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Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.08.23 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Sybylle on 23/08/2004 11:53:24 Well...Who said it would be out on the 1st of september ?
It could also be later
And anyway...There is no point in the Boycott action. We all awaited that. Up to you to boycott, but if I can log, sure I'll !

Edit : and Oreste...Don't use alts to post Bull****$  We know you wanna keep all these shinny deployable for you! you 
  
Please don't bypass the profanity filter - Wrangler (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |

Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.08.23 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Sybylle on 23/08/2004 11:53:24 Well...Who said it would be out on the 1st of september ?
It could also be later
And anyway...There is no point in the Boycott action. We all awaited that. Up to you to boycott, but if I can log, sure I'll !

Edit : and Oreste...Don't use alts to post Bull****$  We know you wanna keep all these shinny deployable for you! you 
  
Please don't bypass the profanity filter - Wrangler (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |

M0RIARTY
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: M0RIARTY on 23/08/2004 12:44:25

You know it's just a game....... right?
If you don't like it that much cancel your sub and play another game 
PS Nice sig Nilit
Noo sig comming SOONÖ =================================================== What are we going to do about all this ignorance and apathy?.... I don't know and I don't care! |

M0RIARTY
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Posted - 2004.08.23 12:42:00 -
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Edited by: M0RIARTY on 23/08/2004 12:44:25

You know it's just a game....... right?
If you don't like it that much cancel your sub and play another game 
PS Nice sig Nilit
Noo sig comming SOONÖ =================================================== What are we going to do about all this ignorance and apathy?.... I don't know and I don't care! |

Neminem
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Posted - 2004.08.23 13:19:00 -
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Nilit.. too right :)
And to the rest of you.. you all missed the point completely. This was an attempt to see if the community really does have a voice, but it's clearly obvious that any community driven action would never succeed.
In other words your voice will never be heard cos you're too weak to have one and speak up, to scared of offending the creators.
It's not about liking or disliking the game, it's purely about input consideration....
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Neminem
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Posted - 2004.08.23 13:19:00 -
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Nilit.. too right :)
And to the rest of you.. you all missed the point completely. This was an attempt to see if the community really does have a voice, but it's clearly obvious that any community driven action would never succeed.
In other words your voice will never be heard cos you're too weak to have one and speak up, to scared of offending the creators.
It's not about liking or disliking the game, it's purely about input consideration....
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.08.23 14:34:00 -
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How can you NOW say you gonna boycott the game that precise day?
Don't you think many progress were done since the beginning?
I think the game is improving. Yes a lot of things are missing. Yes they are some issues.
Of course it was released too soon. But hey, CCP isn't Blizzard or EA games. This is their first game and I think they going well as a first try.
If you want to boycott, well you gonna need a reason that affects hardly a lot of players. You are trying to make a generic boycott, as sure many things don't go as we want in the game. Do you think it's easy to make everybody happy? Nobody did it before. Why you expect CCP to do so?
Game as complicated...Has Eve ever been simple&easy ('cept beta, Amrmageddon day ^^) ? If you want something easy go for a shoot'hem up.
Of course I liked to get ark and in empire. I liked Omber in 1.0 sys too. But was it a good choice? No, because it would have make player rich too easier, and then waste their enjoyement with new stuff.
I'd like to do AFK mining sometimes. Was it fair with other doing missions? No, so it was changed, as hidden belt were populated with NPCs.
Eve doesn't look like what it was before. If you don't like it, it's up to you to boycott. IMHO, we are on the good way for an excellent game.
I don't know for you, but I read the EULA. CS is based on that. Playing Eve means you accept the EULA, i.e. you also accept CS capabilities and limitation. How many different computers, connection types, OS and countries are playing Eve? A lot. Do you think it's easy to trace all errors? Are you able to do it precisely at least on one?
Of course you pay for playing. But who paid for the game devellopement's in first place? Do you prefer the dev's reading the forums all the day and posting answers to all ideaas, OR you prefer them working on the game to fix everything.
Who said you dev's do not take into account player inputs? It's not an idea problem. You have to take into account the capabilities of the network, of the server cluster and also of the client. Any new think implemented is CPU/Memory/network consuming. You have to choose how to do things, to think how they can be dealed elsewhere or if something can be done otherwise to get more ressources elsewhere.
Before calling for a boycott regarding everything you don't like, think that the game has evolved since release (in content and player base) without being more client side consuming.
For me it has also less lags than before...
Even if all what you expected is ingame, you should notice the progress before saying "let's show them who's the boss".
Use your brain...Even if it's time consuming  (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |

Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.08.23 14:34:00 -
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How can you NOW say you gonna boycott the game that precise day?
Don't you think many progress were done since the beginning?
I think the game is improving. Yes a lot of things are missing. Yes they are some issues.
Of course it was released too soon. But hey, CCP isn't Blizzard or EA games. This is their first game and I think they going well as a first try.
If you want to boycott, well you gonna need a reason that affects hardly a lot of players. You are trying to make a generic boycott, as sure many things don't go as we want in the game. Do you think it's easy to make everybody happy? Nobody did it before. Why you expect CCP to do so?
Game as complicated...Has Eve ever been simple&easy ('cept beta, Amrmageddon day ^^) ? If you want something easy go for a shoot'hem up.
Of course I liked to get ark and in empire. I liked Omber in 1.0 sys too. But was it a good choice? No, because it would have make player rich too easier, and then waste their enjoyement with new stuff.
I'd like to do AFK mining sometimes. Was it fair with other doing missions? No, so it was changed, as hidden belt were populated with NPCs.
Eve doesn't look like what it was before. If you don't like it, it's up to you to boycott. IMHO, we are on the good way for an excellent game.
I don't know for you, but I read the EULA. CS is based on that. Playing Eve means you accept the EULA, i.e. you also accept CS capabilities and limitation. How many different computers, connection types, OS and countries are playing Eve? A lot. Do you think it's easy to trace all errors? Are you able to do it precisely at least on one?
Of course you pay for playing. But who paid for the game devellopement's in first place? Do you prefer the dev's reading the forums all the day and posting answers to all ideaas, OR you prefer them working on the game to fix everything.
Who said you dev's do not take into account player inputs? It's not an idea problem. You have to take into account the capabilities of the network, of the server cluster and also of the client. Any new think implemented is CPU/Memory/network consuming. You have to choose how to do things, to think how they can be dealed elsewhere or if something can be done otherwise to get more ressources elsewhere.
Before calling for a boycott regarding everything you don't like, think that the game has evolved since release (in content and player base) without being more client side consuming.
For me it has also less lags than before...
Even if all what you expected is ingame, you should notice the progress before saying "let's show them who's the boss".
Use your brain...Even if it's time consuming  (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |

Varia
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Posted - 2004.08.23 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Varia on 23/08/2004 15:50:57 The most you can ever do is to suggest ideas to CCP, the players can/must not be able to dictate terms in my opinion.
ItĘs near impossible for a player to suggest an idea without giving him/herself a tactical advantage in some way.
If CCP implements a change itĘs for there reason not ours.
You only have to look at once great games like UO to see what happens when players dictate their wishes.
I for one will log on all my accounts on the 1st of September.
P.s. Over 10k players logged on again over the weekend. 'Way To go Commanders'
Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |

Varia
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Posted - 2004.08.23 15:46:00 -
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Edited by: Varia on 23/08/2004 15:50:57 The most you can ever do is to suggest ideas to CCP, the players can/must not be able to dictate terms in my opinion.
ItĘs near impossible for a player to suggest an idea without giving him/herself a tactical advantage in some way.
If CCP implements a change itĘs for there reason not ours.
You only have to look at once great games like UO to see what happens when players dictate their wishes.
I for one will log on all my accounts on the 1st of September.
P.s. Over 10k players logged on again over the weekend. 'Way To go Commanders'
Women that strive to equal men lack ambition. |

X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.08.23 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Neminem It is with great regret that I must post this topic, and I do so on an alt char so as not to pull you corp into the frey.
A real valid point might have been made if you posted with your real char an not your alt.
spineless.
now if you could organize everyone to close their account for one month that might voice something to CCP
CCP makes the game.........if you don't like it ....... don't play it.
let me guess, your sitting with your main on right now but your AFK watching the tele with the remote control in your hand and whining about the channel your watching.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2004.08.23 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Neminem It is with great regret that I must post this topic, and I do so on an alt char so as not to pull you corp into the frey.
A real valid point might have been made if you posted with your real char an not your alt.
spineless.
now if you could organize everyone to close their account for one month that might voice something to CCP
CCP makes the game.........if you don't like it ....... don't play it.
let me guess, your sitting with your main on right now but your AFK watching the tele with the remote control in your hand and whining about the channel your watching.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.08.23 17:10:00 -
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10000+ logged on last sunday something right is happening. Sorry you dont feel like 10000+ do. --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.08.23 17:10:00 -
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10000+ logged on last sunday something right is happening. Sorry you dont feel like 10000+ do. --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

alar1c
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Posted - 2004.08.23 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yawle If you replied in this post that you are not experiencing issues in the game, then you must not be playing much... Everytime we turn around they are changing things... And people get tired of the canned responses that have nothing to do with the petitions... Everyone who plays this game is a critic and is qualified, without the players you have no game, remember that...
Oh please!!! As one who spend s WAY too much time on this game, I don't see teh problem.
If the devs just left everything the same, I'd be bored silly. Oh you can't chain rats like you use to TO BAD! the number of improvments far out way the mistakes, and frankly, if it's that bad of a mistake, they will correct it!!
keep it up! and good work to the Dev's, and CCP!
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alar1c
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Posted - 2004.08.23 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yawle If you replied in this post that you are not experiencing issues in the game, then you must not be playing much... Everytime we turn around they are changing things... And people get tired of the canned responses that have nothing to do with the petitions... Everyone who plays this game is a critic and is qualified, without the players you have no game, remember that...
Oh please!!! As one who spend s WAY too much time on this game, I don't see teh problem.
If the devs just left everything the same, I'd be bored silly. Oh you can't chain rats like you use to TO BAD! the number of improvments far out way the mistakes, and frankly, if it's that bad of a mistake, they will correct it!!
keep it up! and good work to the Dev's, and CCP!
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2004.08.23 19:32:00 -
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Yes I see the wisdom in your activities so for solidarity sake I will join the boycott, of course I don't wish to demoralize all of ISD/CCP either so I will only participate during down time or when I am asleep, but even asleep I will be dreaming of the great we've had enough nerfing boycott!!!!
Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug!
Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2004.08.23 19:32:00 -
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Yes I see the wisdom in your activities so for solidarity sake I will join the boycott, of course I don't wish to demoralize all of ISD/CCP either so I will only participate during down time or when I am asleep, but even asleep I will be dreaming of the great we've had enough nerfing boycott!!!!
Stop griping about server instability and go buy an EVE mug!
Additionally with the purchase of each mug you will receive two(2) invisible Elves.
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Wotok
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Posted - 2004.08.23 20:14:00 -
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boycott? I'm very pleased with Eve and CCP.
-- Wotok has no brain! |

Wotok
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Posted - 2004.08.23 20:14:00 -
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boycott? I'm very pleased with Eve and CCP.
-- Wotok has no brain! |

Balthial Ashaere
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Posted - 2004.08.23 22:07:00 -
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Dude, what the hell are you talking about???
We hav ethe hand of god in this game when compared to a product produced by Electronic Arts.
You want to see ignored playbases? Go load up any EA title and try to get them to listen to you.
CCP are saints compared to EA or any other Dev Team.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convergent Corporation - Infinite Opportunities; One Future!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convergent Mining Division - Refining The Foundation Of The Future!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Balthial Ashaere
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Posted - 2004.08.23 22:07:00 -
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Dude, what the hell are you talking about???
We hav ethe hand of god in this game when compared to a product produced by Electronic Arts.
You want to see ignored playbases? Go load up any EA title and try to get them to listen to you.
CCP are saints compared to EA or any other Dev Team.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convergent Corporation - Infinite Opportunities; One Future!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convergent Mining Division - Refining The Foundation Of The Future!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2004.08.23 22:16:00 -
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CCP have done one or two things i dont like but overall the Eve experience rocks so when i get home from work on Sept 1st i will be logging on
Sorry to rain on your parade but i dont pay 17 euros a months not to play.
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Hmmm I need a Sig |

Mrmuttley
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Posted - 2004.08.23 22:16:00 -
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CCP have done one or two things i dont like but overall the Eve experience rocks so when i get home from work on Sept 1st i will be logging on
Sorry to rain on your parade but i dont pay 17 euros a months not to play.
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Hmmm I need a Sig |

Manira
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Posted - 2004.08.23 22:24:00 -
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hehe i like this topic, it's fresh and i am 0-0 (wide-eyed) that it wasnt closed yet 
I must say that CCP has improved during the last year and has given us much. / as a counter argument(or annex - additional info) to former sentence: everything we were given these past few months has been promised to us from CCP for the last decembre already. SO it's not like they hurt their backs delivering it to us. the SoonÖ joke didnt come out of the clear blue sky....
I play eve mostly every day too many hours to be comfortable with it anymore. I will join the boycott on the septembre 1st :) just to prove to myself that i can live without it no problem and that i can become "un-addicted" at my own will. It's not the reason u looked for mate, but it will do for ur cause perhaps :)
Wish u luck in the future, and my Fortune shine down ur path. (cancel eve subscription first if u want fortune to help u :))
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Manira
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Posted - 2004.08.23 22:24:00 -
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hehe i like this topic, it's fresh and i am 0-0 (wide-eyed) that it wasnt closed yet 
I must say that CCP has improved during the last year and has given us much. / as a counter argument(or annex - additional info) to former sentence: everything we were given these past few months has been promised to us from CCP for the last decembre already. SO it's not like they hurt their backs delivering it to us. the SoonÖ joke didnt come out of the clear blue sky....
I play eve mostly every day too many hours to be comfortable with it anymore. I will join the boycott on the septembre 1st :) just to prove to myself that i can live without it no problem and that i can become "un-addicted" at my own will. It's not the reason u looked for mate, but it will do for ur cause perhaps :)
Wish u luck in the future, and my Fortune shine down ur path. (cancel eve subscription first if u want fortune to help u :))
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Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.08.24 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Balthial Ashaere Dude, what the hell are you talking about???
We hav ethe hand of god in this game when compared to a product produced by Electronic Arts.
You want to see ignored playbases? Go load up any EA title and try to get them to listen to you.
CCP are saints compared to EA or any other Dev Team.
Hey ! It was an exemple ^^ Who like EA? I just took them as big and well established companies, to best seller game they have done. My purpose was to say the CCP is doing very well for a first try, even better than companies that have all the money they wish due to their hight sells.
No company was harmed during this speech !
 (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |

Sybylle
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Posted - 2004.08.24 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Balthial Ashaere Dude, what the hell are you talking about???
We hav ethe hand of god in this game when compared to a product produced by Electronic Arts.
You want to see ignored playbases? Go load up any EA title and try to get them to listen to you.
CCP are saints compared to EA or any other Dev Team.
Hey ! It was an exemple ^^ Who like EA? I just took them as big and well established companies, to best seller game they have done. My purpose was to say the CCP is doing very well for a first try, even better than companies that have all the money they wish due to their hight sells.
No company was harmed during this speech !
 (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period" |

Artean
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Posted - 2004.08.24 08:26:00 -
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A year ago, there might actually have been a chance (although small) to entince some people to participate in a 24h boycott.
Something must have happend with EVE since then, considering the responses to this thread.
Will I participate? Hardly...
I LuB EvE I LuB EvE I Lu... ........ There is a fine line between gate camping and just standing by a gate, looking like an idiot... |

Artean
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Posted - 2004.08.24 08:26:00 -
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A year ago, there might actually have been a chance (although small) to entince some people to participate in a 24h boycott.
Something must have happend with EVE since then, considering the responses to this thread.
Will I participate? Hardly...
I LuB EvE I LuB EvE I Lu... ........ There is a fine line between gate camping and just standing by a gate, looking like an idiot... |
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