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Ghosthunter	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:04:00 - [1] why does you slows down when you turn it off MWD?? I mean you'r in space... ********************************************************** 2004.08.28 20:06:14combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes Pirate Transport Ship, wrecking for 259.5 damage.
Ghosthunter	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:04:00 - [2] why does you slows down when you turn it off MWD?? I mean you'r in space... ********************************************************** 2004.08.28 20:06:14combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes Pirate Transport Ship, wrecking for 259.5 damage.
ActiveX	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:05:00 - [3] No, you're in Eve. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
ActiveX	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:05:00 - [4] No, you're in Eve. ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:13:00 - [5] cause you need better control engines when your so fast, and thy need cap sorry cant explain it better in english today, im kinda tired Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:13:00 - [6] cause you need better control engines when your so fast, and thy need cap sorry cant explain it better in english today, im kinda tired Wanna fly with me?
Ghosthunter	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:48:00 - [7] Originally by: Nafri cause you need better control engines when your so fast, and thy need cap sorry cant explain it better in english today, im kinda tired in real space there is nothing to stop you, so if you push your self forward you'll continue goint... ********************************************************** 2004.08.28 20:06:14combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes Pirate Transport Ship, wrecking for 259.5 damage.
Ghosthunter	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:48:00 - [8] Originally by: Nafri cause you need better control engines when your so fast, and thy need cap sorry cant explain it better in english today, im kinda tired in real space there is nothing to stop you, so if you push your self forward you'll continue goint... ********************************************************** 2004.08.28 20:06:14combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes Pirate Transport Ship, wrecking for 259.5 damage.
MadGaz	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:59:00 - [9] Edited by: MadGaz on 23/08/2004 19:01:47 Originally by: Ghosthunter Originally by: Nafri cause you need better control engines when your so fast, and thy need cap sorry cant explain it better in english today, im kinda tired in real space there is nothing to stop you, so if you push your self forward you'll continue goint... in real space there is nothing to stop you Say that again, over and over, then ask. Is Eve real? ------------------------------------------
MadGaz	Posted - 2004.08.23 18:59:00 - [10] Edited by: MadGaz on 23/08/2004 19:01:47 Originally by: Ghosthunter Originally by: Nafri cause you need better control engines when your so fast, and thy need cap sorry cant explain it better in english today, im kinda tired in real space there is nothing to stop you, so if you push your self forward you'll continue goint... in real space there is nothing to stop you Say that again, over and over, then ask. Is Eve real? ------------------------------------------
Ghosthunter	Posted - 2004.08.23 19:05:00 - [11] ********************************************************** 2004.08.28 20:06:14combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes Pirate Transport Ship, wrecking for 259.5 damage.
Ghosthunter	Posted - 2004.08.23 19:05:00 - [12] ********************************************************** 2004.08.28 20:06:14combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes Pirate Transport Ship, wrecking for 259.5 damage.
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.08.23 19:55:00 - [13] balance > physics __________ Capacitor research
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.08.23 19:55:00 - [14] balance > physics __________ Capacitor research
Tarakian	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:12:00 - [15] I'm glad that you slow down. If it was realistic we would have to turn our ship around 180 degrees and fire it again to stop..Think about a 50 jump trip doing that..lol
Tarakian	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:12:00 - [16] I'm glad that you slow down. If it was realistic we would have to turn our ship around 180 degrees and fire it again to stop..Think about a 50 jump trip doing that..lol
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:18:00 - [17] because MWDs provide additional power to the engines, instead they create a mini warp bubble around your ship, and the warp bubble is what moves, not the ship. When you turn off the MWD, warp bubble dies, and you go back to moving your ship with MWD again, Micro warp drives are made in such a way though that you can still fire in that mini warp bubble, and manuever. I think its basically that Micro Warp Drives amplify your engines by creating that micro warp bubble. once the bubble goes away, you stop going super fast. Its like, why dont you continue going 3AU/sec when you exit out of warp? Because your ship isnt actually moving I dunno thats the best I can come up with. .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:18:00 - [18] because MWDs provide additional power to the engines, instead they create a mini warp bubble around your ship, and the warp bubble is what moves, not the ship. When you turn off the MWD, warp bubble dies, and you go back to moving your ship with MWD again, Micro warp drives are made in such a way though that you can still fire in that mini warp bubble, and manuever. I think its basically that Micro Warp Drives amplify your engines by creating that micro warp bubble. once the bubble goes away, you stop going super fast. Its like, why dont you continue going 3AU/sec when you exit out of warp? Because your ship isnt actually moving I dunno thats the best I can come up with. .................
Ghosthunter	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:28:00 - [19] hehe, nice ** ******************************************************** 2004.08.28 20:06:14combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes Pirate Transport Ship, wrecking for 259.5 damage.
Ghosthunter	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:28:00 - [20] hehe, nice ** ******************************************************** 2004.08.28 20:06:14combatYour Heavy Ion Blaster I perfectly strikes Pirate Transport Ship, wrecking for 259.5 damage.
Kyroki Tirpellan	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:38:00 - [21] Nice try Cruz, but you missed one part: You also slow down when you turn your afterburners off. Afterburners don't create any warp bubbles do they? For the original poster: In real space, there is no friction. Eve obviously doesn't exist in a friction-less space. Or as some other poster put it, physics<balance. Peace through love, understanding and superior firepower. Real men structure tank!
Kyroki Tirpellan	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:38:00 - [22] Nice try Cruz, but you missed one part: You also slow down when you turn your afterburners off. Afterburners don't create any warp bubbles do they? For the original poster: In real space, there is no friction. Eve obviously doesn't exist in a friction-less space. Or as some other poster put it, physics<balance. Peace through love, understanding and superior firepower. Real men structure tank!
Jemba'k Ko'cha	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:39:00 - [23] pretty much spot on afaik. you are in fact only moving at like 150m/s its just the bubble thats moving at xau a second. as soon as the bubble vanishes, you go back to the speed you were at before the bubble formed. ------------------------------------------- Knowledge is the bomb
Jemba'k Ko'cha	Posted - 2004.08.23 20:39:00 - [24] pretty much spot on afaik. you are in fact only moving at like 150m/s its just the bubble thats moving at xau a second. as soon as the bubble vanishes, you go back to the speed you were at before the bubble formed. ------------------------------------------- Knowledge is the bomb
Marcus Soban	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:22:00 - [25] Ok, so you can talk all day about warp bubbles and all that... but tell me... why do you slow down when you turn your engines off? Why don't you keep accelerating while your engines are on? It's obvious Eve doesn't model physics very accurately. If it did, all the planets and stations would be moving very fast and it would make FTL navigation very interesting... If you wanted an explanation for it... I'd go with this: In order to make space flight easier to deal with, the inertial dampeners on the ship (we'd assume all ships have these, considering the G's they'd otherwise pull) also create a sort of inertial resistance so that the ship behaves as though it was flying through an atmosphere.
Marcus Soban	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:22:00 - [26] Ok, so you can talk all day about warp bubbles and all that... but tell me... why do you slow down when you turn your engines off? Why don't you keep accelerating while your engines are on? It's obvious Eve doesn't model physics very accurately. If it did, all the planets and stations would be moving very fast and it would make FTL navigation very interesting... If you wanted an explanation for it... I'd go with this: In order to make space flight easier to deal with, the inertial dampeners on the ship (we'd assume all ships have these, considering the G's they'd otherwise pull) also create a sort of inertial resistance so that the ship behaves as though it was flying through an atmosphere.
Jemba'k Ko'cha	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:58:00 - [27] Originally by: Marcus Soban Ok, so you can talk all day about warp bubbles and all that... but tell me... why do you slow down when you turn your engines off? Why don't you keep accelerating while your engines are on? It's obvious Eve doesn't model physics very accurately. If it did, all the planets and stations would be moving very fast and it would make FTL navigation very interesting... If you wanted an explanation for it... I'd go with this: In order to make space flight easier to deal with, the inertial dampeners on the ship (we'd assume all ships have these, considering the G's they'd otherwise pull) also create a sort of inertial resistance so that the ship behaves as though it was flying through an atmosphere. as i recall you dont cut your engines in eve, you set the little throttle jobbie to the speed you wanna go at. so yes if you startt moving you should keep going at that speed until you come into contact with another object. but if you dont actualy control your engines, only the speed at which you wish to go (think not of a throttle, but more of a cyclist on a velodrome, no brakes, direct drive from legs to wheels, if you want to slow you have to slow your pedaling, you cant "coast" or turn off your engines as such) then it makes sence. as simply flying doesnt cause you to lose cap its not an issue, if you DID lose cap thru ordinary flying then the question would be raised as to why you cant just stop using cap and coast. but we dont so it doesnt so ner :P ------------------------------------------- Knowledge is the bomb
Jemba'k Ko'cha	Posted - 2004.08.23 23:58:00 - [28] Originally by: Marcus Soban Ok, so you can talk all day about warp bubbles and all that... but tell me... why do you slow down when you turn your engines off? Why don't you keep accelerating while your engines are on? It's obvious Eve doesn't model physics very accurately. If it did, all the planets and stations would be moving very fast and it would make FTL navigation very interesting... If you wanted an explanation for it... I'd go with this: In order to make space flight easier to deal with, the inertial dampeners on the ship (we'd assume all ships have these, considering the G's they'd otherwise pull) also create a sort of inertial resistance so that the ship behaves as though it was flying through an atmosphere. as i recall you dont cut your engines in eve, you set the little throttle jobbie to the speed you wanna go at. so yes if you startt moving you should keep going at that speed until you come into contact with another object. but if you dont actualy control your engines, only the speed at which you wish to go (think not of a throttle, but more of a cyclist on a velodrome, no brakes, direct drive from legs to wheels, if you want to slow you have to slow your pedaling, you cant "coast" or turn off your engines as such) then it makes sence. as simply flying doesnt cause you to lose cap its not an issue, if you DID lose cap thru ordinary flying then the question would be raised as to why you cant just stop using cap and coast. but we dont so it doesnt so ner :P ------------------------------------------- Knowledge is the bomb
Darko1107	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:07:00 - [29] Are u kidding? You want it to be more realistic? So, space has no air,therefore no sound, THATS FUN! Stargates wouldnt be invunrable so a group of BS could just isolate themselves in 0.0 space by killing a load of stargates. Undocking would be impossible at minmatar station, u move out half way through and your ship crashes into the stations and blows up and taking out the station with it. Better hope your not in a BS. If everything actually orbited the sun your bookmarks would end up nowhere rendering them useless seeing as bookmarks dont orbit as well. That means no insta jumps. So you get a BM for a mission, you go to it, and the mission is 12000 KM away. You warp to a station, and by the time you get there its gone. I doubt space has chatrooms so bam theres goes the chat channels, you have to speak to everyone by "hailing" them. So far we have a game where u float around in space as planets fly past not being able to speak to anyone with no sound to hear anything finding it nearly impossible to go anywhere or instajump to anything even if you can somehow find out where it is. GREAT GAME WOOOOOOO! Also, a BS now takes about 6 months to make should be fun!!!!
Darko1107	Posted - 2004.08.24 00:07:00 - [30] Are u kidding? You want it to be more realistic? So, space has no air,therefore no sound, THATS FUN! Stargates wouldnt be invunrable so a group of BS could just isolate themselves in 0.0 space by killing a load of stargates. Undocking would be impossible at minmatar station, u move out half way through and your ship crashes into the stations and blows up and taking out the station with it. Better hope your not in a BS. If everything actually orbited the sun your bookmarks would end up nowhere rendering them useless seeing as bookmarks dont orbit as well. That means no insta jumps. So you get a BM for a mission, you go to it, and the mission is 12000 KM away. You warp to a station, and by the time you get there its gone. I doubt space has chatrooms so bam theres goes the chat channels, you have to speak to everyone by "hailing" them. So far we have a game where u float around in space as planets fly past not being able to speak to anyone with no sound to hear anything finding it nearly impossible to go anywhere or instajump to anything even if you can somehow find out where it is. GREAT GAME WOOOOOOO! Also, a BS now takes about 6 months to make should be fun!!!!
Vacuole	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:04:00 - [31] This has been brought-up many, many times since inception of Eve. In fact, it's been a recurring topic in all sorts of places where this kind of "fantasy physics" take place. People come up with all kinds of reasons why, but I think it all boils down to this: A real physics engine would be cumbersome way beyond purpose and fun.. recall a previous response where a guy said the ship would have to spin around 180 degrees and fire engines 1/2 way through the trip. I think we all know that the physics are contrary to what we know to be real here... but I, for one, like it the way it is.
Vacuole	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:04:00 - [32] This has been brought-up many, many times since inception of Eve. In fact, it's been a recurring topic in all sorts of places where this kind of "fantasy physics" take place. People come up with all kinds of reasons why, but I think it all boils down to this: A real physics engine would be cumbersome way beyond purpose and fun.. recall a previous response where a guy said the ship would have to spin around 180 degrees and fire engines 1/2 way through the trip. I think we all know that the physics are contrary to what we know to be real here... but I, for one, like it the way it is.
Jemba'k Ko'cha	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:58:00 - [33] meeeee too :) leave it as it is ------------------------------------------- Knowledge is the bomb
Jemba'k Ko'cha	Posted - 2004.08.24 03:58:00 - [34] meeeee too :) leave it as it is ------------------------------------------- Knowledge is the bomb
Shenro	Posted - 2004.08.24 08:05:00 - [35] its invisible space junk that slows you down 2005.04.05 19:01:31 combat Your Medium Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Brothel, wrecking for 260.3 damage.
Shenro	Posted - 2004.08.24 08:05:00 - [36] its invisible space junk that slows you down 2005.04.05 19:01:31 combat Your Medium Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Brothel, wrecking for 260.3 damage.
Infi	Posted - 2004.08.24 09:24:00 - [37] The EVE galaxy is actually set in a place where "space" is composed of clear Jell-O. I did my Doctoral Thesis on it at the School of Applied Knowledge. It is a rare anomaly, but not entirely unheard of. There is a galaxy our astronomers have observed that appears to consist of nothing but marshmallows in one form or another.
Infi	Posted - 2004.08.24 09:24:00 - [38] The EVE galaxy is actually set in a place where "space" is composed of clear Jell-O. I did my Doctoral Thesis on it at the School of Applied Knowledge. It is a rare anomaly, but not entirely unheard of. There is a galaxy our astronomers have observed that appears to consist of nothing but marshmallows in one form or another.
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.08.24 11:37:00 - [39] Originally by: Darko1107 So, space has no air,therefore no sound, THATS FUN! Actually EVE space doesn¦t have sound. People are so used to sound and use their hearing so much that it would be silly not to factor that in to the flying somehow. So the sounds although they are not heard are created by the ship for the captain. __________ Capacitor research
Dust Puppy	Posted - 2004.08.24 11:37:00 - [40] Originally by: Darko1107 So, space has no air,therefore no sound, THATS FUN! Actually EVE space doesn¦t have sound. People are so used to sound and use their hearing so much that it would be silly not to factor that in to the flying somehow. So the sounds although they are not heard are created by the ship for the captain. __________ Capacitor research
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.24 11:44:00 - [41] oh, yeh and if eve reflected real physics then you wouldnt be going at 6au/s, or even 3au/s.. because thats way faster than the speed of light, which is the universal speed limit, at which point all matter becomes infintely heavy (etc etc etc). and also, your BS would be able to get faster and faster until it just about reached the speed of light, coz if theres no force acting against your ship your just gonna accelerate forever... rather than happily toddling along at 150m/s 1au = the distance between earth and sun light travels 1au in about 6 mins... so lets assume that you can warp at speed of light... you know those really nice systems where you gotta warp your sorry ar$e frigate with no bloody cap about 100au to the next stargate? well... you would be enjoying a nice long 600 minute journey to the next gate... mmmmm fun fun fun. CASE CLOSED - eve would really really bore the cr@p out of everyone if it was realistic, so oh well Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.24 11:44:00 - [42] oh, yeh and if eve reflected real physics then you wouldnt be going at 6au/s, or even 3au/s.. because thats way faster than the speed of light, which is the universal speed limit, at which point all matter becomes infintely heavy (etc etc etc). and also, your BS would be able to get faster and faster until it just about reached the speed of light, coz if theres no force acting against your ship your just gonna accelerate forever... rather than happily toddling along at 150m/s 1au = the distance between earth and sun light travels 1au in about 6 mins... so lets assume that you can warp at speed of light... you know those really nice systems where you gotta warp your sorry ar$e frigate with no bloody cap about 100au to the next stargate? well... you would be enjoying a nice long 600 minute journey to the next gate... mmmmm fun fun fun. CASE CLOSED - eve would really really bore the cr@p out of everyone if it was realistic, so oh well Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.24 11:47:00 - [43] oh, yeh and the only way around the warp thing would be to use wormholes, but i think it would take more energy than even a BS has to rip a whole in space-time, so lets just not go there before my head explodes and makes a nice smudge on the wall from thinking about too many theoretical scientific concepts in 5 minutes Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.24 11:47:00 - [44] oh, yeh and the only way around the warp thing would be to use wormholes, but i think it would take more energy than even a BS has to rip a whole in space-time, so lets just not go there before my head explodes and makes a nice smudge on the wall from thinking about too many theoretical scientific concepts in 5 minutes Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.24 11:52:00 - [45] sigh and yet another thing i forgot to mention (/me kicks self for making too many posts rather than putting em all in one) you wouldnt need to do a 180 degree turn to stop your ship. you would have maneuvering thrusters on the front and sides of the ship. i mean if you think about it, if you didnt have thrusters on the sides of the ship, you wouldnt even be able to turn at all... that would be reeeaaallly fun and helpful so to stop yourself you just fire up the front thrusters on the ship. ANYWAY i think ive already been far more.. erm.. "geekish" than i meant to and will probably get it ripped out of me but oh well lol Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.24 11:52:00 - [46] sigh and yet another thing i forgot to mention (/me kicks self for making too many posts rather than putting em all in one) you wouldnt need to do a 180 degree turn to stop your ship. you would have maneuvering thrusters on the front and sides of the ship. i mean if you think about it, if you didnt have thrusters on the sides of the ship, you wouldnt even be able to turn at all... that would be reeeaaallly fun and helpful so to stop yourself you just fire up the front thrusters on the ship. ANYWAY i think ive already been far more.. erm.. "geekish" than i meant to and will probably get it ripped out of me but oh well lol Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
Kerosene	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:57:00 - [47] When you are in warp, the universe moves around you.
Kerosene	Posted - 2004.08.25 08:57:00 - [48] When you are in warp, the universe moves around you.
Tarakian	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:01:00 - [49] Edited by: Tarakian on 25/08/2004 10:04:47 You guys are forgetting the original post. We slow down regardless of whether we use mwd OR afterburner. Afterburner wouldn't take you out of the space time continuim, just increase your speed in existing space. In real space you would have to spin around and brake with the engine (Front thrusters wouldnt provide enough thrust to do it). All this is moot because I think if they modeled Eve on real space physics, the game would become extremly tedious :).
Tarakian	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:01:00 - [50] Edited by: Tarakian on 25/08/2004 10:04:47 You guys are forgetting the original post. We slow down regardless of whether we use mwd OR afterburner. Afterburner wouldn't take you out of the space time continuim, just increase your speed in existing space. In real space you would have to spin around and brake with the engine (Front thrusters wouldnt provide enough thrust to do it). All this is moot because I think if they modeled Eve on real space physics, the game would become extremly tedious :).
Darko1107	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:19:00 - [51] Nah dark. Warp works by shrinking the space between you and the destination and lengthening the space behind you, your not actually traveling faster than light but you are getting there faster than light COULD get there. 6au/s is about 2000+ times the speed of light.
Darko1107	Posted - 2004.08.25 11:19:00 - [52] Nah dark. Warp works by shrinking the space between you and the destination and lengthening the space behind you, your not actually traveling faster than light but you are getting there faster than light COULD get there. 6au/s is about 2000+ times the speed of light.
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.26 03:03:00 - [53] Edited by: Dark Eagle on 26/08/2004 03:09:32 Edited by: Dark Eagle on 26/08/2004 03:05:21 ahhh ok drako... lol its kinda hard to say (unless your teh l33t physisist) just how it would work in reality, but ive heard that sort of idea of "shrinking space infront of you, and strechting it behind you" before. nice one. As for the afterburners, yes i agree, all that is doing is using thrusters to provide a boost to the main engines... and infact not only should you not slow down afterwards, but you should keep accelerating indefinately when you turn em on. but for gameplay that would just now work and be abit stupid I mean if you made it all realistic, then when you were at stations nearby a planet, you would start floating faster and faster towards the planet, and that would just be annoying lol... and when you warped to the sun... well unless in the future they have UBER heat protection plating then you can say bye bye to that nice ship of yours, and your pod would fry quite nicely too... mmmm.... hard-boiled eggs (if a smartbomb doing thermal damage can hit your ship for whatever it is, lets say 300 damage, and the sun doesnt do anything to your ship when your sitting so close to it, that would mean your smartbomb is more powerful by far than a star ) And in response to the post about "the universe moves around you" i should very much doubt that would work... as it just isnt realistic to gather up the *VAST* amount of energy it would require to move the entire mass of the universe around your ship... and my old argument applies that if you did that (move the universe), you would be moving objects at far greater than the speed of light, making it impossible... and stretching and contracting the space behind and infront of every object, atom, peice of matter or antimatter or whatever in the universe all at once would be just too rediculous to even consider - not to mention BLOODY CONFUSING Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.26 03:03:00 - [54] Edited by: Dark Eagle on 26/08/2004 03:09:32 Edited by: Dark Eagle on 26/08/2004 03:05:21 ahhh ok drako... lol its kinda hard to say (unless your teh l33t physisist) just how it would work in reality, but ive heard that sort of idea of "shrinking space infront of you, and strechting it behind you" before. nice one. As for the afterburners, yes i agree, all that is doing is using thrusters to provide a boost to the main engines... and infact not only should you not slow down afterwards, but you should keep accelerating indefinately when you turn em on. but for gameplay that would just now work and be abit stupid I mean if you made it all realistic, then when you were at stations nearby a planet, you would start floating faster and faster towards the planet, and that would just be annoying lol... and when you warped to the sun... well unless in the future they have UBER heat protection plating then you can say bye bye to that nice ship of yours, and your pod would fry quite nicely too... mmmm.... hard-boiled eggs (if a smartbomb doing thermal damage can hit your ship for whatever it is, lets say 300 damage, and the sun doesnt do anything to your ship when your sitting so close to it, that would mean your smartbomb is more powerful by far than a star ) And in response to the post about "the universe moves around you" i should very much doubt that would work... as it just isnt realistic to gather up the *VAST* amount of energy it would require to move the entire mass of the universe around your ship... and my old argument applies that if you did that (move the universe), you would be moving objects at far greater than the speed of light, making it impossible... and stretching and contracting the space behind and infront of every object, atom, peice of matter or antimatter or whatever in the universe all at once would be just too rediculous to even consider - not to mention BLOODY CONFUSING Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
ActiveX	Posted - 2004.08.26 05:31:00 - [55] Originally by: Dark Eagle oh, yeh and if eve reflected real physics then you wouldnt be going at 6au/s, or even 3au/s.. because thats way faster than the speed of light, which is the universal speed limit, at which point all matter becomes infintely heavy (etc etc etc). and also, your BS would be able to get faster and faster until it just about reached the speed of light, coz if theres no force acting against your ship your just gonna accelerate forever... rather than happily toddling along at 150m/s 1au = the distance between earth and sun light travels 1au in about 6 mins... so lets assume that you can warp at speed of light... you know those really nice systems where you gotta warp your sorry ar$e frigate with no bloody cap about 100au to the next stargate? well... you would be enjoying a nice long 600 minute journey to the next gate... mmmmm fun fun fun. CASE CLOSED - eve would really really bore the cr@p out of everyone if it was realistic, so oh well Lightspeed is about 7.2 au/h. Would take about 22 hours to warp across Teonusude's longest jump (164 Au). ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
ActiveX	Posted - 2004.08.26 05:31:00 - [56] Originally by: Dark Eagle oh, yeh and if eve reflected real physics then you wouldnt be going at 6au/s, or even 3au/s.. because thats way faster than the speed of light, which is the universal speed limit, at which point all matter becomes infintely heavy (etc etc etc). and also, your BS would be able to get faster and faster until it just about reached the speed of light, coz if theres no force acting against your ship your just gonna accelerate forever... rather than happily toddling along at 150m/s 1au = the distance between earth and sun light travels 1au in about 6 mins... so lets assume that you can warp at speed of light... you know those really nice systems where you gotta warp your sorry ar$e frigate with no bloody cap about 100au to the next stargate? well... you would be enjoying a nice long 600 minute journey to the next gate... mmmmm fun fun fun. CASE CLOSED - eve would really really bore the cr@p out of everyone if it was realistic, so oh well Lightspeed is about 7.2 au/h. Would take about 22 hours to warp across Teonusude's longest jump (164 Au). ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.27 00:56:00 - [57] hehe... mmm... yeh that might just put people off abit Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.27 00:56:00 - [58] hehe... mmm... yeh that might just put people off abit Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
ActiveX	Posted - 2004.08.27 07:29:00 - [59] I just dont see why we have to use Jumpgates... ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
ActiveX	Posted - 2004.08.27 07:29:00 - [60] I just dont see why we have to use Jumpgates... ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.28 05:25:00 - [61] hehe.. good point... would be damn easy to get lost tho Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)
Dark Eagle	Posted - 2004.08.28 05:25:00 - [62] hehe.. good point... would be damn easy to get lost tho Piracy shall never die. Do not use the 'm-word' in my presence, or i may be forced to reprogram your harvestors to releive you of your limbs. Yarrr >=)

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