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Deielle
The Sobani
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.03.30 23:07:00 -
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To make this short, I'd like to know at what point all of you fine pilots find it's economically efficient to use decryptors. I know all about them and what they do, but I've always shied away from their use, because they can be a hefty addition to your average total cost when you're running job after job. Obviously, it wouldn't be wise to use them for ammunition, so I have a feeling they'd be more centered around ships, but what type? Cruisers? HAC's? Battleships?
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Susung
Alt Anti-defamation League
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Posted - 2009.03.30 23:21:00 -
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I usually dont use them, mostly on larger ships marauders mostly or command ships.
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Deielle
The Sobani
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.03.30 23:29:00 -
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Well, to clarify, if I were going to, it would certainly be the few that increases my overall chance for success.
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.31 05:35:00 -
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Do the math and see if the modified chance, added runs, and modified ME will make your invention more profitable, and if it does, use the decryptors. That's really the high and low of it.
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Khrillian
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.03.31 07:21:00 -
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For most mods don't use decryptors, so if you don't feel like doing the math to figure out which ones are best, or investing the ISK you need to keep a huge production line going where you invent yourself, make mods and don't worry about it.
Plus, so many ship BPCs sell for close to or sometimes less than expected costs to have a successful invention job, so you're better off buying those.
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Braaage
Ministry of Craft
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Posted - 2009.03.31 10:35:00 -
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Whilst we're on the subject of invention it's worth repeating about using modules (base items) in the invention job.
You should NEVER put in a ship as a base item as it does not change the outcome of the invention job, all it does is cost you a lot more ISK.
All modules that aren't named will not change the outcome of the invention job. Look at the info of the module for an attribute called "Meta level", if it does not show the item your looking at is meta level 0. All meta level 0 items will never increase the invention outcome. All tech 1 ships are meta level 0.
Named modules come in various meta level values but the only ones you can use for invention are meta levels 1 to 4. Meta level 5 are tech II and higher meta levels are faction/officer modules/stuff.
Just remember this - It's not worth putting in any base items in any invention job.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.03.31 10:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Deielle
Obviously, it wouldn't be wise to use them for ammunition, so I have a feeling they'd be more centered around ships, but what type? Cruisers? HAC's? Battleships?
Get this one and play with it, answer your own questions.
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Deielle
The Sobani
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.03.31 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Get this one and play with it, answer your own questions.
Already have it, but thanks. It's not as if I blindly posted this question the moment I conjured it up in my head; I looked around; I did some research. But that's the great thing about forums: you can freely ask others for their opinions.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.03.31 18:05:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 31/03/2009 18:09:43
Umm... so... why ask for opinions if you already know the facts ?
Or should I understand you don't already know the facts ? Do you need explaining on how to use that program ?
Let me rephrase that...
The profitability (or lack thereof) of each decryptor constantly shifts from "awesome" to "hell no" depending on its current market price, on what you want to invent with it, on your skills, on current price of the thing you're trying to invent, on current price of needed datacores, BPC (and if any, the metaitem) and on current price of materials used in the manufacture of what you want to invent.
There is no simple answer of "this type of decryptor is useful for this type of item" or "what decryptor is best for this item type", it's NEVER the same answer on a day-to-day and item-to-item basis.
OPINIONS about it are worthless, the only relevant thing is the MATH.
And you have the tool that does the math for you, all you have to do is edit prices.
And you don't need opinions to edit prices, you just have to browse the market.
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