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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
176
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Posted - 2012.05.04 04:15:00 -
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http://www.evenews24.com/2012/05/03/insight-the-other-cost-of-war/
How much does Eve luv your corp? Please everyone put an end to inflation & declare war on the Goons so the WarDec ISK sink eleminates all inflation  Unintentional bug Working as IntendedGäó |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
509
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Posted - 2012.05.04 04:19:00 -
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It's okay CCP keeps telling me that they fixed dec shields.
Oh wait, now everyone has a dec shield by default. |

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1444
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Posted - 2012.05.04 04:21:00 -
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I approve of those reasons.
I'd approve twice as much if they were 8.52 billion reasons... |

Benny Ohu
The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy
105
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Posted - 2012.05.04 04:28:00 -
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OH MY GOD THERE'S A NEW EVE NEWS ARTICLE
quick make a forum post don't bother using search or even checking the first page
write a couple of lines to make it look like i put effort into my posting
put a goon-ccp-iracy bit in there that should get me some spaselieks |

Shaampoo
Epidemic. F0RCEFUL ENTRY
18
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Posted - 2012.05.04 04:42:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:http://www.evenews24.com/2012/05/03/insight-the-other-cost-of-war/ How much does Eve luv your corp? Please everyone put an end to inflation & declare war on the Goons so the WarDec ISK sink eleminates all inflation 
I feel like this is a move away from the current system where it is just a way to pvp in high back to more of a " You offended me prepare to die" move
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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
364
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Posted - 2012.05.04 04:59:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:http://www.evenews24.com/2012/05/03/insight-the-other-cost-of-war/ How much does Eve luv your corp? Please everyone put an end to inflation & declare war on the Goons so the WarDec ISK sink eleminates all inflation 
Because teh goonies are so concerned by high sec wardecs, I'll tell you what. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2337
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:02:00 -
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Why are people so upset about this? CCP has already said it's the unchanged old formula, since they hadn't finished implementing the new system yet. Granted the new one might be crap too, but at least let them put it on the test server before raging about it. |

Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:08:00 -
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Who really gives a flying **** about Goons and wardecs? What high sec corp is ever going to wardec the Goons anyway? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
556
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:10:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:OH MY GOD THERE'S A NEW EVE NEWS ARTICLE
quick make a forum post don't bother using search or even checking the first page
write a couple of lines to make it look like i put effort into my posting
put a goon-ccp-iracy bit in there that should get me some spaselieks Man, you just spoiled the whole veo forums, why did you do that? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
364
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:10:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Who really gives a flying **** about Goons and wardecs? What high sec corp is ever going to wardec the Goons anyway?
Only the ones that camp the Jita undock looking for an easy JF kill. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
556
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:11:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Who really gives a flying **** about Goons and wardecs? What high sec corp is ever going to wardec the Goons anyway? Moar Tears.
0rphanage
NOIR.
They can't make money camping Jita like this ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
803
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:11:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Who really gives a flying **** about Goons and wardecs? There's this underlying subtext involving inferiority issues and class conflict in a video game lol |

Markus Reese
Debitum Naturae ROMANIAN-LEGION
161
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:19:00 -
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I concur, who cares about the highsec part of it really, I mean aside from what ever will Moar tears do? The real advantage will more be for it any of the tiny highsec corps start banding up to make the continual war declarations hopefully less feasable. yeah it is mechanic and all, but if those highsec peeps build my ships and get money to ccp, I can tolerate more in their favour. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6386
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:19:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Why are people so upset about this? CCP has already said it's the unchanged old formula, since they hadn't finished implementing the new system yet. Granted the new one might be crap too, but at least let them put it on the test server before raging about it. Nah. There's no need to test it to know it's awful. It's just a formula GÇö it is a theorycrafting product and can be criticised through theorycrafting.
As always, it's better to rage before they do something stupid in the hopes that they'll realise the stupidity before they waste too much time on it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:20:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Who really gives a flying **** about Goons and wardecs? What high sec corp is ever going to wardec the Goons anyway? Moar Tears. 0rphanage NOIR. They can't make money camping Jita like this ~~
They don't need a wardec to fight Goons, all they have to do is fly into Goon held space and they can fight them all they want - no wardec needed. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
556
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:31:00 -
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Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Saia Tae Arragosa wrote:Who really gives a flying **** about Goons and wardecs? What high sec corp is ever going to wardec the Goons anyway? Moar Tears. 0rphanage NOIR. They can't make money camping Jita like this ~~ They don't need a wardec to fight Goons, all they have to do is fly into Goon held space and they can fight them all they want - no wardec needed. They need a wardec to catch freighters undocking in Jita 4-4. Not sure why they care so much, since I assume everyone uses NPC corp alts for that.
You think they were looking for fights? Well they'll have a spiel for you about how they don't blob, they solo fight with their 5 RemoteRep alts....
Well, Boat's primary skill is called Summon Fleet. He has it to rank 5 as well  Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Cloned S0ul
Blood Fanatics
32
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:31:00 -
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Fuuu CCP. |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
582
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:34:00 -
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It costs me 54billion isk a month to run my alliance's infrastructure and logistics.
As it stands, an empire griefer alliance can shut that down for pocket change. A few dudes looking to kill unguarded ships who don't fire back isn't what war declarations intention was when they were introduced.
The people who are upset are the ones who declare war against entities to grief their pilots, not actually fight them in empire.
This fix to a broken mechanic is long over due.
It's not rocket surgery. |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
582
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:35:00 -
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Maybe now, empire griefer corps will put together proper fleets, come to null sec and fight us for real instead of hiding behind broken empire mechanics.
It's not rocket surgery. |

Saia Tae Arragosa
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:42:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Maybe now, empire griefer corps will put together proper fleets, come to null sec and fight us for real instead of hiding behind broken empire mechanics.
Exactly. |

Doctor Benway Kado
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:46:00 -
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You're mad about that? I would have thought you'd be more mad about wars following a pilot, and spreading to the rest of the corporation he joins.
Imagine... on Thursday we wardec Eve Uni, and by Friday it spreads to everyone coming and going in Jita. A Burning without CONCORD in the way... |

Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
35
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:47:00 -
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i see this new wardec system will get out of hand. the little guys will be screwed in the 10 to 1 odds and not in their favor. there should be a penalty on said corp/alliance wardecing a small group. otherwise you just get them to station spin and skill up. you may see the NPC corps grow in numbers.
The only ones that can wardec a large alliance is not feesible. CCP what are you thinking? You plan on killing your love child or something? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
556
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Posted - 2012.05.04 05:52:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:The only ones that can wardec a large alliance is not feesible. CCP what are you thinking? You plan on killing your love child or something? Wait, CCP had a love child? Please explain. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Liam Mirren
509
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Posted - 2012.05.04 06:03:00 -
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What, are you trying to say that the DEVS working on the warddec changes (same for the aggression changes for that matter, I love flashy pods I'm not allowed to shoot) don't have a clue on what they're doing and have been taking "advice" from the CSM who for the most part are 0.0 dwellers?
Surely not! Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
My guides: http://mirren.freeforums.org |

Sendo Jarix
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
51
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Posted - 2012.05.04 06:04:00 -
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Dumb spergs everywhere, CCP already said the version of the war dec system that is on SiSi is old and that a new one will be rolled out soon. They have also mentioned looking at either putting a cap on the total cost or having it non-linear so I'd imagine one of these two things will be included in the update version. |

FlameGlow
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
65
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Posted - 2012.05.04 06:10:00 -
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Want more legal targets - pay more bribes to CONCORD, seems logical. And since price gets directly proportional target size those jita 4-4 campers can wardec someone new instead of rotating through same old top 20 by size alliances. :) |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
6389
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Posted - 2012.05.04 06:36:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:Maybe now, empire griefer corps will put together proper fleets, come to null sec and fight us for real instead of hiding behind broken empire mechanics. No. This change promotes the exact opposite.
Quote:As it stands, an empire griefer alliance can shut that down for pocket change. GǪand with a proper cost formula, that could still be avoided without giving you a free decshield. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Find more rants over at Tippis' Rants. |

Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
498
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:09:00 -
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looks like a proper isk sink to me. Even if 6 guys wanted to wardec goons for example, you are sayin they cant come up with 4bil? Stop doing lvl 3s you are doing it way wrong. I have more space likes than you.-á |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
563
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Zagdul wrote:Maybe now, empire griefer corps will put together proper fleets, come to null sec and fight us for real instead of hiding behind broken empire mechanics. No. This change promotes the exact opposite. Quote:As it stands, an empire griefer alliance can shut that down for pocket change. GǪand with a proper cost formula, that could still be avoided without giving you a free decshield. Should've just given the miners and such invulnerability or made ganking an exploit. That would really have done it.
And trit would have become SO MUCH CHEAPER. Seriously, that would be great ... ohohohohohoh Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
137
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Posted - 2012.05.04 07:23:00 -
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Goonswarm coming out in support of inflated wardec costs for big corps. What a surprise. |
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