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WonkySplitDemon United Nations Space Command Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.10 23:36:00 - [31] Originally by: Tippia 1. What possession of the dev's are you adressing, and why would you think it would listen (since you're using "dev's" rather than "devs")? 2. Why would you want to remove PvP from a PvP game ù isn't that like wanting to play Counterstrike but without the knifing and shooting? 3. If you don't want other players to chime in, don't use the forums. 4. You choose to PvP by clicking the "Undock" button. Welcome to EVE. You sir, are a **** of the highest order UNSC- United Nations Space Command
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.04.10 23:43:00 - [32] Sorry but eve is like driving down grand theft auto city and shooting everyone you drive by, some of them may shot back others may run and the cops could definetly mess you up there. Unfourtunatly you sound like one of those people that got his car jacked and ran over. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 6Apr09
WonkySplitDemon United Nations Space Command Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.10 23:44:00 - [33] Originally by: Nova Fox Sorry but eve is like driving down grand theft auto city and shooting everyone you drive by, some of them may shot back others may run and the cops could definetly mess you up there. Unfourtunatly you sound like one of those people that got his car jacked and ran over. no its not.. its just not like that at all UNSC- United Nations Space Command
Bremall	Posted - 2009.04.11 00:09:00 - [34] Watch out for a scam thats going around.A corp named Fabres Astarum invites you to join but as they are helping you they have to drop something to make room and ask you to pick it up. Then they shot your ship up and steal everything. 1 guys name is Wylis. He acts like he wants to help you and he hangs out in the rookie room to help new players just to messs them over for fun. It is people like this that make people quit the game.
Holder Jaeger	Posted - 2009.04.11 00:21:00 - [35] **** you
Apoctasy The Carebear Stare	Posted - 2009.04.11 00:54:00 - [36] 0/10 troll
Karentaki Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.11 11:24:00 - [37] Got the message yet? Originally by: Bremall Watch out for a scam thats going around.A corp named Fabres Astarum invites you to join but as they are helping you they have to drop something to make room and ask you to pick it up. Then they shot your ship up and steal everything. 1 guys name is Wylis. He acts like he wants to help you and he hangs out in the rookie room to help new players just to messs them over for fun. It is people like this that make people quit the game. Good. Quote: EVE is like a sandbox with landmines. Deal with it.
WonkySplitDemon United Nations Space Command Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.11 11:29:00 - [38] Originally by: Bremall Watch out for a scam thats going around.A corp named Fabres Astarum invites you to join but as they are helping you they have to drop something to make room and ask you to pick it up. Then they shot your ship up and steal everything. 1 guys name is Wylis. He acts like he wants to help you and he hangs out in the rookie room to help new players just to messs them over for fun. It is people like this that make people quit the game. I think you are lying, because ina corp your corpies can shoot to at any time without getting a sec hit and without being ganked by po po. UNSC- United Nations Space Command
Shidhe Minmatar The Babylon5 Consortuim	Posted - 2009.04.11 11:35:00 - [39] Even those that hate PVP love things to grumble about - like the day they were caught out in low sec without an escort. To make the game into two streams of players would destroy the unity and internal consistency of EVE - and that is what makes it so worthwhile to many people. The idea that this is what space really could be like (given some tinkering with the laws of physics ), not just something filled with obvious GM interventions, is what makes the difference between game immersion and just isk collecting. Or in the case of Jita, suspension of the laws of economics.
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2009.04.11 11:48:00 - [40] Originally by: Delnarai There are many out there that love PVP. There are also many out there that hate PVP. If the Dev's are listening, I would ask again to make EVE a PVP choice game. Those that mine and create stuff and only want to fend off game created pirates already have the weapons to do so in all levels of space. Those that want to gate camp, PVP of go all out warring on each other will be able to continue to do so on other PVP players in all levels of space. All current and former/vacationing players should receive a one time non reversible choice to be PVP or not PVP. Any new character created must make the irreversible choice of PVP or NO PVP when created. Can tippers still get whacked! Any Non PVP Player that fires upon any players becomes PVP for ten hours EVE time (a costly mistake) and/or sanctioned by concord. NOW ANY PLAYER CAN ENJOY ALL ASPECTS OF EVE! I like this idea. The only thing I would change though is if you pick to not do PvP then you are instantly banned from playing and your credit card is billed for $500. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN
E Vile	Posted - 2009.04.11 11:50:00 - [41] Edited by: E Vile on 11/04/2009 11:53:37 Originally by: Delnarai There are many out there that love PVP. There are also many out there that hate PVP. If the Dev's are listening, I would ask again to make EVE a PVP choice game. Those that mine and create stuff and only want to fend off game created pirates already have the weapons to do so in all levels of space. Those that want to gate camp, PVP of go all out warring on each other will be able to continue to do so on other PVP players in all levels of space. All current and former/vacationing players should receive a one time non reversible choice to be PVP or not PVP. Any new character created must make the irreversible choice of PVP or NO PVP when created. Can tippers still get whacked! Any Non PVP Player that fires upon any players becomes PVP for ten hours EVE time (a costly mistake) and/or sanctioned by concord. NOW ANY PLAYER CAN ENJOY ALL ASPECTS OF EVE! WoW might be a better game for you. As for your idea, you have no idea how much this would be exploited. The ONLY way to make EVE PVE is to make a whole other EVE universe. A PVE server, and that's NOT going to happen, so....if EVE's PVP isn't for you, STAY IN HIGH SEC or switch to Hello Kitty Online.
Ji Sama	Posted - 2009.04.11 11:53:00 - [42] eve is fine :D pvp is noneconsentual as it should be! This is a signature not related to EVE
Reyold Bengali Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:05:00 - [43] Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon A tip to the Op: If you want to address something to the devs, there are ways to do so. They are called mail, e-mail, and petition system (though some would argue the petition system is slightly misused if used like this, but not I). If you want to address a subject to the community, you would use the forum. Why? Because of what a forum IS, by definition, and what they are intended for. I can post a topic that says 'To Delnarai', but who's to blame if that thread turns into a spam fest or goes off topic? Nobody, except me. If you use the wrong medium, it's not the other posters fault for calling you on it. It's yours, either through ignorance or stupidity ... your pick. On the topic of 'voluntary pvp' ... why? What would this game be then? See, we're talking about a matter of perspective. If by chance you only define EvE as 'a space game', then I can understand what you feel like. But for MANY players, including myself, EvE is not just a space game. EvE is the most realistic, single-shard universe science fiction simulator on the market. To ME, that's why I play. So, by my own view, if you were to make pvp optional, it would be as stupid as adding dwarves as the next race. Doesn't make sense to you? Because you obviously don't value EvE for what it is. You want it to be something very different. You'll hear suggestions from other players which might upset you. If someone suggests that you 'play another game', don't take it so hard. Many of us are not telling you that we don't like you or want you here. What we ARE telling you, however, is OBVIOUSLY EvE is not the game you really want to play. Instead of massively changing this game, please, find another which better suits you. It's selfishness, really. You think you want to play EvE, but you don't want to play EvE. You want to play something that kinda, sorta, maybe resembles EvE. You also don't care about those who love and enjoy the game as it currently is. A subscriber base that has continued to grow over the last six years. You want to change the game, so that YOU can play the something kinda, sorta, maybe like EvE, without actually having to play EvE. The harsh reality of EvE ... combat anywhere, vicious player interactions, that sort of thing? THAT IS EVE! That is what makes EvE unique. That is what will keep EvE afloat in the future, when other sci-fi games come on the market and take all those wishy-washy players who didn't really want to play EvE in the first place. Salute to you on finding a game that you want to play ... not a game that you want to change drastically so that you can enjoy it. I could not have said it half as well as this. ------- Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
WonkySplitDemon United Nations Space Command Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:12:00 - [44] Originally by: Reyold Bengali Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon A tip to the Op: If you want to address something to the devs, there are ways to do so. They are called mail, e-mail, and petition system (though some would argue the petition system is slightly misused if used like this, but not I). If you want to address a subject to the community, you would use the forum. Why? Because of what a forum IS, by definition, and what they are intended for. I can post a topic that says 'To Delnarai', but who's to blame if that thread turns into a spam fest or goes off topic? Nobody, except me. If you use the wrong medium, it's not the other posters fault for calling you on it. It's yours, either through ignorance or stupidity ... your pick. On the topic of 'voluntary pvp' ... why? What would this game be then? See, we're talking about a matter of perspective. If by chance you only define EvE as 'a space game', then I can understand what you feel like. But for MANY players, including myself, EvE is not just a space game. EvE is the most realistic, single-shard universe science fiction simulator on the market. To ME, that's why I play. So, by my own view, if you were to make pvp optional, it would be as stupid as adding dwarves as the next race. Doesn't make sense to you? Because you obviously don't value EvE for what it is. You want it to be something very different. You'll hear suggestions from other players which might upset you. If someone suggests that you 'play another game', don't take it so hard. Many of us are not telling you that we don't like you or want you here. What we ARE telling you, however, is OBVIOUSLY EvE is not the game you really want to play. Instead of massively changing this game, please, find another which better suits you. It's selfishness, really. You think you want to play EvE, but you don't want to play EvE. You want to play something that kinda, sorta, maybe resembles EvE. You also don't care about those who love and enjoy the game as it currently is. A subscriber base that has continued to grow over the last six years. You want to change the game, so that YOU can play the something kinda, sorta, maybe like EvE, without actually having to play EvE. The harsh reality of EvE ... combat anywhere, vicious player interactions, that sort of thing? THAT IS EVE! That is what makes EvE unique. That is what will keep EvE afloat in the future, when other sci-fi games come on the market and take all those wishy-washy players who didn't really want to play EvE in the first place. Salute to you on finding a game that you want to play ... not a game that you want to change drastically so that you can enjoy it. I could not have said it half as well as this. PVP is optional, are we playing the same game? UNSC- United Nations Space Command
Reyold Bengali Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:23:00 - [45] Originally by: WonkySplitDemon Originally by: Reyold Bengali Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon A tip to the Op: If you want to address something to the devs, there are ways to do so. They are called mail, e-mail, and petition system (though some would argue the petition system is slightly misused if used like this, but not I). If you want to address a subject to the community, you would use the forum. Why? Because of what a forum IS, by definition, and what they are intended for. I can post a topic that says 'To Delnarai', but who's to blame if that thread turns into a spam fest or goes off topic? Nobody, except me. If you use the wrong medium, it's not the other posters fault for calling you on it. It's yours, either through ignorance or stupidity ... your pick. On the topic of 'voluntary pvp' ... why? What would this game be then? See, we're talking about a matter of perspective. If by chance you only define EvE as 'a space game', then I can understand what you feel like. But for MANY players, including myself, EvE is not just a space game. EvE is the most realistic, single-shard universe science fiction simulator on the market. To ME, that's why I play. So, by my own view, if you were to make pvp optional, it would be as stupid as adding dwarves as the next race. Doesn't make sense to you? Because you obviously don't value EvE for what it is. You want it to be something very different. You'll hear suggestions from other players which might upset you. If someone suggests that you 'play another game', don't take it so hard. Many of us are not telling you that we don't like you or want you here. What we ARE telling you, however, is OBVIOUSLY EvE is not the game you really want to play. Instead of massively changing this game, please, find another which better suits you. It's selfishness, really. You think you want to play EvE, but you don't want to play EvE. You want to play something that kinda, sorta, maybe resembles EvE. You also don't care about those who love and enjoy the game as it currently is. A subscriber base that has continued to grow over the last six years. You want to change the game, so that YOU can play the something kinda, sorta, maybe like EvE, without actually having to play EvE. The harsh reality of EvE ... combat anywhere, vicious player interactions, that sort of thing? THAT IS EVE! That is what makes EvE unique. That is what will keep EvE afloat in the future, when other sci-fi games come on the market and take all those wishy-washy players who didn't really want to play EvE in the first place. Salute to you on finding a game that you want to play ... not a game that you want to change drastically so that you can enjoy it. I could not have said it half as well as this. PVP is optional, are we playing the same game? I was actually agreeing with Ruze's explanation to the OP as to why their reasons for wanting to change the game are bad. On another note, PvP is optional. Oddly enough, the "Consent" and "Undock" features are both tied to the same button. ------- Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
WonkySplitDemon United Nations Space Command Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:27:00 - [46] I have yet to see non-consenual pvp in highsec space... all pvp in empire has some form of consent whether it is taking the bait from a canflipper or actually arranging to 1 on 1 with somebody.. disagree with me on that one and i will fight you... UNSC- United Nations Space Command
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:29:00 - [47] Originally by: WonkySplitDemon I have yet to see non-consenual pvp in highsec space... all pvp in empire has some form of consent whether it is taking the bait from a canflipper or actually arranging to 1 on 1 with somebody.. disagree with me on that one and i will fight you... I take it you don't do anything worthy of getting war declared on you then. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN
WonkySplitDemon United Nations Space Command Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:30:00 - [48] Originally by: Schalac Originally by: WonkySplitDemon I have yet to see non-consenual pvp in highsec space... all pvp in empire has some form of consent whether it is taking the bait from a canflipper or actually arranging to 1 on 1 with somebody.. disagree with me on that one and i will fight you... I take it you don't do anything worthy of getting war declared on you then. No although that is my ultimate goal. any tips? UNSC- United Nations Space Command
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:33:00 - [49] Originally by: WonkySplitDemon Originally by: Schalac Originally by: WonkySplitDemon I have yet to see non-consenual pvp in highsec space... all pvp in empire has some form of consent whether it is taking the bait from a canflipper or actually arranging to 1 on 1 with somebody.. disagree with me on that one and i will fight you... I take it you don't do anything worthy of getting war declared on you then. No although that is my ultimate goal. any tips? Well I just disagreed with you so are you going to fight me now? SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN
WonkySplitDemon United Nations Space Command Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:34:00 - [50] Originally by: Schalac Originally by: WonkySplitDemon Originally by: Schalac Originally by: WonkySplitDemon I have yet to see non-consenual pvp in highsec space... all pvp in empire has some form of consent whether it is taking the bait from a canflipper or actually arranging to 1 on 1 with somebody.. disagree with me on that one and i will fight you... I take it you don't do anything worthy of getting war declared on you then. No although that is my ultimate goal. any tips? Well I just disagreed with you so are you going to fight me now? Roger that i have jack johnson and dr kenneth noisewater here and ill sock you in the mouth grandpa! UNSC- United Nations Space Command
Schalac Caldari Apocalypse Reign	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:37:00 - [51] Originally by: WonkySplitDemon Roger that i have jack johnson and dr kenneth noisewater here and ill sock you in the mouth grandpa! Well good luck doing that considering you aren't even online. So I'm going to log and go to bed. SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN
WonkySplitDemon United Nations Space Command Phoenix Rising Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.11 12:38:00 - [52] Originally by: Schalac Originally by: WonkySplitDemon Roger that i have jack johnson and dr kenneth noisewater here and ill sock you in the mouth grandpa! Well good luck doing that considering you aren't even online. So I'm going to log and go to bed. Goodnight scary cyber pirate, tell blackbeard i said hi! UNSC- United Nations Space Command

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