB. is still there but it has been changed back to kenny only ingame so far. -
Elpoc	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:06:00 - [654]
Cpt Underpants Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:07:00 - [655] Violating its own policies, CCP has slapped the faces of all but a tiny minority of active subscribers with this action.
Drakoulia The Night Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:09:00 - [656] --- Originally by: The Mittani Don't touch that! Don't open the refrigerator! The spy is in the refrigerator!
Ellen Geiger	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:10:00 - [657] /signed
Samuel Grindhoof Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:10:00 - [658] Edited by: Samuel Grindhoof on 24/03/2009 02:12:19 it seems to be kenny again. ticker name shows still .BoB. but if you (or bett i) serach just one of them....nothing. not .BoB. neihter kenny. Remember, remember the 5th of November.....
Tyffanny	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:11:00 - [659] Disband now!
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:12:00 - [660] Originally by: Taedrin I fully support CCP undoing any mistake that shows favoritism, and failure to uphold their own rules. However, the OP is suggesting that an alliance be disbanded because of a mistake on CCP's part. This is unnecessary, heavy handed and malicious in nature. /unsigned. I will gladly /sign a thread which seeks to undo the name change, and which seeks to have internal affairs thoroughly investigate the matter. Seriously folks, think rationally. Don't let emotions and biases cloud your judgement. A mistake is letting an employee give an alliance a bunch of T2 BPO's and not catching it until the community goes ballistic. We are a bit beyond mistake at this point, and in to obvious collusion territory.



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