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Alexi Borizkova	Posted - 2004.11.06 01:11:00 - [361] I have found that since the ship has no benefits for frigate weapons(which I think should be altered), I have started using frigate beams on my 'Rax, and have met wit hgreat success, with a higher range than the blasters, and almsot as much damage. being able to swap back and forth between a high dmaage 5km weapon and a 25km weapon in the field is a definite advantage. However, I just use it for NPC hunting, and rely on my ogres for most of my offensive potential.
Alexi Borizkova	Posted - 2004.11.06 01:11:00 - [362] I have found that since the ship has no benefits for frigate weapons(which I think should be altered), I have started using frigate beams on my 'Rax, and have met wit hgreat success, with a higher range than the blasters, and almsot as much damage. being able to swap back and forth between a high dmaage 5km weapon and a 25km weapon in the field is a definite advantage. However, I just use it for NPC hunting, and rely on my ogres for most of my offensive potential.
Captain Holmes	Posted - 2004.11.09 06:32:00 - [363] Yes ive been thinking of using small medium pulses on my rax... also instead of ogres's i was thinking of using berzerkers because of explosive damage... best against armor ;p
Captain Holmes	Posted - 2004.11.09 06:32:00 - [364] Yes ive been thinking of using small medium pulses on my rax... also instead of ogres's i was thinking of using berzerkers because of explosive damage... best against armor ;p
Directive	Posted - 2004.11.09 08:54:00 - [365] Don't bother with Berserkers, atleast if you're fighting Serpentis. The higher end cruisers in missions atleast have 60% explosive resistance. Small medium pulses eat a lot of cap too, more than Thorax can handle atleast without Controlled Bursts 5, Energy Systems Op. 5, Energy Management 5 and Gallente Cruiser 5...
Directive	Posted - 2004.11.09 08:54:00 - [366] Don't bother with Berserkers, atleast if you're fighting Serpentis. The higher end cruisers in missions atleast have 60% explosive resistance. Small medium pulses eat a lot of cap too, more than Thorax can handle atleast without Controlled Bursts 5, Energy Systems Op. 5, Energy Management 5 and Gallente Cruiser 5...
Captain Holmes	Posted - 2004.11.09 09:11:00 - [367] really?... thats really depressing about the lasers... i wouldn't think the cap would be that bad... oh well
Captain Holmes	Posted - 2004.11.09 09:11:00 - [368] really?... thats really depressing about the lasers... i wouldn't think the cap would be that bad... oh well
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2004.11.09 12:40:00 - [369] getting my rax tonite. Wanted a serious damage dealing cruiser for PVP. Have used my BB with some success but it reallys solely on being able to jam the enemy. Thought id give the rax a try as i have good gunnery and drone skillz. My setup so far is gonna be: 5x tech2 light neuts 1xYT-8 MWD (hoping the extra speed will make up for the 1600 plate) 1xWebby 1xScrambler 1xCPR 1x1600 rolled tungsten 2xFaction energised adaptive nanos (the 20% to all resist ones) 1xtech2 medium reper By my calculations it should all fit. My cap skillz are pretty good too (lvl4 ops and management) i just dont know how well my cap is gonna hold up. Its one of the reason why im gonna use the 20% hardners, try and reserve some cap. Ill give it a test tonite against my mates raven and let u know how it goes Forums: Sharks - MC
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2004.11.09 12:40:00 - [370] getting my rax tonite. Wanted a serious damage dealing cruiser for PVP. Have used my BB with some success but it reallys solely on being able to jam the enemy. Thought id give the rax a try as i have good gunnery and drone skillz. My setup so far is gonna be: 5x tech2 light neuts 1xYT-8 MWD (hoping the extra speed will make up for the 1600 plate) 1xWebby 1xScrambler 1xCPR 1x1600 rolled tungsten 2xFaction energised adaptive nanos (the 20% to all resist ones) 1xtech2 medium reper By my calculations it should all fit. My cap skillz are pretty good too (lvl4 ops and management) i just dont know how well my cap is gonna hold up. Its one of the reason why im gonna use the 20% hardners, try and reserve some cap. Ill give it a test tonite against my mates raven and let u know how it goes Forums: Sharks - MC
Odda	Posted - 2004.11.17 20:59:00 - [371] Thx m8. this is the best thorax setup i tried :) it works wrealy good. Even do i cant use heavy drones. i manngaed to take down a cuple of 40k rats :) my first ones!
Odda	Posted - 2004.11.17 20:59:00 - [372] Thx m8. this is the best thorax setup i tried :) it works wrealy good. Even do i cant use heavy drones. i manngaed to take down a cuple of 40k rats :) my first ones!
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2004.11.17 23:42:00 - [373] Originally by: Eyeshadow getting my rax tonite. Wanted a serious damage dealing cruiser for PVP. Have used my BB with some success but it reallys solely on being able to jam the enemy. Thought id give the rax a try as i have good gunnery and drone skillz. My setup so far is gonna be: 5x tech2 light neuts 1xYT-8 MWD (hoping the extra speed will make up for the 1600 plate) 1xWebby 1xScrambler 1xCPR 1x1600 rolled tungsten 2xFaction energised adaptive nanos (the 20% to all resist ones) 1xtech2 medium reper By my calculations it should all fit. My cap skillz are pretty good too (lvl4 ops and management) i just dont know how well my cap is gonna hold up. Its one of the reason why im gonna use the 20% hardners, try and reserve some cap. Ill give it a test tonite against my mates raven and let u know how it goes Thorax with Engineering 5: 875 Powergrid 5 x Tech II Neutrons: 5 x 13 = 65 grid YT-8 MWD 150 grid Webber: 1 grid Scrambler: 1 grid 1600mm Tungsten: 500 grid Tech II repairer: 175 grid 2 x Adaptive Nano: 2 x 2 = 4 grid Total: 896 powergrid. Not gonna fit. The bad thing is, even if you use the modal or limited neutrons, which for some reason only require 10 powergrid to fit, you're still 6 powergrid short. Replace the two energized for activated hardners and you're looking at 879 powergrid required. Solution? Use a named Medium Repairer, or do what others do, put a power diag somewhere in your lowslots. Helps a bit with the cap too. ------------------------------------------------------- "Do you really think that's air you're breathing?"
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2004.11.17 23:42:00 - [374] Originally by: Eyeshadow getting my rax tonite. Wanted a serious damage dealing cruiser for PVP. Have used my BB with some success but it reallys solely on being able to jam the enemy. Thought id give the rax a try as i have good gunnery and drone skillz. My setup so far is gonna be: 5x tech2 light neuts 1xYT-8 MWD (hoping the extra speed will make up for the 1600 plate) 1xWebby 1xScrambler 1xCPR 1x1600 rolled tungsten 2xFaction energised adaptive nanos (the 20% to all resist ones) 1xtech2 medium reper By my calculations it should all fit. My cap skillz are pretty good too (lvl4 ops and management) i just dont know how well my cap is gonna hold up. Its one of the reason why im gonna use the 20% hardners, try and reserve some cap. Ill give it a test tonite against my mates raven and let u know how it goes Thorax with Engineering 5: 875 Powergrid 5 x Tech II Neutrons: 5 x 13 = 65 grid YT-8 MWD 150 grid Webber: 1 grid Scrambler: 1 grid 1600mm Tungsten: 500 grid Tech II repairer: 175 grid 2 x Adaptive Nano: 2 x 2 = 4 grid Total: 896 powergrid. Not gonna fit. The bad thing is, even if you use the modal or limited neutrons, which for some reason only require 10 powergrid to fit, you're still 6 powergrid short. Replace the two energized for activated hardners and you're looking at 879 powergrid required. Solution? Use a named Medium Repairer, or do what others do, put a power diag somewhere in your lowslots. Helps a bit with the cap too. ------------------------------------------------------- "Do you really think that's air you're breathing?"
MatStar	Posted - 2004.11.21 02:07:00 - [375] my Rax setup 5 x T2 Light Neutrons w/ antimatter 1 x Y-TB 10MN MWD 1 x -90% Webby 1 x f-b10 Cap Charger 1 x Medium Acco Rep 1 x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten 1 x T2 Mag Stab 1 x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1 x Cap Relay 8 x Wasps Absolutely pawns anything in 0.1+ systems, missions are no problem at all only the mordus mission I dust off the caracal for coz of the webifying frigates. Best part I use this setup for PvP swapping out the T2 Mag Stab for another Membrane and swap the cap charger for a scrambler. Had 3 cruisers (2 x BB, 1 x Moa) pounding me for 5mins till i could i jump out, I was webbed/scrambled/jammed and nos'd to hell and they still didnt get me
MatStar	Posted - 2004.11.21 02:07:00 - [376] my Rax setup 5 x T2 Light Neutrons w/ antimatter 1 x Y-TB 10MN MWD 1 x -90% Webby 1 x f-b10 Cap Charger 1 x Medium Acco Rep 1 x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten 1 x T2 Mag Stab 1 x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 1 x Cap Relay 8 x Wasps Absolutely pawns anything in 0.1+ systems, missions are no problem at all only the mordus mission I dust off the caracal for coz of the webifying frigates. Best part I use this setup for PvP swapping out the T2 Mag Stab for another Membrane and swap the cap charger for a scrambler. Had 3 cruisers (2 x BB, 1 x Moa) pounding me for 5mins till i could i jump out, I was webbed/scrambled/jammed and nos'd to hell and they still didnt get me
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:46:00 - [377] wat bout a blaster setup for a mega... 7x heavy ion/electron/neutron ? 1x heavy/cruise/rocket with defenders? 1x Web 1x MWD 2x heavy booasters / 1cap recharger / 1booaster 2x LArge Rep 2x Hardeners 3x cap relays/pdus This is for npc killing :)
Sollytear	Posted - 2004.11.21 09:46:00 - [378] wat bout a blaster setup for a mega... 7x heavy ion/electron/neutron ? 1x heavy/cruise/rocket with defenders? 1x Web 1x MWD 2x heavy booasters / 1cap recharger / 1booaster 2x LArge Rep 2x Hardeners 3x cap relays/pdus This is for npc killing :)
karate taco	Posted - 2004.11.28 14:23:00 - [379] Edited by: karate taco on 28/11/2004 14:26:18 Need som help with my blastarax if you don't mind helping me out? =) I have this in my setup atm 4x Light Neutron Blasters 1x MWD 1x Webifier 1x Med Cap Battery 1x Hardener 1x Medium Armor Repairer I 1x Capacitor Power Relay 1x Reactor Control Unit 1x 1600mm plate I'm research Engineering lv5 atm and when it's done I'll be able to get another blaster and a tech II armor repairer instead. In my drone bay I have 8 heavy drones that do the most of the killing really. The problem is that I die every now and then when I hit several 100k pirates that webify and warp scramble me. Can you think of any way that I can make my setup more effective against tougher pirates? It seems as if I can take down 45k-50k pirates with ease, but the next step up from those at 100k is near impossible and I have to warp out several times (as long as I'm not warp scrambled).
karate taco	Posted - 2004.11.28 14:23:00 - [380] Edited by: karate taco on 28/11/2004 14:26:18 Need som help with my blastarax if you don't mind helping me out? =) I have this in my setup atm 4x Light Neutron Blasters 1x MWD 1x Webifier 1x Med Cap Battery 1x Hardener 1x Medium Armor Repairer I 1x Capacitor Power Relay 1x Reactor Control Unit 1x 1600mm plate I'm research Engineering lv5 atm and when it's done I'll be able to get another blaster and a tech II armor repairer instead. In my drone bay I have 8 heavy drones that do the most of the killing really. The problem is that I die every now and then when I hit several 100k pirates that webify and warp scramble me. Can you think of any way that I can make my setup more effective against tougher pirates? It seems as if I can take down 45k-50k pirates with ease, but the next step up from those at 100k is near impossible and I have to warp out several times (as long as I'm not warp scrambled).
Kin Oreyn	Posted - 2004.11.28 17:12:00 - [381] Originally by: karate taco Edited by: karate taco on 28/11/2004 14:26:18 Need som help with my blastarax if you don't mind helping me out? =) I have this in my setup atm 4x Light Neutron Blasters 1x MWD 1x Webifier 1x Med Cap Battery 1x Hardener 1x Medium Armor Repairer I 1x Capacitor Power Relay 1x Reactor Control Unit 1x 1600mm plate I'm research Engineering lv5 atm and when it's done I'll be able to get another blaster and a tech II armor repairer instead. In my drone bay I have 8 heavy drones that do the most of the killing really. The problem is that I die every now and then when I hit several 100k pirates that webify and warp scramble me. Can you think of any way that I can make my setup more effective against tougher pirates? It seems as if I can take down 45k-50k pirates with ease, but the next step up from those at 100k is near impossible and I have to warp out several times (as long as I'm not warp scrambled). although I find it hard to believe you couldn't find any help in the last 10 pages, I'll give you a little advice. fit another weapon (doesn't matter what), lose the cap battery and use a cap recharger (named if possible) that will save some grid, and you may be able to change that RCU to another hardener or cap relay or whatever. Make sure you are using the hardeners specific to the npcs you are fighting and you should be alright, if you don't know what they use check out the object explorer at www.eve-i.com
Kin Oreyn	Posted - 2004.11.28 17:12:00 - [382] Originally by: karate taco Edited by: karate taco on 28/11/2004 14:26:18 Need som help with my blastarax if you don't mind helping me out? =) I have this in my setup atm 4x Light Neutron Blasters 1x MWD 1x Webifier 1x Med Cap Battery 1x Hardener 1x Medium Armor Repairer I 1x Capacitor Power Relay 1x Reactor Control Unit 1x 1600mm plate I'm research Engineering lv5 atm and when it's done I'll be able to get another blaster and a tech II armor repairer instead. In my drone bay I have 8 heavy drones that do the most of the killing really. The problem is that I die every now and then when I hit several 100k pirates that webify and warp scramble me. Can you think of any way that I can make my setup more effective against tougher pirates? It seems as if I can take down 45k-50k pirates with ease, but the next step up from those at 100k is near impossible and I have to warp out several times (as long as I'm not warp scrambled). although I find it hard to believe you couldn't find any help in the last 10 pages, I'll give you a little advice. fit another weapon (doesn't matter what), lose the cap battery and use a cap recharger (named if possible) that will save some grid, and you may be able to change that RCU to another hardener or cap relay or whatever. Make sure you are using the hardeners specific to the npcs you are fighting and you should be alright, if you don't know what they use check out the object explorer at www.eve-i.com
Jhodas	Posted - 2004.12.08 20:09:00 - [383] Is it me or does the NPC/PVP setup on the rax seem very similar? I got siggy!!
Jhodas	Posted - 2004.12.08 20:09:00 - [384] Is it me or does the NPC/PVP setup on the rax seem very similar? I got siggy!!
MrRookie	Posted - 2004.12.08 21:19:00 - [385] Originally by: Jhodas Is it me or does the NPC/PVP setup on the rax seem very similar? well basicly you could just fitt a scrambler, webber and a mwd to most of the setups here and you got a pvp fitting _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877
MrRookie	Posted - 2004.12.08 21:19:00 - [386] Originally by: Jhodas Is it me or does the NPC/PVP setup on the rax seem very similar? well basicly you could just fitt a scrambler, webber and a mwd to most of the setups here and you got a pvp fitting _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877
Jonas Bane	Posted - 2004.12.09 04:21:00 - [387] Anyone taken a stab at outfitting a 'rax for deadspace missions? The lack of MWD means you'll have to go oversized AB to close range. I can do it, but I have to drop the 1600 and go with 800 instead to get everything to fit. Suggestions?
Jonas Bane	Posted - 2004.12.09 04:21:00 - [388] Anyone taken a stab at outfitting a 'rax for deadspace missions? The lack of MWD means you'll have to go oversized AB to close range. I can do it, but I have to drop the 1600 and go with 800 instead to get everything to fit. Suggestions?
Kirex	Posted - 2004.12.20 07:05:00 - [389] Bump lets not let this thread die... (should we work on another ship? looks like the thorax is "compleate".........Balthial?) and with the changes...it looks like you have to go with a 10mn AB........or......a.....different....ship
Kirex	Posted - 2004.12.20 07:05:00 - [390] Bump lets not let this thread die... (should we work on another ship? looks like the thorax is "compleate".........Balthial?) and with the changes...it looks like you have to go with a 10mn AB........or......a.....different....ship

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