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Shin Taka
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:54:00 -
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The only problems with the Claw, is its tiny CPU and the cost/insurance ratio:(
The rifter is a great ship, and works well at range or close up. 250mm might be better until your skills are up, as they track much better, and don't rely on how you fly, as much as the 280mm.
The biggest tip with artillerys is to minimise your transversal velocity, which you can see on your scanner (look under settings) practice with some corp mates, you need to try and fly with your opponent, so that you don't move much relatively, if you can pull this off, at speed, then your safe, and they'll die :D
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2004.09.03 00:42:20notifyTraining of the skill Repair Systems lvl 6 has been completed. |
Shin Taka
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Posted - 2004.08.26 17:54:00 -
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The only problems with the Claw, is its tiny CPU and the cost/insurance ratio:(
The rifter is a great ship, and works well at range or close up. 250mm might be better until your skills are up, as they track much better, and don't rely on how you fly, as much as the 280mm.
The biggest tip with artillerys is to minimise your transversal velocity, which you can see on your scanner (look under settings) practice with some corp mates, you need to try and fly with your opponent, so that you don't move much relatively, if you can pull this off, at speed, then your safe, and they'll die :D
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Keeper of the Wombat
2004.09.03 00:42:20notifyTraining of the skill Repair Systems lvl 6 has been completed. |
MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.08.26 21:23:00 -
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OK I change my mind. The Rifter is THE uber frig ( I can fly all exept amarr). First of all the incredible speed. I used a 10 mn ab and could fly 2km/s. ANd its so agile too. I could orbit at 500 km ( the gravity kept me at 1200m) with a speed at 1200 m/s. And since I only can use hybrids I fitted ionblaster. It worked great even tho I hardly have any gunnery skills. small hybrid at lvl 3 and medium hybrid at lvl 1 only but thats because I have most missile skills. But still I took out a drug baron like this and hardly took any damage from the sentinels. If I get a mill in gunnery skills I hope it would improve however but gosh it was fun. I think I`m going to park my cruisers and my dominix for a few weeks. I am so glad I trained minmitar frig 
Feel free to sugest what guns to use 
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.08.26 21:23:00 -
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OK I change my mind. The Rifter is THE uber frig ( I can fly all exept amarr). First of all the incredible speed. I used a 10 mn ab and could fly 2km/s. ANd its so agile too. I could orbit at 500 km ( the gravity kept me at 1200m) with a speed at 1200 m/s. And since I only can use hybrids I fitted ionblaster. It worked great even tho I hardly have any gunnery skills. small hybrid at lvl 3 and medium hybrid at lvl 1 only but thats because I have most missile skills. But still I took out a drug baron like this and hardly took any damage from the sentinels. If I get a mill in gunnery skills I hope it would improve however but gosh it was fun. I think I`m going to park my cruisers and my dominix for a few weeks. I am so glad I trained minmitar frig
Feel free to sugest what guns to use
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2004.08.26 22:20:00 -
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Sometimes i just love this community!!
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jukriamrr
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Posted - 2004.08.26 22:20:00 -
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Sometimes i just love this community!!
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.08.26 22:33:00 -
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The rifter is probably the best tech1 frigate for taking on bigger ships. It's fast, agile, and hits like a ton of bricks.
2x200mm
2xRockets
1xMWD
1xWarp Scrambler
2xCPR
Orbit at 5k, and you slam the hell out of stuff. If youre going after other people in frigates, youre probably better off in a kestrel. The 3rd midslot is very helpful.
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Pandora Panda
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Posted - 2004.08.26 22:33:00 -
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The rifter is probably the best tech1 frigate for taking on bigger ships. It's fast, agile, and hits like a ton of bricks.
2x200mm
2xRockets
1xMWD
1xWarp Scrambler
2xCPR
Orbit at 5k, and you slam the hell out of stuff. If youre going after other people in frigates, youre probably better off in a kestrel. The 3rd midslot is very helpful.
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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.08.26 22:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Vigilant
Lows (Reactor Control Unit 1's or Power Diag 1's if you need more power)
I'd personally use a micro auxiliary power core and a cap relay .. but a pdu is ok instead of the cap relay
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Diamond Dog
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Posted - 2004.08.26 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Vigilant
Lows (Reactor Control Unit 1's or Power Diag 1's if you need more power)
I'd personally use a micro auxiliary power core and a cap relay .. but a pdu is ok instead of the cap relay
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NINE BALL
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Posted - 2004.08.27 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: NINE BALL on 27/08/2004 00:18:53
My "Disposable" PvP setup is:
High
2x 200mm
2x Standard Rocket Launcher
Med
1x Warp Scrambler
1x 10MN AB
Low
1x Micro Aux Power Core
1x ? Any suggestions?
Any better ideas? I have Electronics and Engineering at LvL 4 plus all the other base skills needed to keep a 10MN AB, and Warp Scrambler going with full use of weapons. Any suggestions on what better to fit and what skills and LvL's needed to fit them would be greatly appreciated. I cant fit any bigger a turret or a Rocket/Missile launcher unless I fit andother Micro Aux Power Core, but doing that removes that low slot to any other uses, but if anyone suggests that that extra low should be put towards better wepons, i've been thinking about that, but I dunno if its worth it. 
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NINE BALL
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Posted - 2004.08.27 00:15:00 -
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Edited by: NINE BALL on 27/08/2004 00:18:53
My "Disposable" PvP setup is:
High
2x 200mm
2x Standard Rocket Launcher
Med
1x Warp Scrambler
1x 10MN AB
Low
1x Micro Aux Power Core
1x ? Any suggestions?
Any better ideas? I have Electronics and Engineering at LvL 4 plus all the other base skills needed to keep a 10MN AB, and Warp Scrambler going with full use of weapons. Any suggestions on what better to fit and what skills and LvL's needed to fit them would be greatly appreciated. I cant fit any bigger a turret or a Rocket/Missile launcher unless I fit andother Micro Aux Power Core, but doing that removes that low slot to any other uses, but if anyone suggests that that extra low should be put towards better wepons, i've been thinking about that, but I dunno if its worth it.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.27 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: MrRookie
what exactly makes the rifter better than the breacher? I`m just curius cuz I just trained minmatar frig myself to start using min shipies.
Cap. Flying around in a Breacher with an MWD is a pain in the ass. You'll continually need to warp twice to get to gates. Also, personally, I prefer turrets over missiles. 3x 200mm guns on a Rifter wtfpwns.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.27 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: MrRookie
what exactly makes the rifter better than the breacher? I`m just curius cuz I just trained minmatar frig myself to start using min shipies.
Cap. Flying around in a Breacher with an MWD is a pain in the ass. You'll continually need to warp twice to get to gates. Also, personally, I prefer turrets over missiles. 3x 200mm guns on a Rifter wtfpwns.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.27 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 27/08/2004 00:35:04
Originally by: NINE BALL
Low
1x Micro Aux Power Core
1x ? Any suggestions?
Damage mod and CPR. No point in running a 10MN AB on a frig, may as well run a MWD. Also I'd switch out launcher for another 200mm turret. The 200mm turret does more DOT than a 280mm and 250mm.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2004.08.27 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 27/08/2004 00:35:04
Originally by: NINE BALL
Low
1x Micro Aux Power Core
1x ? Any suggestions?
Damage mod and CPR. No point in running a 10MN AB on a frig, may as well run a MWD. Also I'd switch out launcher for another 200mm turret. The 200mm turret does more DOT than a 280mm and 250mm.
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NINE BALL
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Posted - 2004.08.27 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: NINE BALL on 27/08/2004 02:27:06
Edited by: NINE BALL on 27/08/2004 02:21:26
thats sounds good, and the reason I use a 10MN AB instead of a 1MN MWD is because of the insanely reduced sig radius, 25% shield is returned, and 25% cap is returned. I may be a little slower, but with the AB and good fuel conservation skill lvl I can run the 10MN AB and a Warp Scrambler forever. Using a MWD and a warp scrambler makes alot of cap trouble for me.
Oh and I just checked. To have 3 200mm turrets i'll need not only a micro aux, but a CPR as well, so that decides what goes in the extra low slot, LoL
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NINE BALL
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Posted - 2004.08.27 02:18:00 -
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Edited by: NINE BALL on 27/08/2004 02:27:06
Edited by: NINE BALL on 27/08/2004 02:21:26
thats sounds good, and the reason I use a 10MN AB instead of a 1MN MWD is because of the insanely reduced sig radius, 25% shield is returned, and 25% cap is returned. I may be a little slower, but with the AB and good fuel conservation skill lvl I can run the 10MN AB and a Warp Scrambler forever. Using a MWD and a warp scrambler makes alot of cap trouble for me.
Oh and I just checked. To have 3 200mm turrets i'll need not only a micro aux, but a CPR as well, so that decides what goes in the extra low slot, LoL
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.08.27 07:22:00 -
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I fitted this:
high: 2 standard launchers 2 ion blasters ( I can only use hybrids atm)
mid: 10mn AB and scrambler
low: micro aux and cpr(or what ever its called)
gonna train for small projektiles though
fun as hell :)
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MrRookie
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Posted - 2004.08.27 07:22:00 -
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I fitted this:
high: 2 standard launchers 2 ion blasters ( I can only use hybrids atm)
mid: 10mn AB and scrambler
low: micro aux and cpr(or what ever its called)
gonna train for small projektiles though
fun as hell :)
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NINE BALL
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Posted - 2004.08.27 08:18:00 -
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Yeah it is fun, though the 200mm's require that you get a little to close imo to use them well. Ehh I guess higher gunnery skills that focus on extra range will take care of that.
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NINE BALL
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Posted - 2004.08.27 08:18:00 -
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Yeah it is fun, though the 200mm's require that you get a little to close imo to use them well. Ehh I guess higher gunnery skills that focus on extra range will take care of that.
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Meshuggah
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Posted - 2004.08.27 09:37:00 -
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Rifter together with the Kess is the most cost effective way to do dmg in game. The Kess is like driving a buss but then again it got some tricks to.
My standard fitting is as most got printed down allready.
Hi: 3x200mm and a launcher
Mid: 1xMWD/10 MN AB and a weber
Low: small armor repair and a T1 dmg mod
It goes fast, hits hard and if thing go crap just get out lick wounds and get back in.
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Meshuggah
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Posted - 2004.08.27 09:37:00 -
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Rifter together with the Kess is the most cost effective way to do dmg in game. The Kess is like driving a buss but then again it got some tricks to.
My standard fitting is as most got printed down allready.
Hi: 3x200mm and a launcher
Mid: 1xMWD/10 MN AB and a weber
Low: small armor repair and a T1 dmg mod
It goes fast, hits hard and if thing go crap just get out lick wounds and get back in.
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Claire Scott
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:14:00 -
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My Rifter:
2x 200mm both loaded with anti-armor ammo to cover the three damage types
2x Missile Launchers, one with anti-shiled, the other explosive
1x shield booster
1x afterburner
1x armor repairer
1x damage mods for guns
I have fun with it.
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Claire Scott
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Posted - 2004.08.27 11:14:00 -
[56]
My Rifter:
2x 200mm both loaded with anti-armor ammo to cover the three damage types
2x Missile Launchers, one with anti-shiled, the other explosive
1x shield booster
1x afterburner
1x armor repairer
1x damage mods for guns
I have fun with it.
-E
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Dame Sneakers
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Posted - 2004.08.27 16:10:00 -
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To those of you that are using 200mm guns and orbiting at 5K, how do your guns hit the bad guys? It looks like the optimal range for a stock 200mm is 1K with a 4K accuray falloff. So, like at 5K, can you even hit stuff?
I use two rocket launchers with foxfire rockets, two 125mm autocannons with EMP ammo and orbit at 500 meters. I would say that 90% of my damage is done by the rockets, as the guns don't hit for squat.
So, how do I get these stinkin' guns to hit better?
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Dame Sneakers
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Posted - 2004.08.27 16:10:00 -
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To those of you that are using 200mm guns and orbiting at 5K, how do your guns hit the bad guys? It looks like the optimal range for a stock 200mm is 1K with a 4K accuray falloff. So, like at 5K, can you even hit stuff?
I use two rocket launchers with foxfire rockets, two 125mm autocannons with EMP ammo and orbit at 500 meters. I would say that 90% of my damage is done by the rockets, as the guns don't hit for squat.
So, how do I get these stinkin' guns to hit better?
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Balbriggan
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Posted - 2004.08.27 16:14:00 -
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I fit mine out as follows :-
High Slot - Nuffin
Mid Slot - 1 Phased Monopropellant Hydrazine Booster and 1 Cold Gas Arcjet AB
Low Slot - 2 Beta Hull overdrive thingies.
Man, does this baby move (Stopped counting at 25km/s)
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Balbriggan
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Posted - 2004.08.27 16:14:00 -
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I fit mine out as follows :-
High Slot - Nuffin
Mid Slot - 1 Phased Monopropellant Hydrazine Booster and 1 Cold Gas Arcjet AB
Low Slot - 2 Beta Hull overdrive thingies.
Man, does this baby move (Stopped counting at 25km/s)
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