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Kui Ma
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:33:00 -
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As the top reads. Who is the richest in eve?
What corporation would you think?
I know that there isn't an certain answer to this, but who would you think is the wealthyest in eve.
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Kiah Kao
Caldari
Kao Kiyura
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:40:00 -
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Believe it or not, it's the people that are first to every emo-rage-quit-thread and post "Can I have your stuff?" - they make a fortune doing that! 
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Jamyl TashMurkon
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:47:00 -
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Whoever they are, i want their stuff
and i think entity has quite the sum with his assets, then prolly molle with Thug not far behind
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flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc
Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:51:00 -
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One can not rate wich person is the happiest in eve and we al know true wealth lies in inner happiness don't we?
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:53:00 -
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 Originally by: flakeys
One can not rate wich person is the happiest in eve and we al know true wealth lies in inner happiness don't we?
Money can't buy happiness.
...and neither can poverty.
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Midas Man
Caldari
Dzark Innovations
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kui Ma
As the top reads. Who is the richest in eve?
What corporation would you think?
I know that there isn't an certain answer to this, but who would you think is the wealthyest in eve.
1) CCP T20 is probably the richest Player
2) a corp named 'aliuhFarmerswruiArehlihUsaym18765' or some such will be richest corp
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:54:00 -
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EVE Tech Savings n' Loans :) Over 2 Trillion in ISK and assets.... Then again it's probably not the wealthiest.
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Jamyl TashMurkon
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:54:00 -
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oh, E-bank !
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Hexxx
Originally by: flakeys
One can not rate wich person is the happiest in eve and we al know true wealth lies in inner happiness don't we?
Money can't buy happiness.
...and neither can poverty.
But money can buy waffles and maple Syrup.... Poverty can't...
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.25 15:59:00 -
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im not i just spent 140 mill on heatsink 2's =/ as a marketing strategy that didn't work
WTS heatsink 2's for 900k
 i still have things to learn
join from 10,000 isk per share
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.03.25 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
But money can buy waffles and maple Syrup.... Poverty can't...[/quote
And if there is one thing that always brings happiness, it's hot delicious waffles with real maple syrup. |
Sola Veritas
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.03.25 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sola Veritas on 25/03/2009 16:32:04
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
And if there is one thing that always brings happiness, it's hot delicious waffles with real maple syrup.
Indeed!
To answer the OP's question, there was a good discussion with someone who was trading with 50+ Billion in capital in Jita. I have no illusion that he is the "richest among them all" however. Just a real-life example, anyway.
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Arthor Dark
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sola Veritas
To answer the OP's question, there was a good discussion with someone who was trading with 50+ Billion in capital in Jita. I have no illusion that he is the "richest among them all" however. Just a real-life example, anyway.
Trading with 50b in Jita is hardly rich. A good start, but not even close.
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Araviel
Gallente
Epic.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: Araviel on 25/03/2009 17:28:21
Originally by: Sola Veritas
Edited by: Sola Veritas on 25/03/2009 16:32:04
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
And if there is one thing that always brings happiness, it's hot delicious waffles with real maple syrup.
Indeed!
To answer the OP's question, there was a good discussion with someone who was trading with 50+ Billion in capital in Jita. I have no illusion that he is the "richest among them all" however. Just a real-life example, anyway.
i dont think 50bill will cut it anymore,
back in 2004 i was one of the richest players on the server, scooring 2 of the first tech 2 bpo's in the first days of the lottery, my capital then netted around 50bill, (i burned most of that isk on one hell of a war instead of re-investing it)
now this was only 2 bpo's and it was 5 years ago, today i know people who owns around 20-30 or even more tech 2 bpo's, got big moon mining operations and build their own outposts.
so im geussing we got people on the server today that got assets that nets over 500b, and maybe their wallets aswell.
MAXSuicide> Araviels bat is even more powerful than the nerf bat.
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Arthor Dark
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Araviel
so im geussing we got people on the server today that got assets that nets over 500b, and maybe their wallets aswell.
We have a handful of people with atleast a trillion in assets.
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Araviel
Gallente
Epic.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Arthor Dark
Originally by: Araviel
so im geussing we got people on the server today that got assets that nets over 500b, and maybe their wallets aswell.
We have a handful of people with atleast a trillion in assets.
im not supprised, i was guessing low
MAXSuicide> Araviels bat is even more powerful than the nerf bat.
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Emywn Vanya
Caldari
Redemption or Retribution
The Second Genesis
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:34:00 -
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I know someone who trades Jita with about 15 alts and has about a trillion in escrow constantly.... im sure he's got a couple trillion ... now if only the bastard would undock
but in reality your not going to ever find out who's who. The really rich people don't tell you who they are... same as in real life... the people who own the world aren't talking.
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Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2009.03.25 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured C
Edited by: Armoured C on 2009-03-25 16:39:14
I'm not; I just spent 140 million on *EDIT secret products* IIs as a marketing strategy that didn't work.
I still have things to learn.
On that note, you might want to look into eve-search.com. It knows about your super-secret Heat Sink IIs! If you are tempted to change a comment for posterity, you should know that it's often not worth bothering more than a few minutes after it's first posted.
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Kui Ma
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Posted - 2009.03.25 21:47:00 -
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A trillion seems far away when you're flying a Frigate.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 22:21:00 -
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Bah there are people who have quadrillions blah blah ... srsly, proof or stfu.
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Manalapan
Dynasty Banking
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Posted - 2009.03.26 00:15:00 -
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lol are you doubting that there are people that have trillions?
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Armoured C
Gallente
Armoured Investments
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Posted - 2009.03.26 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Thoraemond
Originally by: Armoured C
Edited by: Armoured C on 2009-03-25 16:39:14
I'm not; I just spent 140 million on *EDIT secret products* IIs as a marketing strategy that didn't work.
I still have things to learn.
On that note, you might want to look into eve-search.com. It knows about your super-secret Heat Sink IIs! If you are tempted to change a comment for posterity, you should know that it's often not worth bothering more than a few minutes after it's first posted.
*cries* im ruined my one of 6 modules i started to trade in has been found.
mind you i have only been in the makrte for just under 3 days, i will eventually spread out to bigger items, give me time and i will be here soon , making iskies of your iskies in a bit to obtian all the iskies
join from 10,000 isk per share
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SencneS
Amarr
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2009.03.26 02:28:00 -
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Edited by: SencneS on 26/03/2009 02:32:05
Originally by: Kazzac Elentria
Originally by: SencneS
But money can buy waffles and maple Syrup.... Poverty can't...
And if there is one thing that always brings happiness, it's hot delicious waffles with real maple syrup.
And on this "International Day of Waffles" we all must worship that which comes but ONCE a year!
Edit:- Failed... forgot EVE Forum starts a new day hours ago :(
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Hotblue
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Posted - 2009.03.26 11:46:00 -
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Its many trillions, put simply, the market size is huge (especially in jita) smart trading can grow almost any amount of isk by at least 20% per week (actually a lot more is possible), people do this day in day out for years, figure it out :)
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.03.26 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
And on this "International Day of Waffles" we all must worship that which comes but ONCE a year!
Edit:- Failed... forgot EVE Forum starts a new day hours ago :(
I've just found my new favorite day next to the gremlin santa claus one. |
Stinky McPoopyPants
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.26 21:25:00 -
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I've got allmost 3Million isk liquid!
and another 500k in frigs
The batteries in your new TI-X30 calculator are capable of recharging by themselves. Do not attempt to replace them.
Most importantly, how are you supposed to tell whether this is part of my post or |
Khrillian
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.03.26 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Hexxx
Originally by: flakeys
One can not rate wich person is the happiest in eve and we al know true wealth lies in inner happiness don't we?
Money can't buy happiness.
...and neither can poverty.
But money can buy waffles and maple Syrup.... Poverty can't...
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Kwint Sommer
Caldari
XERCORE
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Posted - 2009.03.27 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Hotblue
Its many trillions, put simply, the market size is huge (especially in jita) smart trading can grow almost any amount of isk by at least 20% per week (actually a lot more is possible), people do this day in day out for years, figure it out :)
For some reason I don't believe that statement.
Maybe I'm just a cynic, maybe I've actually had experience trading with close to 100B or maybe I've seen highly skilled people at places like EBANK never achieve returns anywhere near that with amounts on the order of 100B, let alone a trillion ISK. I'm not sure why but I just feel like you're full of it.
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Thoraemond
Minmatar
Far Ranger
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Posted - 2009.03.27 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kwint Sommer
Originally by: Hotblue
It's many trillions; put simply, the market size is huge (especially in Jita) and smart trading can grow almost any amount of ISK by at least 20% per week (actually a lot more is possible), people do this day in day out for years, figure it out.
For some reason I don't believe that statement.
Maybe I'm just a cynic, maybe I've actually had experience trading with close to 100B or maybe I've seen highly skilled people at places like EBANK never achieve returns anywhere near that with amounts on the order of 100B, let alone a trillion ISK.
I'd agree that while an exceptional 20% week now and then might be doable even with huge amounts of ISK, 20% week-in, week-out for a long time sounds like an awful grind, if even possible.
On the other hand, if you had 100 billion ISK two years ago (as some certainly did), you'd need only 3% weekly (compounding weekly) to be over 2 trillion ISK today, and that sounds more readily doable.
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Dragonz Fire
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.27 05:38:00 -
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my guess is that the richest corps/character live in china. they pay people 25 cents an hour to trade/farm all day so that they can sell their isk on websites. those are the richest in terms of isk. they probably have hundreds and hundreds of billions of isk sitting on mules.
the next richest (people who actually play the game) is probably one of the major alliance leaders or corps. some have been around for a super long time and they make bank with moon minerals.
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Alex555
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Posted - 2009.03.27 07:35:00 -
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Edited by: Alex555 on 27/03/2009 07:34:57
Some time ago I tried to make a list of eve billionairies.
The idea didn't work out as I had expected, but it gave me several thoughts.
Firstly, I totaly agree about china isk farmers and alli leaders.
The ony thing is that it is more like collective effort rather then personal income.
so I would separate alli leaders and isk farmers from ordinary players. And here I would focus rather not on the amount of isk in wallet, due to the fact that real life earnings can be easily transferred into isks through plexes/timecodes and hence apparently one can have a wallet of any size. I would focus on the ability to make isks in-game (excluding isk farmers). some run reactions, some run research allis, some make t2 ships - all of them make isks in-game and mostly all those isks are spent in-game.
As for richest people I know, nothing new here - more than a trillion that for sure.
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Amond Starsmoke
StarFleet Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.27 13:01:00 -
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I really don't think an isk farmer would be a trillionare, regardless of their nationality/ethnicity, on the rational basis that if isk is their inventory then why keep such a large supply of it? All that does is increase risk (CPP banstick) and holding costs (= opportunity cost of not having cash instead of isk!). It's far more likely that an alliance leader could be considered a trillionaire and perhaps richest person in the game, and here's why:
Firstly, I think it depends on what you consider to be part of the personal wealth of the trillionaire. I'll apply some accounting standards to this that I make up on the fly, b/c I think real world accounting standards are largely not applicable to this game.
Defining assets: I consider all isk and items readily convertible to isk to be assets. The second part is probably not necessary since I can't think of many items in this game that aren't convertible to isk courtesy of CCP's npc buyers (<3). But I'll put it there just in case I'm incompetent and am not aware of a large number of items.
Defining the trillionaire's profile: My trillionaire is a hypothetical dictator of a deep 0.0 alliance. He has many moons mining and many pets paying rent and corpies donating to the alliance's various funds. His members are interested in the growth of the alliance's influence, and less in their personal growth of wealth. After all, this is a game and accumulating isk is not the #1 goal for a disproportionately larger segment of the population than in the real world. He is the only player with access to all of the alliance and executor corp's assets, though others may have access to specific funds for operational purposes blah blah blah.
Defining the trillionaire's assets: In my (BIG O)pinion, any assets he has access to should be considered his assets, including the alliance's. While this is a nightmare for accountability's sake (since others also have access to some of these assets), they are all nevertheless directly or indirectly under his control. If he wants them deployed, they will be deployed. If he wants them sold, they will be sold. If they are being used by another alliance member, they are being used to accumulate more assets which is indirectly in-line with his interests. Furthermore, any other claimants on those assets (creditors or his altruistic contributors), are left with sh*t in the wind if he deems it so, which leads to my next point.
Defining the triillionare's liabilities: **DENIED**. Don't count any liabilities against him. If he has taken on debt, the creditor is a sucker. If he has promised assets to someone that are not in the hands of a third party, too bad. The social "glue" of this game is not strong enough to prevent anyone from dishonoring any obligations they have to anyone. He may spend the rest of his days playing spin the ship in Jita, but its alllll his and there is nothing you can do to stop it. No police will punish him or freeze/seize his assets. he can then pursue a career trading in Jita, while selling ISK illegally through some RMT scheme.
Adjusting the trillionaire's assets: As a side note (since I am a small-minded auditor) I'd devalue his 0.0 assets probably to 75%. He can put up deep-space contracts for significantly less than market value and liquidate all those supercaps hes sellin'. Even some former allies/corpies might buy them since its a great discount!
His net worth = Assets less adjustments less liabilities outside of his immediate control (3rd party)
I don't know who these trillionaires are, but I'd say there are a few of them.
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.03.27 15:11:00 -
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Considering 1US$ = 20millions (legal GTC money-isk converting)
one could spend 500 bucks every month and consequently get 10B, which is 120B a year. Now you say, who the hells would spend that amount!?!?!. Believe me there are some nerds who are up to waste even more to get a "successful" virtual life.
Then, with minimal trading skills (real life skills) and some time they can turn those billions into trillions.
So isk is not the best standard to measure a players epeen or achievements, you call it. Just consider his playing goals, like how well-organized is his corp/alliance, or how good is at killing, or even the community respect.
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Argyll MacLachlan
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Posted - 2009.03.27 18:39:00 -
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It`s simple, I`m the richest on Eve.
My trilionmans, let me show you then.
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Andor Nor
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Posted - 2009.03.27 19:57:00 -
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Are you saying that someones have over 50 000$ in this game? If 20m isks is 1$ then 1 trillion isks is 50 000 dollars.
That is something...
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Kui Ma
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Posted - 2009.03.27 21:44:00 -
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Amond, I think your right.
Thats pretty much how you define a trillionair
Tho, I also think that they're are some traders with more than one account.
That sits in Jita trading all the time, could easily make a Trillion
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