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Awox Minmatar Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2009.04.16 20:45:00 - [1] It's way better than an ECCM / signal buff would have ever been... Seriously, get rid of Zulupark already. FFS.
Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.16 20:48:00 - [2] [20:43:48] Awox > I am making a post [20:43:50] Awox > and you are all going to sign it signed Plus, if there are things that you don't like about Eve, click HERE because it will help.
MASTERZULU Caldari Bushido Shoshinshu	Posted - 2009.04.16 20:50:00 - [3] ^^ What Shin said.
William Hart Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2009.04.16 20:55:00 - [4] I really love the new changes. I mean, look at all these Interdictor balance changes. Now my Sabre is much more fun to fly. I'm not even mad that there are now ships in the game that are immune to them. CCP game design team are doing a smashing job. Hey, did you know you can get a visual preview of a ship now if you show info it from market? HOW COOL IS THAT~~~
Star Dancer Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:03:00 - [5] This Falcon change is the best. I bet now if I can jump my battleship into a gate camp and have a fighting chance because I wont be perma-jammed! I wont even need my ECCM.
The Monkeysphere The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:04:00 - [6] I agree with this. You know why?
Lilith Velkor Minmatar OVERLOAD. Dead Terrorists	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:06:00 - [7] Originally by: Star Dancer I wont even need my ECCM. Yea, another useless module
Rukia KuchikiSan	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:17:00 - [8] Maybe there is something i don't get, or you are just joking, becouse the falcon lost his range bonus, but it got a increased strenght bonus
William Hart Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Rukia KuchikiSan Maybe there is something i don't get, or you are just joking, becouse the falcon lost his range bonus, but it got a increased strenght bonus Huh, no joke. I love the change. I got .4 extra jam strength and only lost 2/3 of my range for it. That's pretty fair trade-off. Was definitely unfair of me to use my Falcon at 100km anyways, so I can see why this is good for the game too!
Amarrbone	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:27:00 - [10] Originally by: William Hart Originally by: Rukia KuchikiSan Maybe there is something i don't get, or you are just joking, becouse the falcon lost his range bonus, but it got a increased strenght bonus Huh, no joke. I love the change. I got .4 extra jam strength and only lost 2/3 of my range for it. That's pretty fair trade-off. Was definitely unfair of me to use my Falcon at 100km anyways, so I can see why this is good for the game too! Yup, Now falcons have to fight at closer optimal ranges, just like all the other Recons. Of course the other recons had the ability to fit tanks, have offensive capabilities, etc... But thats why we have the Rook!

Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:37:00 - [11] Originally by: Amarrbone Of course the other recons had the ability to fit tanks, have offensive capabilities, etc... But thats why we have the Rook! You've got it backwards. The other recons had to fit tanks because they didn't have the luxury of being 150-200km from the fight. __________________________________ Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
Rukia KuchikiSan	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:37:00 - [12] Edited by: Rukia KuchikiSan on 16/04/2009 21:37:18 But don't you think the Arazu should be put inline now? All recons are pretty nice imo, jamming, neuting and webbing, but the arazu damp are simply not working, when i damp someone in my arazu, the next cycle he is able to lock me again, that happen always and make me feel like flying a useless ship. Btw sry, i'm going ot maybe.
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:42:00 - [13] Originally by: Rukia KuchikiSan Edited by: Rukia KuchikiSan on 16/04/2009 21:37:18 But don't you think the Arazu should be put inline now? All recons are pretty nice imo, jamming, neuting and webbing, but the arazu damp are simply not working, when i damp someone in my arazu, the next cycle he is able to lock me again, that happen always and make me feel like flying a useless ship. Btw sry, i'm going ot maybe. the problem here is not that the falcon had overpowered range. it's that the other recons were subpar So CCP decided to go the short way and slash falcons instead boosting the other recons. oh well, the harm is done, so let's adapt to it somehow --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Ghoest	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:46:00 - [14] The new Falcon actually is a good ship design. It doesnt ruin fleet battles but its still a good ship. The problem is the other races are way way worse. Wherever you went - Here you are.
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:48:00 - [15] Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: Amarrbone Of course the other recons had the ability to fit tanks, have offensive capabilities, etc... But thats why we have the Rook! You've got it backwards. The other recons had to fit tanks because they didn't have the luxury of being 150-200km from the fight. This. Most recons only fit 2-3 ewar modules, not 6 like the ECM boats.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:49:00 - [16] Originally by: Ghoest The new Falcon actually is a good ship design. It doesnt ruin fleet battles but its still a good ship. The problem is the other races are way way worse. Fleet battles were never the problem. It was small gang fights. Oh and guess what situation the Falcon is pretty much as good in as it was before? (Hint: answer does not rhyme with "leet") 1v1+falcon alt is still as ****ed as it ever was.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:50:00 - [17] Originally by: TimMc This. Most recons only fit 2-3 ewar modules, not 6 like the ECM boats. The other ewar modules work 100% of the time.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.16 21:51:00 - [18] Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: Amarrbone Of course the other recons had the ability to fit tanks, have offensive capabilities, etc... But thats why we have the Rook! You've got it backwards. The other recons had to fit tanks because they didn't have the luxury of being 150-200km from the fight. This. Most recons only fit 2-3 ewar modules, not 6 like the ECM boats. Most recons have a nifty secondary E-War that gave them a good reason to be in fighting range. Fitted purely for Primary EW, they could all operate at 100KM+. They are completely different ships. Ah fck it what's the point.
Atsuko Ratu Caldari Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:08:00 - [19] Edited by: Atsuko Ratu on 16/04/2009 22:13:29 Derp; me dumb.
Mystafyre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:25:00 - [20] It's sure that I will never pilot a Falcon again, but sure I will pilot Rook on small roaming griefing gang...

Mystafyre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:26:00 - [21] Originally by: Omara Otawan Originally by: TimMc This. Most recons only fit 2-3 ewar modules, not 6 like the ECM boats. The other ewar modules work 100% of the time. QFT
Ancorehraq sis Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Malcanis Most recons have a nifty secondary E-War that gave them a good reason to be in fighting range. Fitted purely for Primary EW, they could all operate at 100KM+. They are completely different ships. "CAPTAIN, THEY ARE TARGET PAINTING US FROM 100 KILOMETERS, WE ARE DOOMED"
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:33:00 - [23] Originally by: Ancorehraq sis "CAPTAIN, THEY ARE TARGET PAINTING US FROM 100 KILOMETERS, WE ARE DOOMED" Target painters aside, RSDs and TDs are very useful at these distances...
Mystafyre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:39:00 - [24] Originally by: Rukia KuchikiSan Maybe there is something i don't get, or you are just joking, becouse the falcon lost his range bonus, but it got a increased strenght bonus Yes, more strenght and it lost it's only tank - it's range. While most gangs nowadays being remote repping battleship gangs with long range guns then Falcon will die or spend the day warping off from the battle. Now it's all about whos got most dmg. Falcon was good the way it was. It was all about just BYOF, nothing else. Those who whined about it never brought Falcons to their fleet and got owned, and got owned again. Falcon whiners won. Congs. Now all ewar is useless in fleet combat. Sure Falcon has niche in small roaming pvp like arazu and pilgrim, but any larger fights not a chance because the range. But sure there is a use for Arazu in fleet, heavy tackler, pilgrim being hauler, falcon...salvager? rapier...cyno?
Jared D'Uroth	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:40:00 - [25] Originally by: Ancorehraq sis Originally by: Malcanis Most recons have a nifty secondary E-War that gave them a good reason to be in fighting range. Fitted purely for Primary EW, they could all operate at 100KM+. They are completely different ships. "CAPTAIN, THEY ARE TARGET PAINTING US FROM 100 KILOMETERS, WE ARE DOOMED" Hey, someone in S&M made a good post!
Jared D'Uroth	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:42:00 - [26] Originally by: Mystafyre Originally by: Rukia KuchikiSan Maybe there is something i don't get, or you are just joking, becouse the falcon lost his range bonus, but it got a increased strenght bonus Yes, more strenght and it lost it's only tank - it's range. While most gangs nowadays being remote repping battleship gangs with long range guns then Falcon will die or spend the day warping off from the battle. Now it's all about whos got most dmg. Falcon was good the way it was. It was all about just BYOF, nothing else. Those who whined about it never brought Falcons to their fleet and got owned, and got owned again. Falcon whiners won. Congs. Now all ewar is useless in fleet combat. Sure Falcon has niche in small roaming pvp like arazu and pilgrim, but any larger fights not a chance because the range. But sure there is a use for Arazu in fleet, heavy tackler, pilgrim being hauler, falcon...salvager? rapier...cyno? Wait, so they bring the Falcon INLINE with the other Recons, and you are complaining. I hope you're trolling when you ADMIT that gangs without Falcons always lost. No ship should ALWAYS be needed to win.
Mystafyre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:47:00 - [27] Edited by: Mystafyre on 16/04/2009 22:47:09 Originally by: Jared D'Uroth Originally by: Mystafyre Originally by: Rukia KuchikiSan Maybe there is something i don't get, or you are just joking, becouse the falcon lost his range bonus, but it got a increased strenght bonus Yes, more strenght and it lost it's only tank - it's range. While most gangs nowadays being remote repping battleship gangs with long range guns then Falcon will die or spend the day warping off from the battle. Now it's all about whos got most dmg. Falcon was good the way it was. It was all about just BYOF, nothing else. Those who whined about it never brought Falcons to their fleet and got owned, and got owned again. Falcon whiners won. Congs. Now all ewar is useless in fleet combat. Sure Falcon has niche in small roaming pvp like arazu and pilgrim, but any larger fights not a chance because the range. But sure there is a use for Arazu in fleet, heavy tackler, pilgrim being hauler, falcon...salvager? rapier...cyno? Wait, so they bring the Falcon INLINE with the other Recons, and you are complaining. I hope you're trolling when you ADMIT that gangs without Falcons always lost. No ship should ALWAYS be needed to win. Eh? What Falcon actually won ever? Did you see SOLO FALCONS ganking anything? Falcon was only working EWAR tool for fleets, and now its useless like the every other are. ECM doesnt work like SD/TR/TP, you need four mods if you want to be ready to counter any ship there is. Or four multiracials to counter one ship. Think about why falcon was ONLY force recon used to assist fleets....
Mystafyre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:50:00 - [28] Originally by: Jared D'Uroth I hope you're trolling when you ADMIT that gangs without Falcons always lost. No ship should ALWAYS be needed to win. So you are saying that the fleet who recruited pilots who are able to fly ewar ship and bringing it into fight won was wrong when the other ones never didn't bring their own? What's the logic there?
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:50:00 - [29] **** falcons.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2009.04.16 22:55:00 - [30] Originally by: Jared D'Uroth Wait, so they bring the Falcon INLINE with the other Recons, and you are complaining. I hope you're trolling when you ADMIT that gangs without Falcons always lost. No ship should ALWAYS be needed to win. They didnt bring it inline, or it would have a tank, its ewar would work 100% of the time and it would be able to deal damage.



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