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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
545
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:12:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:You heard it here.
Time to reset FCON. FA, leading the way to resetting FCON? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Derrick Munroe
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
59
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:13:00 -
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Zagdul wrote: You heard it here.
Time to reset FCON.
You hadn't already? |
wastelandtraveler
Capital Industries Research And Development Fidelas Constans
3
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:14:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:
From your mouth to mitannis ears!
I would prefer it from his mouth... *licks lips* |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1748
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:14:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Okay, since I missed most of this and it's late (my apologies if I'm incorrect or simply haven't been thorough). 1: Thorn declares war. 2: War Dec is seen by Goons, but they are unaware there has been some sort of glitch with it according to this statement. Quote:The war dec we tried to declare against you never went active due to getting stuck in alliance transition. 3: Thorn shoots Goon logi pilots because of transferred aggression. 4: Goons fire back thinking they are being shot at by war targets. 5: Concord kills Goons because they are not actually at war due to above mentioned glitch. 6: Goons think an exploit is being used and contact CCP. 7: CCP does a quick check, see's the war dec, but doesn't realize there is something deeper (the glitch) going on. 8: CCP blows up at least 1 Thorn pilot to rectify what he at that time thought was an exploit. 9: Thorn says, "what the hell, it was simply aggression transferal... not a war dec exploit of some kind". 10: This leads to a deeper and more time consuming investigation of the war dec glitch. 11: Thorn (seeing their petition is taking longer than the Goons petition did) cries favoritism. 12: General chaos ensues on all sides, with everybody and their brother getting in on the verbal free-for-all. Is that about it, or am I missing important facts? Serious question. Goons are always in the wrong. Your attempt to consider an alternative narrative may leave you open to charges of thoughtcrime.I don't know if CCP will every come out and explain fully what happened - they would best know. Whatever it is though, doubtless people will just scream at them that they should ban all goons, so I don't know if "wait and see" or "discussing petitions is not appropriate for GD" would be the best response.
Thanks for that.
Sounds like there is a problem that needs fixing with the War Dec glitch, and every thing else is a series of (logical) misunderstandings (on the part of Goons, Thorn, and CCP) with that glitch as ultimately the root cause.
Kind of a mess cascade all the way around, but pretty understandable on all parts. It will probably take a while for this band wagon to lose momentum though.
When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:18:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Okay, since I missed most of this and it's late (my apologies if I'm incorrect or simply haven't been thorough). 1: Thorn declares war. 2: War Dec is seen by Goons, but they are unaware there has been some sort of glitch with it according to this statement. Quote:The war dec we tried to declare against you never went active due to getting stuck in alliance transition. 3: Thorn shoots Goon logi pilots because of transferred aggression. 4: Goons fire back thinking they are being shot at by war targets. 5: Concord kills Goons because they are not actually at war due to above mentioned glitch. 6: Goons think an exploit is being used and contact CCP. 7: CCP does a quick check, see's the war dec, but doesn't realize there is something deeper (the glitch) going on. 8: CCP blows up at least 1 Thorn pilot to rectify what he at that time thought was an exploit. 9: Thorn says, "what the hell, it was simply aggression transferal... not a war dec exploit of some kind". 10: This leads to a deeper and more time consuming investigation of the war dec glitch. 11: Thorn (seeing their petition is taking longer than the Goons petition did) cries favoritism. 12: General chaos ensues on all sides, with everybody and their brother getting in on the verbal free-for-all. Is that about it, or am I missing important facts? Serious question.
I shall try and help.
1. As far as I understand it yes.
2. Exactly
3. Yes and bait and Goons FC does not have his overview set up and fail to realize that they are grey? their logis starts repping, then their other logis start repping their logis and chain transfer aggro, their logis pilots also don't know anything about how logis work.
4. they seemed to have acted worse than a 14 day trial fleet, their FC ****** up.
5. mostly they die to thorn it seems.
6. Yep, well they contact a friend who is a GM.
7. maybe, could be.
8. Yes, however goons did not ask for that
9. Pretty much.
10. Seems like it.
11. They seem to have yet to get a response yet goons got response and a solution in 10 minutes.
12. Well, goons did cry a river, and they were supposedly too cool for that behavior
Goons have gone from all neuts, does not care, using frigates and doing whatever to troll and lol at their enemies to-
have all blue, care more about the game than CCP, always using blobs and only fight when outnumbering and having superior fleet, getting trolled easily and having everyone lol at them.
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Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
845
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:18:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:wastelandtraveler wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Derrick Munroe wrote:At least I'm not afraid to post on my main account~ But I am, as are according to this thread a ton of goons as well. I however do not deny that fact, goons and CFC on the other hand talk about not giving a ****, yet they do, they talk about griefing, yet they report others that do, they try to insult me and think that I cry, when they are the ones pooring out tears all over this thread But I appreciate that Robin has a spine! I am sure Mitanni will reward you for your effort. Your logic is sound, and while I am a goon in the SA nature, I do completely agree with you. It's quite the double standard we seem to be holding these days. I'm sad to say we have become the enemies we sought so long to destroy. All of the recent events have lead me to believe that we must go back to the drawing board as a coalition. Like CCP, we must reset ourselves... It's the only logical option at this point. While the rest of my family may be blind to it and only see this as our undoing, I see it as providence. You heard it here. Time to reset FCON.
Meanwhile in FA https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=102253&p=1
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:19:00 -
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Evalin Black wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
Is that about it, or am I missing important facts?
Serious question.
The biggest fact you are missing is that the OP is a fuckhead and this thread is ********
oh noes, I hurt a goons feelings, see this mitanni? your members are about to kill themselves |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
545
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:19:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Goons are always in the wrong. Your attempt to consider an alternative narrative may leave you open to charges of thoughtcrime.
I don't know if CCP will every come out and explain fully what happened - they would best know. Whatever it is though, doubtless people will just scream at them that they should ban all goons, so I don't know if "wait and see" or "discussing petitions is not appropriate for GD" would be the best response. Thanks for that. Sounds like there is a problem that needs fixing with the War Dec glitch, and every thing else is a series of (logical) misunderstandings (on the part of Goons, Thorn, and CCP) with that glitch as ultimately the root cause. Kind of a mess cascade all the way around, but pretty understandable on all parts. It will probably take a while for this band wagon to lose momentum though. Well there were a lot of weird things - everyone's forgotten the GCC/"red blinking overview" bug from TiDi by now, I suppose.
As they say, there's always next time. Look forward to meeting your friendly "shoot to instakill" police force, CONCORD and the local Political "1400mm Artillery summary execution" Commissariat of the CFC. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:22:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Goons are always in the wrong. Your attempt to consider an alternative narrative may leave you open to charges of thoughtcrime.
I don't know if CCP will every come out and explain fully what happened - they would best know. Whatever it is though, doubtless people will just scream at them that they should ban all goons, so I don't know if "wait and see" or "discussing petitions is not appropriate for GD" would be the best response. Thanks for that. Sounds like there is a problem that needs fixing with the War Dec glitch, and every thing else is a series of (logical) misunderstandings (on the part of Goons, Thorn, and CCP) with that glitch as ultimately the root cause. Kind of a mess cascade all the way around, but pretty understandable on all parts. It will probably take a while for this band wagon to lose momentum though. Well there were a lot of weird things - everyone's forgotten the GCC/"red blinking overview" bug from TiDi by now, I suppose. As they say, there's always next time. Look forward to meeting your friendly "shoot to instakill" police force, CONCORD and the local Political "1400mm Artillery summary execution" Commissariat of the CFC.
Don't you guys have a mining OP now? |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:31:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:This was a good troll thread. The sad thing is.. He wasn't really trolling and actually believed the bullshit that he typed. |
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I'm 5particus
REV0LTING
14
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:32:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote: Goons need to save face fast!
Not as much face as Panic Legion, who's A-Team got pwned the other night by the Gallente Milita.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1748
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:32:00 -
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Fannie Maes I understand what you are saying, but I think it's pretty relevant that:
The Goons thought there was a war dec active and either saw red targets (other glitches due to TiDi were going on), or saw grey targets that they thought should be red as war targets. Either way, the logical response would be to petition CCP.
and
Investigating the nature of the war dec glitch is very probably much more time consuming for CCP than the easily verifiable war dec that was supposed to be in effect. If they checked and saw the war dec listed in their records it would be very easy to believe that an exploit was being used.
I don't really see any foul play on the part of Thorn, CCP or the Goons this time around. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:38:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Fannie Maes I understand what you are saying, but I think it's pretty relevant that: ...
I wish I had a GM on contacts that can deal with my issues in 10 minutes over losing a few logis to a griefing. As far as I know only Goons and BoB have enjoyed this special treatment. I also like the fact that the GM went and blew them up without checking out what was wrong and just go by the Goon FC petition then. I also like the fact that they are crying like babies in this thread and showing everyone in EVE that they are in-fact what they them-self despise and mock daily. I also laugh when they kept doing same mistake because they have no ability to learn.
Alas, I and the rest of eve have to wait days to get **** fixed. We also don't petition Goons for griefing. |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:39:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:This was a good troll thread. The sad thing is.. He wasn't really trolling and actually believed the bullshit that he typed.
The sad thing is that you got offended. |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
846
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:41:00 -
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please learn the difference between griefing and bug/exploit tia or die ingame
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:43:00 -
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PL lost face ages ago, it is like pointing out the fact that Goons pets in the CFC like FA, SMA and others are pathetic, which they are and Goons keep them blue because they care about their empire and mining ops now more than what even BoB use to.
The burn Jita is just a means to drive up prices for their care-bear stuff anyway
Nah, goons have sure lost face!
Just another BoB or whatever these days. Goons like SA are a thing of the past, now they are both sad. |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:43:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:please learn the difference between griefing and bug/exploit tia or die ingame
Please learn not to be stupid, oh wait, your FC is... |
Krios Ahzek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
846
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:45:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:please learn the difference between griefing and bug/exploit tia or die ingame Please learn not to be stupid, oh wait, your FC is...
this is the weakest insult since
-áThough All Men Do Despise Us |
Fannie Maes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
107
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Posted - 2012.05.02 06:49:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:please learn the difference between griefing and bug/exploit tia or die ingame Please learn not to be stupid, oh wait, your FC is... this is the weakest insult since
I know, since it is true. Even a lot of goons admit openly that he is an idiot.
By the way, do you notice how no respected goons are posting in this thread? And only the likes of you? Because they like the rest of us think what the FC and fleet did was a really pathetic thing to do and makes you look stupid and a bunch of cry-babies.
You know what you are? A follower and a sad one at that, you come on these forums posting about how "cool" you and your guys event is and feel proud that some internet blog mentioned your alliance name but in reality you are just a goon. Not relevant and you are also meaningless. |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:32:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
I wasn't aware that ordinary devs answer ordinary petitions in mere minutes for ordinary players.
Are you actually claiming the GM didn't respond quickly to the petition because it was one of his Goon buddies?
I mean seriously? You are actually trying to say that?
Being a member in Goonswarm comes with such privileges as having GMs take care of your petitions in 10minutes, the GM will also not check your petition and just take your word for it, join today! All you need to do is have little SP, know nothing about the game, like ability to dock with a logi in a fight and act cool and troll on the forums 24/7 about how casual and NOT serious at all you are!
Wow, 19 pages... maybe this wont go away like you want it to goonies lol
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3975
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:37:00 -
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Fannie Maes wrote:By the way, do you notice how no respected goons are posting in this thread?
what the hell is a "respected goon" "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:44:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Karadion Kohlar wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:i must confirm that the ex-goon devs have kept nothing of their past allegiances except their tremendous posting skills and out of the ordinary cleverness Well I guess now we know where Incarna came from. Actually Darius (Screegs) is responsible for banning your bots and reversing your RMT transactions. The other guy is Stoffer (CCP Soundwave) which he's responsible for just about everything in the game IIRC. Whaaaaaaaat?! Goons QQing about RMT?? Thought you dont "police EVE for CCP" as you said all those times in those RMT and botting threads? no we're saying a goon (Darius JOHNSON, now CCP Sreegs) is responsible for nuking RMT and botting
wasnt he a Goon? So yay Goons DO work for CCP
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:45:00 -
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Andski wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:By the way, do you notice how no respected goons are posting in this thread? what the hell is a "respected goon"
Mittani's alt obviously
I like how post #295-301 are things that are actionable as spam/troll/personal attacks. But its a goon so even if you report it nothing will happen
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Rukia Taika
Dueces Wyld Jokers Wild.
10
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:46:00 -
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The only option the GOONS have at this time to Disband and then biomass their toons. |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
108
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:50:00 -
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Jessie42 wrote:Fannie Maes wrote:La Nariz wrote:Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
Are you actually claiming the GM didn't respond quickly to the petition because it was one of his Goon buddies?
I mean seriously? You are actually trying to say that?
Another angry mindless thorn NPC alt here to expel progressed chyme from their entrance to their alimentary canal. Everyone is a thorn member like everyone complaining about BoB was a goon alt amirite? You are literally the worst poster. Biomass your character.
I like how you attack the poster and not the accusation.
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
192
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:55:00 -
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Sounds like another GM is gonna get fired.
Oh and posting in another GMs are corrupt *shocker* thread |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
110
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Posted - 2012.05.02 07:57:00 -
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Tippia wrote:It doesn't count if you use a machine gun and get one lucky hitGǪ
omg Tippia agreeing theres a scandal
j/k well you DID say it as a lucky hit
Vaal Erit wrote:Sounds like another GM is gonna get fired.
Oh and posting in another GMs are corrupt *shocker* thread
Your face O.o there isnt one
Nice to leave from the game and come back to the same **** happening huh?
Jessie-A Tassik wrote:
So you omitted the GM name.
Oh yeah, I'm feeling my trust in your statements building.
It was a random GM, but we have to protect his identity!
Oh yeah, trust levels are surging.
hey neat... they have the name can we cave it so we can mail and ask questions? REMEMBER CCP want to be TRANSPARENT
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
838
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Posted - 2012.05.02 08:02:00 -
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Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:no we're saying a goon (Darius JOHNSON, now CCP Sreegs) is responsible for nuking RMT and botting wasnt he a Goon? So yay Goons DO work for CCP
I... I... Wow. Just...
Wow.
Well, to spell it out for you:
Yes. Sreegs and at least one other CCP guy (I believe) were Goons. Just like many other CCP devs and GMs that have come from the playerbase, and many of the devs and gms actually do play the game as anonymous alts -- and by the laws of probability, no doubt quite a few of them are PVPers.
I do imagine they gravitate towards roles that keep them out of the limelight -- nothing like a sharp eared smartass on Mumble realizing that the FC sounds a lot like CCP HerpDerp to ruin someone's day.
I do wish to point out that I definitely mean were Goons -- Darius is no longer in Goonswarm and hasn't been in quite some time. |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
110
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Posted - 2012.05.02 08:05:00 -
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Xython wrote:
I do imagine they gravitate towards roles that keep them out of the limelight -- nothing like a sharp eared smartass on Mumble realizing that the FC sounds a lot like CCP HerpDerp to ruin someone's day.
so reposting GM Communication/chat logs is OK for Goons?
I refer to: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1228681#post1228681
Yeah an T20 never really helped out BoB at all.
Was is Sreegs that helped you?
Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game |
Sigurd Sig Hansen
Hedion University Amarr Empire
111
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Posted - 2012.05.02 08:11:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:There should be some kind of internet thing,
Where if a thread was started by an NPC corp character,
And if most of the posts are from GSF,
The thread gets automatically elevated to Internal Affairs for being correct and likely true,
Yes, I agree with you now
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