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Krajik	Posted - 2009.04.15 12:48:00 - [1] Okay, so I played back in 2006 or so, and restarted a few weeks ago. Seems that there are three prevailing theories. 1) The belts are on about a 24hr-ish timer, and will respawn independantly of daily downtime/maintenance. 2) The belts respawn as part of maintenance and no other time. 3) The belts respawn as part of maintenance as well as around 24hrs. So, which is it? I'm sick of getting conflicting answers. Thanks!
TheLordofAllandNothing	Posted - 2009.04.15 13:16:00 - [2] The belts are only as big as chribba wants them to be
RedSplat Heretic Army	Posted - 2009.04.15 13:23:00 - [3] The only limiting factor in belt respawn is how many Macro gangs there are in your region. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.04.15 13:47:00 - [4] From my experience in various regions, the belts appear to respawn after the Monday and Friday morning downtimes. How long they last is inversely proportional to the number of Hulks roaming your area of space. --Vel Originally by: Liang Nuren 10 shots really makes me a sad panda
k'nah Manaan Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.15 13:56:00 - [5] Originally by: De'Veldrin From my experience in various regions, the belts appear to respawn after the Monday and Friday morning downtimes. How long they last is inversely proportional to the number of Hulks roaming your area of space. This is correct
ingenting 20th Legion	Posted - 2009.04.15 14:11:00 - [6] 0.0 = 2 days/week. _________________ - "Welcome to EVE, remember to insu BAAOOM... Told you, newb."
Xessej	Posted - 2009.04.15 14:20:00 - [7] There are at least two seperate respawning systems. For most of space belts respawn after downtime on Monday and Friday. The only exception I've ever seen is that constellations with 1.0 and 0.9 systems respawn every day at downtime.
Edith Bunker	Posted - 2009.04.15 16:01:00 - [8] Originally by: De'Veldrin From my experience in various regions, the belts appear to respawn after the Monday and Friday morning downtimes. How long they last is inversely proportional to the number of Hulks roaming your area of space. This is correct. And I wish they would add a Wednesday.
Vorxion Caldari	Posted - 2009.04.16 00:41:00 - [9] Edited by: Vorxion on 16/04/2009 00:41:41 Originally by: k'nah Manaan Originally by: De'Veldrin From my experience in various regions, the belts appear to respawn after the Monday and Friday morning downtimes. How long they last is inversely proportional to the number of Hulks roaming your area of space. This is correct That would be a negative. We've had respawns every day, including "today" (Wednesday morning). EDIT: 0.7 systems, two of them. -- Vorxion
Tkar vonBiggendorf Gallente Snake Eyes Inc	Posted - 2009.04.16 01:32:00 - [10] I see Veld/Scord respawn daily at DT in most systems, with rarer ores only on Friday/Sunday. (Yeah, I've noticed it on Sunday, not Monday.) Respawns do happen at DT, that much is confirmed. The underlying mechanics of how much what respawns where on which day, the Devs won't say. It's all up to personal observation. I promise nothingÖ. --CCP Prism X
M'iranna	Posted - 2009.04.16 08:06:00 - [11] Originally by: De'Veldrin From my experience in various regions, the belts appear to respawn after the Monday and Friday morning downtimes. How long they last is inversely proportional to the number of Hulks roaming your area of space. So you are one of those persons who thinks everyone lives in the US?
Tallaran Kouros Caldari Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.16 09:12:00 - [12] Originally by: M'iranna Originally by: De'Veldrin From my experience in various regions, the belts appear to respawn after the Monday and Friday morning downtimes. How long they last is inversely proportional to the number of Hulks roaming your area of space. So you are one of those persons who thinks everyone lives in the US? What makes you say that? I live in the UK and from my perspective, downtime happens in the morning too :)
Lord Fitz Project Amargosa	Posted - 2009.04.16 14:08:00 - [13] Edited by: Lord Fitz on 16/04/2009 14:11:18 Belts respawn(or grow) twice weekly, Monday and Friday downtimes. The amount that they grow by, is dependent on the amount that has been mined in that constellation. Constellations that contain 1.0 / 0.9 sec systems, respawn daily during downtimes. - This is the exception which leads to people wondering why their 0.7 system (which is in the same constellation as a 1.0/0.9 sec system), respawns daily. I can tell you my 0.7 system not in such a constellation, respawns Monday and Friday downtimes.
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services Novus Ordo Mundi	Posted - 2009.06.24 18:03:00 - [14] Ok here a Question! I mined out the whole system once of 18 belts! on Friday after DT. We have cleared out Every single roid in the system and yet After Saturday DT It respawn big roids! Now I was confused to why the big respawn but then I noticed some system in the region spawn a few big ones as well. So now I am confused about the behavior of the respawn! Is there a site with good facts on the roids respawn rates etc?
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.24 18:25:00 - [15] Originally by: M'iranna Originally by: De'Veldrin From my experience in various regions, the belts appear to respawn after the Monday and Friday morning downtimes. How long they last is inversely proportional to the number of Hulks roaming your area of space. So you are one of those persons who thinks everyone lives in the US? 11.00-12.00 on a 24 hours clock is morning. So DT is morning serverside.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.06.24 19:25:00 - [16] I recently noticed that, just recently, the rocks spawning in my local belts are huge. I mean Veldspar in the 100k range. And not just one or two of them. Anyone know why this is? Was there a change in the respawn amounts? --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.06.24 19:26:00 - [17] Originally by: M'iranna Originally by: De'Veldrin From my experience in various regions, the belts appear to respawn after the Monday and Friday morning downtimes. How long they last is inversely proportional to the number of Hulks roaming your area of space. So you are one of those persons who thinks everyone lives in the US? Yes, in much the same way that you are one of those persons who is a dumbass. --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.
Zoltar Caldari Perdu Opus	Posted - 2009.06.25 05:05:00 - [18] Originally by: De'Veldrin I recently noticed that, just recently, the rocks spawning in my local belts are huge. I mean Veldspar in the 100k range. And not just one or two of them. Anyone know why this is? Was there a change in the respawn amounts? I have noticed a bit of a change too, I just thought I was getting lucky because I didnt see a thread about it.
Wackie Chan	Posted - 2009.06.25 05:37:00 - [19] Originally by: De'Veldrin I recently noticed that, just recently, the rocks spawning in my local belts are huge. I mean Veldspar in the 100k range. And not just one or two of them. Anyone know why this is? Was there a change in the respawn amounts? I've noticed that as well scanned a belt was getting Concentrated, Dense, and Regular Veld ranging from 55k to 100k+. That's not the only thing I've noticed if you scan regularly you kinda get the feel of what a normal rock's unit count is for example veld varies from 19k-29k (all types) but I looked at the other rocks to see if they changed as well and they did as well Scord anywhere from 25k to 36k (all types) Pyroxeres (All Types)(16k-25k) Kernite (All Types)(12k-15k). The thing is thou it was only one belt that was like that no others were that large. My normal belt that I've been hitting has Veld (all types) around 40k-60k with the other types slightly larger but not gigantic like those. As to answer if this is a regularly mined system yes it's mined quite frequently and depleted as to that fact as well. As far as daily respawn yes i've mined the same belt and all the rocks I mine respawn with the same or close to unit count.
Daveion Steel Gallente 6thsense Corp	Posted - 2009.06.25 06:51:00 - [20] I also have to say the respawns have appeared to have at least doubled, maybe still twice per week, but with more added love. Few weeks ago I hardly ever saw a Veld roid over 45k, now approx 50% are ranging from 80K to over 100K. This is also happeneing to all the other Rocks, I am seeing Plag at over 30K and ombar at 10K and more, something I do not think I have seen for .... well since before the Orca. D... Ps, Evo forums time out is also appearing to be getting shorter. . Linkage
Sanguis Sanies Amarr	Posted - 2009.06.25 08:18:00 - [21] There are two systems that I mine in, both have no stations, I have my "Base" -> 0.5 system - > 0.6 system consecutively, as the 0.5 system is right next door that tends to get mined out within about three or four days, the 0.6 system on the other hand is two jumps away from a station so no-one mines there (except me and one or two others) the 0.6 system has HUGE roids, and lots of them, I mined more Veldspar in one belt in one day then I would normally do in the whole 0.5 system in one week. Yesterday I did about 7 Jetcans worth of Dense (1/2 Can), Concentrated (2 Cans) and Vanilla Veldspar (4 CANS!!) with the smallest roid being about 35k and the biggest around 140k, the day before that I mined Kernite in the exact same belt; No Fiery, 2 cans of luminous, and 4 cans of Vanilla (which I can sell as a mission ore at around 400isk p/u so that's 36 mil isk right there!) today I'm going to go into the EXACT SAME BELT (Still!) and mine out all the scordite (another 6 odd cans worth). once I've done that I'll start all over again at the next spawn. Bearing in mind that there are about 7 or 8 belts in the system, which I've yet to touch (in fact I haven't even seen most of them) Originally by: De'Veldrin I recently noticed that, just recently, the rocks spawning in my local belts are huge. I mean Veldspar in the 100k range. And not just one or two of them. Anyone know why this is? Was there a change in the respawn amounts? The 0.5 system above will usually have about 7 people in it with about 4 mining, 2 in support and 1 or 2 passing through, the 0.6 system with the big roids will usually only have me in it and one or two passing through. If the system is being regularly mined out then the roids don't get a chance to grow, having the roids untouched (even for one DT) lets them grow bigger. Have you noticed a drop in the number of regular miners? less miners means the roids can grow much bigger, so maybe you lucked out and others have moved on leaving all the big roids for you. I don't think that CCP would change the respawn rates that drastically without at least a dev blog as, lets face it, bigger roids is a bigger change to mining than the Orca was and that got it's own expansion.
Wackie Chan	Posted - 2009.06.25 09:01:00 - [22] I've noticed as well that the "green bar" price of trit has went down so I guess that would explain the less miners theory in the system I mine in. Doesn't bother me any I just hold til it goes up or place it in the market either way I still make more than just quick sell or get a frieghter then anywhere is possible (very slowly that is, lol).
Eowyn Ratih Indicium Technologies	Posted - 2009.06.25 10:55:00 - [23] I noticed the same thing inthe Everyshore region. The rocks are at least 30% bigger. I thought respawns only took place on Mondays and Fridays, but yesterday I noticed the belt I stripped completely during Monday/Tuesday, did respawn in it's total glory on Wednessday??? So there's no longer a 2 times a week frequency here? If not, what's the new respawn frequency and why were we not informed by CCP about this change? I can't find anything except a few topics about this.
Clansworth Farstrider Industries MARS WARFARE CENTRE	Posted - 2009.06.25 11:36:00 - [24] well, respawn mechanics have NEVER been publicly released by ccp. the information is all reverse engineered by players. Therefore, there is no obligation for them to publicize any changes to it, if said changes have indeed been introduced.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.06.25 12:57:00 - [25] Originally by: Clansworth well, respawn mechanics have NEVER been publicly released by ccp. the information is all reverse engineered by players. Therefore, there is no obligation for them to publicize any changes to it, if said changes have indeed been introduced. QFT. Honeslty, I think they went in and made some changes - my supposition would be the economics guy suggested it to try and straighten out the minerals market, but that is completely a guess. At any rate, I'm mining all the large rocks I can find for as long as they last. Never know when they'll decide to put it back like it was. --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.
Eowyn Ratih Indicium Technologies	Posted - 2009.06.25 12:58:00 - [26] Edited by: Eowyn Ratih on 25/06/2009 12:59:48 So, when I understand this well, and by reading this topic more then once... the respawns are still twice a week but the amount of ore is triggered by as many (potential) miners there are (or visited for a certain period of time) in that star system? Interesting... Then I'll keep on mining, to trigger as many respawns as I need.
Eowyn Ratih Indicium Technologies	Posted - 2009.06.25 13:16:00 - [27] Edited by: Eowyn Ratih on 25/06/2009 13:17:24 Originally by: De'Veldrin QFT. Honeslty, I think they went in and made some changes - my supposition would be the economics guy suggested it to try and straighten out the minerals market, but that is completely a guess. At any rate, I'm mining all the large rocks I can find for as long as they last. Never know when they'll decide to put it back like it was. I was just thinking the same thing yesterday evening... I only hope this isn't so, that the CCP economist is just "trying" something. Bigger roids, more minerals on the market... This could have a huge impact on our selling prices, on the whole economy. I already saw tritanium and mexallon go down in 1 evening for about 0.25 ISK/unit. Haven't checked the prices yet today. I only hope they didn't fall any further... If the economist is "playing a game" with the amount of ore in the asteroid belts, he's playing a very dangerous game, I guess.
Beldaws Gallente Maniac Miners	Posted - 2009.06.25 13:49:00 - [28] I've been trying to strip a single belt in my .5 system with two hulks for the last two days and so far haven't been able to do it. The rocks are HUGE and growing more than the twice a week that they used to grow.
Lord Fitz Project Amargosa	Posted - 2009.06.25 14:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Clansworth well, respawn mechanics have NEVER been publicly released by ccp. the information is all reverse engineered by players. Therefore, there is no obligation for them to publicize any changes to it, if said changes have indeed been introduced. Except that they've always publicly released when they're making changes to this sort of thing, maybe not in the news, but at least in a dev post or patch notes. There's no reason for them not to. Also in case some people missed it: Quote: Constellations that contain 1.0 / 0.9 sec systems, respawn daily during downtimes. All others, Monday, Friday, Downtimes. Amount that respawns is based upon all that mined in that constellation, so if people are mining more in other, say, station less systems in your constellation than usual, more will be respawning in your system.
De'Veldrin Minmatar Special Projects Executive	Posted - 2009.06.25 15:16:00 - [30] Originally by: Lord Fitz Amount that respawns is based upon all that mined in that constellation, so if people are mining more in other, say, station less systems in your constellation than usual, more will be respawning in your system. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm also not sure that's the whole story. Up until about a week ago, spawns in the system I normally mine in were in what I would cosider the "normal" range. Veldspar went up to about 30k, Omber was in the 6-9k range, Plag in 10-13k, etc. This week, I'm getting Veldspar in the 80-90k range and larger. And checking the people in the nearby systems shows there are actually fewer people mining than in the past. And I discount that as the reason because I usually hop on right after downtime for an hour's mining so I generally see them right after they respawn before the hulk-omatics get a crack at them. It used to be that the system I am in would be devoid of ore worth mining by Thursday afternoon prior to Friday's downtime. I've been mining in the same belt every day this week in a Hulk and haven't managed to significantly dent it. Something has obviously changed in the respawn rates. --Vel Experience is what you get right after you need it.

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