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The Qat Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:48:00 - [61] Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. shut up get out ccp can't follow their own rules and can't explain their reasoning when they don't
Captain Soki Gallente Esoteria Enterprises Trans-Stellar Industries	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:49:00 - [62] Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. If you take your goon C**ksucking glasses off you will see goons are not the only ones upset at this unfortunate and blatant favortism. as far as what happened to BOB it was allowed because that could be the consequence of ANY alliance. However the name change was only granted to a particular group of people. Either you have no idea about rules and ethics( even in videoames) or you have been trolling so long thats all you know. either way i wouldnt want to be you for a second of your best day.
Shikome Alluin Gallente Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:49:00 - [63] Edited by: Shikome Alluin on 23/03/2009 23:50:07 Originally by: northwesten Originally by: Shikome Alluin Originally by: northwesten laughs at pathetic people whining and crying over a bloody NAME! Please read below quote again, again, again and one more time... Get it yet? I stay by my comment! OVER a name big deal! this just lame period! Like I said: You can not ignore that fact, I know you will try though... - Aloha mr Hand
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:50:00 - [64] Originally by: northwesten Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. well said! Just saying what I guess most CAOD readers outside the goonswarm coalition are thinking ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Captain Soki Gallente Esoteria Enterprises Trans-Stellar Industries	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:52:00 - [65] Edited by: Captain Soki on 23/03/2009 23:53:50 Edited by: Captain Soki on 23/03/2009 23:52:52 Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: northwesten Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. well said! Just saying what I guess most CAOD readers outside the goonswarm coalition are thinking linkage fail 101010101
Del369 Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:52:00 - [66] Originally by: Monsieur Escargots You need to understand that this isn't about the effect it has on in game ongoings. This is purely principle. Read Animal Farm. BoB are the pigs. That's what everyone who isn't in BoB feels like. CCP if you don't know "Animal Farm" I'd suggest an ALL employee mandatory reading ASAP, you "might" just "GET" the animosity then, quoted is correct, KENNY/BEAVER/ASSCAKES are the PIGS. "ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS." Anything ticking in there........
Sirius Business Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:53:00 - [67] Originally by: Jade Constantine Just grow up and play the game. But by your standards, I'd have to pretend to roleplay a trollop doing favors of ill repute over in game chat for isk. Your version of EvE is warped.
Zumbala Gallente ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:53:00 - [68] Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. You are just as usual incredibly stupid and/or a troll, but because I am a nice guy, I'll explain you anyway: Disbanding an alliance the way it was done was not possible within the documentation. Untrue. Well, in fact there is no documentation about that. So there was no stament of if it was possible or not. But CCP always made clear what is an exploit or not. The difference with the aliance renaming is that CCP clearly stated that this was not possible. End of story.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:54:00 - [69] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/03/2009 23:55:26 Originally by: Captain Soki Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. If you take your goon C**ksucking glasses off you will see goons are not the only ones upset at this unfortunate and blatant favortism. as far as what happened to BOB it was allowed because that could be the consequence of ANY alliance. However the name change was only granted to a particular group of people. Either you have no idea about rules and ethics( even in videoames) or you have been trolling so long thats all you know. either way i wouldnt want to be you for a second of your best day. You seem a little bit too upset by a namechange to be a truly neutral observer there sport. Something tells me you aren't quite as independent as you might claim. But the reality of the situation is that as far as I'm concerned Goonswarm effectively cheated in establishing the Band of Brothers corporation to block the recreation of the Band of Brothers alliance in the first place. The GM's have basically ennacted a compromise resolution here. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
SodiumCyanide Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:54:00 - [70] Originally by: GUY PRETENDING TO BE A GIRL. HAS CYBERSEX WITH GUYS. WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT
The Qat Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:56:00 - [71] Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/03/2009 23:55:26 Originally by: Captain Soki Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. If you take your goon C**ksucking glasses off you will see goons are not the only ones upset at this unfortunate and blatant favortism. as far as what happened to BOB it was allowed because that could be the consequence of ANY alliance. However the name change was only granted to a particular group of people. Either you have no idea about rules and ethics( even in videoames) or you have been trolling so long thats all you know. either way i wouldnt want to be you for a second of your best day. You seem a little bit too upset by a namechange to be a truly neutral observer there sport. Something tells me you aren't quite as independent as you might claim. But the reality of the situation is that as far as I'm concerned Goonswarm effectively cheated in establishing the Band of Brothers corporation to block the recreation of the Band of Brothers alliance in the first place. The GM's have basically ennacted a compromise resolution here. there was no cheating involved, they were disbanded by a person with the correct permissions who wished to disband them shut up
Captain Soki Gallente Esoteria Enterprises Trans-Stellar Industries	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:59:00 - [72] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Captain Soki Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1031879&page=12 i suck at linking but this thread should be the answer to whether or not the eve community aproves of the action. your 2 wrongs make a right aproach is not a good way to handle a community of such as this. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. If you take your goon C**ksucking glasses off you will see goons are not the only ones upset at this unfortunate and blatant favortism. as far as what happened to BOB it was allowed because that could be the consequence of ANY alliance. However the name change was only granted to a particular group of people. Either you have no idea about rules and ethics( even in videoames) or you have been trolling so long thats all you know. either way i wouldnt want to be you for a second of your best day. You see a little bit too upset by a namechange to be a truly neutral observer there sport. Something tells me you aren't quite as independent as you might claim. But the reality of the situation is that as far as I'm concerned Goonswarm effectively cheated in establishing the Band of Brothers corporation to block the recreation of the Band of Brothers alliance in the first place. The GM's have basically ennacted a compromise resolution here. Again you seem to think all of eve gives two damns about bob or goons. I have no "with us or against us" attitutude that you try to project on me.
Dianeces Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:00:00 - [73] Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. Haargoth has two "a"s. And he did do it, despite all the rationalization to the contrary~
Itzena Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:00:00 - [74] Originally by: Jade Constantine You seem a little bit too upset by a namechange to be a truly neutral observer there sport. Something tells me you aren't quite as independent as you might claim. But the reality of the situation is that as far as I'm concerned Goonswarm effectively cheated in establishing the Band of Brothers corporation to block the recreation of the Band of Brothers alliance in the first place. The GM's have basically ennacted a compromise resolution here. And what would you know about compromise?
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:01:00 - [75] Originally by: Zumbala Disbanding an alliance the way it was done was not possible within the documentation. Untrue. Well, in fact there is no documentation about that. You are incorrect. There was documentation - it was flawed and out of date of course - but it certainly didn't suggest that one man could auto-destruct an entire alliance. Quote: So there was no stament of if it was possible or not. But CCP always made clear what is an exploit or not. Interesting you should say that since in the past CCP have acted to remove individual character and corporation names that are attempting to impersonate another entity. It certainly used to say in the eula that impersonating other in-game entities was a breach of the rules. I know from personal experience that CCP have acted to rename impersonating entities on petition. I found it very strange that they didn't choose to act against the Band of Brothers alt corp that was established to block the creation of an alliance since that seemed to be a exploit clear and simple. Quote: The difference with the aliance renaming is that CCP clearly stated that this was not possible. End of story. CCP have renamed individuals and corporations in the past and there have been quite large discussions around some of them. Look back into the 4S/SAS "scandal" in Keiron's time for an example. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Palmer Eldritch Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:02:00 - [76] Originally by: Jade Constantine As I'm concerned Goonswarm effectively cheated in establishing the Band of Brothers corporation to block the recreation of the Band of Brothers alliance in the first place. But not as far as the rules of the game are concerned. The rules should be applied equally to all players. In my personal opinion. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:04:00 - [77] Originally by: The Qat there was no cheating involved, they were disbanded by a person with the correct permissions who wished to disband them Really, I think you are fairly to read the argument. If (for example) my alliance was disbanded in this way and somebody went ahead and created a corp called "the star fraction" to block me from recreating "the star fraction" alliance I'd consider that cheating and a direct exploit of the entity naming system in eve online. I'd petition it as such, citing intentional impersonation and exploitation of game mechanics to prevent recreation of my alliance. I consider the goons cheated of the Band of Brother alt corp move. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
Dianeces Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:05:00 - [78] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: The Qat there was no cheating involved, they were disbanded by a person with the correct permissions who wished to disband them Really, I think you are fairly to read the argument. If (for example) my alliance was disbanded in this way and somebody went ahead and created a corp called "the star fraction" to block me from recreating "the star fraction" alliance I'd consider that cheating and a direct exploit of the entity naming system in eve online. I'd petition it as such, citing intentional impersonation and exploitation of game mechanics to prevent recreation of my alliance. I consider the goons cheated of the Band of Brother alt corp move. How do you impersonate that which does not exist~ :zen:
Lumen Atra Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:06:00 - [79] Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. The game documentation does allow for alliance disbanding, but you already know that, so I don't know why you would be contrary to what you know other than to act as a troll. That silly statement aside: So, what do you think of the fact that beaver (aka Kenny) didn't have to lose sov or pay 1bil to change their name? I believe this is the biggest issue people, not just goons, are taking issue with. Do you believe this to be a fair decision and, if so, why?
Dog Solitude Minmatar Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:08:00 - [80] You know it has nothing to do with whether you think "rules were broken" or not right? You hate bob, we get it. Wow, you guys really need to take a step back from the game a bit....
Caius Proximus Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:08:00 - [81] Hey who cares about rules for how devs should interact with players just grow up and play the game --Jade Constantine, 2009, former head of CSM
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:09:00 - [82] Originally by: Palmer Eldritch But not as far as the rules of the game are concerned. Well I know that GM's will rename individual characters and corporations that are attempting to pass themselves off as something they are not. I know that GM's will give players warnings for some kinds of obstructive gameplay that exploits a mechanic to damage the enjoyment and gameplay of other players. Try perma-bumping a freighter in hisec to prevent the player from approaching a gate and see how long it takes for you to be told to stop it for example. This decision to obstruct the recreation of band of brothers alliance by sitting on a corp name was intentional exploitation of the naming mechanic to block a group of players from re-establishing their identity. Its cheating. CCP should have simply renamed your corp and let Band of Brothers be recreated properly. Instead they have done a compromise. No point crying about it - just play the game. ISSUE - Bring Space Bushido to CAOD
teji Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:10:00 - [83] Edited by: teji on 24/03/2009 00:10:47 Originally by: Dog Solitude You know it has nothing to do with whether you think "rules were broken" or not right? You hate bob, we get it. Wow, you guys really need to take a step back from the game a bit.... Wow, you have no brains. It's exactly that rules were broken. You'd think CCP would learn after T20 but apparently not. How about we ban Jade from ever posting or playing this game ever again and beavers can keep their name. that sounds like a compromise that might work.
Joakim Saxon Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:10:00 - [84] Originally by: Lumen Atra Originally by: Jade Constantine Well playing Eve is voluntary at the end of the day. If the goons don't like that Band of Brothers (kinda) got their name back then they aren't being forced to continue their subscription payments. Lets get it into perspective. Within the letter of the game documentation the alliance disband wasn't apparently possible in the first place. If ccp are going to honour "Hargoth" disbanding the orginal alliance and take no action against Goons reinstituting a Band of Brothers alt corp purely to post spam on CAOD with while impersonating an in-game entity against past eula guidance then it seems absolutely reasonable that a compromise is reached and they let BOB rename their current alliance to a form that respects the gameplay investment of its member base in previous years. This current threadnaughting on the other hand is immature foot-stamping at best and I think the actual Eve community (as opposed to the SA community) will be getting a bit tired of goons throwing their toys out of prams every time the slightest thing goes against them by now. Whineswarm strikes again. Just grow up and play the game. The game documentation does allow for alliance disbanding, but you already know that, so I don't know why you would be contrary to what you know other than to act as a troll. That silly statement aside: So, what do you think of the fact that beaver (aka Kenny) didn't have to lose sov or pay 1bil to change their name? I believe this is the biggest issue people, not just goons, are taking issue with. Do you believe this to be a fair decision and, if so, why? Because poor poor BoB was CHEATED out of their name! Which is odd, cause there was no Band of Brothers alliance in existence when Band of Brothers corporation was founded, how can they "impersonate" something that doesn't exist. I'm sure Jade will claim its abusing or taking advantage of the spirit of the rules, but guess what, it is not BREAKING the rules. Kenzoku name change? BREAKING the rules.
GuardianVale Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:10:00 - [85] Has anyone made the "It's not like they had sov to lose with a name change" joke yet?
Kachiko Sama Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:12:00 - [86] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: The Qat there was no cheating involved, they were disbanded by a person with the correct permissions who wished to disband them Really, I think you are fairly to read the argument. If (for example) my alliance was disbanded in this way and somebody went ahead and created a corp called "the star fraction" to block me from recreating "the star fraction" alliance I'd consider that cheating and a direct exploit of the entity naming system in eve online. I'd petition it as such, citing intentional impersonation and exploitation of game mechanics to prevent recreation of my alliance. I consider the goons cheated of the Band of Brother alt corp move. Such a terrible pity that your opinion matters not a toss. Oh wait, it isn't. The issue here isn't your interpretation of the rules (thankfully, because you're clearly an incapable buffoon who substitutes verbosity for intellect). Nothing the goons did broke any rules, CCP have released a statement to that effect, remember? Your little anime friends were out thought and out played and now they're trying to cheat to get their toys back, you are attempting to defend the effectvely indefensible.
Jack Gates Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:13:00 - [87] Originally by: Jade Constantine Just grow up and play the game. YOU ROLE PLAY A SPACE HOOKER
Captain Soki Gallente Esoteria Enterprises Trans-Stellar Industries	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:13:00 - [88] I am not pro or anti goon. bob neither. the name change is just the face of the issue. The 400lb gorilla that so many (and yes even empire dwellers as myself.) have issue with is that they were allowed to keep sov, offices etc. and did not have to pay the 1bil for an alliance. now you keep saying its a fair compromise but if CCP had the power to do this they should of set delve back to bob control as well. Im sorry this doesnt pass the human decency test. This is my personal opinion on the matter but if you look in the assembly hall there is an array of players, non-goon, who are upset by this. hope this helps.
Natika Veritas Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:20:00 - [89] Originally by: Jade Constantine Originally by: Palmer Eldritch But not as far as the rules of the game are concerned. Well I know that GM's will rename individual characters and corporations that are attempting to pass themselves off as something they are not. I know that GM's will give players warnings for some kinds of obstructive gameplay that exploits a mechanic to damage the enjoyment and gameplay of other players. Try perma-bumping a freighter in hisec to prevent the player from approaching a gate and see how long it takes for you to be told to stop it for example. This decision to obstruct the recreation of band of brothers alliance by sitting on a corp name was intentional exploitation of the naming mechanic to block a group of players from re-establishing their identity. Its cheating. CCP should have simply renamed your corp and let Band of Brothers be recreated properly. Instead they have done a compromise. No point crying about it - just play the game. How daft are you? If CCP changed our corp name and let kenny get the name back through the standard, disband, start over mechanic, then there would be less uproar, what happened was that CCP changed the name directly, while also breaking the alliance name character limit. Molle got to keep his sov while changing his alliance name unlike anyone else before. You are an idiot if you can't see the difference between what you said and what happened.
Palmer Eldritch Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 00:20:00 - [90] Edited by: Palmer Eldritch on 24/03/2009 00:20:17 Originally by: Jade Constantine Well I know that GM's will rename individual characters and corporations that are attempting to pass themselves off as something they are not. You know that they will not re-name a character or corp which petitions that they don't like the name they chose for their character or corp, or alliance, and want a new one. Except in this case. You say that asking for the rules to be applied equally to all players is crying. Let's try to have a debate without resorting to insults please. I believe CCP should not consistently give preferential treatment to a particular group of players. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point

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