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CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 907	Posted - 2012.05.03 17:24:00 - [1] - Quote Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: Just discovered my character's current skin tone is not available. Why not? Seems a bit counterproductive to remove skin tones. The new skintypes replace the old skin tones. If you like your skin tone, and don't want to change it, you are free to keep it... just don't apply a skintype and save your character. You should be able to change everything else on your character. CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 907	Posted - 2012.05.03 17:26:00 - [2] - Quote Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu328/Seriphyn/ccpdiversity.png < gooby wat da fak Secondly, if skin tones are freely available, why aren't hair colours as well? Restricted hair colours infers racial consistency...unrestricted skin tones does not. (locked clothing debate also) The hair color restrictions have been lifted CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 402	Posted - 2012.05.03 23:31:00 - [3] - Quote Horatius Caul wrote: Entertain for a moment the idea that maybe our characters are immortal transhuman demigods, who can sleeve into a freshly-baked body composed of reconstituted bacon, vegetables and soylent green. Now people are made of SOYLENT GREEN? Mind. Blown. CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| @CCP_Goliath


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 915	Posted - 2012.05.04 15:43:00 - [4] - Quote MotherMoon wrote: Sorry I disagree, it just looks wrong because of the lips, they aren't changing color with the rest of the skin. The black lips are just a defect that I think has been fixed now. CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 916	Posted - 2012.05.04 16:08:00 - [5] - Quote MotherMoon wrote: can't have the old ones and the new ones? I'm curious as to the limitation stopping you from having both available, or is it a design choice? just so we are clear, when I talk about skintypes and skin tones, this is what I mean: skintype = new skin colors skin tone = old skin colors We feel the current color skin tone range is too narrow and having to pick one of 6 skin tones that are pretty much the doesn't make that much sense. We want to allow characters of all bloodlines to use the new skintypes we creates, and that range is pretty broad and the colors pretty evenly spread. So if we wanted to have the old color also available, the options would be 20 for each bloodline, which is too much, and the color palette would just look weird with maybe 10 very white options(for Amarr), and then the rest. Also, we want to move to use the new skintypes (behind the scenes they are totally different from the skin tones), but realize some people might not be happy to change colors so we are allowing people to keep their old skin tone until they actually apply a new skintype and save the character. CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 916	Posted - 2012.05.04 16:40:00 - [6] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: CCP, can you please stop dodging the question and tell us what it will take to get all clothing and hairstyle choices unlocked for all characters as well? Pretty much everyone has been asking for this from day one of Incursion. If you feel I am dodging the question, that is only because I don't know and it's nothing I have control over, it's up to the art direction. I'll ask some people after the weekend. CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 918	Posted - 2012.05.05 11:45:00 - [7] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: Sorry for getting short with you guys. That was unacceptable behaviour on my part and I apologise. It's just that myself and many other Incarna enthusiasts have been after this basically since Incursion in early 2011 and we've always either been straight out not answered or told "I'll ask the art team", and never given a response. No problem at all, apology accepted Anyways, shortly after I replied, the creative director came back and I asked him whether we would ever consider that. He said he wanted to give all bloodline access to all clothes at some point, but probably through the LP store or something like that (I don't know if he has discussed it with the art director, who may or may not agree). So there is no timeline on it, but there is at lest interest in doing it. I didn't ask about the hairstyle, but from my point of view, we will need to lift some restrictions if we put in racial blending (whether it's give you access to the hairstyle of the other bloodline or something else), I hope that answers some of your questions somewhat... I'm not sure there is any better answers at this point. CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 923	Posted - 2012.05.08 12:58:00 - [8] - Quote Logan LaMort wrote: So racial blending is definitely being considered? I know it was previewed at fanfest but being able to do it doesn't necessarily equal that you will. I'm all for it and I imagined it working as simply you'd get access to the other racial clothing, tattoos and hairstyles/colours. Faction clothing for LP is a pretty neat idea. Are you guys also still doing the clothing themes, such as cyberpunk, buisness, scientist etc? Also whatever happened to the eye implant on sisi last year? The one which looked like this. It was really cool, looked like an electronic eyepatch for us pirate types Yes, racial blending is still being considered, but there is no timeline on it or anything. The clothes are pretty much on hold now, so we are not really working on the clothing themes. There are actually a few new items(space suits) on Sisi right now, but I'm about to filter them out because they are not going out in Inferno and are just work in progress. The eye implant still exists, it's just filtered out... I am not sure what's going to happen with it though. CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 923	Posted - 2012.05.08 13:03:00 - [9] - Quote Commissar Kate wrote: I do rather liked the way the skin tones were handled is this video with the blood line blending. The Amarr-Brutor blend looked superb both facial feature and skin tone wise. I'm pretty sure the skincolor there is just picked... that is, the bloodlines are blended, and then they picked skin color that was in between the 2 bloodlines. So you could pick any color you want for the blended character. CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 923	Posted - 2012.05.08 13:06:00 - [10] - Quote Seriphyn Inhonores wrote: Is the replacement of the skin tones with these 14 skin types a preparation for bloodline blending? No, not really, but I guess it's good to have when/if we do the bloodline blending. CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 923	Posted - 2012.05.08 13:24:00 - [11] - Quote RavenTesio wrote: Still I would strongly argue here that it should not be possible to make a White Guy with Black Features or a Black Guy with White Features ... this is not out of any silly racist perspective, but simply that it is not possible in real-life. It is possible that we will restrict it a little bit (for example, Amarr might not have the darkest color, and Brutor not the lightest). The world we live in is so diverse that I'm pretty sure you can find dark skinned people with "white" features, and light skinned people with "black" features. I think the skintypes we have now work pretty well... my favorite test character, who is Civire, now has dark skin, and another favorite is a white Brutor. I think both look very good, and I'm pretty sure we see people similar to them all the time in real life CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 923	Posted - 2012.05.08 16:15:00 - [12] - Quote Andreus Ixiris wrote: Lastly, a while back I found an awesome bug (it was regretably fixed) that lets you look like you have clear glasses. Is there any possibility we could get our hands on some of those? As of today, awesome bug has been turned into awesome feature... I doubt that it will go out in Inferno, and I don't know how it will enter the game, but the asset is in CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP karkur C C P C C P Alliance 928	Posted - 2012.05.09 15:17:00 - [13] - Quote Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote: Come on, CCP Karkur... we've moved down from 72 racial skin tones* to 16, and you just killed yellow, red and olive skins in the process. Are you sure that newspeak is not the third language for CCP? I see red people every day, but not in New Eden. I see yellow poeple every day, but not in New Eden. I see olive people in my mirror, but not in New Eden. In a rough estimate, your new skin tones just left out 75% of humanity. When those colors were made, the artists made sure they covered the old default colors. The 9th color in the color wheel is olive. The new colors do cover a wide range of skin colors (not just white and black), and I really hope everyone can find a color they like. CCP karkur \| UI Programmer \| Team Avatar \| @CCP_karkur


CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 420	Posted - 2012.05.09 16:20:00 - [14] - Quote CCP karkur wrote: The new colors do cover a wide range of skin colors (not just white and black), and I really hope everyone can find a color they like. And even if they don't, they can keep their old one that they liked! CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| @CCP_Goliath

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