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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.17 03:36:00 - [31] Originally by: wowtard This might be off topic because it's not an Eve rant, but I think chess needs more pieces with different abilities. There are only rooks, knights, bishops, queens, kings, and pawns and both sides are exactly the same! This makes chess a very limited game with limited possibilities and no depth. Chess needs moar pieces! They did that. It's called Risk. Then Age of Empires. Then Command and Conquer. Now EvE ... Originally by: 5pinDizzy Troll Score-o-Meter --------Failure----------\|\|\|-----------Succes------- 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1--0--1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10
tikiana	Posted - 2009.04.17 04:20:00 - [32] I'd love to see more faction ships. faction BCs and destroyers and not just the 4 factions but bloods, serps, guristas etc. i think they BCs and destoryers have been in the game long enough that each of the different factions would have their own variations on them
Super Whopper I can Has Cheeseburger	Posted - 2009.04.17 08:28:00 - [33] Originally by: tikiana I'd love to see more faction ships. faction BCs and destroyers and not just the 4 factions but bloods, serps, guristas etc. i think they BCs and destoryers have been in the game long enough that each of the different factions would have their own variations on them How about current faction ships being made more useful first? When was the last time you saw people flying faction cruisers in PVP?
PhragEng1	Posted - 2009.04.17 10:36:00 - [34] I think they should make faction Bc and destroyers, aswell with a few new T2 cruisers and frigates mabye a third command ship (myrmidon hurricane prophecy and drake models if they can't make new models.)
Skjorta	Posted - 2009.04.17 10:52:00 - [35] I think everybody forgets you can still add t1 ships to the game. New ships don't always have to be 500m+ isk monsters...but ships that might actually add some more variety for the whole player base please and not just a few players. The whole "gives people something to aim for" is such a worthless line. I'm sure as hell not aiming for t3, its a worthless pile of **** that you'll pay billions for and end up getting ganked anyways. I'm aiming to make isk effective ships even better ...like a lot of players. Another t1 bc please. Was horrible when there was only 1, but still with only 2 you have less options than frigs, cruisers or BS's.
Ankhesentapemkah Gallente State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.04.17 11:17:00 - [36] There really should be more droneboats, battlecruiser and battleship size. The Sin doesn't cut it, there should be a Drone Marauder and Drone Command Ship. ---
Doomed Predator The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.17 11:44:00 - [37] Originally by: Dax Redding I think theres way too much focus on Tech 3 ships that most people wont be able to afford for around a year. All I ask is, create new ships CCP, Tech 1, Tech 2.. Give us more variety in BattleShips. We have a ton of Frigates, a good choosing of cruisers, But as the list goes up, theres less and less ships. Give us more, add some variety. I actually want this because The ROKH is considered Caldari's biggest BS. Yet, caldari is all about missles, so you train missles then BOOM! train a whole new weapon set to fly our best ship... really? Ravens are kind of pathetic, they cant even take the small BS's from other factions as ive observed, and the Scorpion? Its hardly a BattleShip, its basically a big support ship. All im saying is, add new ships to the current tech levels, on all factions. More variety will be better gameplay and a better experience. If anything you can make a T2 version of the Rokh as a command ship or do things such as this with existing ships. Anyone with me on this? Yeah,all those rail and ECM boats we have are just something to sit in if there are no missile ships on the market right? The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again
Drokar Gazer CIVIL DEFENSE	Posted - 2009.04.17 13:52:00 - [38] Originally by: Xianbei Originally by: DigitalCommunist Ships are NOT content, they are TOOLS. The sooner people realize that, the better this game will be. NO Actually he is right. When I started eve we had frigates, interceptor, cruiser, battleship (no tier 3 for a few years later), shuttles and industials. No tech 2, no POS, no outposts, no wormholes, etc etc. And it was still about tactics not how big you ship was. Ships are your avatars in essense. Content is all the other stuff in game that causes you to fit you ship ( tool) to win at your objective.
Ruu Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.04.17 14:32:00 - [39] I hope it doesnt sound to cheesy, or an attempt at a classic geek line but... Not sure about anyone else, but I would like to fly a ship similar to those flown in star treks. A large ship, battleship? in size, capable of surviving out in space for a long time that is designed to explore and learn. Its quite capable of defending itself and is usually unbalanced towards defence rather than offensive systems, generally avoiding combat where possible. The ship is basically a large exploration/scientific hub for learning and discovery. In terms of eve, I guess some kind of battleship hull, bonus to tractors, hacking devices, scanners/probes and perhaps salvagers. Didnt want it to come across chessy, but I think its a fiction ship that has had alot of thaught put into it already, why not bring in something similar to eve.
BillyBob Esq	Posted - 2009.04.17 15:09:00 - [40] I agree with CCP that introducing any new ships right isn't the best idea because there's no hole that needs filling, except for the idea of a science type bonus battlecruiser or battleship which would give bonuses to scanning, hacking, etc. You'd have marauders t2s for combat, and sciency t2's for, well, science.As a different idea, what about a battleship class module, low or mid slot, that allowed the ship to enter something like seige mode were it got science based bonuses? (perhaps without the speed hit, but say, couldn't activate weapons modules while active) That said I think most of the people who want new ships are generally just saying that they want something different from everyone else, and to that end I would love to see a custom skin tool for ships akin to the fitting window. Having little clue as to how the graphical side of eve runs, I will accept that allowing anyone to add any jpeg or whatever to thier ship could cause server/lag problems, but even something basic, picking from a list of images (you know the skull and crossbones would be on there) or basic paint functions would still be cool.
tikiana	Posted - 2009.04.19 23:23:00 - [41] Originally by: Super Whopper Originally by: tikiana I'd love to see more faction ships. faction BCs and destroyers and not just the 4 factions but bloods, serps, guristas etc. i think they BCs and destoryers have been in the game long enough that each of the different factions would have their own variations on them How about current faction ships being made more useful first? When was the last time you saw people flying faction cruisers in PVP? I don't think this will happen, faction ships just cost too much to play with in pvp, sure there are t2 ships that people fly in pvp but they seem to have a lot more survivability VSs faction ships
McGitterson	Posted - 2009.04.19 23:41:00 - [42] Originally by: Dax Redding I actually want this because The ROKH is considered Caldari's biggest BS. Yet, caldari is all about missles, so you train missles then BOOM! train a whole new weapon set to fly our best ship... really? Ravens are kind of pathetic, they cant even take the small BS's from other factions as ive observed, and the Scorpion? Its hardly a BattleShip, its basically a big support ship. ... Anyone with me on this? Oh come on, since the battleships first came out Caldari have been asking for a Tier 3 bs that focused on hybrid turrets for added variation and spice, now it's out someone whines that there's a bs they have to train new weapons for? I've just come back to the game from a nearly 3 year absence and it's nice to know some things never change... no wait, it's not nice, it's stupid.
Nito Musashi	Posted - 2009.04.19 23:44:00 - [43] how bout extend the modular thing down to t2 even t1, or t1.5 or t2.5 if you will make them equal or slightly better than their counterparts, fairly or very pricey in comparison. could do cruisers, dessies, bcs, bs. would give players all kind of options and varying roles on their personal preferences, or hell maybe they would just try and make them look pretty. who knows but it sure would give a good bit of variety to the lineup.
DigitalCommunist November Corporation	Posted - 2009.04.20 00:05:00 - [44] Originally by: Xianbei Originally by: DigitalCommunist Ships are NOT content, they are TOOLS. The sooner people realize that, the better this game will be. NO Oh, when you put it that way.. YES
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.04.20 08:03:00 - [45] It would be nice to see Tier 2 Destroyers that were focused around Missiles and Drones instead of Turrets maybe Faction variants of all T1 ships (Drake Navy Issue <3) Tier 2 Tech 2 BCs that, instead of being really tanky like Command Ships instead had much improved firepower (Battleship-level) I dunno how balanced they'd be vov - Contagious -
Captian Duffy Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2009.04.20 08:08:00 - [46] before adding any new ships CCP should have a look at how much marauders and black ops(especially black ops!) are used in game. the price-benefit ratio is ridiculously high for them. i mean why pay a price of a carrier for BATTLESHIP that will get blown up almost just as easy as your regular BS for 80-90m isk + you'll be magnet for suicide ganks. imo prices for blackops and marauders should be 2x or 3x the price of a regular battleship max.
Tamahra 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2009.04.20 08:16:00 - [47] id also love to see more and new rare and special ships, with new models and graphics and such.
Todd Doughnut	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:22:00 - [48] i think they should just make the hyperion worth flying. AS it stands its a crappy thing, unfit for purpose.
Math'ra Hiede Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris	Posted - 2009.04.20 11:43:00 - [49] Originally by: Todd Doughnut i think they should just make the hyperion worth flying. AS it stands its a crappy thing, unfit for purpose. Tell that to the pirates who just podded you in them, seriously - I used to think that, but they have become more prominent from what I have seen Originally by: CCP Greyscale :facepalm:
J'Mkarr Soban Amarr Proxenetae Invicti	Posted - 2009.04.20 12:58:00 - [50] Edited by: J''Mkarr Soban on 20/04/2009 13:00:39 Originally by: Roemy Schneider but t3 is a must-have now... granted, just a sisi screeny bubble immune probe immune cov cloak 3x -28.125% links still some slots to fill WTS, my damnation SP (will be testing "perfect" loki in 3 days -.-) O.O Originally by: Drokar Gazer Actually he is right. When I started eve we had frigates, interceptor, cruiser, battleship (no tier 3 for a few years later), shuttles and industials. When were interceptors ever Tech 1? o.o Whatever you are smoking, ship some my way please -- These are my personal views and in no way represent the views of Proxenetae Invicti, which maintains a neutral stance stemming from the strong ethics demanded of its work.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.04.20 13:00:00 - [51] I have been creating more tech 1 and tech 2 fan ships but i doubt ill see any of them ingame. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 19Apr09
Nito Musashi	Posted - 2009.04.20 13:12:00 - [52] Originally by: Math'ra Hiede Originally by: Todd Doughnut i think they should just make the hyperion worth flying. AS it stands its a crappy thing, unfit for purpose. Tell that to the pirates who just podded you in them, seriously - I used to think that, but they have become more prominent from what I have seen i always liked the hyper, its easier to fit, it is faster, it has more hp than a mega, other than the dx9 skin which i hate, the dx8 shiny black looked so much better than matte grey and powder blue nerf the dx9 skin but the ships has been and continues to be fine.
Ratchman	Posted - 2009.04.20 13:13:00 - [53] Originally by: Captian Duffy before adding any new ships CCP should have a look at how much marauders and black ops(especially black ops!) are used in game. the price-benefit ratio is ridiculously high for them. i mean why pay a price of a carrier for BATTLESHIP that will get blown up almost just as easy as your regular BS for 80-90m isk + you'll be magnet for suicide ganks. imo prices for blackops and marauders should be 2x or 3x the price of a regular battleship max. There is a very valid point here. T2 gets increasingly difficult to justify using in PvP as you go up the scale. If these ships are intended to be used in PvP, then they would need to be cheaper to produce. The insurance should be kept the way it is, but the ships need to be a little more disposable than they are at the moment. This is something that can be done in increments. See the game with more of the resources that make T2, see if the price goes down a little, see if they take up in using T2 in PvP goes up a little, and repeat if necessary. T2 shouldn't replace T1, that's for sure, but I think I have seen 1 Kronos and around 2 or 3 Golems since the T2 BS' were released, which isn't really common enough. Assault frigates, HACs and so on are fairly common, but once you get to the BC-level and above in T2, they become increasingly rare. And to those who say that there are too many ways to generate ISK in this game. Well, maybe there are, but if the main focus of your game is PvP, then it is significantly harder to keep shelling out for tech 2. Besides, many of these forms of generation are okay if you don't mind grinding for hour upon hour in missions (which is why I tend to specialise in other forms of ISK generation). Also, if it were truly that easy to generate ISK, why aren't people risking high-end ships more often? In regards to the other ships, I would like to see some of the faction ships become a little more affordable too, so they can be taken in PvP too. I like the look of the Nightmare, but there is no way I would invest that much in a ship to take it into battle where it has a high chance of dying in seconds. Some of the T2 models could be added to as well. Not major changes, but subtle changes to help differentiate the ship models. For instance, the Purifier has two extra engines bolted on to differentiate it from the Inquisitor (if that is the T1 equivalent). This is quite a nice subtle change. The Manticore, on the other hand, only really has a colour change. Perhaps they could be a little more bold with the redesigns. I always thought the Tempest fleet issue, with it's rectangular solar sails made quite a striking difference to the regular polygonal one without too much redesign, and you can clearly differentiate that from a distance.
Yalezorn Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.20 13:54:00 - [54] Originally by: Dax Redding Give us more variety in BattleShips. We have a ton of Frigates, a good choosing of cruisers, While it might be nice in principle, it doesn't really make much sense. We have mining and cargo frigates and cruisers, electronic warfare boats, light and heavy gunships etc that give variety, because those ship classes are meant for support. Battleships are there to fight. That we have 3 options already for that is pretty nice. That said, I wouldn't mind seeing some more variation in the destroyer and battlecruiser line-ups, although I don't know personally what you could do with them.
NeoTheo Dark Materials Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.04.20 14:02:00 - [55] Edited by: NeoTheo on 20/04/2009 14:04:54 Originally by: Dax Redding Edited by: Dax Redding on 16/04/2009 21:42:25 Edited by: Dax Redding on 16/04/2009 21:41:59 Originally by: Grek Forto Raven can't take on other races ships? Are you backwards? A BASIC RAVEN? seriously. The Basic Raven is pathetic. 1v1 vs any other BS in game, it loses. Unless the other pilots skills are total crap. Any decently trained pilot on another BS can take a Raven 1v1 LEARN2PLAY. a torp raven properly setup is one of the best battleship killers in the game. and this, is the best quote on EvE-O in a long long time. Originally by: DigitalCommunist I would rather have three classes that meant something than 50 that don't. These ******ed requests for more ships are coming from the same clowns whose game revolves around acquiring the next biggest toy. Ships are NOT content, they are TOOLS. The sooner people realize that, the better this game will be. /Theo Dark Materials
Lego Maniac Minmatar Dusty Death Enterprise Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.04.20 15:51:00 - [56] Originally by: DigitalCommunist These ******ed requests for more ships are coming from the same clowns whose game revolves around acquiring the next biggest toy. hey you! yes, you didn't you used to own the federate mega?
Fifi LeFume No Trademark	Posted - 2009.04.21 02:42:00 - [57] Originally by: Dax Redding A BASIC RAVEN? seriously. The Basic Raven is pathetic. 1v1 vs any other BS in game, it loses. Unless the other pilots skills are total crap. Any decently trained pilot on another BS can take a Raven 1v1 You are a moron. True story
StealthGerbils	Posted - 2009.04.21 06:49:00 - [58] Edited by: StealthGerbils on 21/04/2009 06:50:01 a salvage ship would be awesome. give it 5 high slots and a large cargo bay. 2 salvagers 2 tractor beams and a decent salvage bonus. more destroyers would be cool. add a tech 2 destroyer for each race. the caldari one would use missiles, minmatar would be a split weapon system, gallente would be a drone destroyer and amarr would be a nice tough laser boat. pretty much a hac equivalent of a destroyer. maybe even add electronic warfare destroyers... medical ships would be cool too. they would be able to fit a clone vat bay and act as a mobile respawn point. they would cost like 1b isk fitted which is much easier to bite then 20b or more. it would require the clone vat bay system to be reworked. have it so you 'bind' at the clone vat bay and if the ship is destroyed you get notified and you respawn where you would normally. the ship could also get bonuses to remote reps but wouldn't be as tough as a carrier so it wouldn't see any pvp action and wouldn't infringe on the role for triaged carriers. motherships should also get a huge boost in ship storage. allow them to hold 50-60 battleships or a small fleet of cruisers.
Glock Harkonnen	Posted - 2009.04.21 07:24:00 - [59] Have said it before and will say it again Ships are like socks. You will change them often and occasionally lose a few. I would like to slap a nifty graphic on the side of mine though

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