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Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.04 11:22:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Malcanis wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Confirming 0.0 is dead because people didn't cluster into one system when you happened to be there. It's the main hub for an alliance of thousands. Surrounded by completely empty systems, and systems with one person in them. It doesn't get more dead that that. And i wasn't just there the one day. 40 would be the rough average from two samples. Now perhaps you begin to get a glimmer of understanding of just how badly non-combat activities in 0.0 are gimped? Now perhaps you begin to understand why local and structure mails need to hit the road and never come back. Those systems are all empty because there is no need to patrol them or anything. They can just sit back in one station, thousands of them, and have all the intel they need for five regions deep. Anyone so much as touches anything they own or gets anywhere remotely close they will have an armada of thousands instantly ready to counter them in a matter of a couple minutes. And yet they ***** about broken mechanics in high sec. LOL! We still have the same broken bounty system we did in beta even though players told the devs how to fix it numerous times. Instead they're fixing FW, a feature nobody nobody asked for. If we're lucky they might take a look at stuff like broken null sec in 10-15 years. :( |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
883
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Posted - 2012.05.04 20:37:00 -
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Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Malcanis wrote:Bane Necran wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Confirming 0.0 is dead because people didn't cluster into one system when you happened to be there. It's the main hub for an alliance of thousands. Surrounded by completely empty systems, and systems with one person in them. It doesn't get more dead that that. And i wasn't just there the one day. 40 would be the rough average from two samples. Now perhaps you begin to get a glimmer of understanding of just how badly non-combat activities in 0.0 are gimped? Now perhaps you begin to understand why local and structure mails need to hit the road and never come back. Those systems are all empty because there is no need to patrol them or anything. They can just sit back in one station, thousands of them, and have all the intel they need for five regions deep. Anyone so much as touches anything they own or gets anywhere remotely close they will have an armada of thousands instantly ready to counter them in a matter of a couple minutes. And yet they ***** about broken mechanics in high sec. LOL! http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Goonswarm_Federationfeel free to patrol 40 stations, 113 ihubs+tcus, and 300 towers across 10 regions i understand that you have never been in a successful space-holding alliance but please take your poorly conceived notions of nullsec back to fhc
Your alliance has thousands and thousands of members not including the largest blue list in the history of this game. You seriously suggesting you guys are too lazy to patrol that?
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Geddon4Life
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:02:00 -
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Please come burn VFK.
Marlona Sky wrote:
Your alliance has thousands and thousands of members not including the largest blue list in the history of this game. You seriously suggesting you guys are too lazy to patrol that?
Unless you shoot tech or camp VFK, no fucks are given. |

Ruiner Drudge
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:15:00 -
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I didn't participate in Burn Jita because I didn't want to wreck my sec status. But if a bunch of hiseccers attack VFK, oh yes, I will be there.
This would be awesome, do it. |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1348
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:18:00 -
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Could we move this up closer?
And could you guys actually do this please? TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
883
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:21:00 -
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Geddon4Life wrote:Please come burn VFK. Marlona Sky wrote:
Your alliance has thousands and thousands of members not including the largest blue list in the history of this game. You seriously suggesting you guys are too lazy to patrol that?
Unless you shoot tech or camp VFK, no fucks are given.
And how will you know your precious tech is being shot?
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1348
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:28:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:
And how will you know your precious tech is being shot?
You know shooting a POS causes notification mails, right? And that every 0.0 alliance worth its salt has spies literally everywhere? TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
302
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:32:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:
Now perhaps you begin to understand why local and structure mails need to hit the road and never come back. Those systems are all empty because there is no need to patrol them or anything. They can just sit back in one station, thousands of them, and have all the intel they need for five regions deep. Anyone so much as touches anything they own or gets anywhere remotely close they will have an armada of thousands instantly ready to counter them in a matter of a couple minutes.
And yet they ***** about broken mechanics in high sec. LOL!
I'm sorry but patrolling would just make living in nullsec miserable. You are dumb for even suggesting that it would be fun or interesting. The isk generation for individual pilots in 0.0 isn't worth patrolling to protect for hours on end frankly. It's barely worth undocking a defense gang to deal with. The return of 0.0 mining may change that if it's lucrative enough: but frankly I don't think it will be. |

Aracimia Wolfe
The Cursed Navy Tactical Narcotics Team
82
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:36:00 -
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Hmmm Burn VFK, I'd love this. would give me a chance to practice my bombing.
Also didn't PL try this already........
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
572
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Posted - 2012.05.04 21:43:00 -
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Aracimia Wolfe wrote:Hmmm Burn VFK, I'd love this. would give me a chance to practice my bombing.
Also didn't PL try this already........ They weren't blobbing, oh no, not like the HIGHSEC people can.
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
305
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:02:00 -
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Hey guys: the secret to drawing people to nullsec is making it more ******* miserable to live in, who knew! |

Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:06:00 -
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Contact Billy Merc, he has ample experience in leading coalitions of pilots into VFK, turning numerous fleets to scrap. Granted, they were his own, but you have to start somewhere.
VFK by August? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
574
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:08:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Contact Billy Merc, he has ample experience in leading coalitions of pilots into VFK, turning numerous fleets to scrap. Granted, they were his own, but you have to start somewhere.
VFK by August? Oh dear, not another existential threat to the goondom... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Gloomy Gus
GoonWaffe
297
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:09:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Bane Necran wrote:And i wasn't just there the one day. 40 would be the rough average from two samples. They can just sit back in one station, thousands of them ... LOL!
Jesus you poor simple-minde dcunt did you pay no attention to the esteemed Dr Necran when you were quoting him there's only 40 people there "DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4008
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:10:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Geddon4Life wrote:Please come burn VFK. Marlona Sky wrote:
Your alliance has thousands and thousands of members not including the largest blue list in the history of this game. You seriously suggesting you guys are too lazy to patrol that?
Unless you shoot tech or camp VFK, no fucks are given. And how will you know your precious tech is being shot?
fights happen after towers come out of reinforced
this is clearly difficult to understand for somebody who has never successfully defended space "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Gloomy Gus
GoonWaffe
297
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:10:00 -
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LOL! "DIE N***ERS1 DIE!!!" - EVENEWS24's Riverini |

Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1355
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:10:00 -
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I would love to see a little CFC competition for "biggest fleet wiped by the smallest gang".
Seriously, bombers would reign supreme over people who have never even seen a bomb before. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |

Verte Sinkon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:14:00 -
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40 people yesterday but 125 people today! Do we have a Malthusian catastrophe on our hands?!?!?!? |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
883
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:16:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:
And how will you know your precious tech is being shot?
You know shooting a POS causes notification mails, right? And that every 0.0 alliance worth its salt has spies literally everywhere?
I was referring to if structure mails were removed, how would you know.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:18:00 -
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please do it.
(also take care that you don't become test pets before you set foot into Deklein even once; it's cool if you join them after you smacked goons but allowing test to blue you before you did anything of relevance will only lead to you transforming from high-sec carebears into nullbears - which isn't much of a transformation at all) |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
281
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:20:00 -
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Yes, because if there is one thing the devs have learned over the last decade of eve it's that the more monotonous, joblike features you put in the game, the better for everyone.
one of the dumbest ideas ive ever seen on gd, and that is saying something |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
883
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Geddon4Life wrote:Please come burn VFK. Marlona Sky wrote:
Your alliance has thousands and thousands of members not including the largest blue list in the history of this game. You seriously suggesting you guys are too lazy to patrol that?
Unless you shoot tech or camp VFK, no fucks are given. And how will you know your precious tech is being shot? fights happen after towers come out of reinforced this is clearly difficult to understand for somebody who has never successfully defended space
Perhaps opening up combat outside of things based on reinforce timers is too much for you and your rabble to comprehend. You have a very narrow imagination outside of spinning a ship in station and waiting for the next CTA of "Blob some poor bastards" retardedness.
The entire reason why you are opposed to it is because it would punish the lazy.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Marlona Sky
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
883
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:24:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Yes, because if there is one thing the devs have learned over the last decade of eve it's that the more monotonous, joblike features you put in the game, the better for everyone.
one of the dumbest ideas ive ever seen on gd, and that is saying something
Sorry you view more pvp as a job.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
574
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:26:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Geddon4Life wrote:Please come burn VFK.
Unless you shoot tech or camp VFK, no fucks are given. And how will you know your precious tech is being shot? fights happen after towers come out of reinforced this is clearly difficult to understand for somebody who has never successfully defended space Perhaps opening up combat outside of things based on reinforce timers is too much for you and your rabble to comprehend. You have a very narrow imagination outside of spinning a ship in station and waiting for the next CTA of "Blob some poor bastards" retardedness. The entire reason why you are opposed to it is because it would punish the lazy. Sure. You win.
Go tell CCP about your brilliant idea. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
283
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:28:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Sorry you view more pvp as a job.
Sorry you view 100s of cov ops doing soul-crushing scheduled circuits of their space and moons as "pvp"
worst idea ever
you need to skill yourself (ingame)
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4008
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:30:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Andski wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Geddon4Life wrote:Please come burn VFK. Marlona Sky wrote:
Your alliance has thousands and thousands of members not including the largest blue list in the history of this game. You seriously suggesting you guys are too lazy to patrol that?
Unless you shoot tech or camp VFK, no fucks are given. And how will you know your precious tech is being shot? fights happen after towers come out of reinforced this is clearly difficult to understand for somebody who has never successfully defended space Perhaps opening up combat outside of things based on reinforce timers is too much for you and your rabble to comprehend. You have a very narrow imagination outside of spinning a ship in station and waiting for the next CTA of "Blob some poor bastards" retardedness. The entire reason why you are opposed to it is because it would punish the lazy.
the entire reason why you support this is because you've never been able to defend space "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
575
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:34:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Sorry you view more pvp as a job. Sorry you view 100s of cov ops doing soul-crushing scheduled circuits of their space and moons as "pvp" worst idea ever you need to skill yourself (ingame) We'd probably teach newbees to do this. They'd get so much isk, imagine if someone entered local and was like "where's the POS? I need to scout it for the POS update" and there's a corp bookmark right there... dawww cure newbie.
I'm told back in delve newbies could get stealth bomber killmails by orbiting jumpbridges and killing SBs that tried to catch industrials.
It helps that a lot of POSes are corp-bookmarked and we live all over Dek, so getting a look at the POS once or twice a day to check it off on some POS tracking app wouldn't be too hard, if it came to it. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Darth Tickles
Dark Sun Consortium
284
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:38:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:It helps that a lot of POSes are corp-bookmarked and we live all over Dek, so getting a look at the POS once or twice a day to check it off on some POS tracking app wouldn't be too hard, if it came to it.
lol
in addition to it being an awful idea for nullsec generally, you are absolutely correct that goons are the best equipped to handle the extra workload anyway with the huge numbers, huge income, and the organizational capacity of a medium sized business
the worst idea ever just got ironically worse
definite need for some self-skilling here; very low skill |

Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
117
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:38:00 -
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Dabnus wrote:The stations of uncensored expression are closing down; the lights are going out; but there is still time for those to whom freedom and honour mean something, to consult together.
Capsuleers have, it seems to me, formed a true judgment upon the disaster which has befallen the Empire. They realise the far-reaching consequences of the abandonment and ruin of Jita. If in February, March or April, High Sec, Low Sec, South and West had jointly declared that they would act together upon Goonswarm if Herr Mittani committed an act of unprovoked aggression against this system, I hold that the Dictator would have been confronted with such a formidable array that he would have been deterred from his purpose.
But all these backward speculations belong to history. It is no good using hard words among friends about the past, and reproaching one another for what cannot be recalled. It is the future, not the past, that demands our earnest and anxious thought. We must recognize that the democratic, liberal and peaceful forces have everywhere sustained a defeat which leaves them weaker, morally and physically, to cope with dangers which have vastly grown. But the cause of freedom has in it a recuperative power and virtue which can draw from misfortune new hope and new strength. If ever there was a time when men and women who cherish the ideals of the founders should take earnest counsel with one another, that time is now.
All the universe wishes for prosperity. Have we gained it by the sacrifice of Jita? It has been destroyed and devoured. It is now being digested. The question which is of interest to a lot of ordinary capsuleers, common capsuleers, is whether this destruction of Jita will bring upon the world a blessing or a curse.
Shall we be able to say to ourselves: "Well, that's out of the way, anyhow. Now let's get on with our regular daily life." But are these hopes well founded or are we merely making the best of what we had not the force and virtue to stop? That is the question that the peoples in all their space must ask themselves today. Is this the end, or is there more to come?
To this has been added the cult of war. Children are to be taught in their earliest schooling the delights and profits of conquest and aggression. A whole mighty community has been drawn painfully, by severe privations, into a warlike frame. They are held in this condition by a party organisation, who derive all kinds of profits, good and bad, from the upkeep of the regime. The Goonswarm tolerate no opinion but their own. They feed on hatred. They must seek, from time to time, and always at shorter intervals, a new target, a new prize, a new victim. The Dictator, in all his pride, is held in the grip of his Party machine. He can go forward; he cannot go back. He must blood his hounds and show them sport, or else be devoured by them. All-strong without, he is all-weak within.
No one must, however, underrate the power and efficiency of a totalitarian state. Where the whole population of a great bro pact, amiable capsuleers are gripped by the neck and by the hair by Goonswarm tyranny - for they are the same things spelt in different ways - the rulers for the time being can exercise a power for the purposes of war and external domination before which the ordinary free societies are at a grievous practical disadvantage. We have to recognise this.
The culminating question to which I have been leading is whether the universe should meet this menace by submission or by resistance. Let us see, then, whether the means of resistance remain to us today. We have sustained an immense disaster. Empire lies at this moment abashed and distracted before the triumphant assertions of dictatorial power.
Far away, happily protected by forum anonymity, you, the capsuleers of New Eden are the spectators, and I may add the increasingly involved spectators of these tragedies and crimes. Will you wait until freedom and independence have succumbed, and then take up the cause when it is three-quarters ruined, yourselves alone?
"No."
There, in one single word, is the resolve which the forces of freedom and progress, of tolerance and good will, should take. It is not in the power of one alliance, however formidably armed, still less is it in the power of a small group of men, violent, ruthless men, who have always to cast their eyes back over their shoulders, to cramp and fetter the forward march of human destiny. The preponderant universal forces are upon our side; they have but to be combined to be obeyed. We must arm. Empire must arm. Low-Sec must arm, Null-Sec must arm. If, through an earnest desire for peace, we have placed ourselves at a disadvantage, we must make up for it by redoubled exertions, and, if necessary, by fortitude in suffering.
The people will stand erect, and will face whatever may be coming.
Dictatorship - the fetish worship of one man - is a passing phase. A state of society where men may not speak their minds; such a state of society cannot long endure if brought into contact with the healthy outside world. The light of civilised progress with its tolerances and co-operation, with its dignities and joys, has often in the past been blotted out. But I hold the belief that we have now at last got far enough ahead of barbarism to control it, and to avert it, if only we realise what is afoot and make up our minds in time. We shall do it in the end. But how much harder our toil for every day's delay!
Is this a call to war? Does anyone pretend that preparation for resistance to aggression is unleashing war? I declare it to be the sole guarantee of peace. We need the swift gathering of forces to confront not only military but moral aggression; the resolute and sober acceptance of their duty by all the corporations, great and small.
WC
that's one tiny head |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
575
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Posted - 2012.05.04 22:43:00 -
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Darth Tickles wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:It helps that a lot of POSes are corp-bookmarked and we live all over Dek, so getting a look at the POS once or twice a day to check it off on some POS tracking app wouldn't be too hard, if it came to it. lol in addition to it being an awful idea for nullsec generally, you are absolutely correct that goons are the best equipped to handle the extra workload anyway with the huge numbers, huge income, and the organizational capacity of a medium sized business the worst idea ever just got ironically worse definite need for some self-skilling here; very low skill But, imagine one day you're ratting and this newbee pops up:
"Is it normal for the POS to have a grey bar on it?"
It would make the BEST broadcast ever. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |
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