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Mendolence	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:26:00 - [1] My apologies for sounding noobish, but... I heard recently that a section of the Providence region is, generally speaking, open to all comers. Who has sovereignty out there? Do you have to request permission? Anyone have any experiences in Providence they care to relate? Thanks in advance. -M
SR65 Amarr Core Impulse PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:32:00 - [2] Providence is ran mostly by CVA, PXF, and LFA alliances. They all have sov here. They operate on a NRDS (not red dont shoot) policy. So if you're blue or neutral to them, they will leave you alone. If you're on their kill on sight list (like me :D ) then they will attempt to shoot you with 50:1 odds and blob with capital ships. So you can go there and mine and rat, just can't setup POSs.
Clocky	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:34:00 - [3] If you go to Y-MPL its CVA space and is NRDS (Not Red Dont Shoot). I does not mean you wont be shot by anyone just not CVA or CVA alliance members. If in dout ask in local. When i was there they seemed pretty nice guys and gave me no problems -). Have fun.
Mendolence	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:37:00 - [4] Thanks for the info guys. Is it pretty crowded? Pirates pretty active? -M
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:39:00 - [5] Do keep in mind that Providence is still 0.0. This means that you are not save there. You aren't save anywhere in Eve. There are pirates, or roaming gangs of other alliances going through. (Although I will admit, Providence IS a deathtrap.) If you go there, be sure to contact the locals, get yourself known, and get into their main intel channel, so you can notice when evil people come into Providence. Also, don't yell in local for help. Seriously, don't. ---------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
Trustworthy Joe	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:44:00 - [6] Originally by: Batolemaeus Also, don't yell in local for help. Seriously, don't. shh, thats half the fun in all seriousness, providence is a great region for newer players to try out 0.0, and even though i may come through there once in a while to shoot people, i always point some of my empire bear buddies towards CVA. go try it, you should enjoy it _______________________ with a name as trustworthy as mine, i cant POSSIBLY be an alt
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:44:00 - [7] Providencs is a nice region, with nice guys, and about the only place where NRDS is used afaik. It lets newcommers explore 0.0, and opens up for interesting opportunities to hang with the cool guys that run the place. But do understand, CVA runs the show there, and they make the rules, break them and you find yourself on the kill list and will be shot at and podded. It is not safe either, pirates make incursion into CVA space and the show no quarter. So one must be able to take care of oneself, but its actually safer then low sec. CVA truly is glorious, and I belive the Empress holds them in favour :)
Areo Hotah Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:53:00 - [8] Everybody is welcome in Providence. Only if you are on the CVA KOS list, you will be shot. If you are not sure about your status, check here: http://www.cva-eve.org/kos/index.php (alliance first, then corp, then player) Notice: players in NPC corporations whos former corporation is KOS, are also considered KOS. If you want to be removed from the KOS list, you can join the channel "CVA diplo" and some deal can be made (someone correct me if there needs to be a dash in there). You are free to rat, mine and explore in every Providence system, as well as do copy, research, invent, produce, and trade in every of the 30+ stations. There are no rules that CVA or one of members of the holder alliances (Paxton, LFA, Severance, Cold Steel Alliance, Aegis Militia) can claim a belt for themselves, and ask you to leave. However, hanging around a tad too long around a gate camp makes you look suspicious, and you might get shot if you don't leave after being asked. As mentioned, putting up a POS requires special permission. Then again, with all those stations and close to empire, you don't really need one. If you set AAA and UK red, you have the majority of the roamers who shoot everybody they can, but you are not even close to having all of the reds. If you stay around longer, you can gain access to the intel channels keeping you updated on the position of hostiles. CVA and all the other residents take great care to clear the space of hostiles, so generally you are pretty safe, but it is still 0.0.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:53:00 - [9] Excellent region for hunting Sanshas Win an Aeon for only 10M ISK

Mendolence	Posted - 2009.03.31 18:53:00 - [10] Again, thanks for the info. I realize it's 0.0, but I'm having a hard time imagining that it could be any worse than the low-sec space I'm currently "living" in (vis-a-vis pirate activity). But, I've never been to 0.0, so I could be way off base. My corp is thinking about heading to 0.0 since low-sec is, curiously, not very lucrative. -M

Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.03.31 19:07:00 - [11] Originally by: Mendolence Again, thanks for the info. I realize it's 0.0, but I'm having a hard time imagining that it could be any worse than the low-sec space I'm currently "living" in (vis-a-vis pirate activity). But, I've never been to 0.0, so I could be way off base. My corp is thinking about heading to 0.0 since low-sec is, curiously, not very lucrative. -M The main difference in 0.0 and low sec is the resources there. 0.0 got better resources, but also allowes for warp disruption bubbles, but toher then that 0.0 is nice, if you get along with the locals
Unity Love Caldari Knights of Destiny Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.03.31 19:48:00 - [12] Yea all the Providence holders allow neutrals/blues and are normally actively helpful. If you've got any questions about coming down get in touch with me, because i'm really bored :/
crockett EXE Minmatar Mutineers	Posted - 2009.03.31 20:07:00 - [13] Edited by: crockett EXE on 31/03/2009 20:08:52 Originally by: Mendolence Again, thanks for the info. I realize it's 0.0, but I'm having a hard time imagining that it could be any worse than the low-sec space I'm currently "living" in (vis-a-vis pirate activity). But, I've never been to 0.0, so I could be way off base. My corp is thinking about heading to 0.0 since low-sec is, curiously, not very lucrative. -M Low sec is much more dangerous than Providence IMHO. The only real danger in Providence is that you get too lax, because hardly no one ever shoots at you. You could then easily fall victim to a roaming pirate. This happened to one of my corporates yesterday as someone warped in while he was ratting and killed him. It's very easy to not be cautious enough being it's much safer than low sec. You do still have to watch local and be aware of who warped into a belt with you. Personally I find the place a little boring because there isn't any PvP action unless you are there to pirate. Some of my corpmates are wanting to make ISK so we are there for now ratting belt and I'm personally bored to death.. On the flip side I do like what they have done there and it's cool to have a neutral friendly place in 0.0. I just wish there was a bit more action in the area. Personally I think pirates whom hunt carebears there are about the same as people whom toss out cans at noob stations.
Jhagiti Tyran Mortis Angelus	Posted - 2009.03.31 20:21:00 - [14] Originally by: crockett EXE Personally I think pirates whom hunt carebears there are about the same as people whom toss out cans at noob stations. lol space bushido
MinSebsis Minmatar Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.31 20:26:00 - [15] Place is not very safe at all. I know, I get shot at all the time... We come for our people!
skye orionis	Posted - 2009.03.31 20:36:00 - [16] It's a good idea to set your personal standings so that CVA/Paxton/Severance/Sylph and other affiliated alliance members are blue, and known enemies/pirates are red - AAA, UK. Then you can get a good idea from local chat who's possibly a pirate. Some parts of Catch are also held by alliances with a NRDS policy - check the tactical maps that show sov and you can get an idea where it's safe to roam.
Rifter Drifter Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.31 20:42:00 - [17] Confirming Providence is the place to be when relaxing.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.31 20:49:00 - [18] Quote: ersonally I find the place a little boring because there isn't any PvP action unless you are there to pirate. Some of my corpmates are wanting to make ISK so we are there for now ratting belt and I'm personally bored to death.. Try paxton space, and systems arround it. Especially D-G, since it borders to AAA space sees plenty of reds. If you are a bit suicidal you can continue tod F9E/SV5. If you are really suicidal you can do one more jump and you are in HED. Which is kinda sucky for your health. --------------------------------------------- Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
OffBeaT Caldari LEGI0N Soul Cartel	Posted - 2009.03.31 20:52:00 - [19] you must conform to cva and her puppy Allis, it is a eve life of service to your master amarr.. you will be a good dog for cva with there Borg ideals.. good boy! Free prov/catch of cva and her pet alliances...
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.03.31 21:03:00 - [20] The Masters of Providence welcome all willing to serve them and their vile Amarrian "god". Deal with them at your own risk. -- Becq Starforged The Flame of Freedom Burns On!

Anton Marx Caldari Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.31 21:03:00 - [21] Originally by: Furb Killer Quote: ersonally I find the place a little boring because there isn't any PvP action unless you are there to pirate. Some of my corpmates are wanting to make ISK so we are there for now ratting belt and I'm personally bored to death.. Try paxton space, and systems arround it. Especially D-G, since it borders to AAA space sees plenty of reds. If you are a bit suicidal you can continue tod F9E/SV5. If you are really suicidal you can do one more jump and you are in HED. Which is kinda sucky for your health. That is not true. All neutrals are welcome to visit HED-GP from within 0.0 or even better from the Empire side (Keberz) of this truly beautiful solar system. Don't by shy to pay a visit and remember to wave at the guys welcoming you at the gates. \\o DESTROYED Against ALL Authorities ?????! (c) Ivan Wise
OffBeaT Caldari LEGI0N Soul Cartel	Posted - 2009.03.31 21:08:00 - [22] Originally by: Anton Marx Originally by: Furb Killer Quote: ersonally I find the place a little boring because there isn't any PvP action unless you are there to pirate. Some of my corpmates are wanting to make ISK so we are there for now ratting belt and I'm personally bored to death.. Try paxton space, and systems arround it. Especially D-G, since it borders to AAA space sees plenty of reds. If you are a bit suicidal you can continue tod F9E/SV5. If you are really suicidal you can do one more jump and you are in HED. Which is kinda sucky for your health. That is not true. All neutrals are welcome to visit HED-GP from within 0.0 or even better from the Empire side (Keberz) of this truly beautiful solar system. Don't by shy to pay a visit and remember to wave at the guys welcoming you at the gates. \\o
Shikome Alluin Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.31 21:31:00 - [23] Edited by: Shikome Alluin on 31/03/2009 21:38:02 Originally by: Anton Marx That is not true. All neutrals are welcome to visit HED-GP from within 0.0 or even better from the Empire side (Keberz) of this truly beautiful solar system. Don't by shy to pay a visit and remember to wave at the guys welcoming you at the gates. \\o Play nice now mr Marx :P Originally by: skye orionis Some parts of Catch are also held by alliances with a NRDS policy Originally by: OffBeaT Free prov/catch of cva and her pet alliances... Catch is AAA space now. /sighs, I miss you IAC Originally by: OffBeaT you must conform to cva and her puppy Allis, it is a eve life of service to your master amarr.. you will be a good dog for cva with there Borg ideals.. good boy! Free prov/catch of cva and her pet alliances... Resistance before Amarr is Futile! We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our Corp Hangers. Your culture will adapt to service Amarr. Amarr Victory! Originally by: Mendolence Providence region is, generally speaking, open to all comers. True. Im in no way an official in these matters though. So Ill let somebody with a true Amarrian voice speak on these matters. Ps. We have been known to roleplay o/ Aloha mr Hand
Vidi Angelus Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.03.31 22:27:00 - [24] I'll chip in and say Provi is a great place to spend time. The people are friendly, Rats are pretty good. Biggest danger is getting complacent, I hardly even bother watching local anymore (Heck, half the time I'm AFK while ratting). during GMT daytime hours there is almost no pirates to be bothered by, although it seems much more busy during GMT night. If in doubt, come in something cheap and spend a few days, nothing to lose by trying eh? ;) Best Ratting spots (imo) can be found in TXJ- (0.02 sec, 4 belts) and adjacent GA9P(0.04, 12 belts) Both of these systems are deep into provi, so its extremely rare for any pirates to survive it there. Good Flying!
Hardin Amarr Nictus Astartes The Astral Storm	Posted - 2009.03.31 23:29:00 - [25] This website can answer some questions. The Guide and FAQ section should be useful: http://www.cva-eve.org/ ----- Alliance Creation/Corp Expansion Services http://internetspacewars.blogspot.com/
Mutnin	Posted - 2009.04.01 11:24:00 - [26] Edited by: Mutnin on 01/04/2009 11:24:11 Well as a warning to any others.. It appears that the part of Providence that the "Sev3rance" alliance hold isn't friendly to neutrals. I just got popped in a frig at a lame warp bubble gate camp. I've read about warp bubbles on the forum before, but dam that's gotta be the lamest way to get a kill I've ever seen. If that's all they can do out in 0.0 to get kills, I'll just stay in low sec where people actually hunt for their kills.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.01 11:58:00 - [27] Nice place, very hostile. Good response times from CVA + pets, so dont forget your cloak. Some areas of catch next to providence extend the NRDS ROE and are currently held by Sylph alliance and S3verance. You're safer staying within providence proper as you generally get a report of any hostiles in your area much quicker and people will come to help you out. Wave if you see me float past. We come for our people
Mutnin	Posted - 2009.04.01 12:08:00 - [28] Edited by: Mutnin on 01/04/2009 12:12:07 Originally by: Xennith Nice place, very hostile. Good response times from CVA + pets, so dont forget your cloak. Some areas of catch next to providence extend the NRDS ROE and are currently held by Sylph alliance and S3verance. You're safer staying within providence proper as you generally get a report of any hostiles in your area much quicker and people will come to help you out. Wave if you see me float past. This isn't true.. I was just killed by a S3verance Alliance with a warp bubble camp gate camp, while I was otw to CVA held providence. S3verance obviously doesn't appear to honor any NRDS policy as I know this alt was not on any red lists being it's only a few weeks old. I like what CVA does out there but S3verance might as well add me to a Red list because after what just happened.. I'll be doing my best in the future to harass those A holes. I had a bunch of BPO's I wanted to research out in CVA Providence..
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.01 12:19:00 - [29] It is known that severance can sometimes be a bit trigger happy. Allthough usually the ones killed were also doing stupid things. If you think you shouldn't have been shot you can always contact one of their diplomats, or if that doesn't work cva diplomats. If you indeed shouldn't have been shot you will be reimbursed. If you start shooting sev now you will become KOS in providence and most of amarr low sec. --------------------------------------------- Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.04.01 12:22:00 - [30] Allegations of sev3rance shooting neutrals are not exactly new. Take it up with a sev3rance diplomat or ask CVA to approach them, but the forum is not the right place to air this kind of grievance and will only serve to harm your argument. Easy solution of course is to just shoot sev3rance and by extension CVA etc.

Discrodia Gallente Independent Miners Guild Guild Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.01 12:26:00 - [31] BEWARE THE PROVIBLOB! Long story short, based on the experience of my mimy RP friend, don't get on their bad side. Other than that, it's pretty safe as long as you're smart.
Mutnin	Posted - 2009.04.01 12:29:00 - [32] Originally by: Furb Killer It is known that severance can sometimes be a bit trigger happy. Allthough usually the ones killed were also doing stupid things. If you think you shouldn't have been shot you can always contact one of their diplomats, or if that doesn't work cva diplomats. If you indeed shouldn't have been shot you will be reimbursed. If you start shooting sev now you will become KOS in providence and most of amarr low sec. Man this alt has been sitting in a station since the day it was created. I've been doing the basic training for PvP and only fought 1 guy in a mutual 1 v 1, just to see how the Punisher worked for a noob. There is no way I was on any red lists. The only reason I was even going out to Providence was because that was the only place in the whole dam EvE universe I could find any open ME & copy spots for BPO's. I figured I could at least make a little money with this alt researching some BP's while he trained up his basic skills.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.01 12:31:00 - [33] Still you should take it to a diplomat and not to forums. And there are some cases in which neuts can be shot, like if you don't immediatly leave a bubble camp when you get into it, then they think you are a spy.
Durzel The Xenodus Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.01 12:33:00 - [34] Edited by: Durzel on 01/04/2009 12:33:14 Originally by: Mutnin I like what CVA does out there but S3verance might as well add me to a Red list because after what just happened.. I'll be doing my best in the future to harass those A holes. I had a bunch of BPO's I wanted to research out in CVA Providence.. Don't take this the wrong way but that kind of attitude is just weak. At the end of the day you were in their sovereign space, they have every right to shoot you if they feel like it for whatever reason they chose. You can't complain about this really, if it wasn't them it could just as easily have been a roaming gang sat on the gate. CVA/Sev3rance or whoever aren't your guardian angels, nor are they necessarily your friends, they (CVA at least) have an open policy of tolerating visitors, that's all. If you're in 0.0 you should expect to be killed at any given time, by warp bubbles or whatever.
Mutnin	Posted - 2009.04.01 12:43:00 - [35] Originally by: Durzel Edited by: Durzel on 01/04/2009 12:33:14 Originally by: Mutnin I like what CVA does out there but S3verance might as well add me to a Red list because after what just happened.. I'll be doing my best in the future to harass those A holes. I had a bunch of BPO's I wanted to research out in CVA Providence.. Don't take this the wrong way but that kind of attitude is just weak. At the end of the day you were in their sovereign space, they have every right to shoot you if they feel like it for whatever reason they chose. You can't complain about this really, if it wasn't them it could just as easily have been a roaming gang sat on the gate. CVA/Sev3rance or whoever aren't your guardian angels, nor are they necessarily your friends, they (CVA at least) have an open policy of tolerating visitors, that's all. If you're in 0.0 you should expect to be killed at any given time, by warp bubbles or whatever. Hence the reason.. I'm posting that S3verance isn't honoring a NRDS policy. Hey, I can accept the fact that you get shot at in 0.0 space. However if they claim they run a NRDS policy and then they don't, well then it needs to be posted about to warn others. CVA has been cool in my books.. I have a different alt and I go out to Providence and rat with.. They seem pretty cool and as I posted before I like what they are doing with the place but this today with S3 guys ****ed me off and cost me a lot of wasted time on partially researched BPO's.
Vidi Angelus Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.04.01 13:15:00 - [36] Mutnin , The correct way to go about it would be to contact diplomats first, and complain on the forums if you do not like the result. Complaining in the forums will only hurt your chance of being reimbursed for your troubles. You'll find provi diplomats to be very helpful, provided you don't upset them first!
Mutnin	Posted - 2009.04.01 13:32:00 - [37] Edited by: Mutnin on 01/04/2009 13:32:53 Originally by: Vidi Angelus Mutnin , The correct way to go about it would be to contact diplomats first, and complain on the forums if you do not like the result. Complaining in the forums will only hurt your chance of being reimbursed for your troubles. You'll find provi diplomats to be very helpful, provided you don't upset them first! I have no clue how to contact their diplomats, there isn't any info in the game in their alliance info, and I have no clue about how 0.0 politics work. All I know is everyone claims they are NRDS which apparently isn't true so I'm warning others of their actions. I'm not going to go crying to them, I'm just going to warn others so it doesn't happen to them. As for reimbursement, I don't see why they would and they certainly won't be able to reimburse my time in research. I could care less about the ISK.. It's the time involved in the BPO's and the worthless skills to be able to research them. Hell, I never even would have bothered with BPO's if I knew before hand that you can't research them anywhere in the known Eve universe. I'm not even going to bother with them anymore it's just not worth it.
Batolemaeus Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.01 13:58:00 - [38] Edited by: Batolemaeus on 01/04/2009 13:59:28 There is a lot of info, if you actually cared to do your research. So stop crying and suck it up. Eve I know their diplos..and i haven't been to providence on friendly terms for years.. ---------------------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
Dartonias Sirion KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance	Posted - 2009.04.01 14:05:00 - [39] Mutnin, from the look of your kill mail and the age of your toon, you were probably hanging around far too long at a gate camp and not leaving after being asked to. We are NRDS, but noobs sitting at our gatecamps SCREAMS spy. Its hard enough to keep the area clean without letting the reds bring neutrals in to scout for them to get out safely. If you think that's wrong eve mail me in game and I'll get an anwser for you.
Kumq uat Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2009.04.01 14:11:00 - [40] Hai guyz! What's going on in this thread? Oh. Hai Sevy! www.eve-pirate.com original author

Mutnin	Posted - 2009.04.01 14:18:00 - [41] Edited by: Mutnin on 01/04/2009 14:18:44 Originally by: Dartonias Sirion Mutnin, from the look of your kill mail and the age of your toon, you were probably hanging around far too long at a gate camp and not leaving after being asked to. We are NRDS, but noobs sitting at our gatecamps SCREAMS spy. Its hard enough to keep the area clean without letting the reds bring neutrals in to scout for them to get out safely. If you think that's wrong eve mail me in game and I'll get an anwser for you. Your guys had a warp bubble out, I wasn't sitting anywhwere. I couldn't get out of it before they shot and killed me..No one asked me to leave, they shot on contact with no warning.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.01 14:35:00 - [42] Quote: I'll be doing my best in the future to harass those A holes You think sev will failcascade when some random research alt starts attacking their members? --------------------------------------------- Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.01 14:47:00 - [43] Originally by: Mutnin Your guys had a warp bubble out, I wasn't sitting anywhwere. I couldn't get out of it before they shot and killed me..No one asked me to leave, they shot on contact with no warning. I have yet to understand how it accomplishes anything for people with grievances for whatever flippant reason they felt slighted in the past, roll neutral alts and find the first bubble they can, and deliberately get popped. Whether they target lock, bump, or just hang around an ongoing gang much too long, they then immediately come on here, find the most recent Providence thread, and start raising holy hell as if the sky is falling. Good f@#%ing lord you lost a T1 frigate and a pod on an alt that from your own admission barely ever gets taken out of station. Why this deserves forum camping and bloody endless tears is beyond me. Whatever possible impact you believe you have had on political relations and atmosphere between CVA and Holder alliances is laughable at best. They did their job.* NRDS in Providence is a privilege, not a right. Learn to deal with acceptable losses, or ask for reimbursement in a civil and diplomatic way. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Buster Gonads	Posted - 2009.04.01 14:47:00 - [44] Anyone remember CFS? I get the same feel-good factor from the CVA guys as I used to when I flew with them. Certainly a nice relaxed bunch. Highly recommended.
Mutnin	Posted - 2009.04.01 14:59:00 - [45] Edited by: Mutnin on 01/04/2009 15:03:09 Originally by: Mendolus Originally by: Mutnin Your guys had a warp bubble out, I wasn't sitting anywhwere. I couldn't get out of it before they shot and killed me..No one asked me to leave, they shot on contact with no warning. I have yet to understand how it accomplishes anything for people with grievances for whatever flippant reason they felt slighted in the past, roll neutral alts and find the first bubble they can, and deliberately get popped. Whether they target lock, bump, or just hang around an ongoing gang much too long, they then immediately come on here, find the most recent Providence thread, and start raising holy hell as if the sky is falling. Good f@#%ing lord you lost a T1 frigate and a pod on an alt that from your own admission barely ever gets taken out of station. Why this deserves forum camping and bloody endless tears is beyond me. Whatever possible impact you believe you have had on political relations and atmosphere between CVA and Holder alliances is laughable at best. They did their job.* NRDS in Providence is a privilege, not a right. Learn to deal with acceptable losses, or ask for reimbursement in a civil and diplomatic way. It seems you didn't read what I posted before making your commit. I could care less about the ship or getting killed. I'm ticked because I was carrying partially researched BPO's. I'm ticked because it wasn't pirates whom shot me.. It was alliance members whom claim they follow NRDS rules. If I would have been ganked by pirate, I wouldn't have ever said a word, I would have taken the lumps. However being this "is" a topic asking about "Providence" it's rightfully a topic for me to post my experience about the area. To at least warn others like the OP, that all these alliances don't truly follow NRDS rules. Some rightfully do like CVA whom I've had only good experances with, but it appears I'm not the only one that has had this happen when it comes to S3.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.01 15:12:00 - [46] Originally by: Mutnin It seems you didn't read what I posted before making your commit. I could care less about the ship or getting killed. I'm ticked because I was carrying partially researched BPO's. I'm ticked because it wasn't pirates whom shot me.. It was alliance members whom claim they follow NRDS rules. If I would have been ganked by pirate, I wouldn't have ever said a word, I would have taken the lumps. However being this "is" a topic asking about "Providence" it's rightfully a topic for me to post my experience about the area. To at least warn others like the OP, that all these alliances don't truly follow NRDS rules. Some rightfully do like CVA whom I've had only good experances with, but it appears I'm not the only one that has had this happen when it comes to S3. Your responses are so scripted and predictable I could almost bank good money on them. How many times are people going to try this trick? {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Mutnin	Posted - 2009.04.01 15:14:00 - [47] Originally by: Mendolus Your responses are so scripted and predictable I could almost bank good money on them. How many times are people going to try this trick? Well there sure is one thing Eve isn't short on.. That's paranoid forum trolls.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.01 15:27:00 - [48] Originally by: Mutnin Originally by: Mendolus Your responses are so scripted and predictable I could almost bank good money on them. How many times are people going to try this trick? Well there sure is one thing Eve isn't short on.. That's paranoid forum trolls. You know how I know? Because even when you are treated with respect and given the time of day by multiple posters, given credible, practical, and rational responses and advice on what you could have done differently or how you could have approached the situation with some diplomacy and actually reached persons of interest within both CVA and S3V, you instead keep hocking the same story. That's how I know. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}
Mutnin	Posted - 2009.04.01 15:32:00 - [49] Originally by: Mendolus Originally by: Mutnin Originally by: Mendolus Your responses are so scripted and predictable I could almost bank good money on them. How many times are people going to try this trick? Well there sure is one thing Eve isn't short on.. That's paranoid forum trolls. You know how I know? Because even when you are treated with respect and given the time of day by multiple posters, given credible, practical, and rational responses and advice on what you could have done differently or how you could have approached the situation with some diplomacy and actually reached persons of interest within both CVA and S3V, you instead keep hocking the same story. That's how I know. Maybe you are right.. I'm just a bit irritated at the situation and I'm not the type that is going to go begging for some reimbursment. I was just trying to warn others of what just happened to me. I've done that so this is the last post on the subject.
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.04.01 15:54:00 - [50] Originally by: Mutnin Maybe you are right.. I'm just a bit irritated at the situation and I'm not the type that is going to go begging for some reimbursment. I was just trying to warn others of what just happened to me. I've done that so this is the last post on the subject. Fair enough. It is not begging however. It is your responsibility to contact those involved in the kill, and speak with a CVA diplomat to determine what course of action should be taken. Just because you do not want the money, does not mean it is not important to alert CVA in the rare chance that the action was in fact a real transgression. These things can and do happen, even if only rarely, and there have been actions taken against the transgressors just like any other person, corporation, or alliance who breaks the NRDS. CVA and other Holder alliances do a wonderful job of keeping themselves in check and running a tight ship, which is why you will find little support here to the theory that quote, "/...all these alliances don't truly follow NRDS rules." as you stated earlier, because it simply is not true. If there was any possibility of wrongdoing, they would act on it. I have seen it happen before, and they took the right course of action. If you were killed, there are one of two possibilities vis a vis S3V's motivation in doing so. 99.99% You hung around too long, they were on an active gang operation, there were reports of neutrals engaging people in the area, they were dealing with other neutral spies that were being used by a red gang, and you happened to look extra suspicious and being their sovereign space they had every right to take action to protect it. 00.01% They just wanted to pop you for the fun and because they thought they could get away with it since they have sovereignty there. In the latter case, if CVA finds legitimate evidence of said behavior, the corporation or alliance involved will be held accountable, served a notice that they are to reimburse the interested party, or further reprimands and actions will be taken. {...and they will respect a line drawn in the sand more than forgiveness}

Royal Sinner	Posted - 2009.04.01 16:32:00 - [51] Edited by: Royal Sinner on 01/04/2009 16:34:27 @Mutnin: I¦ve been in the system when u were shot. U have been considered as a spy because u talked about the exact position of the Sev3rance defence Fleet and their Gatecamp in Localchanel while reds were in system. Considering this and the age of your alt u should not be suprised that -7- thought u were a spy and shot u. Contact a -7-Diplo if u want to avoid perma KOS standing. But your smack in Local and in this forum will not help u get your ship back. And u should learn how to behave in Providence before u start blaiming the Holders for doing their job!
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2009.04.01 16:41:00 - [52] You can rat in providence if you have ratting lisence. You can get those from me 10mil/week. Also CVA is on my KOS list so you'll be pretty save there.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.01 16:45:00 - [53] Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn You can rat in providence if you have ratting lisence. You can get those from me 10mil/week. Also CVA is on my KOS list so you'll be pretty save there. 0/10 --------------------------------------------- Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
Il Morte	Posted - 2009.04.01 16:56:00 - [54] Providenceis about as safe as you can get in 0.0. The locals inhabitants holders will not engage you provided you are not pirating or attacking Blues and neutrals to them. to differentiate yourself from those that are up to no good. Make sure to announce in local when you see another pilot "Freedom for All" and "Death to slavers" this lets them know you are on their side as they are into the roleplaying bit in there. Other than that you should be ok once you realize who the bad guys are in there.
Vidi Angelus Caldari Crystal Dynamics Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.04.02 00:29:00 - [55] Originally by: Il Morte Providenceis about as safe as you can get in 0.0. The locals inhabitants holders will not engage you provided you are not pirating or attacking Blues and neutrals to them. to differentiate yourself from those that are up to no good. Make sure to announce in local when you see another pilot "Freedom for All" and "Death to slavers" this lets them know you are on their side as they are into the roleplaying bit in there. Other than that you should be ok once you realize who the bad guys are in there. For those who arn't in the know, CVA is a RP heavy corporation, and is loyal to the Amaar Empire. You all do the math
Zumlis	Posted - 2009.04.10 08:56:00 - [56] "talked about the exact position of the Sev3rance defence Fleet and their Gatecamp in Localchanel while reds were in system." This does explain everything. Pretty much any NRDS policy includes killing everyone who does that.
small chimp	Posted - 2009.04.10 11:48:00 - [57] These things happen. I remember there was a thread where a similiar newbie like this was raging after his frigate was killed in severance gatecamp. (After he targeted their fleet) In the end the newbie was kicked out from his own alliance.


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