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Ocih
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Posted - 2012.05.06 22:01:00 -
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Using mining as an example, ship spinners who use the forums to entertain themselves use dumbass ideas like 'Mine aligned' because it works in missions or null bear belt ratting. A Hulk can be as aligned as it wants, it won't get to warp speed before the lock and insta volley kills it. Even with perfect nav skills that won't happen. No logistics will save it from death either. The dps stucture is designed to kill any ship without a buffer tank and barges don't have buffer tanks.
To the OP's point, its like this in all ships of EVE. What are the chances of a true battleship being slowly eaten by a frigate? None, no chance in hell. In EVE? It's very easy to lose a battleship to a frigate. It just takes an eternity of structure grind.
T3 is in fact the adaptation. When CCP implement T3 as an all and any hull augmentation, then we will be able to bonus fit any ship. Bonus comes from subsystems, not from a preordained list that has too many boundaries to be effective. It will only happen when the mantra is changed from blow stuff up to Combat and PvP though. |
Ocih
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Posted - 2012.05.07 07:31:00 -
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Andski wrote:Ocih wrote:Using mining as an example, ship spinners who use the forums to entertain themselves use dumbass ideas like 'Mine aligned' because it works in missions or null bear belt ratting. A Hulk can be as aligned as it wants, it won't get to warp speed before the lock and insta volley kills it. you don't know what "being aligned" means do you it means moving at 75% or more of your maximum speed in the direction you wish to warp every ship can instantly enter warp by doing this, from frigates to titans
And I have said 100 times before, YOU - CAN'T - MINE - HIGH SEC - THAT - WAY.
Rocks aren't big enough, range on strip miners isn't high enough, you would need 200 bookmarks per belt or slowboat to ideal align range at the back side of a rock. It's the stupidest fail troll solution I've seen the armchair forum gang regurgitate over and over but feel free to regurgitate it again. You are only fooling yourself.
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Ocih
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Posted - 2012.05.07 08:01:00 -
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Andski wrote:Ocih wrote:And I have said 100 times before, YOU - CAN'T - MINE - HIGH SEC - THAT - WAY.
Rocks aren't big enough, range on strip miners isn't high enough, you would need 200 bookmarks per belt or slowboat to ideal align range at the back side of a rock. It's the stupidest fail troll solution I've seen the armchair forum gang regurgitate over and over but feel free to regurgitate it again. You are only fooling yourself.
yeah 15km on strip miners is simply ~not enough~
The thing is, I have done what you are saying. Not with Ore but with Ice because I didn't need to update a bookmark grid to do it with ice and was able to come in on the other side of the Ice shard and mine a cycle before I was on the station near side. While it worked, the amount of Ice I was mining was cut in half by transit and dock, undock times. It's not a practical solution. If it gets that harsh for miners, train to use T2 deep core and fit a Rokh or a Hyperion. Either one will get 60% of the Hulk and have well over 70K EHP. That's a stable mining solution but still leaves the question, why the hell is a Hulk even in the game?
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Ocih
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Posted - 2012.05.07 08:05:00 -
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Andski wrote:Ocih wrote:That's a stable mining solution but still leaves the question, why the hell is a Hulk even in the game? Because it is capable of outmining every possible setup of any other hull in the game?
Not if it blows up every time you undock it?
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