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MrRookie	Posted - 2004.10.12 20:39:00 - [331] Originally by: Balthial Ashaere MrRookie, Interesting setup, but it's already been shown that at a cruiser level, hardeners are really much worse than Armor Plating and Energized Membranes that are both passive modules. It seems like you will have cap problems with only a single recharger on there, especially if you are using items which use more cap. That extra 40 energy per cycle is a killer when you're trying to keep everything running at once, and since you don't have all your bases covered (no explosive), you're going to have to run from missiles. If it's somehow working for you, great, but when I tested out hardeners with small repairers, I almost got my butt handed to me by two Arch-Angel Centurions. Ahh I just had to reply You are right but I only used the setup for lvl 3 missions and with the armor plating and the hardners I could take so much of a beating a actualy rarely used the repairer. the 3.4 k armor with the good damage was good enough to keep me alive to I finished the missions. And I cant outrun missiles but noonw with small blaster can I think. If you gonna orbit that close. Would be interesting to try out some of the other setups here like the nos setups I`ve seen btw :) _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877
MrRookie	Posted - 2004.10.12 20:39:00 - [332] Originally by: Balthial Ashaere MrRookie, Interesting setup, but it's already been shown that at a cruiser level, hardeners are really much worse than Armor Plating and Energized Membranes that are both passive modules. It seems like you will have cap problems with only a single recharger on there, especially if you are using items which use more cap. That extra 40 energy per cycle is a killer when you're trying to keep everything running at once, and since you don't have all your bases covered (no explosive), you're going to have to run from missiles. If it's somehow working for you, great, but when I tested out hardeners with small repairers, I almost got my butt handed to me by two Arch-Angel Centurions. Ahh I just had to reply You are right but I only used the setup for lvl 3 missions and with the armor plating and the hardners I could take so much of a beating a actualy rarely used the repairer. the 3.4 k armor with the good damage was good enough to keep me alive to I finished the missions. And I cant outrun missiles but noonw with small blaster can I think. If you gonna orbit that close. Would be interesting to try out some of the other setups here like the nos setups I`ve seen btw :) _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2004.10.13 00:23:00 - [333] I don't orbit I ram Just be sure to set approach after you set the mwd or you may go flying past.. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2004.10.13 00:23:00 - [334] I don't orbit I ram Just be sure to set approach after you set the mwd or you may go flying past.. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Vardofire	Posted - 2004.10.13 02:21:00 - [335] Originally by: Phoenix Fyre anyone ever used two mwd's to get up close and personal in a big damn hurry? Bad idea, since your max cap will be so screwed that youll end up with not enough cap to run one cycle of repairer after the dual MWD boost. Thing is with a blasterax, dont charge in unless your enemy is within 30km or youll eat a crapload of missiles/lasers/hybs/proj on your way (yes even proj will be able to hit you, which is bad...) So if you see this one guy at 60km and you wanna attack him well guess what... WARP CLOSER! Oh and thats forgetting the fact that closing in at 5kms on your enemy will probably send you flying way beyond him like so: (you)---------------------(foe)---(you after single MWD) (you)---------------------(foe)------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------(you after dual MWD) And then youll have to MWD back to him and youll end up going way past him again, repeat. ----------------------------------------------- "Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way." -General George Patton Jr
Vardofire	Posted - 2004.10.13 02:21:00 - [336] Originally by: Phoenix Fyre anyone ever used two mwd's to get up close and personal in a big damn hurry? Bad idea, since your max cap will be so screwed that youll end up with not enough cap to run one cycle of repairer after the dual MWD boost. Thing is with a blasterax, dont charge in unless your enemy is within 30km or youll eat a crapload of missiles/lasers/hybs/proj on your way (yes even proj will be able to hit you, which is bad...) So if you see this one guy at 60km and you wanna attack him well guess what... WARP CLOSER! Oh and thats forgetting the fact that closing in at 5kms on your enemy will probably send you flying way beyond him like so: (you)---------------------(foe)---(you after single MWD) (you)---------------------(foe)------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------(you after dual MWD) And then youll have to MWD back to him and youll end up going way past him again, repeat. ----------------------------------------------- "Lead me, follow me, or get out of my way." -General George Patton Jr
flyertuck	Posted - 2004.10.13 11:50:00 - [337] have balls dude, balls of steel. dual mwd straght in his face, he will be dead in less than 20 seconds, remember you can take a bit of a beating cuase youve got the 1600 plate on,
flyertuck	Posted - 2004.10.13 11:50:00 - [338] have balls dude, balls of steel. dual mwd straght in his face, he will be dead in less than 20 seconds, remember you can take a bit of a beating cuase youve got the 1600 plate on,
Phoenix Fyre	Posted - 2004.10.13 16:16:00 - [339] might have to give it try... maybe it's a question of warpinng in at 20 or 30 that way you can just cover the distance right... have to find out how far a dual mwd will take you and how many times to use it. maybe start with the dual, then after the first boost, only run 1... might work... i'll try it ______________________________________________________________________ What can I say i like to get friendly... I'm a Blasterax Pilot!!!
Phoenix Fyre	Posted - 2004.10.13 16:16:00 - [340] might have to give it try... maybe it's a question of warpinng in at 20 or 30 that way you can just cover the distance right... have to find out how far a dual mwd will take you and how many times to use it. maybe start with the dual, then after the first boost, only run 1... might work... i'll try it ______________________________________________________________________ What can I say i like to get friendly... I'm a Blasterax Pilot!!!
Buggeh	Posted - 2004.10.15 00:13:00 - [341] shameless bump. --- Dutch semi-carebear all-round character with lvl5 bad luck.
Buggeh	Posted - 2004.10.15 00:13:00 - [342] shameless bump. --- Dutch semi-carebear all-round character with lvl5 bad luck.
Balthial Ashaere	Posted - 2004.10.15 06:58:00 - [343] I'll post some proper responses to where I left off on Saturday, as my schedule permits. For now, I'm open to suggestion as to the next ship to cover. I was going to automatically head into Megathron layouts since I've finished training for it and bought one already, and done a fair amount of testing in 0.0 space with it so far, but I could take a week out to train for the Taranis and do some testing on that one. My results in this entire thread are also Pre-Shiva, so if things change much, I may reopen my testing and post updated Post-Shiva results either in this thread, or in a Part II thread. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convergent Corporation - Infinite Opportunities; One Future!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convergent Mining Division - Refining The Foundation Of The Future!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Balthial Ashaere	Posted - 2004.10.15 06:58:00 - [344] I'll post some proper responses to where I left off on Saturday, as my schedule permits. For now, I'm open to suggestion as to the next ship to cover. I was going to automatically head into Megathron layouts since I've finished training for it and bought one already, and done a fair amount of testing in 0.0 space with it so far, but I could take a week out to train for the Taranis and do some testing on that one. My results in this entire thread are also Pre-Shiva, so if things change much, I may reopen my testing and post updated Post-Shiva results either in this thread, or in a Part II thread. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convergent Corporation - Infinite Opportunities; One Future!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Convergent Mining Division - Refining The Foundation Of The Future!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steppa	Posted - 2004.10.21 04:47:00 - [345] I am a converted B-Rax pilot. Formerly, I swore by the 250mm Protos I used and sniped the hell out of level III agent missions. Just takes forever to clean up all those spread out cans. I am currently loaded out with 5 Tech II light neutrons Tech I 10mn MWD + Named Webber + Small Shield Booster (to charge up between fights) 1600mm Rolled Tungsten + I-B Medium Armor Repairer + Energized Adaptive + 2 warb stabs (.2 space), 2 overdrives (.5 and above) My gunnery skills are pretty decent so even with antimatter, I can still be in the optimum out to nearly 1000m. However, I'm finding that I'm having a lot of trouble closing at non-MWD speeds. If they are trying to maintain distance from me, it takes a while. My top speed with this setup is around 190. My nav is level IV. I thought about mounting two 1mn MWD and setting them to autorepeat or a couple of 10mn afterthrusters... Anyone have any ideas?
Steppa	Posted - 2004.10.21 04:47:00 - [346] I am a converted B-Rax pilot. Formerly, I swore by the 250mm Protos I used and sniped the hell out of level III agent missions. Just takes forever to clean up all those spread out cans. I am currently loaded out with 5 Tech II light neutrons Tech I 10mn MWD + Named Webber + Small Shield Booster (to charge up between fights) 1600mm Rolled Tungsten + I-B Medium Armor Repairer + Energized Adaptive + 2 warb stabs (.2 space), 2 overdrives (.5 and above) My gunnery skills are pretty decent so even with antimatter, I can still be in the optimum out to nearly 1000m. However, I'm finding that I'm having a lot of trouble closing at non-MWD speeds. If they are trying to maintain distance from me, it takes a while. My top speed with this setup is around 190. My nav is level IV. I thought about mounting two 1mn MWD and setting them to autorepeat or a couple of 10mn afterthrusters... Anyone have any ideas?
Damocles Ician	Posted - 2004.10.21 08:15:00 - [347] Dual MWD's won't work in Shiva apparently. I run one 10mn MWD, and warp in at 15km. One burst from the MWD gets me within range. I recommend you drop the shield booster for a cap recharger. Also, perhaps you need Acceleration Control trained up a bit? I also tend to use tungsten or lead ... just because my agent rewarded me with about 70,000 shots. It works fine! -------------
Damocles Ician	Posted - 2004.10.21 08:15:00 - [348] Dual MWD's won't work in Shiva apparently. I run one 10mn MWD, and warp in at 15km. One burst from the MWD gets me within range. I recommend you drop the shield booster for a cap recharger. Also, perhaps you need Acceleration Control trained up a bit? I also tend to use tungsten or lead ... just because my agent rewarded me with about 70,000 shots. It works fine! -------------
Simen Looswe	Posted - 2004.10.21 11:05:00 - [349] Great thread! I'd like to make a point though. I've been trying a pvp-cruiser setup myself. Objectives: 1. be able to approach target(cruiser/BS) quickly 2. stay alive 3. web/warpscramble 4. stay alive 5. dish out dmg if possible. I tried the 1600mm approach, adaptive nano 2's, nosferatu's etc... I bought every damn tier 3 cruiser,and i found out that TORPEDO's are a major pain in the ass. When orbitting with mwd, i could smartbomb them (2 blasts from medium smartbomb, or 3+ from small...). Without mwd, the torps would catch up too fast. in other words, the only way to tackle a raven with a thorax or a maller (no defenders) would be to stay ahead of the torps long enough to blow them up with smartbombs. No 1600mm armor plate will save you once those torps start hitting. 2 volley's and it's game over. However staying ahead requires constant mwd-ing, and your ship is seriously gimped if you have to fit a medium smartbomb, let alone the total nuking of your cap... 6/8 of all the BS have missile slots so expect to be torped... So for overall tackling scratch missile-less cruisers... The thorax setups i've seen in this thread are all truely awesome (for fighting frigs or other cruisers..) and i woulndt want to meet one alone in a dark alley..... If anybody has any solutions to the torp problem, i very much like to hear them!!
Simen Looswe	Posted - 2004.10.21 11:05:00 - [350] Great thread! I'd like to make a point though. I've been trying a pvp-cruiser setup myself. Objectives: 1. be able to approach target(cruiser/BS) quickly 2. stay alive 3. web/warpscramble 4. stay alive 5. dish out dmg if possible. I tried the 1600mm approach, adaptive nano 2's, nosferatu's etc... I bought every damn tier 3 cruiser,and i found out that TORPEDO's are a major pain in the ass. When orbitting with mwd, i could smartbomb them (2 blasts from medium smartbomb, or 3+ from small...). Without mwd, the torps would catch up too fast. in other words, the only way to tackle a raven with a thorax or a maller (no defenders) would be to stay ahead of the torps long enough to blow them up with smartbombs. No 1600mm armor plate will save you once those torps start hitting. 2 volley's and it's game over. However staying ahead requires constant mwd-ing, and your ship is seriously gimped if you have to fit a medium smartbomb, let alone the total nuking of your cap... 6/8 of all the BS have missile slots so expect to be torped... So for overall tackling scratch missile-less cruisers... The thorax setups i've seen in this thread are all truely awesome (for fighting frigs or other cruisers..) and i woulndt want to meet one alone in a dark alley..... If anybody has any solutions to the torp problem, i very much like to hear them!!
Madog Bran	Posted - 2004.10.24 22:58:00 - [351] ~If anybody has any solutions to the torp problem, i very much like to hear them!!~ Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the heavy assault cruiser, the Deimos, have a turret slot? Not looked into any stats as I'm far from operating one but I would think you could adapt the loadouts here and add a rocket/assault launcher with defenders? Not much of an answer I know but the best I could think of as I fall asleep
Madog Bran	Posted - 2004.10.24 22:58:00 - [352] ~If anybody has any solutions to the torp problem, i very much like to hear them!!~ Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the heavy assault cruiser, the Deimos, have a turret slot? Not looked into any stats as I'm far from operating one but I would think you could adapt the loadouts here and add a rocket/assault launcher with defenders? Not much of an answer I know but the best I could think of as I fall asleep
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2004.10.25 15:52:00 - [353] Come on guys, this blasterax is not a pvp setup. No player is going to let you maintain such proper distance. And with these small guns you require it. Your cruiser does not have the agility to maintain that distance either. If you insist on using this, you need to put in some long range ammo because you will be bouncing in and out of anti-matter range continuously. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2004.10.25 15:52:00 - [354] Come on guys, this blasterax is not a pvp setup. No player is going to let you maintain such proper distance. And with these small guns you require it. Your cruiser does not have the agility to maintain that distance either. If you insist on using this, you need to put in some long range ammo because you will be bouncing in and out of anti-matter range continuously. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
thoth rothschild	Posted - 2004.10.26 23:03:00 - [355] Edited by: thoth rothschild on 26/10/2004 23:12:03 This is a PvP setup ^^ ....but no solo! U need 1 Scorpion + 1 Thorax. Get into 0.0 space and wait at a gate ;) For this working u also need warp scrambler and a webber. Cruise missiles will be no problem if enemy is jammed by the scorpion. The damage done by 5 * modal light neutron + 8 wasp drones is high enougth to get most ships killed.I do use lead charges + true sansha tracking enhancer :> Should provide u with optimal range of 2.4 km and hitting still at 5 km. Btw.: Scorp needs 2 Nosferatu + 5 multispektral ;) If u are still not satisfied with the damage get an enyo.... range * 1.5 ,damage also * 1.25 and with defenders against torps.
thoth rothschild	Posted - 2004.10.26 23:03:00 - [356] Edited by: thoth rothschild on 26/10/2004 23:12:03 This is a PvP setup ^^ ....but no solo! U need 1 Scorpion + 1 Thorax. Get into 0.0 space and wait at a gate ;) For this working u also need warp scrambler and a webber. Cruise missiles will be no problem if enemy is jammed by the scorpion. The damage done by 5 * modal light neutron + 8 wasp drones is high enougth to get most ships killed.I do use lead charges + true sansha tracking enhancer :> Should provide u with optimal range of 2.4 km and hitting still at 5 km. Btw.: Scorp needs 2 Nosferatu + 5 multispektral ;) If u are still not satisfied with the damage get an enyo.... range * 1.5 ,damage also * 1.25 and with defenders against torps.
Steppa	Posted - 2004.10.28 04:36:00 - [357] One on one, I'm 2 for 2 PVP with my blasterax. AND...both PC pirate idiots that tried to jump me (Hatepants and Istasi) were in Thorax's. The first had something close to a blasterax setup, but the second was very poorly equipped in general and tried to take me on with market-type 150mm rails. And this was while .2 belt NPC rats were pounding on me as well. Both gots blowed up reeeal nicely.
Steppa	Posted - 2004.10.28 04:36:00 - [358] One on one, I'm 2 for 2 PVP with my blasterax. AND...both PC pirate idiots that tried to jump me (Hatepants and Istasi) were in Thorax's. The first had something close to a blasterax setup, but the second was very poorly equipped in general and tried to take me on with market-type 150mm rails. And this was while .2 belt NPC rats were pounding on me as well. Both gots blowed up reeeal nicely.
Vincent Clarke	Posted - 2004.11.06 00:48:00 - [359] I perfer this (doesnt use blasters) h) x5 dual 150mm rails m)med cap battery m) x2 cap rechargers l)med armour rep l)800mm steel plates l) x2 passive armour hardeners l)Damage mod (rcu or cpu depending on skills can be used)
Vincent Clarke	Posted - 2004.11.06 00:48:00 - [360] I perfer this (doesnt use blasters) h) x5 dual 150mm rails m)med cap battery m) x2 cap rechargers l)med armour rep l)800mm steel plates l) x2 passive armour hardeners l)Damage mod (rcu or cpu depending on skills can be used)

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