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Arhcyre	Posted - 2009.04.13 11:15:00 - [1] Edited by: Arhcyre on 13/04/2009 11:17:10 Just looking on EVEMon, and it says that it will take me 68d 16h to learn BS V! Is this correct? Seems like an insanely long skill! I'm trying to formulate a training plan for me to progress to a Thanatos... that adds a massive chunk into the time it will take. Anyone got any suggestions please? (accidentally posted on alt :S sorry)
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.04.13 11:29:00 - [2] A couple of things: 1. Why do you want a Thanatos? Your question indicates that you're a new player who have yet to fully understand the roles of the various ships. A carrier is something you use in large corp fleets to provide logistics, transportation and fire support. It's not a ship you use — it's a ship your corp fleet uses with you at the helm. 2. If you actually do want to use carriers, Battleship V is the least of your problems. You also need to consider just about every support skill in the book (to V), most drone skills (to V), all navigation and jumping skills (to V), most logistics skills (to V:ish). You're looking at probably a year or two worth of training before you can actually make even half-way decent use of that thing — a single skill (even at rank 8) is a drop in the ocean. 3. It's that long because your attributes are low — get some implants and/or train your learning skills. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Viggen Caldari The Lunatic Asylum Notorious Organization of Brothers	Posted - 2009.04.13 11:30:00 - [3] Give us more details. Have you trained the pre-reqs for BS yet? Frig and Cruiser to lvl 4 etc. What are your attributes? If you havent trained any of the skills needed to start training BS yet and have poor attributes then 68d would be about right.
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.04.13 14:03:00 - [4] Is this character going to be a carrier-babysitting-alt ? In that case, minimal skills are sufficient, otherwise... don't even think about Carriers yet, dream about them and focus on some more short term goals for now... and train the bloody support skills. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Dark Soldat Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.13 14:36:00 - [5] Originally by: Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Is this character going to be a carrier-babysitting-alt ? In that case, minimal skills are sufficient, otherwise... don't even think about Carriers yet, dream about them and focus on some more short term goals for now... and train the bloody support skills. Why on earth would you need a carrier baby sitting alt??
Makumba Blue	Posted - 2009.04.13 15:23:00 - [6] Originally by: Dark Soldat Why on earth would you need a carrier baby sitting alt?? To baby sit mothersheeps.
FOl2TY8 Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.04.13 20:00:00 - [7] Although I haven't trained it yet, Gallente BS V will take me 29 days. You need to take a look at your base attributes, learning skills and implants. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve
Angelos Gateway Industries	Posted - 2009.04.14 03:13:00 - [8] Originally by: Dark Soldat Originally by: Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Is this character going to be a carrier-babysitting-alt ? In that case, minimal skills are sufficient, otherwise... don't even think about Carriers yet, dream about them and focus on some more short term goals for now... and train the bloody support skills. Why on earth would you need a carrier baby sitting alt?? So your main can go off on adventures without leaving the carrier parked in space? The alt jumps in, logs out, carrier goes away.
Horchan Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.14 03:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Angelos So your main can go off on adventures without leaving the carrier parked in space? The alt jumps in, logs out, carrier goes away. Or you could just park your carrier in a station like any sensible player. Unless you're talking about a mothership, which isn't something any new player should be aiming for in the first place... --- DesuSigs
Ami Nia Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.14 05:14:00 - [10] Originally by: Horchan Originally by: Angelos So your main can go off on adventures without leaving the carrier parked in space? The alt jumps in, logs out, carrier goes away. Or you could just park your carrier in a station like any sensible player. Unless you're talking about a mothership, which isn't something any new player should be aiming for in the first place... Neither is a carrier. Military experts call it a Templar, a fighter drone used by Amarr carriers. -- Sheriff Jones apochribba -- Aurora Morgan

Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.04.14 07:40:00 - [11] TouchT. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2009.04.14 11:45:00 - [12] Originally by: FOl2TY8 Although I haven't trained it yet, Gallente BS V will take me 29 days. You need to take a look at your base attributes, learning skills and implants. 27 days for me. OP needs to remap and train some learning skills to reduce that number.
BlackMatrix Gallente Green Planet Industries	Posted - 2009.04.14 12:17:00 - [13] Thats pretty much correct with no skills. Get some implants Then train learning skills Then train BS 5 http://blackmatrix.org.uk
Hull Blaster Gallente Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2009.04.14 17:18:00 - [14] Hey, this is my main the OP character will be a babysitter for cyno's etc when I get up there, possibly covert ops. I always wanted to pilot a carrier, and being Gallente the Thanatos seems the obvious choice. Anyway, I'm flying a Megathron at the moment, so skills wise whilst not great its ok. I haven't got implants yet admittedly I've not explored that feature although I plan on doing so shortly. I've got Learning to V and other skills to III - IV, should I max out learning skills? I know the carriers aren't solo ships, but I intend to move into 0.0 alliances by the time I'm "ready" to pilot a capital. I'm getting a few skills to level V at the moment which will last about 3 to 4 weeks, after which I'm guessing I should focus on maxing out my Learning skills yeah? For attributes I focused on memory/perception/intelligence. With Charisma and Willpower being payed less attention.
FOl2TY8 Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.04.14 17:40:00 - [15] I would definitely get yourself a set of +3's. They are not that expensive and take no time at all to train up for. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.14 18:08:00 - [16] Originally by: Hull Blaster Hey, this is my main the OP character will be a babysitter for cyno's etc when I get up there, possibly covert ops. I always wanted to pilot a carrier, and being Gallente the Thanatos seems the obvious choice. Anyway, I'm flying a Megathron at the moment, so skills wise whilst not great its ok. I haven't got implants yet admittedly I've not explored that feature although I plan on doing so shortly. I've got Learning to V and other skills to III - IV, should I max out learning skills? I know the carriers aren't solo ships, but I intend to move into 0.0 alliances by the time I'm "ready" to pilot a capital. I'm getting a few skills to level V at the moment which will last about 3 to 4 weeks, after which I'm guessing I should focus on maxing out my Learning skills yeah? For attributes I focused on memory/perception/intelligence. With Charisma and Willpower being payed less attention. You might also want to consider that your first carrier will cost you about 2.5 billion ISK to undock...
Jainia Soltella	Posted - 2009.04.14 18:34:00 - [17] Also... there is no reason to wait until you can pilot a capital to join a 0.0 Corp/Alliance. If anything do it while it is cheap to lose ships/clones. Nullsec is a very different place from empire and it takes time to learn the ropes. Better to do that when you are losing cruisers or battleships and not capitals Check out Agony Empire, or The Graduates (0.0 spin off of Eve Uni). Both are solid groups and 0.0 newbie friendly.
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2009.04.14 18:40:00 - [18] Originally by: Arhcyre Edited by: Arhcyre on 13/04/2009 11:17:10 Just looking on EVEMon, and it says that it will take me 68d 16h to learn BS V! Is this correct? Seems like an insanely long skill! I'm trying to formulate a training plan for me to progress to a Thanatos... that adds a massive chunk into the time it will take. Anyone got any suggestions please? (accidentally posted on alt :S sorry) As so many have mentioned, you need high on Perception and willpower plus the learning skills relatively high to get that skill down on a decent time. I know that learning skills are boring to train, but they are worth it! Also you are thinking of carriers.. a few tip: 1. The neccesary carrier skills are just a absolute minimum! But so should the support skills too be really for carriers! And those needs to be high! 2. Carriers are like a shining beacon on a very dark night! It is seen by "everyone" and a lonely carrier is just plain and simple DEAD! 3. Finance. its costy. Its expensive! Before buying a carrier you should ask yourself this question: Can I be "survive" the loss of 2,5 billion isk? If yes? Then sure, go ahead! If not.. Then you should not buy it! 4. Usage. Do you really have use for it? Carriers are corp/alliance support ships. They are nice to deploy during wartime. The carrier gives support to the combat ships, and the combat ships give "protection" to the carriers. A carrier without some protection is usually dead. Although if there are any carrier ships that can take care of itself it must be the Thanatos, mainly because of the large Drone capasity. But dont take my words on this for granted. Even after 3,5 years in EVE I dont fly capships myself... My suggestions: Train learning skills Train ship skills (Battleship is a good choice, but so it frigates and cruisers etc.) Train support skills etc. But if you have a main character and want to throw this into a fully blown carrier pilot.. sure! Go ahed! But dont forget the support skills! You will need em! Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
Hull Blaster Gallente Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2009.04.14 20:33:00 - [19] Yeah, after looking at the training plan EVEMon managed to throw together automatically for me, it turns out there are quite a few optional "extras" in there. A lot of EW skills and leadership, presumably for fleet bonuses as a support vessel. Being a support ship is what makes me drawn to carriers, I know their DPS wont be GREAT... id get a Morros if I wanted that :P, I just like the idea of being a logistics/support ship whilst having the firepower with fighters and hoards of drones :D. I've got a long way to go before I fly a carrier, at least a year if I train the skills properly... I just wanted to find out why that skill was going to take so long! Thanks for the replies.
GyokZoli Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.15 14:43:00 - [20] Originally by: Hull Blaster Yeah, after looking at the training plan EVEMon managed to throw together automatically for me, it turns out there are quite a few optional "extras" in there. A lot of EW skills and leadership, presumably for fleet bonuses as a support vessel. Being a support ship is what makes me drawn to carriers, I know their DPS wont be GREAT... id get a Morros if I wanted that :P, I just like the idea of being a logistics/support ship whilst having the firepower with fighters and hoards of drones :D. I've got a long way to go before I fly a carrier, at least a year if I train the skills properly... I just wanted to find out why that skill was going to take so long! Thanks for the replies. Evemon never put optional extras into the plan. Either you did it or they are required skills for the ship you are planning to fly.

Hull Blaster Gallente Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2009.04.15 16:57:00 - [21] Oh ok, there must have been some that I missed... or were prerequisites for some of the other skills...


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