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Zora Xen	Posted - 2009.04.11 06:57:00 - [1] Prices for Marauders have jumped quite steeply in the last 3 months or so from roughly 700mil to 900mil give or take. I would have thought as more producers come online the price would stabilise, but it hasn't. Is it simply demand outstripping supply or some other market forces at work. Can anyone give some insight into this increase?
Amerilia	Posted - 2009.04.11 06:59:00 - [2] Edited by: Amerilia on 11/04/2009 06:59:05 The POS exploit made the prices low, as it got fixed T2 prices increase.
Avalon Champion Gallente Defence Evaluation Research Agency	Posted - 2009.04.11 07:02:00 - [3] Quite simply raw material prices have increased, eg Ferrogel 15-20%, Fermionic condensates 20-25%, though both are dropping the ship prices lag a little. Also builder might have started to price things correctly, and started taking invention costs into account.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.04.11 08:24:00 - [4] I'd strongly question anyone who considers a 28.6% increase as "jumped quite steeply". Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Artassaut Minmatar Oblivion Amalgamated	Posted - 2009.04.11 08:42:00 - [5] Originally by: F'nog I'd strongly question anyone who considers a 28.6% increase as "jumped quite steeply". If the stock market fell by 28.6%, you'd say it fell steeply. So why wouldn't it apply here? --- The Gate: Lol, try targeting me in a fleet fight. The Station: No U.
Secretary Phase	Posted - 2009.04.11 08:44:00 - [6] What Avalon said. And there may be a little increase in demand as there are quite a few of them being used for wormhole exploration where they an be lost, instead of pure misionunner pimpmobiles that never die...
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.04.11 08:58:00 - [7] Originally by: Artassaut Originally by: F'nog I'd strongly question anyone who considers a 28.6% increase as "jumped quite steeply". If the stock market fell by 28.6%, you'd say it fell steeply. So why wouldn't it apply here? It did more than that, and I didn't. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Dirk Magnum Royal Hiigaran Navy SCUM.	Posted - 2009.04.11 09:02:00 - [8] The T2 price jump was easily in the realm of 25%, and it made most T2 ships less than worth it for me and my broke ass. I mean really if you see me in a T2 ship it's gonna be something that I can afford to lose, but not something I can afford to replace. So yeah the T2 price jump is a bit nasty. Also I think people finally realized Marauders don't suck so that may have had something to do with the price jump too (even though the moon mining thing is what contributed the worst bit to it.)
BharkKoum Zeer Gallente Amarr Empire Research Copr	Posted - 2009.04.13 15:42:00 - [9] Corp invented a Vargur for a member. Gathering the prices for components for the BPC the cost of the ferrogel needed to make the components came to over 500 million (Jita prices). I think this might explain your increase in costs.
FlyinS Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization	Posted - 2009.04.13 15:47:00 - [10] Originally by: F'nog I'd strongly question anyone who considers a 28.6% increase as "jumped quite steeply". I'd strongly question anyone who doesn't consider a 28.6% cost increase as "jumped quite steeply". With regards to anything, game or life. Honestly, I can't fathom how a 9% per month (averaged) increase would not be considered "steep". Please explain.
rValdez5987 Amarr 32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment.	Posted - 2009.04.13 16:35:00 - [11] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Artassaut Originally by: F'nog I'd strongly question anyone who considers a 28.6% increase as "jumped quite steeply". If the stock market fell by 28.6%, you'd say it fell steeply. So why wouldn't it apply here? It did more than that, and I didn't. Lol then your just in denial
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.04.14 05:31:00 - [12] Originally by: FlyinS Originally by: F'nog I'd strongly question anyone who considers a 28.6% increase as "jumped quite steeply". I'd strongly question anyone who doesn't consider a 28.6% cost increase as "jumped quite steeply". With regards to anything, game or life. Honestly, I can't fathom how a 9% per month (averaged) increase would not be considered "steep". Please explain. A: This is a game, not life. B: It's still below the original prices people were willing to pay for them when they came out. C: There is a logical reason for the increase: 1) More people are playing the game; 2) More people have the money to spend on something they might consider frivolous; 3) More people are realizing they have good uses. So it's just supply and demand. The demand has gone up, while the supply hasn't. Anyone who remembers prices of 20mil for CR2s will understand how this isn't that big of a deal. If it gets to multi-billions of ISK for Marauders, then there's probably a problem - but one that can be corrected by more people pursuing invention. To rValdez: No, I'm a realist. I know that these things have happened before and civilization has survived. Thus I don't worry about things out of my control. I simply plan ahead for ways to take advantage of them, or ways to work within the parameters available. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said Originally by: Chribba Go F'nog! You're a hero! Not a Zero! /me bows
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.04.14 05:32:00 - [13] tech 2 materials supplier gone out of business? Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 6Apr09
Tom Sasaki	Posted - 2009.04.14 06:46:00 - [14] Goons & Friends control the majority of the highend Dyspro moons in eve now and they are gauging the rest of us. More or less every single T2 item is gradually having a price increase and it can all be traced back to the rise in moon mineral prices. The reason marauders are happening early is simple , it was never a big market to begin with , while for modules and ships that have a high number of sellorders sitting around Eve it will take more time to see the price increase.
Brutor'Man X Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.04.14 06:59:00 - [15] Wonder if Nightmares will go up in responce to the increase. Can't have an uber faction ship cheaper than its t2 class counterpart after all.
Avalon Champion Gallente Defence Evaluation Research Agency	Posted - 2009.04.14 07:12:00 - [16] Originally by: Tom Sasaki Goons & Friends control the majority of the highend Dyspro moons in eve now and they are gauging the rest of us. More or less every single T2 item is gradually having a price increase and it can all be traced back to the rise in moon mineral prices. Mainly this, it takes time to get the reactions from the R32/R64 moons backup and running at full capacity (and its not there yet, maybe 75% cap), with the taking of delve there was a drop off in production as goons killed the Kenny mining towers, and put up there own. This was reflected in material prices, which peaked at between 75-90% higher about a 2 weeks ago, Ferrogel and fermionic peaked at 50k and 120K respectively, not they're falling back being around 45K and 90K respectively.
Evilempire1 Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.04.14 13:20:00 - [17] I blame Ex President Bush
Pres Obama	Posted - 2009.04.14 14:00:00 - [18] I did it. Sorry.
123GuessWho	Posted - 2009.04.14 14:21:00 - [19] T2 ships finally generate profit now Good thing i stocked up on them back when components where still cheap
Lindsay Logan	Posted - 2009.04.14 14:42:00 - [20] The exploit was one factor, but there are more factors as well. BoB loosing all its space in two weeks made supply go down as well somewhat. And that fact that folks are willing to buy overprices stuff is another factor.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.04.14 15:50:00 - [21] Marauders cost as much as they cost now because the manufacture price has increased. Manufacture price has increased because dysprosium price has increased. Dysprosium price has increased because the POS exploit got fixed and alchemy is still a very lousy alternative. ...simple, isn't it ? _ The problem with EVE \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
FlyinS Caldari Planetary Industry and Trade Organization	Posted - 2009.04.14 16:12:00 - [22] Originally by: F'nog A: This is a game, not life. B: It's still below the original prices people were willing to pay for them when they came out. C: There is a logical reason for the increase: 1) More people are playing the game; 2) More people have the money to spend on something they might consider frivolous; 3) More people are realizing they have good uses. So it's just supply and demand. The demand has gone up, while the supply hasn't. Anyone who remembers prices of 20mil for CR2s will understand how this isn't that big of a deal. If it gets to multi-billions of ISK for Marauders, then there's probably a problem - but one that can be corrected by more people pursuing invention. A) No kidding. No one said otherwise. Very irrelevant point though. My reference to life was to simply state that a 28.6% increase over the course of 3 months, in any economy (including a game or in life) is a steep increase. There's no logical reason to believe otherwise. B) Another irrelevant point. When a new (technology) product is introduced it will typically come out at a high price because of the initial limited supply combined with the initial high demand by those that can afford it. It doesn't change that once the price normalizes, if there is a 9% monthly increase suddenly this would be considered "steep". C) Of course there's a reason for the increase. There's always going to be a reason and most often, barring mass collusion, it will be supply and demand related. It still doesn't change the fact of it being a steep increase in price. In other words, you're still not giving any reason why the increase should not be considered steep.
Ghoest	Posted - 2009.04.14 17:20:00 - [23] Dude you were trolled. Wherever you went - Here you are.

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