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Gravimetric	Posted - 2004.08.19 21:36:00 - [1] Edited by: Gravimetric on 19/08/2004 21:39:40 http://pw1.netcom.com/~sirbruce/Subscriptions.html Link posted on Slashdot about MMORPG subscriber stats. Includes Eve now! Enjoy.
Gravimetric	Posted - 2004.08.19 21:36:00 - [2] Edited by: Gravimetric on 19/08/2004 21:39:40 http://pw1.netcom.com/~sirbruce/Subscriptions.html Link posted on Slashdot about MMORPG subscriber stats. Includes Eve now! Enjoy.
RagnarH	Posted - 2004.08.19 21:52:00 - [3] EVE is growing This char is perm banned on forums :S
RagnarH	Posted - 2004.08.19 21:52:00 - [4] EVE is growing This char is perm banned on forums :S
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.19 22:00:00 - [5] Interesting to see how much EVE peaked right when E&B started to close. .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.19 22:00:00 - [6] Interesting to see how much EVE peaked right when E&B started to close. .................
loladoll	Posted - 2004.08.19 22:05:00 - [7] Edited by: loladoll on 19/08/2004 22:07:13 hmm, nice graph,quit strong growth however, I remember that half a year or more ago there was some mentioning that Eve had already 50.000 subscribers. So either they were to optimistic, or the catch is in the definition of "active subscription". But however, congrats CCP ______________________________________ live is tough and then you get a clone
loladoll	Posted - 2004.08.19 22:05:00 - [8] Edited by: loladoll on 19/08/2004 22:07:13 hmm, nice graph,quit strong growth however, I remember that half a year or more ago there was some mentioning that Eve had already 50.000 subscribers. So either they were to optimistic, or the catch is in the definition of "active subscription". But however, congrats CCP ______________________________________ live is tough and then you get a clone
DarkStar251	Posted - 2004.08.20 00:15:00 - [9] omgz! RUNESCAPE beat eve????? That game is not only compeltely crap, but they just nerfed it to hell with their '3d update' I suppose the fact that its mainly inhabited ny 12 year olds and those numbers probably count f2p and p2p players (and even the p2p ones pay less than $5 a month) means we still won :) We seem to have a nice sustained growth pattern though, long may it continue.
DarkStar251	Posted - 2004.08.20 00:15:00 - [10] omgz! RUNESCAPE beat eve????? That game is not only compeltely crap, but they just nerfed it to hell with their '3d update' I suppose the fact that its mainly inhabited ny 12 year olds and those numbers probably count f2p and p2p players (and even the p2p ones pay less than $5 a month) means we still won :) We seem to have a nice sustained growth pattern though, long may it continue.
kieron	Posted - 2004.08.20 02:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Cruz Interesting to see how much EVE peaked right when E&B started to close. That was about the time the wizards in the marketing department started with the trial programs and ISD/STAR started ramping up the Meet and Greet program. With Shiva just around the corner, we hope to hit 75k+ subs by Christmas. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
kieron	Posted - 2004.08.20 02:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Cruz Interesting to see how much EVE peaked right when E&B started to close. That was about the time the wizards in the marketing department started with the trial programs and ISD/STAR started ramping up the Meet and Greet program. With Shiva just around the corner, we hope to hit 75k+ subs by Christmas. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
kieron	Posted - 2004.08.20 02:03:00 - [13] Originally by: loladoll however, I remember that half a year or more ago there was some mentioning that Eve had already 50.000 subscribers. So either they were to optimistic, or the catch is in the definition of "active subscription". I don't believe anyone from CCP mentioned that EVE had more than 50k paying subscriptions. However, the numbers in the graph are accurate (Hellmar provided numbers to the owner of the graph). If we were looking to split hairs and count the number of subs and included trial accounts (more than 5k trial accounts are active right now), we would be well over the 50k mark. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
kieron	Posted - 2004.08.20 02:03:00 - [14] Originally by: loladoll however, I remember that half a year or more ago there was some mentioning that Eve had already 50.000 subscribers. So either they were to optimistic, or the catch is in the definition of "active subscription". I don't believe anyone from CCP mentioned that EVE had more than 50k paying subscriptions. However, the numbers in the graph are accurate (Hellmar provided numbers to the owner of the graph). If we were looking to split hairs and count the number of subs and included trial accounts (more than 5k trial accounts are active right now), we would be well over the 50k mark. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
Origim	Posted - 2004.08.20 02:07:00 - [15] Edited by: Origim on 20/08/2004 02:08:22 Originally by: kieron With Shiva just around the corner Please tell me Shiva is going to be released in September, as was promised before, not on November 3rd as the current timing suggests. -------------- Posting Efficiency / Rank 1 / SP: 68542 of 256000 \|
Origim	Posted - 2004.08.20 02:07:00 - [16] Edited by: Origim on 20/08/2004 02:08:22 Originally by: kieron With Shiva just around the corner Please tell me Shiva is going to be released in September, as was promised before, not on November 3rd as the current timing suggests. -------------- Posting Efficiency / Rank 1 / SP: 68542 of 256000 \|
The Sloth	Posted - 2004.08.20 03:27:00 - [17] Originally by: kieron I don't believe anyone from CCP mentioned that EVE had more than 50k paying subscriptions. However, the numbers in the graph are accurate (Hellmar provided numbers to the owner of the graph). If we were looking to split hairs and count the number of subs and included trial accounts (more than 5k trial accounts are active right now), we would be well over the 50k mark. Quote: Truly Massive Universe where 50.000 players are living in a single universe with no sharding. Taken from here. The Sloth.
The Sloth	Posted - 2004.08.20 03:27:00 - [18] Originally by: kieron I don't believe anyone from CCP mentioned that EVE had more than 50k paying subscriptions. However, the numbers in the graph are accurate (Hellmar provided numbers to the owner of the graph). If we were looking to split hairs and count the number of subs and included trial accounts (more than 5k trial accounts are active right now), we would be well over the 50k mark. Quote: Truly Massive Universe where 50.000 players are living in a single universe with no sharding. Taken from here. The Sloth.
Paw Sandberg	Posted - 2004.08.20 03:51:00 - [19] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Cruz Interesting to see how much EVE peaked right when E&B started to close. That was about the time the wizards in the marketing department started with the trial programs and ISD/STAR started ramping up the Meet and Greet program. With Shiva just around the corner, we hope to hit 75k+ subs by Christmas. not to be rude (cause it will come across that way ) but you guys need to get your collective behinds up and make some ads for the networks in the US (and quite possible in europe) you are extremely lucky if you stumble across EVE online even if some of your friends play it as it is atm rather hard to find you guys got the BRILIANT idear (absoulutely briliant BTW) to make free (no catch no CC requiered) 14 day accounts for peoble to try out EVE (nine out of ten peoble will try something like that atleast once) i dont know how many peoble that try eve stay's but i am guessing its atleast 50% there is 256 mill peoble in the US (or quite possible more not sure i just live here ) lets say just 100 mill of those peoble try EVE and half of them likes it i mean everyone here has heard of everquest (the game is not even half as good as EVE) sims online and lineage no one have heard of EVE EVE is the best game out there of its type but no one heard of it that saddens me please please please Finish Shiva (in its time) then upgrade the servers and buy some network time here in the states let peoble know that by going to EVE-ONLINE.COM you can get a free trial for a game that does not even ask for your credit card and see the peoble stream into the game when the states are in (and you guys have upgraded the servers 10-15 times to handle the load ) then do the samme in Europe once we have 50k players online at the samme time i might stop complaining Thank You Paw Sandberg for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
Paw Sandberg	Posted - 2004.08.20 03:51:00 - [20] Originally by: kieron Originally by: Cruz Interesting to see how much EVE peaked right when E&B started to close. That was about the time the wizards in the marketing department started with the trial programs and ISD/STAR started ramping up the Meet and Greet program. With Shiva just around the corner, we hope to hit 75k+ subs by Christmas. not to be rude (cause it will come across that way ) but you guys need to get your collective behinds up and make some ads for the networks in the US (and quite possible in europe) you are extremely lucky if you stumble across EVE online even if some of your friends play it as it is atm rather hard to find you guys got the BRILIANT idear (absoulutely briliant BTW) to make free (no catch no CC requiered) 14 day accounts for peoble to try out EVE (nine out of ten peoble will try something like that atleast once) i dont know how many peoble that try eve stay's but i am guessing its atleast 50% there is 256 mill peoble in the US (or quite possible more not sure i just live here ) lets say just 100 mill of those peoble try EVE and half of them likes it i mean everyone here has heard of everquest (the game is not even half as good as EVE) sims online and lineage no one have heard of EVE EVE is the best game out there of its type but no one heard of it that saddens me please please please Finish Shiva (in its time) then upgrade the servers and buy some network time here in the states let peoble know that by going to EVE-ONLINE.COM you can get a free trial for a game that does not even ask for your credit card and see the peoble stream into the game when the states are in (and you guys have upgraded the servers 10-15 times to handle the load ) then do the samme in Europe once we have 50k players online at the samme time i might stop complaining Thank You Paw Sandberg for all your BPC needs see http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=55706&page=1
Golgrath	Posted - 2004.08.20 04:17:00 - [21] No, please don't advertise or do anything, lag is enough as it is, thank you.
Golgrath	Posted - 2004.08.20 04:17:00 - [22] No, please don't advertise or do anything, lag is enough as it is, thank you.
DarkStar251	Posted - 2004.08.20 04:21:00 - [23] Edited by: DarkStar251 on 20/08/2004 04:26:25 Yes, EVE is very much an unknown atm. If not network time, running some ads in PC Format and the related mags would surely drum up some interest. Hell get them to stick a copy on the CD with codes for 30 day account time or something and you are BOUND to get more people playing. Not only that, but I very rarely see the game in stores these days.... some prople like a tangible box for their money... Assuming 45,000 subs thats about $675,000 per month income. Hell I'd be up for waiting an extra month for Shiva so you can use the cash for a large advertising campaign, gaining a significant number of subs. Then again, I'm just some random guy and I'm sure your marketing wizards have already thought of this and other ideas :D After all, Its only a matter of time before we see X2:Online Universe released. The single-player X games already have a large following, and I see it as EVE's next direct competitior. I'd guess it will have a large amount of publicity, they have promised 50k+ symultainious players, and 1 persistant world, just like EVE. I think EVE needs to get itself establised as the leader in its genre before such a release :)
DarkStar251	Posted - 2004.08.20 04:21:00 - [24] Edited by: DarkStar251 on 20/08/2004 04:26:25 Yes, EVE is very much an unknown atm. If not network time, running some ads in PC Format and the related mags would surely drum up some interest. Hell get them to stick a copy on the CD with codes for 30 day account time or something and you are BOUND to get more people playing. Not only that, but I very rarely see the game in stores these days.... some prople like a tangible box for their money... Assuming 45,000 subs thats about $675,000 per month income. Hell I'd be up for waiting an extra month for Shiva so you can use the cash for a large advertising campaign, gaining a significant number of subs. Then again, I'm just some random guy and I'm sure your marketing wizards have already thought of this and other ideas :D After all, Its only a matter of time before we see X2:Online Universe released. The single-player X games already have a large following, and I see it as EVE's next direct competitior. I'd guess it will have a large amount of publicity, they have promised 50k+ symultainious players, and 1 persistant world, just like EVE. I think EVE needs to get itself establised as the leader in its genre before such a release :)
Kitten Hearder	Posted - 2004.08.20 12:16:00 - [25] Good ol' psychotic sirbruce. --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's.
Kitten Hearder	Posted - 2004.08.20 12:16:00 - [26] Good ol' psychotic sirbruce. --------- Kitten Hearder Evolution made my sig Less Entertaining than your's.
Shevar	Posted - 2004.08.20 13:10:00 - [27] Edited by: Shevar on 20/08/2004 13:12:37 Originally by: Origim Edited by: Origim on 20/08/2004 02:08:22 Originally by: kieron With Shiva just around the corner Please tell me Shiva is going to be released in September, as was promised before, not on November 3rd as the current timing suggests. Heheheh well all info indicated november 3th as the date (though that could become later ofcourse). Eve fanfest is at the end of oktober and the people there will get a sneak preview to shiva... So they definatly dont expect to release it before the fan fest, also since support cruisers are supposed to be out before shiva kinda gives it away if you look at the time interval between new ship types over the last half year. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Shevar	Posted - 2004.08.20 13:10:00 - [28] Edited by: Shevar on 20/08/2004 13:12:37 Originally by: Origim Edited by: Origim on 20/08/2004 02:08:22 Originally by: kieron With Shiva just around the corner Please tell me Shiva is going to be released in September, as was promised before, not on November 3rd as the current timing suggests. Heheheh well all info indicated november 3th as the date (though that could become later ofcourse). Eve fanfest is at the end of oktober and the people there will get a sneak preview to shiva... So they definatly dont expect to release it before the fan fest, also since support cruisers are supposed to be out before shiva kinda gives it away if you look at the time interval between new ship types over the last half year. -------- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
Shade Widow	Posted - 2004.08.20 13:32:00 - [29] If we get enough players CCP will be forced to upgrade the server and forced to get more emplyoes. This could begin to make things go faster. I shall start my own advertising campaign.... ---
Shade Widow	Posted - 2004.08.20 13:32:00 - [30] If we get enough players CCP will be forced to upgrade the server and forced to get more emplyoes. This could begin to make things go faster. I shall start my own advertising campaign.... ---
Thanit	Posted - 2004.08.20 13:40:00 - [31] HGeh, with Eve being player run ingame, why dont we take over marketing as well Anyway, I dont know If I'd like having another 30K subscribers come in in no-time. Unless this is well-timed and hardware is upgraded again it will lead to 30K new and 50K old frustrated players. Not to mention the Eve isnt mainline with it's heavy pvp element. I don't think we need to double the subcount by inviting over the EQ pve mobbers.
Thanit	Posted - 2004.08.20 13:40:00 - [32] HGeh, with Eve being player run ingame, why dont we take over marketing as well Anyway, I dont know If I'd like having another 30K subscribers come in in no-time. Unless this is well-timed and hardware is upgraded again it will lead to 30K new and 50K old frustrated players. Not to mention the Eve isnt mainline with it's heavy pvp element. I don't think we need to double the subcount by inviting over the EQ pve mobbers.
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2004.08.20 13:52:00 - [33] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 20/08/2004 13:54:09 Reading the info on the fan fest, it doesn't seem to me it's a "sneak peak" at Shiva we're going to see, but more on how CCP has developed the expansion. I think they still plan on fulfilling the expectations and release Shiva in September. I also think people are mixing things up with the arrangement later on the day when there's a "sneak peak" at Kali. (So now you think Kali is right around the corner?). ---------------- What's a rumor on page one is a fact on page two
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2004.08.20 13:52:00 - [34] Edited by: Jowen Datloran on 20/08/2004 13:54:09 Reading the info on the fan fest, it doesn't seem to me it's a "sneak peak" at Shiva we're going to see, but more on how CCP has developed the expansion. I think they still plan on fulfilling the expectations and release Shiva in September. I also think people are mixing things up with the arrangement later on the day when there's a "sneak peak" at Kali. (So now you think Kali is right around the corner?). ---------------- What's a rumor on page one is a fact on page two
Dave Day	Posted - 2004.08.20 16:11:00 - [35] Originally by: Shevar Heheheh well all info indicated november 3th as the date (though that could become later ofcourse). Eve fanfest is at the end of oktober and the people there will get a sneak preview to shiva... Oh FFS....They said a sneak preview of KHALI, Get it? KHALI!! KHALI ISN'T SHIVA !!!
Dave Day	Posted - 2004.08.20 16:11:00 - [36] Originally by: Shevar Heheheh well all info indicated november 3th as the date (though that could become later ofcourse). Eve fanfest is at the end of oktober and the people there will get a sneak preview to shiva... Oh FFS....They said a sneak preview of KHALI, Get it? KHALI!! KHALI ISN'T SHIVA !!!
kieron	Posted - 2004.08.20 16:16:00 - [37] Originally by: The Sloth Originally by: kieron I don't believe anyone from CCP mentioned that EVE had more than 50k paying subscriptions. Quote: Truly Massive Universe where 50.000 players are living in a single universe with no sharding. Taken from here. I stand corrected. Somebody must have snuck that in when I wasn't looking! Thanks for pointing that out to me. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
kieron	Posted - 2004.08.20 16:16:00 - [38] Originally by: The Sloth Originally by: kieron I don't believe anyone from CCP mentioned that EVE had more than 50k paying subscriptions. Quote: Truly Massive Universe where 50.000 players are living in a single universe with no sharding. Taken from here. I stand corrected. Somebody must have snuck that in when I wasn't looking! Thanks for pointing that out to me. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
The Sloth	Posted - 2004.08.20 16:19:00 - [39] Originally by: kieron I stand corrected. Somebody must have snuck that in when I wasn't looking! Thanks for pointing that out to me. No Problem. The Sloth.
The Sloth	Posted - 2004.08.20 16:19:00 - [40] Originally by: kieron I stand corrected. Somebody must have snuck that in when I wasn't looking! Thanks for pointing that out to me. No Problem. The Sloth.
Kyle Kador	Posted - 2004.08.20 17:47:00 - [41] Edited by: Kyle Kador on 20/08/2004 17:49:33 Originally by: kieron Originally by: The Sloth Originally by: kieron I don't believe anyone from CCP mentioned that EVE had more than 50k paying subscriptions. Quote: Truly Massive Universe where 50.000 players are living in a single universe with no sharding. Taken from here. I stand corrected. Somebody must have snuck that in when I wasn't looking! Thanks for pointing that out to me. Someones in for a bad time i expect
Kyle Kador	Posted - 2004.08.20 17:47:00 - [42] Edited by: Kyle Kador on 20/08/2004 17:49:33 Originally by: kieron Originally by: The Sloth Originally by: kieron I don't believe anyone from CCP mentioned that EVE had more than 50k paying subscriptions. Quote: Truly Massive Universe where 50.000 players are living in a single universe with no sharding. Taken from here. I stand corrected. Somebody must have snuck that in when I wasn't looking! Thanks for pointing that out to me. Someones in for a bad time i expect
The Sloth	Posted - 2004.08.20 18:59:00 - [43] Originally by: Kyle Kador Someones in for a bad time i expect I didn't post it to make kieron look bad, I merely pointed him to where it was stated. Caldari scum need help with little things like that . The Sloth.
The Sloth	Posted - 2004.08.20 18:59:00 - [44] Originally by: Kyle Kador Someones in for a bad time i expect I didn't post it to make kieron look bad, I merely pointed him to where it was stated. Caldari scum need help with little things like that . The Sloth.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.08.20 21:17:00 - [45] Ahh, good old Sirbruce. While he's one of the more annoying people I know, he's also the ONLY one putting that kind of graph into the public domain Dawn Falcon / Mr. Crick "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.08.20 21:17:00 - [46] Ahh, good old Sirbruce. While he's one of the more annoying people I know, he's also the ONLY one putting that kind of graph into the public domain Dawn Falcon / Mr. Crick "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
loladoll	Posted - 2004.08.20 22:43:00 - [47] Edited by: loladoll on 20/08/2004 22:45:11 found the thread I was looking for, december 7th 2003 Linkage "50k boxes sold and 30k active acounts" (got the numbers for the boxes mixed up with the number for the active acounts Still, if you look at wat was a darker period in Eve's existence (SSI problems and presumed dropping playerbase), the way Eve has not only survived but has even grown tremendously, is truly remarkable. congrats again to the whole Eve team! ______________________________________ live is tough and then you get a clone
loladoll	Posted - 2004.08.20 22:43:00 - [48] Edited by: loladoll on 20/08/2004 22:45:11 found the thread I was looking for, december 7th 2003 Linkage "50k boxes sold and 30k active acounts" (got the numbers for the boxes mixed up with the number for the active acounts Still, if you look at wat was a darker period in Eve's existence (SSI problems and presumed dropping playerbase), the way Eve has not only survived but has even grown tremendously, is truly remarkable. congrats again to the whole Eve team! ______________________________________ live is tough and then you get a clone
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.08.20 23:08:00 - [49] Well.. I guess it depends if you count trial subs or not. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]
Wrangler	Posted - 2004.08.20 23:08:00 - [50] Well.. I guess it depends if you count trial subs or not. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]
Xinder	Posted - 2004.08.21 01:11:00 - [51] all I get from the original posts link was this: "The Web page or file that you requested is temporarily unavailable. It has been so popular this month that it exceeded its free monthly traffic allotment. Access to this Web site will be restored on the first of next month. Please come back then." anyone care to post eve's numbers in this thread, please?
Xinder	Posted - 2004.08.21 01:11:00 - [52] all I get from the original posts link was this: "The Web page or file that you requested is temporarily unavailable. It has been so popular this month that it exceeded its free monthly traffic allotment. Access to this Web site will be restored on the first of next month. Please come back then." anyone care to post eve's numbers in this thread, please?

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