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Achar Losa Caldari logMASter	Posted - 2009.03.29 08:49:00 - [1] I was thinking today about the big fleet battles in eve. Now that the two biggest powerblocks called all their allies to the fight, today will be a pretty big lagfest around 49- My question is partly to the devs, is there a chance that we will witness the biggest battle, with the most participants today in the history of mmorpgs? In the history of multiplayer games? Generally are there any numbers, facts about that? That would be a pretty big advertising force. Did CCP prepare for it in any way? Psychologically, looking at how this many people react, how they are led, being FCed, would be very interesting too. Generally EVE has a potential for LOTS of experiments about many people working together. Technically? Were there any examples of so many participants in one battle before? If the battle will not be as big as its expected now, then my question is generally about the big eve fights. Do you CCP guys keep any logs about these? I thought about using these awesome, really one of a kind aspects of eve for my dissertation, i wonder why noone (or at least i didnt find it) thought about that yet. Anyway, im recommending all carebears or those who cannot be there, to keep an eye on this because you might hear about this day again. Also this is NOT CAOD PLEASE! Im expectiing constructive posts, no flaming and i dont care about your alliance tag in this topic so act accordingly!
Jamyl TashMurkon Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.29 09:09:00 - [2] They should have a RamSan ready to be installed for 49- on its own And yea lagg is gonna be terrible, i expect....hmmm....1516 ppl in local tops
Sebea Bottomfeeders Science and Research	Posted - 2009.03.29 09:29:00 - [3] Originally by: Jamyl TashMurkon They should have a RamSan ready to be installed for 49- on its own And yea lagg is gonna be terrible, i expect....hmmm....1516 ppl in local tops They broke that number last week. System was approaching 1900 people.
Achar Losa Caldari logMASter	Posted - 2009.03.29 09:34:00 - [4] Yep i heard expectations of 2k too. Thats why im asking if anyone knows anything bigger ever happened.
Xenoxide Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.29 09:58:00 - [5] Where and when is it? 49-U? What time? I might come along with a bowl of popcorn and spectate, perhaps join in on the pew-pew even.
Asuka Smith Gallente StarHunt	Posted - 2009.03.29 10:42:00 - [6] It is the 49- in Querious.
Euriti Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.29 11:47:00 - [7] Originally by: Asuka Smith It is the 49- in Querious. Yes, there's a ton of poses comming out on both sides tonight and the fate of those towers will be the fate of the system.
Jamyl TashMurkon Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.29 12:43:00 - [8] Nuke em from orbit !
Kyo Makamoto Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2009.03.29 12:52:00 - [9] "our logs show nothing.."
HermanGelmet	Posted - 2009.03.29 14:34:00 - [10] I thought this was going to be a poem.
Sabrage	Posted - 2009.03.29 14:41:00 - [11] Our smacktalk shall block out the sun.
Nerogk Shorn Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.03.29 14:50:00 - [12] There could be a lot of theory crraft about how to manage fleets like that effectively. I would certainly enjoy thinking about it. I wonder if fleets that big will really be able to engage without debilitating lag, even with CCP notified about the potential fleet engagement. I also wonder if the fleets are just going to throw their blobs at eachother and have a big long slugfest lacking real creativity. The Bulbasaur Wizard D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
Cipher7	Posted - 2009.03.29 15:05:00 - [13] theres pvp in eve? I thought fleets just showed up and tried to lag each other out. The side with the better computers win. ---
rasheedwallace Minmatar Celestial Ascension Tenth Legion	Posted - 2009.03.29 15:08:00 - [14] Edited by: rasheedwallace on 29/03/2009 15:08:17 Originally by: Cipher7 theres pvp in eve? I thought fleets just showed up and tried to lag each other out. The side with the better computers win. thats not how fleet battles work? oh no i have been doing it wrong all these years :(
Mithfindel Gallente Khanid Unionist Movement	Posted - 2009.03.29 15:27:00 - [15] Edited by: Mithfindel on 29/03/2009 15:27:33 Alledgedly, the abortion of the second Lotka Volterra titan in Omist was a bigger fight. (Admitted, they faced a node death or a few. Edit: Also I'm not sure if they all even made it to the system.) Also, when the node running the game lags, better computers won't help, since it's the server that lags.
Tenely	Posted - 2009.03.29 15:39:00 - [16] 1400ish in local already and goons and friends have not even shown up yet :P
Cipher7	Posted - 2009.03.29 15:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Tenely 1400ish in local already and goons and friends have not even shown up yet :P Have to wait till school lets out at 3. kidding kidding Theres no school on sunday. ---
Achar Losa Caldari logMASter	Posted - 2009.03.29 17:11:00 - [18] Well i have to say its amazing. We are at 1700 local and there's hardly any lag. Congrats to CCP. Maybe a few words here, answer to my questions and some comments on the battle from CCP side would be appreciated :) Thy
Achar Losa Caldari logMASter	Posted - 2009.03.29 18:42:00 - [19] i'm sitting here (in 49- ) since almost 12 hours. Was amongst the first 5 who logged into system after downtime and didnt log out since then. No desync, even at top local count we had manageable module lag with lots of people on grid and brackets on. Only time i noticed big lag spikes was when people were bridging in. Local started to drop now slowly, really amazing how CCP managed to reinforce the system node. If only every system and battle would be like this. So can we know if you did any special reinforcements?
Razors Kiss	Posted - 2009.03.29 19:08:00 - [20] BoB & GBC have no caps. None. 0. Nada. lol This is just the dread section too. Not the carrier wings.
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.29 19:12:00 - [21] Edited by: Batolemaeus on 29/03/2009 19:13:16 Originally by: Cipher7 The side with the better computers win. Another one who has no clue about what "lag" is ITT. Btw., 49- will not be playable IF, and that is IF, any reds/blues actually manage to get in. Having been in the last big fight there, it's nigh impossible to actually get into a crowded system when a fight is happening. ---------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
Noix Arikani	Posted - 2009.03.29 19:48:00 - [22] Originally by: Razors Kiss BoB & GBC have no caps. None. 0. Nada. lol This is just the dread section too. Not the carrier wings. Wheres the fracking formations of uber awsomeness cracks whip get in a line boys, we want to look good when we die
Achar Losa Caldari logMASter	Posted - 2009.03.29 19:52:00 - [23] Ok i give up. I was expecting a mature conversation (or at least 1-2 answers) with ccp, and i was trying to be helpful for their "efforts" in 49-. What i get in return is get f*ing trolled in the middle of general forums by a dev in another hastily created thread. I just dont even know what the hell i was thinking. One dev's manners is the whole CCP manners. Shame. This was the last time i tried to be constructive and helpful towards CCP, great job showing the community AGAIN where you come from...
Noix Arikani	Posted - 2009.03.29 19:59:00 - [24] Originally by: Achar Losa Ok i give up. I was expecting a mature conversation (or at least 1-2 answers) with ccp, and i was trying to be helpful for their "efforts" in 49-. What i get in return is get f*ing trolled in the middle of general forums by a dev in another hastily created thread. I just dont even know what the hell i was thinking. One dev's manners is the whole CCP manners. Shame. This was the last time i tried to be constructive and helpful towards CCP, great job showing the community AGAIN where you come from... your really whining over a joke ?
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.29 20:01:00 - [25] Originally by: Achar Losa Ok i give up. I was expecting a mature conversation (or at least 1-2 answers) with ccp, and i was trying to be helpful for their "efforts" in 49-. What i get in return is get f*ing trolled in the middle of general forums by a dev in another hastily created thread. I just dont even know what the hell i was thinking. One dev's manners is the whole CCP manners. Shame. This was the last time i tried to be constructive and helpful towards CCP, great job showing the community AGAIN where you come from... You're a fine one to talk about manners. If you spoke to most people in real life as you spoke to CCP Atropos, you'd get something a lot more definite than a "np". Something your parents should have given you a long time ago, in fact.
Razors Kiss	Posted - 2009.03.29 20:01:00 - [26] Originally by: Achar Losa Ok i give up. I was expecting a mature conversation (or at least 1-2 answers) with ccp, and i was trying to be helpful for their "efforts" in 49-. What i get in return is get fing trolled in the middle of general forums by a dev in another hastily created thread. I just dont even know what the hell i was thinking. One dev's manners is the whole CCP manners. Shame. This was the last time i tried to be constructive and helpful towards CCP, great job showing the community AGAIN where you come from... Ermm... Maybe you should have posted in the Game Development Forum and not the general chat. And tried posting with a serious topic note instead of a 'UBER PWN WTF BATTLES EPIC BATTLES COME INSIDE AND POST AND ***, I WANT A MEGA THREAD' topic title. Obligatory can I haz ur stuff?
Achar Losa Caldari logMASter	Posted - 2009.03.29 20:11:00 - [27] This was directed to the general chat. How exactly was my topic title anything close to this "UBER PWN WTF BATTLES EPIC BATTLES COME INSIDE AND POST AND ****, I WANT A MEGA THREAD" ??? Oh you want my stuff now i get it... So was it a joke now or not? "You're a fine one to talk about manners. If you spoke to most people in real life as you spoke to CCP Atropos, you'd get something a lot more definite than a "np". Something your parents should have given you a long time ago, in fact." God i thought you knew my parents or me. Hm. The next time you see a politician or a police officer or any official person sink to his "opponent's" level tell me. Oh wait, its only cool in eve to be evil and piwaty and to kick around all norms. Yes i think that few words is something an official ccp person MUST bear without smacking back. I wasnt cursing i wasnt personal i might be just a 6 year old stupid boy, but he's a CCP dev writing in the forums!
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.29 20:17:00 - [28] Listen, if think you're entitled to speak to people the way you did and receive anything better than a "np", why are you speaking this way when replying to people? You're being a very great deal ruder than Atropos was. Live up to your own standards if you want anyone else to adhere to them. Nothing says that a dev has to kiss your a$$ when you act like one. Face it: you acted like a jerk, you were treated like a jerk, and now you're getting all angry and emo because you've been called on your bad behavior. Which is exactly how sulky teenagers behave, and exactly why no-one likes dealing with them. Grow up or shut up; either would be fine.
Achar Losa Caldari logMASter	Posted - 2009.03.29 20:22:00 - [29] Originally by: Malcanis Listen, if think you're entitled to speak to people the way you did and receive anything better than a "np", why are you speaking this way when replying to people? You're being a very great deal ruder than Atropos was. Live up to your own standards if you want anyone else to adhere to them. Nothing says that a dev has to kiss your a$$ when you act like one. Face it: you acted like a jerk, you were treated like a jerk, and now you're getting all angry and emo because you've been called on your bad behavior. Which is exactly how sulky teenagers behave, and exactly why no-one likes dealing with them. Grow up or shut up; either would be fine. You really dont get the difference between the "5 year old boy" or sulky teenager if you say and the "official CCP dev writing in forums" do you? I still think a dev should take more jerkness than me thanking him something, without trolling back. This might be acceptable from me as a sulky teenager but not from an official ccp dev mkay? I cant say this clearer. Ofc in these forums its a cool thing but thats not my problem. If you think this is how it works IRL then im not the one who should grow up mate.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.29 20:31:00 - [30] Originally by: Achar Losa Originally by: Malcanis Listen, if think you're entitled to speak to people the way you did and receive anything better than a "np", why are you speaking this way when replying to people? You're being a very great deal ruder than Atropos was. Live up to your own standards if you want anyone else to adhere to them. Nothing says that a dev has to kiss your a$$ when you act like one. Face it: you acted like a jerk, you were treated like a jerk, and now you're getting all angry and emo because you've been called on your bad behavior. Which is exactly how sulky teenagers behave, and exactly why no-one likes dealing with them. Grow up or shut up; either would be fine. You really dont get the difference between the "5 year old boy" or sulky teenager if you say and the "official CCP dev writing in forums" do you? I still think a dev should take more jerkness than me thanking him something, without trolling back. This might be acceptable from me as a sulky teenager but not from an official ccp dev mkay? I cant say this clearer. Ofc in these forums its a cool thing but thats not my problem. If you think this is how it works IRL then im not the one who should grow up mate. So in essence what you're saying is that you're aware that you spoke rudely, but that the dev should just let get away with it because your information is so awesomely vital or something? Whereas their opinion seems to be that you're not important enough to speak like that to them. Wow. Just wow. Are you an only child, perchance, "mate"?

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