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Gobblock Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:20:00 - [1] Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:24:53 Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:24:38 Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:24:09 It seems intrepid crossing wont be attacking any new areas anytime soon. I seem to have misplaced their things. Yes that is roughly a titans worth of parts. There is alot more than is in this screenshot. Haven't tried counting it all, but using round numbers its easily 200b.
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:22:00 - [2] nice pics
Jogvan Caldari Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:25:00 - [3] Pics not showing, guess we need to copy/paste manually http://img.waffleimages.com/300cd44325050120d4f790db0a30e1a6f4dab823/ed3%20copy.jpg http://img.waffleimages.com/aa82c5b1c10092ea55c981562c85fe71eb73c66c/112.com
Vincent Athen Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:25:00 - [4] They appear to have been 0wned
Dungar's Sister Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:27:00 - [5] you cant use waffleimages here stupid
Br0ke Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:27:00 - [6] WTB rev
Marius Duvall Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:28:00 - [7] Oh my goodness.
Dungar's Sister Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:28:00 - [8] Hey gobblock we could use those dreads if you know what i mean
faterror Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:28:00 - [9] gobblock/post
Vladimir Antlerkov Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:28:00 - [10] Originally by: Jogvan Pics not showing, guess we need to copy/paste manually http://img.waffleimages.com/300cd44325050120d4f790db0a30e1a6f4dab823/ed3%20copy.jpg Three Revelations named 1, 2, and 4? We're going to spend hours looking for the one named 3, aren't we?
Panzram Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:29:00 - [11] 17 Belicoses you're set for life
Viscount Prawn Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:30:00 - [12] dibs on an ibis
Stalax Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:32:00 - [13] Edited by: Stalax on 26/03/2009 02:32:29 Ground floor. I'll take any minmatar stuff you don't want :shobon: edit: That includes the reapers.
Ceros X Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:34:00 - [14] do not **** with ra
hammyhamm Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:34:00 - [15] Mess with da goons, you get da stings Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
hammyhamm Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:35:00 - [16] Can I have a moros? <3 Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator
Will Hunter Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:35:00 - [17] Originally by: Ceros X do not **** with ra yep is as simple as that
w00tle Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:40:00 - [18] goddamn
Tachoh Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:42:00 - [19] wow
Dathremar Caldari The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:44:00 - [20] Wow. That's quite the alliance theft. Kind of feel bad for IRC now but I have faith in them being able to overcome this loss. Oh and I'll take one of those Naglfars off your hands. Who flies Naglfars anyways?
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:45:00 - [21] 'hey guys lets invade insmother goonswarm is gone they won't be able to do anything'
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:48:00 - [22] 'oh hay lets lay siege to c-j6, the goon holy land'
Joker Deville Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:57:00 - [23] Originally by: Gobblock Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:28:55 It seems intrepid crossing wont be attacking any new areas anytime soon. I seem to have misplaced their things. We all know they will just petition it and get everything back. After all, all goons do is metagaming, cheating and hacking into other people's accounts.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 02:58:00 - [24] Man, I wish my drone region alt had access to all the good stuff :( --- Nothing is more discomforting than the discovery of our own inadequacies - Carl Jung
Weaselior Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:00:00 - [25] Hahahahaha, nice goddamn work, nobody messes with RA and should expect good things to happen.
Shikome Alluin Gallente Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:02:00 - [26] So is this a "Hat-trick"? for the swarm and friends today? 1. gets BoBr name change reversed. 2. Steels even more "stuff". 3. Wins a loss in 49- (loses battle, but wins moral victory because aaa+friends ... ehh forgets about the moon they where fighting over) Crap, I didnt even like Goons until 2 months ago! But I disliked BoB even more... My Birthday is 5th Feb. And the Hits just keep on coming BoB + AAA made me like Goons... is there a program I could join? o/ Aloha mr Hand
Harry Craig2 Gallente Abrakadabra. Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:03:00 - [27] Originally by: The Mittani 'oh hay lets lay siege to c-j6, the goon holy land' Does this incident qualify as a holy war?
Doc Oxley Minmatar Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:05:00 - [28] Totally didn't see that coming. Disclaimer: May contain traces of sarcasm.
BiaXia Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:08:00 - [29] Originally by: Harry Craig2 Originally by: The Mittani 'oh hay lets lay siege to c-j6, the goon holy land' Does this incident qualify as a holy war? Yes, all goons are required to go to C-J6 every 3 months and orbit the station 6 times, 3 at 5k and another 3 at 10k. Once this is done, we self destruct our ships and beg the Russian space gods to bring us victory in battle. We then local spam for exactly 2 minutes and podjump back to goonspace. IRC and ED are interfering with a very important goon ritual, we will not stand by and allow it to happen.
Uir Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:10:00 - [30] Goonie ++ post OWNED
Snowden Vel Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:12:00 - [31] This is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps.
Joakim Saxon Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:14:00 - [32] Originally by: BiaXia Originally by: Harry Craig2 Originally by: The Mittani 'oh hay lets lay siege to c-j6, the goon holy land' Does this incident qualify as a holy war? Yes, all goons are required to go to C-J6 every 3 months and orbit the station 6 times, 3 at 5k and another 3 at 10k. Once this is done, we self destruct our ships and beg the Russian space gods to bring us victory in battle. We then local spam for exactly 2 minutes and podjump back to goonspace. IRC and ED are interfering with a very important goon ritual, we will not stand by and allow it to happen. We do this in a Rifter, right?
fugazii Minmatar the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:14:00 - [33] Fighting in Eve is not allowed unless against BoB+Co. Also, director level spies in a longtime friend alliance, seems something was in the works long before standings ever changed. and finally, lol irc.
karttoon Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:14:00 - [34] Originally by: Harry Craig2 Originally by: The Mittani 'oh hay lets lay siege to c-j6, the goon holy land' Does this incident qualify as a holy war? You have no idea
Snowden Vel Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:16:00 - [35] Originally by: fugazii Fighting in Eve is not allowed unless against BoB+Co. Also, director level spies in a longtime friend alliance, seems something was in the works long before standings ever changed. and finally, lol irc. our plan to infiltrate PL hit a snag when they kicked dungar
Talzaris Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:18:00 - [36] Originally by: Snowden Vel Originally by: fugazii Fighting in Eve is not allowed unless against BoB+Co. Also, director level spies in a longtime friend alliance, seems something was in the works long before standings ever changed. and finally, lol irc. our plan to infiltrate PL hit a snag when they kicked dungar We still have Trevor in -A- though, so there's always that.
Gobblock Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:23:00 - [37] Posting to celebrate goonswarm accepting THE INTERNET. into goonswarm. dungars sister.txt And Irc: first we got your fcs then we got your hangers
Harry Craig2 Gallente Abrakadabra. Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:24:00 - [38] btw any idea why irc's forums are down? cough internal damage control cough?
Robert Jones Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:44:00 - [39] Dying to hear the story behind this.
Stalax Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:45:00 - [40] Originally by: Joakim Saxon Originally by: BiaXia Originally by: Harry Craig2 Originally by: The Mittani 'oh hay lets lay siege to c-j6, the goon holy land' Does this incident qualify as a holy war? Yes, all goons are required to go to C-J6 every 3 months and orbit the station 6 times, 3 at 5k and another 3 at 10k. Once this is done, we self destruct our ships and beg the Russian space gods to bring us victory in battle. We then local spam for exactly 2 minutes and podjump back to goonspace. IRC and ED are interfering with a very important goon ritual, we will not stand by and allow it to happen. We do this in a Rifter, right? I'm not sure I understand this question, is there another ship in the game?
Vadinho Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:52:00 - [41] Originally by: Stalax I'm not sure I understand this question, is there another ship in the game? Of course, silly. There's also Blackbirds.
Professor Dumbledore Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:55:00 - [42] Originally by: Harry Craig2 btw any idea why irc's forums are down? cough internal damage control cough? Ah not quite ^_^
Ravin Abai Amarr Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2009.03.26 03:57:00 - [43] lollin
Generalissima Gallente Vandal Empire	Posted - 2009.03.26 04:11:00 - [44] I've often wondered how much better this game would be if both BOB/Kenny/Beaver/Kenny and Goons were all ejected from the game, because both groups are equally despicable and harmful.
BonzaiDNA Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 04:16:00 - [45] u mad?
Al'Htaed Minmatar Hug Nutz	Posted - 2009.03.26 04:16:00 - [46] Originally by: Generalissima I've often wondered how much better this game would be if both BOB/Kenny/Beaver/Kenny and Goons were all ejected from the game, because both groups are equally despicable and harmful. It's more fun this way, what goes around comes around. It did for BoB at least.
BiaXia Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 04:18:00 - [47] Originally by: Generalissima I've often wondered how much better this game would be if both BOB/Kenny/Beaver/Kenny and Goons were all ejected from the game, because both groups are equally despicable and harmful. I guess I should go off and commit e-seppuku, as I have clearly violated the rigid moral code that exists within this game of ruthless capitalism and espionage.
Ilsea Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 04:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Vadinho Originally by: Stalax I'm not sure I understand this question, is there another ship in the game? Of course, silly. There's also Blackbirds. Hey you are confusing the newbies, its caracals, caracals are the only thing other then rifters. Also nice pull gobblock
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 04:33:00 - [49] Originally by: Generalissima I've often wondered how much better this game would be if both BOB/Kenny/Beaver/Kenny and Goons were all ejected from the game, because both groups are equally despicable and harmful. You could have just posted on your IRC main, we would have understood.
Thrass Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.26 04:34:00 - [50] Originally by: Snowden Vel This is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps. see what happens Larry?
Assassinated Minmatar The Shadow's Of Eve	Posted - 2009.03.26 04:48:00 - [51] Originally by: Gobblock Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:28:55 Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:27:38 It seems intrepid crossing wont be attacking any new areas anytime soon. I seem to have misplaced their things. Yes that is roughly a titans worth of parts. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7153/112h.jpg http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1962/ed3copy.jpg There is alot more than is in this screenshot. Haven't tried counting it all, but using round numbers its easily 200b. Pretty. Gob, can I have a dread? :) /I always wanted one, not that I can even fly it.
Schlieren Altiprlayle Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 05:07:00 - [52] GOBBLOCK
Mrs Trzzbk Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 05:17:00 - [53] Originally by: BiaXia Originally by: Harry Craig2 Originally by: The Mittani 'oh hay lets lay siege to c-j6, the goon holy land' Does this incident qualify as a holy war? Yes, all goons are required to go to C-J6 every 3 months and orbit the station 6 times, 3 at 5k and another 3 at 10k. Once this is done, we self destruct our ships and beg the Russian space gods to bring us victory in battle. We then local spam for exactly 2 minutes and podjump back to goonspace. IRC and ED are interfering with a very important goon ritual, we will not stand by and allow it to happen. I'm going to actually start doing this now. -------- Signature removed. Not suitable. Navigator
Reapeat Offender Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 05:23:00 - [54] Oops.
Durendale Zukuri Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 05:28:00 - [55] This day just keeps on giving, +rep Gobblock. Also bahahahahahahahahahaha
Mecinia Lua Minmatar Galactic Express Burning Horizons	Posted - 2009.03.26 05:30:00 - [56] Interesting :) Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
Mike Yass Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 05:31:00 - [57] Originally by: Gobblock Posting to celebrate goonswarm accepting THE INTERNET. into goonswarm. dungars sister.txt And Irc: first we got your fcs then we got your hangers I always knew windypops was a goon troll.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.03.26 05:34:00 - [58] haha nicely done, a guy i know in IRC was saying it was almost a trillion worth ;O but i'm guessing it's quite a bit less grats
GenrlBaconbits Caldari Southern Cross Empire	Posted - 2009.03.26 05:37:00 - [59] Originally by: Joakim Saxon Originally by: BiaXia Originally by: Harry Craig2 Originally by: The Mittani 'oh hay lets lay siege to c-j6, the goon holy land' Does this incident qualify as a holy war? Yes, all goons are required to go to C-J6 every 3 months and orbit the station 6 times, 3 at 5k and another 3 at 10k. Once this is done, we self destruct our ships and beg the Russian space gods to bring us victory in battle. We then local spam for exactly 2 minutes and podjump back to goonspace. IRC and ED are interfering with a very important goon ritual, we will not stand by and allow it to happen. We do this in a Rifter, right? hey let me know when you guys are going to do that thing again ill get my corpmate to DD you guys!! nothing better to please the god(s) than a giant ball of glowing death and destruction!! i dislike goonies with a passion...keep up the trolling. woo go new .BoB.
LASER WATCHER Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 05:52:00 - [60] Originally by: GenrlBaconbits Originally by: Joakim Saxon Originally by: BiaXia Yes, all goons are required to go to C-J6 every 3 months and orbit the station 6 times, 3 at 5k and another 3 at 10k. Once this is done, we self destruct our ships and beg the Russian space gods to bring us victory in battle. We then local spam for exactly 2 minutes and podjump back to goonspace. IRC and ED are interfering with a very important goon ritual, we will not stand by and allow it to happen. We do this in a Rifter, right? hey let me know when you guys are going to do that thing again ill get my corpmate to DD you guys!! nothing better to please the god(s) than a giant ball of glowing death and destruction!! nah man, it's cool, we did it to ourselves already
penifSMASH Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 06:14:00 - [61] it's gonna take a lot of ratting to replace that
Mikel Banks Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 06:20:00 - [62] Cool a decent scam free jm24
HannibaI Gallente OMNYX Red Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.26 06:21:00 - [63] Originally by: Gobblock Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:28:55 Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:27:38 It seems intrepid crossing wont be attacking any new areas anytime soon. I seem to have misplaced their things. Yes that is roughly a titans worth of parts. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7153/112h.jpg http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1962/ed3copy.jpg There is alot more than is in this screenshot. Haven't tried counting it all, but using round numbers its easily 200b. Respect guys! I`ll buy all Naglfars. Make contract on me wright on that stantion. :)
GenrlBaconbits Caldari Southern Cross Empire	Posted - 2009.03.26 06:30:00 - [64] Originally by: LASER WATCHERhey let me know when you guys are going to do that thing again ill get my corpmate to DD you guys!! nothing better to please the god(s) than a giant ball of glowing death and destruction!![/quote nah man, it's cool, we did it to ourselves already aww...mind if i watch next time? and possibly NOT loose my ship or get podded? i dislike goonies with a passion...keep up the trolling. woo go new .BoB.
Eacham Graeme Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2009.03.26 06:56:00 - [65] Originally by: Gobblock Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:28:55 Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:27:38 It seems intrepid crossing wont be attacking any new areas anytime soon. I seem to have misplaced their things. Yes that is roughly a titans worth of parts. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7153/112h.jpg http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1962/ed3copy.jpg There is alot more than is in this screenshot. Haven't tried counting it all, but using round numbers its easily 200b. You know, I'm just not that impressed. It's one thing to attack an enemy and defeat him on the field of battle, but this just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. You shot your load...How many titans could that spy have had access to? Premature Hijackulation! Flame away...
Dangerously Cheesey Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 07:30:00 - [66] Originally by: Eacham Graeme Originally by: Gobblock Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:28:55 Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:27:38 It seems intrepid crossing wont be attacking any new areas anytime soon. I seem to have misplaced their things. Yes that is roughly a titans worth of parts. http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7153/112h.jpg http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1962/ed3copy.jpg There is alot more than is in this screenshot. Haven't tried counting it all, but using round numbers its easily 200b. You know, I'm just not that impressed. It's one thing to attack an enemy and defeat him on the field of battle, but this just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. You shot your load...How many titans could that spy have had access to? Premature Hijackulation! Flame away... Ya 30+ cap ships, hundreds of battleships, most of a titans worth of cap components, mineral stockpiles, logistical framework, etc etc. Definitely one of the worst high level spy burnings ever - its not like this alliance that was just gutted of its assets and ability to make war was at the core of an invasion of the territory of one of our longest standing brosefs.
Scatim Helicon Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 08:02:00 - [67] Oh my (Give me a nidhoggur TIA)
Scatim Helicon Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 08:03:00 - [68] Originally by: Eacham Graeme You shot your load...How many titans could that spy have had access to? Premature Hijackulation! Yes I know that IRC had at least a couple of constructed titans docked in their outposts OHWAIT
Giganticus Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 08:32:00 - [69] can i have a naglfar? it's not like anyone else would ever fly one... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Zancle Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 08:37:00 - [70] Originally by: Eacham Graeme You know, I'm just not that impressed. It's one thing to attack an enemy and defeat him on the field of battle, but this just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. You shot your load...How many titans could that spy have had access to? Premature Hijackulation! Flame away... Yes, why oh why did he not use his hangar access to steal all those docked titans. I would totally do that. I steal docked titans every day. This theft is no doubt a total failure. It is only ~200B isk in assets. Pocket change.
Myz Toyou Minmatar Ministry of Destruction SCUM.	Posted - 2009.03.26 08:40:00 - [71] Your stuffz, has can I ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [gold]Your signature image exceeds the maximum allo
Xuejie Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 09:41:00 - [72] Originally by: Ceros X do not **** with ra
Garax Obama Gallente Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2009.03.26 10:38:00 - [73] This is a very good example how Goonswarm are going with their ally's they even infiltrate blue alliances with directorship spy's keep it coming NC, Goonswarm have already spy's with directorship rights in a couple of your corps, if you don't continoue to bring it you are the next with empty corphangar's
Zak'eni Amarr Somali Coastguard Authority	Posted - 2009.03.26 10:51:00 - [74] Originally by: Garax Obama This is a very good example how Goonswarm are going with their ally's they even infiltrate blue alliances with directorship spy's keep it coming NC, Goonswarm have already spy's with directorship rights in a couple of your corps, if you don't continoue to bring it you are the next with empty corphangar's Agreed. If only there was some kind of difference between having been great allies and deploying to fight and then suddenly not "bringing it", and attacking someone's oldest allies... If only... Clearly, the NC's situation mirrors IRC's completely. Stupid g00nies have no honour...
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.03.26 11:03:00 - [75] Originally by: Garax Obama This is a very good example how Goonswarm are going with their ally's they even infiltrate blue alliances with directorship spy's keep it coming NC, Goonswarm have already spy's with directorship rights in a couple of your corps, if you don't continoue to bring it you are the next with empty corphangar's I would call it a contingency, if your "friend" backstabs you - you have a means to put it to him where it hurts.
Psilocin Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 11:13:00 - [76] Quote: You know, I'm just not that impressed. It's one thing to attack an enemy and defeat him on the field of battle, but this just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. You shot your load...How many titans could that spy have had access to? Premature Hijackulation! Flame away... Good thing that we don't play this game to impress pubbies then, isn't it? FOFOFOOOO!
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 11:14:00 - [77] Originally by: Ilsea Also nice pull gobblock It's always slightly unsettling receiving random comments about your pulling.
bluebeyond Gallente DEATHFUNK Doctrine.	Posted - 2009.03.26 11:49:00 - [78] Originally by: Gobblock Posting to celebrate goonswarm accepting THE INTERNET. into goonswarm. dungars sister.txt And Irc: first we got your fcs then we got your hangers LMAO quote of the week!!!!!!
Murrior Amarr Caldari Deep Space Ventures	Posted - 2009.03.26 11:51:00 - [79] What's funny with ze goons is that they all have this l33t attitude and in the same time they all reply or speak in the same way. The Tubeswarm? Reminds you or those moronic groups of supernatural context with the free brainwash for each member. It's not about e-hono(u)r or all that crap you troll on and constantly repeat with your swarm but ruining the fun of those you play with and the fact that you don't give a **** about it. And it's not just your pathetic eve swarm, you had exactly the same attitude in other mmos. You have been banned from one for doing much worse than what you are charging BoB of doing. Congrats on incarnating the absolute of failure. My regards.
Psilocin Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 12:05:00 - [80] Originally by: Murrior What's funny with ze goons is that they all have this l33t attitude and in the same time they all reply or speak in the same way. The Tubeswarm? Reminds you or those moronic groups of supernatural context with the free brainwash for each member. It's not about e-hono(u)r or all that crap you troll on and constantly repeat with your swarm but ruining the fun of those you play with and the fact that you don't give a ** about it. And it's not just your pathetic eve swarm, you had exactly the same attitude in other mmos. You have been banned from one for doing much worse than what you are charging BoB of doing. Congrats on incarnating the absolute of failure. My regards. u mad? FOFOFOOOO!**
Yarik Mendel Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.26 12:20:00 - [81] How could IRC forget what happened to Smash/Atlas? They were right there, involved and all...
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 12:26:00 - [82] Originally by: Murrior What's funny with ze goons is that they all have this l33t attitude and in the same time they all reply or speak in the same way. The Tubeswarm? Reminds you or those moronic groups of supernatural context with the free brainwash for each member. It's not about e-hono(u)r or all that crap you troll on and constantly repeat with your swarm but ruining the fun of those you play with and the fact that you don't give a **** about it. And it's not just your pathetic eve swarm, you had exactly the same attitude in other mmos. You have been banned from one for doing much worse than what you are charging BoB of doing. Congrats on incarnating the absolute of failure. My regards. so what you're saying is you don't like griefers? oh my, this is a radical sentiment~
w00tle Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 12:28:00 - [83] Originally by: Yarik Mendel How could IRC forget what happened to Smash/Atlas? They were right there, involved and all... quoting cause loooooooooooooooooooooool you aren't seriously trying to make that comparison are you?
azmodeun Amarr Thurisaz Robotics Corporation The Fifth Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.26 12:38:00 - [84] Edited by: azmodeun on 26/03/2009 12:41:00 Originally by: Generalissima I've often wondered how much better this game would be if both BOB/Kenny/Beaver/Kenny and Goons were all ejected from the game, because both groups are equally despicable and harmful. If all those that you mentioned would leave the game, then 50% of Fun would go as well. Not to mention 100% forum fun which would leave me bored as hell at work... It takes ballz and skillz to pull those "despicable and harmful" stunts, so I salute them. BTW all this drama made 3 of my friends to join the game so keep it coming
Murrior Amarr Caldari Deep Space Ventures	Posted - 2009.03.26 12:41:00 - [85] Edited by: Murrior on 26/03/2009 12:43:11 Quote: so what you're saying is you don't like griefers? oh my, this is a radical sentiment~ Everything is relative buddy. When you 1st, disband an alliance just because you can and 2nd, ruin peoples' fun by stealing their assets and disabling them from fighting again just because you can it proves exactly the opposite of your claims. That you are taking this game too seriously. Doing things just because you can, that's just about the intellect or reasoning of a moron. Regards.
Kulmid Minmatar Asshats and Alcoholics Turbo.	Posted - 2009.03.26 12:53:00 - [86] Edited by: Kulmid on 26/03/2009 12:55:03 Originally by: Murrior Edited by: Murrior on 26/03/2009 12:43:11 Everything is relative buddy. When you 1st, disband an alliance just because you can and 2nd, ruin peoples' fun by stealing their assets and disabling them from fighting again just because you can it proves exactly the opposite of your claims. That you are taking this game too seriously. Doing things just because you can, that's just about the intellect or reasoning of a moron. Regards. IRC is happy to bring 8 falcons to engage our 5 man gangs and ruin our fun, just because they can. Jamming every ship you are engaging disables us from fighting. Obviously they are taking the game too seriously if they wish this upon their enemy. Karma swings full round eventually. _________________
Yarik Mendel Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.26 13:00:00 - [87] Originally by: w00tle Originally by: Yarik Mendel How could IRC forget what happened to Smash/Atlas? They were right there, involved and all... quoting cause loooooooooooooooooooooool you aren't seriously trying to make that comparison are you? school me
YuKanChu Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 13:07:00 - [88] Edited by: YuKanChu on 26/03/2009 13:06:49 Originally by: w00tle Originally by: Yarik Mendel How could IRC forget what happened to Smash/Atlas? They were right there, involved and all... quoting cause loooooooooooooooooooooool you aren't seriously trying to make that comparison are you? well, its just another example of what happens when an alliance tries to screw with RA you get f'd in the a
Jonas Cooke Minmatar Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2009.03.26 13:16:00 - [89] I hope you guys know, you just cancelled christmas for the orphans. P.S, can i have a dreadnaught?
Poopsock Alarmclock Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 13:21:00 - [90] Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: Generalissima I've often wondered how much better this game would be if both BOB/Kenny/Beaver/Kenny and Goons were all ejected from the game, because both groups are equally despicable and harmful. It's more fun this way, what goes around comes around. It did for BoB at least. MY PENDULUM Originally by: Eacham Graeme You know, I'm just not that impressed. It's one thing to attack an enemy and defeat him on the field of battle, but this just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. MY E-HONOR Originally by: Murrior Reminds you or those moronic groups of supernatural context with the free brainwash for each member. MY DUNGARMATIC
Ken Goku Gallente Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.03.26 13:28:00 - [91] That space looks pretty nice up there. Much better than that Delve ****hole because drones hell yeah. :twisted: :twisted:
Anaesthera Gallente Abrakadabra. Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.26 14:34:00 - [92] Sorry AWECO, but by the way you've been treating your members, I'm not surprised this happened. None of you "HC" ever noticed how many people have been leaving because they got sick of AWE and IRC in general. Next time, pay attention to high-level members ****ing and moaning. Either make them happy or kick them out. Ignoring the problem makes it worse, and they start convincing other people in the corp of their views, then all of a sudden 20 people leave (if you're lucky, without* all your assets. You weren't lucky this time.)
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.03.26 14:43:00 - [93] lol IRC - Contagious -
Lasakywa Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.26 14:57:00 - [94] Ouch, that must hurt.
Joakim Saxon Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 15:13:00 - [95] I wonder why no one in the IRC/ED camp has commented? Or maybe I'm just a blind stupid goon and missed it?
Totally Slick Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 15:16:00 - [96] Originally by: Joakim Saxon I wonder why no one in the IRC/ED camp has commented? Or maybe I'm just a blind stupid goon and missed it? The latter.
Joakim Saxon Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 15:21:00 - [97] Originally by: Totally Slick Originally by: Joakim Saxon I wonder why no one in the IRC/ED camp has commented? Or maybe I'm just a blind stupid goon and missed it? The latter. I figured. Well, how about some MORE IRC/ED comments.
DREAMWORKS Gallente POOPOOHEAD PATROL	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:28:00 - [98] Goons are now OFFICIAL the biggest SCAMMERS in the game(nothing to be proud of )and you are losing all respect. At the end of the day ,you are nothing but a conmen thief. DREAMWORKS __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Tronjay the'3rd Caldari Phantasmal Collective Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:32:00 - [99] Originally by: DREAMWORKS Goons are now OFFICIAL the biggest SCAMMERS in the game(nothing to be proud of )and you are losing all respect. At the end of the day ,you are nothing but a conmen thief. DREAMWORKS / SIGNED
Joakim Saxon Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:40:00 - [100] Originally by: DREAMWORKS Goons are now OFFICIAL the biggest SCAMMERS in the game(nothing to be proud of )and you are losing all respect. At the end of the day ,you are nothing but a conmen thief. DREAMWORKS Do I detect traces of bitterness? Have you perhaps been the unfortunate victim of Goonish lies in the past? Do you lay awake at night thinking of what you once had? Do you sit there and say "Well I still have my honor"? Basically, what I guess I'm trying to say is... u mad?
Marius Duvall Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:40:00 - [101] Edited by: Marius Duvall on 26/03/2009 16:40:16 Originally by: DREAMWORKS Goons are now OFFICIAL the biggest SCAMMERS in the game(nothing to be proud of )and you are losing all respect. At the end of the day ,you are nothing but a conmen thief. DREAMWORKS It's true, we're bastards DREAMWORKS
Betadurin Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:46:00 - [102] Originally by: DREAMWORKS Goons are now OFFICIAL the biggest SCAMMERS in the game(nothing to be proud of )and you are losing all respect. At the end of the day ,you are nothing but a conmen thief. DREAMWORKS "After all your s***posting, all your threadnoughts, you're nothing but a common thief." Hans Gobblock: "I am an exceptional thief, Mr. Dreamworks."
DREAMWORKS Gallente POOPOOHEAD PATROL	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:49:00 - [103] Mad? Why would I be mad? If you cant win in a game without cheating then you are a loser. DREAMWORKS __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Aero Zolic Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:51:00 - [104] + we're bad at this game + we fly t1 frigs only
Joakim Saxon Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:51:00 - [105] Edited by: Joakim Saxon on 26/03/2009 16:53:46 Edited by: Joakim Saxon on 26/03/2009 16:51:55 Originally by: DREAMWORKS Mad? Why would I be mad? If you cant win in a game without cheating then you are a loser. DREAMWORKS Cheating? I'm sorry sir, but Goonswarm would never cheat. Lie murder and steal, yes, but never cheat. Please detail exactly where in the EVE-online rules this espionage action is considered cheating. GOONSWARM~
N'olive Minmatar Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:52:00 - [106] Real question is definately "Why 17 f***g useless Bellicoses ?!?" _______________ Olivier C. - My Eve videos - Battlefieldz Serie (french-dubbed and Eve-themed spoofs)*
Rand Paul Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:53:00 - [107] Originally by: DREAMWORKS Mad? Why would I be mad? If you cant win in a game without cheating then you are a loser. DREAMWORKS AGREE 100% PERCENT DREAMWORKS
DREAMWORKS Gallente POOPOOHEAD PATROL	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:57:00 - [108] All the same to me SIR. DREAMWORKS __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Ironnight Caldari x13 X13 Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:58:00 - [109] Wasnt IRC blue to goons? They're like 'oh **** son, its a trap Doomsday
rValdez5987 Amarr PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2009.03.26 16:59:00 - [110] Originally by: Marius Duvall Edited by: Marius Duvall on 26/03/2009 16:40:16 Originally by: DREAMWORKS Goons are now OFFICIAL the biggest SCAMMERS in the game(nothing to be proud of )and you are losing all respect. At the end of the day ,you are nothing but a conmen thief. DREAMWORKS It's true, we're bastards DREAMWORKS I'm going to be kicked out for poasting (not that I ever really cared to begin with lol) I laughed pretty hard when this came out. Not sure how much isk worth of stuff was lost, numbers all over the place from 200 bil to 1 trillion isk. In the chats I have access to everyone is shrugging it off but frankly you don't shrug this kinda loss off I mean cmon, guys that had you blue (until recently) just ripped you off, and all because you got greedy and decided to take a region from one of the most infamous alliances in eve. Add to that attacking a system with significant historical importance and then almost losing a titan in your own home system.... Well basically IRC is getting what it deserves. I never confirmed for myself if Oldma is really as paranoid and annoying as most claim, but I trust Farham. Furthermore I just want to take the time to laugh at the fact that PRCP recruited me without questioning me about my corp history, or the fact that I said I've been playing since 2005 (but this char was created in 07) Proof that they will take anyone. Which is usually proof that an alliance won't live for very long. I also want to congratulate the thief. UNLIMITED DREAMWORKS
DREAMWORKS Gallente POOPOOHEAD PATROL	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:06:00 - [111] Hmm __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Marcus Riegn Minmatar Blue Team	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:15:00 - [112] one wonders how people get to run big alliances while being this naive about the nature of this game... Really though this leads me to draw some interesting conclusions: IRC was nominally an ally of the goons up until a week ago This spy was a director and had access to alliance resources If he had that kind of access he was most likely embedded while IRC was still Friendly. Thus any alliance currently friendly with goon probably has similar moles, if their security hasn't caught them. The goons have always been known for duplicity, scamming, dishonor, what have you, they derive much of their amusement from screwing other people over. As soon as Delve and Querious are secured they won't need allies to hold onto it *If history is anything to go by, As their current enemies stop being 'fun' they'll start looking at their allies. so as the clock ticks down to Sov 3 in delve, it looks like things are going to get a lot more interesting in the near future, hope everyone friend and foe alike has a good system in place to guard against theft...
rValdez5987 Amarr PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:15:00 - [113] Originally by: DREAMWORKS Hmm ~YoU bE sPeEcHlEsS~* NEVARFORGET UNLIMITED DREAMWORKS
Harry Craig2 Gallente Abrakadabra. Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:19:00 - [114] Originally by: Marcus Riegn *If he had that kind of access he was most likely embedded while IRC was still Friendly. Don't forget that it's very possible that the director didn't have anything to do with goons up until a week or two ago. Maybe this war thing has caused some people to act 'strange' :)
BiaXia Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:20:00 - [115] Originally by: Ironnight Wasnt IRC blue to goons? We reset them once they decided it would be a good idea to attack C-J6. It was the system that RA had their great comeback a few years back and one of the first places that goons lived in outside of syndicate. I'd be a lot more excited to take part in this if I wasn't so sure that RA would have this handled by the time we're done with Delve and PB.
rValdez5987 Amarr PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:21:00 - [116] Originally by: Marcus Riegn one wonders how people get to run big alliances while being this naive about the nature of this game... Really though this leads me to draw some interesting conclusions: IRC was nominally an ally of the goons up until a week ago This spy was a director and had access to alliance resources If he had that kind of access he was most likely embedded while IRC was still Friendly. Thus any alliance currently friendly with goon probably has similar moles, if their security hasn't caught them. The goons have always been known for duplicity, scamming, dishonor, what have you, they derive much of their amusement from screwing other people over. As soon as Delve and Querious are secured they won't need allies to hold onto it *If history is anything to go by, As their current enemies stop being 'fun' they'll start looking at their allies. so as the clock ticks down to Sov 3 in delve, it looks like things are going to get a lot more interesting in the near future, hope everyone friend and foe alike has a good system in place to guard against theft... IRC was an ally until they did something insanely stupid, you can guess what that is. yes yes duh yes, but its ok because only stupid people or pubbies (lolsamething) get scammed. will have to see how that plays out, but everyone needs allies from time to time. yes lol
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:35:00 - [117] dear irc: i've made an 'offer' to your leadership regarding how you can get your stuff back~ if this offer is ignored more bad things will happen to your little group hope this helps (get you out of insmother)
rValdez5987 Amarr PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:38:00 - [118] Originally by: The Mittani dear irc: i've made an 'offer' to your leadership regarding how you can get your stuff back~ if this offer is ignored more bad things will happen to your little group hope this helps (get you out of insmother) And here I was just about to ask you if you archived the forums. (probably not :effort:)
Sir Marksalot Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:42:00 - [119] Originally by: YuKanChu Edited by: YuKanChu on 26/03/2009 13:06:49 Originally by: w00tle Originally by: Yarik Mendel How could IRC forget what happened to Smash/Atlas? They were right there, involved and all... quoting cause loooooooooooooooooooooool you aren't seriously trying to make that comparison are you? well, its just another example of what happens when an alliance tries to screw with RA you get f'd in the a Screw with RA, get F'd in the A. Can we have a cool space slogan too?
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:42:00 - [120] i give no ****s about irc's forums these people are entirely irrelevant but i'll continue to make them suffer if they don't get out of insmother but surely we have nothing else up our sleeve the gia is a myth and a bunch of goonie propaganda empty threats fly away silly mitten~~~
Sir Marksalot Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:43:00 - [121] Originally by: Tronjay the'3rd Originally by: DREAMWORKS Goons are now OFFICIAL the biggest SCAMMERS in the game(nothing to be proud of )and you are losing all respect. At the end of the day ,you are nothing but a conmen thief. DREAMWORKS / SIGNED / SIGNED
Scruffy Jed Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:44:00 - [122] I didn't think it would get any funnier than IRC thinking they even had a chance. I was wrong.
rValdez5987 Amarr PROGENITOR CORPORATION	Posted - 2009.03.26 17:46:00 - [123] Originally by: The Mittani i give no **s about irc's forums these people are entirely irrelevant but i'll continue to make them suffer if they don't get out of insmother but surely we have nothing else up our sleeve the gia is a myth and a bunch of goonie propaganda empty threats fly away silly mitten~~~ Personally if it was me I'd keep the ** and demand they pay a ransom (followed by invading their space anyway)
Funky Feeling Caldari Ventis Secundis Aggression.	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:48:00 - [124] All this shows is that IRC are tards and the goons are exactly as the rest of eve already knows....not worthy of any trust whatsoever. Anyone blue with the goons is set up for the same...then again.. birds of a feather and all that bull5h1t
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:53:00 - [125] Edited by: rValdez5987 on 26/03/2009 19:56:41 Originally by: Funky Feeling All this shows is that IRC are tards and the goons are exactly as the rest of eve already knows....not worthy of any trust whatsoever. Anyone blue with the goons is set up for the same...then again.. birds of a feather and all that bull5h1t IRC are tards regardless of who they are blue to. The fact that they think they could honestly pull this crap is beyond me. Im calling it now: Unless IRC makes a deal to bail themselves out, they will not exist as an EVE spaceholding alliance within the next 3 months. I'm wagering 100 mil isk. Any takers? btw if anyone wants IRC jump bridge bookmarks let me know. I don't know if they are real or fake, and don't really care. Evemail me in game and ill put them on contract to you for free. HARD MODE: You have be in an alliance or corp that I know who you are.
Talzaris Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 19:56:00 - [126] Originally by: Funky Feeling All this shows is that IRC are tards and the goons are exactly as the rest of eve already knows....not worthy of any trust whatsoever. Anyone blue with the goons is set up for the same...then again.. birds of a feather and all that bull5h1t IRC isn't blue. They started a war with one of our longest standing allies and were promptly reset. Maybe they should've thought about what they were doing beforehand. IRC brought this on themselves by having horrible security and turning on their allies.
Murrior Amarr Caldari Deep Space Ventures	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:08:00 - [127] Originally by: The Mittani i give no ****s about irc's forums these people are entirely irrelevant but i'll continue to make them suffer if they don't get out of insmother but surely we have nothing else up our sleeve the gia is a myth and a bunch of goonie propaganda empty threats fly away silly mitten~~~ uuuuuu, whut a tuf guz dis iz. uuuuu, hiz sooo hawt wun hiz baddd, uuuuuu uuuu uuuu. Pathetic.
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.26 20:14:00 - [128] just thought id share this because I laughed. [ 2009.03.26 18:30:37 ] Phrost6 > whats the deal with our damn forums [ 2009.03.26 18:30:55 ] Nagatok > you mean the fact they are down? [ 2009.03.26 18:30:56 ] Private Langvann > People suspects its bc of bob Damnit BOB. Even in death you killed IRC forums.
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.26 21:23:00 - [129] sigh you would think they could read the alliance mail to figure out why the forums are down. Hint: it is the most recent one from Dibrle with members like rvaldez I cant believe IRC doesnt realize the trouble its in... but then populating yourself with everyone you can get your hands on while planning to fight a group of enemies that are notorious for spies and thefts etc is a great plan c/d -------------------- Ur Sig sucks, GTFO. Navigator
Attak Minmatar Trioptimum	Posted - 2009.03.26 23:04:00 - [130] Massive irony: IRC/ED bought that region from Goons to begin with. Hard to have foreseen just how expensive the price would be!
Professor Dumbledore Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.26 23:20:00 - [131] Originally by: Attak Massive irony: IRC/ED bought that region from Goons to begin with. Hard to have foreseen just how expensive the price would be! And has they not attacked RA in CJ- they would still be fine but you dont go crossing us if you want to stay in 0.0 ^_^
Bonny Lee Caldari The Guardian Agency Guardian Federation	Posted - 2009.03.26 23:57:00 - [132] So you killed some nice pewpew for RA and IRC? Isnt that the reason we play the game? Good friends you are for sure.
BiaXia Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 00:01:00 - [133] Originally by: Bonny Lee So you killed some nice pewpew for RA and IRC? Isnt that the reason we play the game? Good friends you are for sure. What difference does it make? RA was going to roll over them incredibly hard, and they have bigger things to worry about, IRC and ED are speedbumps.
Snowden Vel Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 01:29:00 - [134] Originally by: Bonny Lee So you killed some nice pewpew for RA and IRC? Isnt that the reason we play the game? Much like Kenzoku, the only reason we still exist is to provide a meatshield for our Russian masters.
arbiter reborn Caldari Shut Up And Play	Posted - 2009.03.27 01:37:00 - [135] Originally by: Rawr Cristina lol IRC military experts are calling this a corp theft
Al'Htaed Minmatar Hug Nutz	Posted - 2009.03.27 01:41:00 - [136] Edited by: Al''Htaed on 27/03/2009 01:46:00 Still trying to decide how funny it is how much the goons are becoming like BoB. Picking a small target, meta game **** them and then talk mountains of smack on CAOD. Yup just like BoB. IRC/ED vs RA&Co was going to be an interesting war, yet someone had to meta game spoil that. I even used to like Goons. TCF is still cool in my book though
Elo Behram Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 01:49:00 - [137] Originally by: Eacham Graeme You know, I'm just not that impressed. It's one thing to attack an enemy and defeat him on the field of battle, but this just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. You shot your load...How many titans could that spy have had access to? Premature Hijackulation! Flame away... wait i'm confused is your problem that scamming is bad or that we didn't scam enough i don't speak pubbie ~
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.27 01:53:00 - [138] Edited by: rValdez5987 on 27/03/2009 01:53:31 Originally by: Shardrael sigh you would think they could read the alliance mail to figure out why the forums are down. Hint: it is the most recent one from Dibrle with members like rvaldez I cant believe IRC doesnt realize the trouble its in... but then populating yourself with everyone you can get your hands on while planning to fight a group of enemies that are notorious for spies and thefts etc is a great plan c/d I'm glad that you don't think highly of me. Regardless it's a shame that my original plan never came to fruition. As always Goonswarm is a step ahead. Well played. also, CCCC C CCCC
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.27 01:57:00 - [139] Originally by: Elo Behram Originally by: Eacham Graeme You know, I'm just not that impressed. It's one thing to attack an enemy and defeat him on the field of battle, but this just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. You shot your load...How many titans could that spy have had access to? Premature Hijackulation! Flame away... wait i'm confused is your problem that scamming is bad or that we didn't scam enough i don't speak pubbie He is trying to say that he's mad that you don't practice space bushido.
Al'Htaed Minmatar Hug Nutz	Posted - 2009.03.27 01:59:00 - [140] Originally by: Elo Behram Originally by: Eacham Graeme You know, I'm just not that impressed. It's one thing to attack an enemy and defeat him on the field of battle, but this just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth. You shot your load...How many titans could that spy have had access to? Premature Hijackulation! Flame away... wait i'm confused is your problem that scamming is bad or that we didn't scam enough i don't speak pubbie If RA&Co can walk over IRC/ED then why even bother with crippling IRC by stealing all their assets? If indeed that's all their ships (which is not a lot for a 0.0 alliance) why not let them slug it out. Especially when considering that IRC helped save Darius's Leviathan. It was a low move imo.
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:00:00 - [141] Originally by: rValdez5987 Edited by: rValdez5987 on 27/03/2009 01:53:31 Originally by: Shardrael sigh you would think they could read the alliance mail to figure out why the forums are down. Hint: it is the most recent one from Dibrle with members like rvaldez I cant believe IRC doesnt realize the trouble its in... but then populating yourself with everyone you can get your hands on while planning to fight a group of enemies that are notorious for spies and thefts etc is a great plan c/d I'm glad that you don't think highly of me. Regardless it's a shame that my original plan never came to fruition. As always Goonswarm is a step ahead. Well played. also, CCCC C CCCC It is not that I dont think highly about you, I dont care about you one way or another, you were merely a point I was trying to make, recruiting practices that they have been warned against time and time again seem to be coming back to hurt them, not so much with the theft but more with players convoing RA and selling pos passwords for 500 mil and players convoing us and other ex irc to try and sell off corp hangars and stuff.... Sorry guys we dont want to buy some IRC corps corp hangar from you so its a waste of time convoing us about it. -------------------- Ur Sig sucks, GTFO. Navigator
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:05:00 - [142] Originally by: Shardrael Originally by: rValdez5987 Edited by: rValdez5987 on 27/03/2009 01:53:31 Originally by: Shardrael sigh you would think they could read the alliance mail to figure out why the forums are down. Hint: it is the most recent one from Dibrle with members like rvaldez I cant believe IRC doesnt realize the trouble its in... but then populating yourself with everyone you can get your hands on while planning to fight a group of enemies that are notorious for spies and thefts etc is a great plan c/d I'm glad that you don't think highly of me. Regardless it's a shame that my original plan never came to fruition. As always Goonswarm is a step ahead. Well played. also, CCCC C CCCC It is not that I dont think highly about you, I dont care about you one way or another, you were merely a point I was trying to make, recruiting practices that they have been warned against time and time again seem to be coming back to hurt them, not so much with the theft but more with players convoing RA and selling pos passwords for 500 mil and players convoing us and other ex irc to try and sell off corp hangars and stuff.... Sorry guys we dont want to buy some IRC corps corp hangar from you so its a waste of time convoing us about it. I got you shardrael. Not caring who I am is a good thing. And as I think I said before, I was surprised when my app was accepted because personally I wouldn't even recruit me. It's just too bad that I wasted a month and accomplished nothing this time.
ChowMung Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:09:00 - [143] Originally by: Al'Htaed If RA&Co can walk over IRC/ED then why even bother with crippling IRC by stealing all their assets? If indeed that's all their ships (which is not a lot for a 0.0 alliance) why not let them slug it out. Hmmmmm good question. Why take 200b in assets from an alliance you are no longer friendly with... It is a mystery. Originally by: Al'Htaed Especially when considering that IRC helped save Darius's Leviathan. IRC made Evil Thug ignorant of sov mechanics...
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:14:00 - [144] OMG I missed that bit you said about IRC saving the goon titan.... Wow you need to learn your history better, this is actually one of the events that made us most vocal in our frustration before they booted us. IRC never even made it into the target region to defend the titan for what was supposed to be a one or two week long deployment. We had been asked and accepted the goons request to move everything we have to Tenerifis for the time to make sure no one can abort the titan. IRC managed to get as far as detroid and then stopped to rat and never fight anyone.... The only reason that titan didnt die and IRC get labeled absolute failures and worthless allies is that AAA were even more of a bunch of worthless failures.... but thanks for the laugh al'htaed, truly wow -------------------- Ur Sig sucks, GTFO. Navigator
Al'Htaed Minmatar Hug Nutz	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:16:00 - [145] Originally by: ChowMung Originally by: Al'Htaed If RA&Co can walk over IRC/ED then why even bother with crippling IRC by stealing all their assets? If indeed that's all their ships (which is not a lot for a 0.0 alliance) why not let them slug it out. Hmmmmm good question. Why take 200b in assets from an alliance you are no longer friendly with... It is a mystery. So what you're saying is that from this point on PL and NC should always do what you tell them or else a deep spy you infiltrated will scam them. Thanks for the clarification. Originally by: ChowMung Originally by: Al'Htaed Especially when considering that IRC helped save Darius's Leviathan. IRC made Evil Thug ignorant of sov mechanics... Even though Evil Thug failed to learn sov mechanics, they were still there to protect it.
Ceros X Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:19:00 - [146] Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: ChowMung Originally by: Al'Htaed If RA&Co can walk over IRC/ED then why even bother with crippling IRC by stealing all their assets? If indeed that's all their ships (which is not a lot for a 0.0 alliance) why not let them slug it out. Hmmmmm good question. Why take 200b in assets from an alliance you are no longer friendly with... It is a mystery. So what you're saying is that from this point on PL and NC should always do what you tell them or else a deep spy you infiltrated will scam them. Thanks for the clarification. Originally by: ChowMung Originally by: Al'Htaed Especially when considering that IRC helped save Darius's Leviathan. IRC made Evil Thug ignorant of sov mechanics... Even though Evil Thug failed to learn sov mechanics, they were still there to protect it. no the message here is really simple : do not **** with ra
Harry Craig2 Gallente Abrakadabra. Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:25:00 - [147] Originally by: Al'Htaed Even though Evil Thug failed to learn sov mechanics, they were still there to protect it. Yea, I'm pretty sure IRC kept it very safe even after repeated attacks of the angel cartel against innocent ravens in belts.
Joakim Saxon Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:26:00 - [148] Originally by: Al'Htaed If RA&Co can walk over IRC/ED then why even bother with crippling IRC by stealing all their assets? If indeed that's all their ships (which is not a lot for a 0.0 alliance) why not let them slug it out. Why waste time and resources killing ships when you can simply steal them and gain resources? Either way you win, so why not sweeten the deal?
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:26:00 - [149] Quote: do not **** with ra
Al'Htaed Minmatar Hug Nutz	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:35:00 - [150] Originally by: Ceros X no the message here is really simple : do not **** with ra The question of using deep level spies in your friendly alliances is still unanswered though. Should NC and PL trust you? I think not.
Reverand Pastor Caldari DEATHFUNK Doctrine.	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:44:00 - [151] Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: Ceros X no the message here is really simple : do not **** with ra The question of using deep level spies in your friendly alliances is still unanswered though. Should NC and PL trust you? I think not. This. Only two things can happen from this point. You and NC remain BFF'S wich means there is a napfest unlike any ever seen before. Or the Nap is temp and hostile commence.The moment NC or any of your allies decide to go there own way you will basically metagame the crap outta them by your own admission. P.s "we stole because there is more important things for RA to do" is lame. last time i cheked all the isk, ships accumulated in game were meant to be blown up. But I guess you contol there game now...
Ceros X Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:44:00 - [152] Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: Ceros X no the message here is really simple : do not ** with ra The question of using deep level spies in your friendly alliances is still unanswered though. Should NC and PL trust you? I think not. are they going to ** with ra?
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:45:00 - [153] Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: Ceros X no the message here is really simple : do not ** with ra The question of using deep level spies in your friendly alliances is still unanswered though. Should NC and PL trust you? I think not. There have been much better attempts to drive wedges between our naptrain. Post with your main Hi, my name is Flinx, and I am a recovering nano*
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:48:00 - [154] Originally by: Reverand Pastor Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: Ceros X no the message here is really simple : do not **** with ra The question of using deep level spies in your friendly alliances is still unanswered though. Should NC and PL trust you? I think not. This. Only two things can happen from this point. You and NC remain BFF'S wich means there is a napfest unlike any ever seen before. Or the Nap is temp and hostile commence.The moment NC or any of your allies decide to go there own way you will basically metagame the crap outta them by your own admission. P.s "we stole because there is more important things for RA to do" is lame. last time i cheked all the isk, ships accumulated in game were meant to be blown up. But I guess you contol there game now... All naps are temporary. Sooner or later you have to wake up. (pun intended) But that doesn't mean that relations will go sour over this crap which is ultimately pretty funny.
Al'Htaed Minmatar Hug Nutz	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:49:00 - [155] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: Ceros X no the message here is really simple : do not **** with ra The question of using deep level spies in your friendly alliances is still unanswered though. Should NC and PL trust you? I think not. There have been much better attempts to drive wedges between our naptrain. Post with your main I happen to like NC and PL. How can you not ask yourself the question I ask? To not wonder what kind of ally Goons are after this would be incredibly naive.
FTKirk Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:49:00 - [156] Edited by: FTKirk on 27/03/2009 02:53:32 Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: Ceros X no the message here is really simple : do not ** with ra The question of using deep level spies in your friendly alliances is still unanswered though. Should NC and PL trust you? I think not. It's probably not a good idea for NC or PL to ** with RA either.
Al'Htaed Minmatar Hug Nutz	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:50:00 - [157] Originally by: FTKirk Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: Ceros X no the message here is really simple : do not **** with ra The question of using deep level spies in your friendly alliances is still unanswered though. Should NC and PL trust you? I think not. It's probably not a good idea for NC or PL to attack RA either. The spy was in IRC way before they ever attacked RA from what I understand.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:52:00 - [158] Originally by: Al'Htaed How can you not ask yourself the question I ask? To not wonder what kind of ally Goons are after this would be incredibly naive. I don't know, something to do with our own intel network maybe You may have heard of it...I think he has website Hi, my name is Flinx, and I am a recovering nano***
Al'Htaed Minmatar Hug Nutz	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:53:00 - [159] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Al'Htaed How can you not ask yourself the question I ask? To not wonder what kind of ally Goons are after this would be incredibly naive. I don't know, something to do with our own intel network maybe You may have heard of it...I think he has website Faithful reader here ;)
Reverand Pastor Caldari DEATHFUNK Doctrine.	Posted - 2009.03.27 02:56:00 - [160] The spy was in IRC way before they ever attacked RA from what I understand. And if there are metagamers in a "fail" alliance like IRC I would say that there are quite a few in the other major powers. Im not in any position to drive any kind of wedge but common sense should tell you this is true. Metagaming is the new pvp and I hope you dont think your immune.
FTKirk Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.27 03:06:00 - [161] Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: FTKirk Originally by: Al'Htaed Alt posting is not allowed.Applebabe It's probably not a good idea for NC or PL to attack RA either. The spy was in IRC way before they ever attacked RA from what I understand. Goons have been on the outs with IRC for a while (loosing Titan in R-6, IRC trying to take moons in Kalevala, IRC allowing groups to launch attacks against Goons from within their space). Point is, it took something really big to cause them to pull the trigger. I'm guessing that unless NC is planning on joining AAA your main will likely be ok, even if you have minor disagreements with the Goons.
Joakim Saxon Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 03:08:00 - [162] Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: FTKirk Originally by: Al'Htaed Alt posting is not allowed.Applebabe It's probably not a good idea for NC or PL to attack RA either. The spy was in IRC way before they ever attacked RA from what I understand. You're also assuming its a deliberately planted spy and not some goon acting independently or an angry, previously loyal director turning rogue.
BiaXia Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 03:12:00 - [163] Edited by: BiaXia on 27/03/2009 03:16:38 I really wonder how different the opinion of this would be if it was The GHSC that did this as opposed to Goonswarm. Originally by: Reverand Pastor P.s "we stole because there is more important things for RA to do" is lame. last time i cheked all the isk, ships accumulated in game were meant to be blown up. But I guess you control there game now... Right, and now they'll be put to use somewhere that actually matters. RA would have annihilated IRC and ED without any problems, and the most likely thing to happen with the stolen assets is for them to be sold. To RA, do you see where I'm going with this? RA will roll through there in a matter of weeks, possibly take some new space in the drone regions, and then go on to fight an alliance that actually matters.
Totally Slick Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 03:43:00 - [164] My magic crystal ball says that I'm gay in the future.
BiaXia Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 03:51:00 - [165] Originally by: Totally Slick My magic crystal ball says that I'm gay in the future. My heart tells me that I'm gay in the present. For you.
Mantra Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 04:06:00 - [166] Originally by: BiaXia Originally by: Totally Slick My magic crystal ball says that I'm gay in the future. My heart tells me that I'm gay in the present. For you. Military experts are calling this a man train
GenrlBaconbits Caldari Southern Cross Empire	Posted - 2009.03.27 04:10:00 - [167] Originally by: DREAMWORKS Goons are now OFFICIAL the biggest SCAMMERS in the game(nothing to be proud of )and you are losing all respect. At the end of the day ,you are nothing but a conmen thief. DREAMWORKS you know what? after this i actually LIKE goons... i dont know what changed it but now i would LOVE to be in goonswarm... someone please slap come common sense into me before i attempt to join them... otherwise i might end up fighting my idles... hmm i now consider goonswarm an OK alliance... WTF is wrong with me...
Xuejie Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 04:15:00 - [168] Originally by: Xuejie Originally by: Ceros X do not **** with ra I think some people are missing the point.
The Mittani Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 04:29:00 - [169] the threatening noises of mittens are easily ignored because mittens are not very intimidating :(((((((((((
Yunii Gallente Black Serpent Technologies Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.03.27 04:41:00 - [170] Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: FTKirk Originally by: Al'Htaed Alt posting is not allowed.Applebabe It's probably not a good idea for NC or PL to attack RA either. The spy was in IRC way before they ever attacked RA from what I understand. Yes they were. Not really a spy though, more like a traitor. Does the saggy titts member want to admit it publicly yet? Of not we'll have an official statement on the matter in due time. ------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Arkanon I think this thread also illustrates perfectly that we neither censor nor do we try to silence our customers.
GenrlBaconbits Caldari Southern Cross Empire	Posted - 2009.03.27 05:03:00 - [171] Originally by: The Mittani the threatening noises of mittens are easily ignored because mittens are not very intimidating :((((((((((( ooh nowes!!! its mittens RUUN AWAY!!! HE WILL KILL US!!... can i join GS yet? or do i get points for trying? hmm i now consider goonswarm an OK alliance... WTF is wrong with me...
Joakim Saxon Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.27 05:03:00 - [172] Edited by: Joakim Saxon on 27/03/2009 05:03:59 Originally by: Yunii Originally by: Al'Htaed Originally by: FTKirk Originally by: Al'Htaed Alt posting is not allowed.Applebabe It's probably not a good idea for NC or PL to attack RA either. The spy was in IRC way before they ever attacked RA from what I understand. Yes they were. Not really a spy though, more like a traitor. Does the saggy titts member want to admit it publicly yet? Of not we'll have an official statement on the matter in due time. Ouch, bitter. I look forward to this statement. I'm sure I'll be a great spin attempt to avoid the cascade failure that is no doubt forthcoming.
Mystafyre Caldari First Clan Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2009.03.27 05:19:00 - [173] Originally by: Xuejie Originally by: Xuejie Originally by: Ceros X do not ** with ra I think some people are missing the point. Stfu. Kill all red and I mean RED s**from TQ...
Funkcikle Gallente DEATHFUNK Doctrine.	Posted - 2009.03.27 05:28:00 - [174] Originally by: Reverand Pastor The spy was in IRC way before they ever attacked RA from what I understand. And if there are metagamers in a "fail" alliance like IRC I would say that there are quite a few in the other major powers. Im not in any position to drive any kind of wedge but common sense should tell you this is true. Metagaming is the new pvp and I hope you dont think your immune. Actually , I think we ARE immune m8, we are all poor so theres nothing to steal, and I tell everyone our plans on CAOD ( on the rare occation we have a plan) but, ok fair enough I see your point as it applies to most organisations. Now poast less and kill more randoms in haulers
Farham Gallente Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.27 05:33:00 - [175] "Yes they were. Not really a spy though, more like a traitor.Mad Does the saggy titts member want to admit it publicly yet? Of not we'll have an official statement on the matter in due time." Well an official announcement would be nice. But for any IRC member to call any member of TITTS a traitor after IRC stuck a knife directly in our backs would be comical if it wasn't pathetic. Being nice to us after the act doesn't change the fact of the matter or what happened. One last thing. If you are so certain it was a TITTS member, care to explain this? http://irc.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=2976638 Notice who is involved? Just an FYI, he was dropping off items stolen in the heist when he tried to keep more than his share so the GOONs killed him. Be very careful listening to everything you are told. Why play with a bunch of boobs when you can play with a great set of TITTS?
Armadaus Baldwin Gallente International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.03.27 05:42:00 - [176] RA has been useless since their talent defected to -A-. Goonswarm is babysitting RA, as the NC was babysitting them. Expected. Not a bad haul though, bad bad goonie... right? :) In honor of 02-05-09, and our new Goon Overlords.
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.27 06:27:00 - [177] Originally by: The Mittani the threatening noises of mittens are easily ignored because mittens are not very intimidating :((((((((((( I just decided at this very moment, If I ever get a cat, I'm naming it mittens. thanks!
CrushProject Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.03.27 08:26:00 - [178] a tragedy for sure, but i saw this coming way back when rk was still in the area. Without irc, rk+friends woulda rolled the entire dronelands. Now you are of no more use and you've given your neighbors months and months to rebuild. What did you think they were going to do with you? Make you pie? These are russians/goon we are talking about. Did you really not see this coming? ED you better pay attention, (if the rats havent kickd you guys out already rofl), what do you think is going to happen to you next?
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.27 09:04:00 - [179] confirming we somehow managed to be traitors while being "red for life" in the words of dibrle -------------------- Ur Sig sucks, GTFO. Navigator
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.27 13:58:00 - [180] also lol at how some things never change, like the last time we left getting blamed for your vent being hacked even though it turns out that was an atlas and THE INTERNET. job. although listening to the recording of that it was pretty funny how you immediately figured we were always the ones in the shadows trying to mess with you... -------------------- Ur Sig sucks, GTFO. Navigator
Holy Lowlander Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.03.27 14:37:00 - [181] Originally by: Shardrael also lol at how some things never change, like the last time we left getting blamed for your vent being hacked even though it turns out that was an atlas and THE INTERNET. job. although listening to the recording of that it was pretty funny how you immediately figured we were always the ones in the shadows trying to mess with you... being bitter about an alliance , while you've bin in the leadership of the alliance prety much makes you the ideal target if you want to blame someone. Especially if it might as well be your own fault ... but well that wouldn't come to their minds ... Its just hiding information from your own pilots , creating an illusion and well , prety much just propaganda. The word generally used for stuff like that is 'pathetic'. they stole my sig :'(
Yal XianKun Caldari Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.03.27 14:46:00 - [182] I'm not a regular to CAOD but obviously this thread is linked from ED. It seems to have a few nuggets of wisdom and genuinely clever wit amongst a lot of posts that just seem to be intricate ways of saying "yo mama". Originally by: Shardrael also lol at how some things never change, like the last time we left getting blamed for your vent being hacked even though it turns out that was an atlas and THE INTERNET. job. Another good reason I suppose to host your voice comms in the UK, where such behavior would be covered under the Computer Misuse Act (1990), as the law does not state on the purpose or intent of the unauthorized access, but the act of access itself. So for the TLDR crowds that means hacking UK Vent servers = making internet spaceships serious business. Though with 4,000 members I'm sure you have a British lawyer on the team that has a loophole. Anyhow. Two things come to mind about all of this. Everyone seems to lol at space bushido, but effectively military ops in Eve reflect a similar mindset to RL: As ex-Army, I know that: 1. soldiers love good intel. 2. soldiers despise intelligence officers, whether friendly or not. So yeah, I'm a grunt and happy to despise thieves, because I don't think that the vast majority of any alliance (grunts after pew-pew) think that way. As much as this game allows us to be different people (I'm from RP background myself), I don't think that you are: you steal stuff from other alliances and say "it's just a game", but I suspect if we ever met in the flesh, you would sell me a dodgy car with poor brakes and say "it's just business". I'll be at FanFest this year and I'll shake hands with you Mittani, but I'll have my other hand on my wallet, and making sure you don't leave me with the bar tab. Internet spaceships or not, I find it hard to believe that you repress this deviousness in real life and channel it all in Eve. The other thing that comes to mind is the scene in Blackadder the Fourth about spies (8 mins in): yes, to us, you're the filthy hun weasels fighting their dirty underhand war, and to RA, you're the splendid fellows, brave heroes, risking life and limb for Blighty! Spies are necessary and this was a splendid coup: I'm sure the intel guys and HC in many alliances are reading this with grim admiration, including ours, but yes, of course the grunts are going to think you're a complete bard. I'm sure part of you is QQ about that... but anyhow, well done, good job, but I haven't heard anyone asking for eloquent people to step up and write the surrender notice. War continues, you hurt our efforts, moved on.
Xsenia Aterley Amarr Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.03.27 15:04:00 - [183] luv u Goonies
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.27 17:00:00 - [184] Originally by: Holy Lowlander Originally by: Shardrael also lol at how some things never change, like the last time we left getting blamed for your vent being hacked even though it turns out that was an atlas and THE INTERNET. job. although listening to the recording of that it was pretty funny how you immediately figured we were always the ones in the shadows trying to mess with you... being bitter about an alliance , while you've bin in the leadership of the alliance prety much makes you the ideal target if you want to blame someone. Especially if it might as well be your own fault ... but well that wouldn't come to their minds ... Its just hiding information from your own pilots , creating an illusion and well , prety much just propaganda. The word generally used for stuff like that is 'pathetic'. although its pathetic, whether or not their members allow themselves to be gullible, or go along with things, will depend on what they are there for. I still find it funny that its necessary to lie. At least some alliances are just like "Ok, this is our target, lets kill them" and you don't need an excuse etc.
DaiTengu Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.28 00:01:00 - [185] Originally by: Yal XianKun I'm not a regular to CAOD but obviously this thread is linked from ED. It seems to have a few nuggets of wisdom and genuinely clever wit amongst a lot of posts that just seem to be intricate ways of saying "yo mama". Originally by: Shardraelalso lol at how some things never change, like the last time we left getting blamed for your vent being hacked even though it turns out that was an atlas and THE INTERNET. job. Another good reason I suppose to host your voice comms in the UK, where such behavior would be covered under the Computer Misuse Act (1990), as the law does not state on the purpose or intent of the unauthorized access, but the act of access itself. So for the TLDR crowds that means hacking UK Vent servers = making internet spaceships serious business. Though with 4,000 members I'm sure you have a British lawyer on the team that has a loophole. Anyhow. Two things come to mind about all of this. Everyone seems to lol at space bushido, but effectively military ops in Eve reflect a similar mindset to RL: As ex-Army, I know that: 1. soldiers love good intel. 2. soldiers despise intelligence officers, whether friendly or not. So yeah, I'm a grunt and happy to despise thieves, because I don't think that the vast majority of any alliance (grunts after pew-pew) think that way. As much as this game allows us to be different people (I'm from RP background myself), I don't think that you are: you steal stuff from other alliances and say "it's just a game", but I suspect if we ever met in the flesh, you would sell me a dodgy car with poor brakes and say "it's just business". I'll be at FanFest this year and I'll shake hands with you Mittani, but I'll have my other hand on my wallet, and making sure you don't leave me with the bar tab. Internet spaceships or not, I find it hard to believe that you repress this deviousness in real life and channel it all in Eve. The other thing that comes to mind is the scene in Blackadder the Fourth about spies (8 mins in): yes, to us, you're the filthy hun weasels fighting their dirty underhand war, and to RA, you're the splendid fellows, brave heroes, risking life and limb for Blighty! Spies are necessary and this was a splendid coup: I'm sure the intel guys and HC in many alliances are reading this with grim admiration, including ours, but yes, of course the grunts are going to think you're a complete bard. I'm sure part of you is QQ about that... but anyhow, well done, good job, but I haven't heard anyone asking for eloquent people to step up and write the surrender notice. War continues, you hurt our efforts, moved on. Look at how dumb you are. Also, Mittens will never go to fanfest.
Cooolllll Caldari The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple	Posted - 2009.03.28 00:24:00 - [186] i'll take a phoenix.
Gobblock Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:08:00 - [187] just for the record irc has bubbles on all their bubbles and are scrambling and cargo scanning everyone who undocks this is probably a nice place to roam right around now
Harry Craig2 Gallente Abrakadabra. Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:11:00 - [188] Originally by: Gobblock just for the record irc has bubbles on all their bubbles and are scrambling and cargo scanning everyone who undocks this is probably a nice place to roam right around now Bubbles on bubbles? Is it a new goon strategy?
Deldrac Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:16:00 - [189] Don't want those darn bubbles warping out on you.
Gobblock Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:18:00 - [190] bubbles on their station undocks even ^_-
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:20:00 - [191] im considering roaming solo through the area, but chances are they would probably blob me with falcons.
GenrlBaconbits Caldari Southern Cross Empire	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:27:00 - [192] Originally by: Harry Craig2 Originally by: Gobblock just for the record irc has bubbles on all their bubbles and are scrambling and cargo scanning everyone who undocks this is probably a nice place to roam right around now Bubbles on bubbles? Is it a new goon strategy? seems like a waste of a bubble... if I were doing it i would have large bubbles inbetween every object in the space and bubbles surrounding all gates and stations making a bubble bubble... but then again that is what I would do... but i would like to be a goon if they are doing that... hmm i now consider goonswarm an OK alliance... WTF is wrong with me...
Jayline Axler Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.28 01:56:00 - [193] Originally by: DaiTengu Also, Mittens will never go to fanfest. yeah someone will have to push him looooool Made you look.
Holy Lowlander Amarr Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.03.28 07:08:00 - [194] well it could in theory be possible to just fill the entire system with bubbles. altough I think covering a moon in tinfoil would be more usefull tough : ). they stole my sig :'(
Simply Sky Gallente THE INTERNET. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.29 16:43:00 - [195] Just to confirm - the value of the heist is approximately 250B.
gobbloc Gallente THE INTERNET. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.29 16:45:00 - [196] it seems irc has finally managed to gather enough fuel to get to zz5
Harry Craig2 Gallente Abrakadabra. Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.29 17:10:00 - [197] Originally by: gobbloc it seems irc has finally managed to gather enough fuel to get to zz5 RA trying to grab some drone space?
Simply Sky Gallente THE INTERNET. GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.29 17:48:00 - [198] I may return some or all of the assets as IRC's naked aggression dies down. I have already returned a number of cap parts to various individuals, as a token of good faith. Corps other than AWE that may have lost assets are free to contact me via evemail and discuss their circumstances. No returns will happen if I believe that the assets will be used in any way to fight either our RA or NC brosefs, in any system that is not IRC sov. space.
Evil Thug Minmatar Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.29 18:02:00 - [199] Your main problem is lacking of balls. To learn how to fight - you must fight. Stop whining.
Brolo Amarr VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.03.29 18:26:00 - [200] Originally by: Simply Sky No returns will happen if I believe that the assets will be used in any way to fight either our RA or NC brosefs, in any system that is not IRC sov. space. Seems like you've forgotten that loyalty thing already. Include ED space and you may get a better outcome. After all, this all started because of a bit of blue on blue from the brosefs, not necessarily RA, but their tenants. Brolo wanders off singing about a rose..
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team	Posted - 2009.03.29 21:30:00 - [201] Originally by: Brolo Originally by: Simply Sky No returns will happen if I believe that the assets will be used in any way to fight either our RA or NC brosefs, in any system that is not IRC sov. space. Seems like you've forgotten that loyalty thing already. Include ED space and you may get a better outcome. After all, this all started because of a bit of blue on blue from the brosefs, not necessarily RA, but their tenants. Brolo wanders off singing about a rose.. Where was that loyalty when dibrle lost ed the ls-jep station without even so much as a contesting word. -------------------- Ur Sig sucks, GTFO. Navigator
Harry Craig2 Gallente Abrakadabra. Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.29 21:54:00 - [202] Originally by: Shardrael Originally by: Brolo Originally by: Simply Sky No returns will happen if I believe that the assets will be used in any way to fight either our RA or NC brosefs, in any system that is not IRC sov. space. Seems like you've forgotten that loyalty thing already. Include ED space and you may get a better outcome. After all, this all started because of a bit of blue on blue from the brosefs, not necessarily RA, but their tenants. Brolo wanders off singing about a rose.. Where was that loyalty when dibrle lost ed the ls-jep station without even so much as a contesting word. Gone, Just like IRC's dreads.
Garax Obama Gallente Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2009.03.29 22:01:00 - [203] Originally by: DaiTengu Originally by: Yal XianKun I'm not a regular to CAOD but obviously this thread is linked from ED. It seems to have a few nuggets of wisdom and genuinely clever wit amongst a lot of posts that just seem to be intricate ways of saying "yo mama". Originally by: Shardraelalso lol at how some things never change, like the last time we left getting blamed for your vent being hacked even though it turns out that was an atlas and THE INTERNET. job. Another good reason I suppose to host your voice comms in the UK, where such behavior would be covered under the Computer Misuse Act (1990), as the law does not state on the purpose or intent of the unauthorized access, but the act of access itself. So for the TLDR crowds that means hacking UK Vent servers = making internet spaceships serious business. Though with 4,000 members I'm sure you have a British lawyer on the team that has a loophole. Anyhow. Two things come to mind about all of this. Everyone seems to lol at space bushido, but effectively military ops in Eve reflect a similar mindset to RL: As ex-Army, I know that: 1. soldiers love good intel. 2. soldiers despise intelligence officers, whether friendly or not. So yeah, I'm a grunt and happy to despise thieves, because I don't think that the vast majority of any alliance (grunts after pew-pew) think that way. As much as this game allows us to be different people (I'm from RP background myself), I don't think that you are: you steal stuff from other alliances and say "it's just a game", but I suspect if we ever met in the flesh, you would sell me a dodgy car with poor brakes and say "it's just business". I'll be at FanFest this year and I'll shake hands with you Mittani, but I'll have my other hand on my wallet, and making sure you don't leave me with the bar tab. Internet spaceships or not, I find it hard to believe that you repress this deviousness in real life and channel it all in Eve. The other thing that comes to mind is the scene in Blackadder the Fourth about spies (8 mins in): yes, to us, you're the filthy hun weasels fighting their dirty underhand war, and to RA, you're the splendid fellows, brave heroes, risking life and limb for Blighty! Spies are necessary and this was a splendid coup: I'm sure the intel guys and HC in many alliances are reading this with grim admiration, including ours, but yes, of course the grunts are going to think you're a complete bard. I'm sure part of you is QQ about that... but anyhow, well done, good job, but I haven't heard anyone asking for eloquent people to step up and write the surrender notice. War continues, you hurt our efforts, moved on. Look at how dumb you are. Also, Mittens will never go to fanfest. hell, Dai, he must be your dad
Jitannya Caldari Poisonous crab fleet Corp Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.03.30 00:47:00 - [204] Originally by: Evil Thug Your main problem is lacking of balls. To learn how to fight - you must fight. Stop whining. like your doing now growing a pair that is fight still lacking tho
Marcus Riegn Minmatar Blue Team	Posted - 2009.03.30 02:12:00 - [205] Originally by: Simply Sky I may return some or all of the assets as IRC's naked aggression dies down. I have already returned a number of cap parts to various individuals, as a token of good faith. Corps other than AWE that may have lost assets are free to contact me via evemail and discuss their circumstances. No returns will happen if I believe that the assets will be used in any way to fight either our RA or NC brosefs, in any system that is not IRC sov. space. Interesting, seems like IRC complied with goons and now Red is taking advantage to go on the offensive in drone space, wasn't the whole point of this for the reds to attack -A-? Hey Mittens! I think you got played bro!
w00tle Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.30 06:58:00 - [206] "I lack a fundamental understanding of the situation. But gosh darn I'm entitled so here is my opinion:"
jtaylor13 Caldari Phoenix Industries Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2009.04.08 19:43:00 - [207] Duh!
Gideon Araht Amarr Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Associates	Posted - 2009.04.13 16:23:00 - [208] Rofl... "It's OK we didn't want them anyway..." can't wait fro them to say that +1 for Gobblack I will take a carrier or dread... preferably Amarr :-)
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.04.13 17:26:00 - [209] jesus the thread died... and on the fifth day, you necro'd him.
RavenL0RD Gallente Rubbish and Garbage Removal Legiunea ROmana	Posted - 2009.04.13 21:36:00 - [210] Originally by: Joker Deville Originally by: Gobblock Edited by: Gobblock on 26/03/2009 02:28:55 It seems intrepid crossing wont be attacking any new areas anytime soon. I seem to have misplaced their things. We all know they will just petition it and get everything back. After all, all goons do is metagaming, cheating and hacking into other people's accounts. Since you admit it so openly, all accounts should be banned, and investigated. Maybe CCP will take action this time... you are a pathetic bunch of L00SERS if you don't know other way of fighting a war.
Fat Ducker Amarr Lucky Hydra Corp	Posted - 2009.04.13 22:26:00 - [211] Originally by: RavenL0RD Since you admit it so openly, all accounts should be banned, and investigated. Maybe CCP will take action this time... you are a pathetic bunch of L00SERS if you don't know other way of fighting a war. Excuse me for stereotyping, but its just so former-soviet-republic of you to demand 'execution' 1st, followed by a 'trial' to see if an actual 'crime' had been committed.
Saba Quiestador Minmatar Titan Industries Technology Team Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2009.04.13 22:45:00 - [212] Originally by: RavenL0RD ... you are a pathetic bunch of L00SERS if you don't know other way of fighting a war. Yes, because in war, it is considered a horrible idea to attack the enemy's logistics capability through well-planned and executed intelligence operations. Oh, wait...
Marcus Riegn Minmatar Blue Team	Posted - 2009.04.14 04:30:00 - [213] Originally by: Fat Ducker Originally by: RavenL0RD Since you admit it so openly, all accounts should be banned, and investigated. Maybe CCP will take action this time... you are a pathetic bunch of L00SERS if you don't know other way of fighting a war. Excuse me for stereotyping, but its just so former-soviet-republic of you to demand 'execution' 1st, followed by a 'trial' to see if an actual 'crime' had been committed. I gotta say this reply was almost worth having this whole pointless discussion revived. Anyone got a report on what's going on, I'd be interested to hear what's going on.
Hameska Caldari PREDATOR THE MOVIE	Posted - 2009.04.14 04:33:00 - [214] Originally by: Fat Ducker Originally by: RavenL0RD Since you admit it so openly, all accounts should be banned, and investigated. Maybe CCP will take action this time... you are a pathetic bunch of L00SERS if you don't know other way of fighting a war. Excuse me for stereotyping, but its just so former-soviet-republic of you to demand 'execution' 1st, followed by a 'trial' to see if an actual 'crime' had been committed. In Soviet Russia, Dread steals you!
Warlord Sunna Gallente Explora Empire The Council.	Posted - 2009.04.14 10:54:00 - [215] o man i actualy feel sorry for the goons how low thy can get first as camasaky pilots for ra witch was about all thy culd with about 5000 newb caracter in a allience but still kissing ra ass and the newes bet it all instade og just doing it the old fasion way and actualy fight the wars thy use spy to try to destroy the allience with out fight like thy did in delve thy culd not take delve so thy dispand bob with spy o well all allience die and i can just hope goons will soon
Eli Porter Amarr Broski Enterprises Avarice.	Posted - 2009.04.14 11:25:00 - [216] While a lot of ISK is involved, this theft has a severe lack in the drama and importance department. I give it a B-
Repmaek Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.14 13:09:00 - [217] Originally by: Saba Quiestador Yes, because in war, it is considered a horrible idea to attack the enemy's logistics capability through well-planned and executed intelligence operations. Oh, wait... Textbook goons.. they excell at all aspects of lowblow tactics, and fail utterly at anything else, but who's surprised? Call it an "attack" all you want.. i certainly understand why goons and allies feel a need to redefine the word "attack". Lets call it all 'pink' or 'purple', shall we? We wouldnt wanna call it theft pure and simple would we? Remember the day and age where these sort of tactics (large scale and small) were considered poor tactics, even if they were legit? Im sure most goons dont (hint?). Goons set the new low bar once again and are proud of it. Its a pleassure to have them in Eve Online isnt it? thumbs up. go goons. Keep them 'attacks' coming. No argument that you are indeed uber at this stuff, the best ever.
Sir Molley Amarr Band of Brothers	Posted - 2009.04.14 13:46:00 - [218] Edited by: Sir Molley on 14/04/2009 13:46:43 Originally by: Repmaek Remember the day and age where these sort of tactics (large scale and small) were considered poor tactics, even if they were legit? Im sure most goons dont (hint?). Remember the day and age where these sort of burns (large scale and small) were considered stinging, even if they were an offense to written language?
Repmaek Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.14 14:03:00 - [219] Originally by: Sir Molley Remember the day and age where these sort of burns (large scale and small) were considered stinging, even if they were an offense to written language? I see the irony in the fact that you, a member of "BoB" actually replied. So you were saying again..? oh..
Sippowitz Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.14 14:20:00 - [220] Originally by: Repmaek Textbook goons.. they excell at all aspects of lowblow tactics, and fail utterly at anything else, but who's surprised? Call it an "attack" all you want.. i certainly understand why goons and allies feel a need to redefine the word "attack"... Remember the day and age where these sort of tactics (large scale and small) were considered poor tactics, even if they were legit? Complains about cheap tactics Parks on a market hub undock Is a privateer
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core	Posted - 2009.04.14 14:29:00 - [221] 1 day someone will repay the favour. www.garia.net
Venomire Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.14 14:47:00 - [222] Chances are you're right, it'll happen to us. But if people are smart they won't. Drama only gets us logging in and posting more.
Psilocin Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.14 15:28:00 - [223] Originally by: Warlord Sunna o man i actualy feel sorry for the goons how low thy can get first as camasaky pilots for ra witch was about all thy culd with about 5000 newb caracter in a allience but still kissing ra ass and the newes bet it all instade og just doing it the old fasion way and actualy fight the wars thy use spy to try to destroy the allience with out fight like thy did in delve thy culd not take delve so thy dispand bob with spy o well all allience die and i can just hope goons will soon u mad? FOFOFOOOO!
King Blith Gallente The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.14 15:41:00 - [224] http://king-blith.mybrute.com
Murrior Amarr Caldari Deep Space Ventures	Posted - 2009.04.14 16:55:00 - [225] Quote: random goon comment on privateers Privateers is one of the most relevant alliances in the game. You aren't. Your alliance identity goes like this : "we hate this game, we hate everyone else in this game and the way they play." Hence, totally irrelevant, unnecessary. Regards.
Setsnea Exia Gallente THE ELECTRONIC UNION	Posted - 2009.04.15 04:07:00 - [226] Originally by: Psilocin Originally by: Warlord Sunna o man i actualy feel sorry for the goons how low thy can get first as camasaky pilots for ra witch was about all thy culd with about 5000 newb caracter in a allience but still kissing ra ass and the newes bet it all instade og just doing it the old fasion way and actualy fight the wars thy use spy to try to destroy the allience with out fight like thy did in delve thy culd not take delve so thy dispand bob with spy o well all allience die and i can just hope goons will soon u mad? can you actually understand wtf he was trying to say? You can read "stupid writing" way better then me.
Shardrael Caldari Titan Industries Technology Team Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2009.04.15 04:28:00 - [227] Originally by: Murrior Quote: random goon comment on privateers Privateers is one of the most relevant alliances in the game. You aren't. Your alliance identity goes like this : "we hate this game, we hate everyone else in this game and the way they play." Hence, totally irrelevant, unnecessary. Regards. confirming privateers shape the course of the games history and are the most relevant alliance that has done nothing of consequence ever. Signature locked. Please submit a petition to discuss the matter further. Navigator
Graalum Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.15 05:44:00 - [228] so do people still believe that goons robbed irc? if so, this is pretty good lulz
Jitannya Caldari Poisonous crab fleet Corp Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.04.15 06:39:00 - [229] Edited by: Jitannya on 15/04/2009 06:44:31 thought it was a saba alt who is titts which btw is now in goon pet alliance cause well you know !!! this topic is full of saggyness battle report : killed of 68 drone queens today and several other high end spanws GO BEE KEEPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NickSuccorso Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.15 07:20:00 - [230] Originally by: Murrior Quote: random goon comment on privateers Privateers is one of the most relevant alliances in the game. You aren't. Your alliance identity goes like this : "we hate this game, we hate everyone else in this game and the way they play." Hence, totally irrelevant, unnecessary. Regards. What? No we're not.
w00tle Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.15 09:25:00 - [231] Originally by: Graalum so do people still believe that goons robbed irc? if so, this is pretty good lulz
Murrior Amarr Caldari Deep Space Ventures	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:04:00 - [232] Originally by: NickSuccorso Originally by: Murrior Quote: random goon comment on privateers Privateers is one of the most relevant alliances in the game. You aren't. Your alliance identity goes like this : "we hate this game, we hate everyone else in this game and the way they play." Hence, totally irrelevant, unnecessary. Regards. What? No we're not. Yes you are
VoiceInTheDesert Gallente Zebra Corp Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2009.04.15 18:20:00 - [233] Originally by: Repmaek Textbook goons.. they excell at all aspects of lowblow tactics, and fail utterly at anything else, but who's surprised? Call it an "attack" all you want.. i certainly understand why goons and allies feel a need to redefine the word "attack". Lets call it all 'pink' or 'purple', shall we? We wouldnt wanna call it theft pure and simple would we? Remember the day and age where these sort of tactics (large scale and small) were considered poor tactics, even if they were legit? Im sure most goons dont (hint?). Goons set the new low bar once again and are proud of it. Its a pleassure to have them in Eve Online isnt it? thumbs up. go goons. Keep them 'attacks' coming. No argument that you are indeed uber at this stuff, the best ever. The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can't do. Savvy?

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