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Kel Solaar Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2009.04.22 16:17:00 - [31] Fly a Crusader...
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.04.22 16:23:00 - [32] Originally by: Mordican So basically Galle has 1 ceptor and 3 AF's. 1 ceptor 2 AF's 1 tick with 3 .50 cal. heavy MG's and 2 rottweilers armed with spikes, jetpacks and titanium teeth.
Zakon Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.22 16:46:00 - [33] Drones on any frig is simply stupid. In case of taranis its even a bit overpowered. As that ship didnt already hade enough off damage ? Points like give it extra damage slot instead is actualy valid. one misile/rocket slot instead is more balanced. Damage wise 2 light drones outdamage by a big margin one unbonused rocked launcher, in adition drones dont use cpu/grid resources off the ship. Drones on a frig sizes ship, no matter which one it is, is definitley one off the top five most stupid things in Eve. Aditionaly light ecm drones are bugged and overpowered as they are, and in case off close ceptor vs ceptor combats one round off jam is enough to make total and decisive diffrance. Having that possibility on already highest damage ceptor in a game is morbid. Eighder give all ceptors 10 m3 drone bay (which is idotic but still more balanced than only gallente frigs having the possibility) and remove 4:th non bonused damage slot on all frigs, or remove the damn drones from any frig class ships!!
Doublemuff The Drips	Posted - 2009.04.22 17:10:00 - [34] Edited by: Doublemuff on 22/04/2009 17:11:16 Originally by: Ig Neus By all means, remove the Drone Bay from the Taranis. But Give it an extra weapon slot and increase its (base speed) to match that of Crusader/Claw. Deal? im a huge fan of flying ranises and i dont want them ruined by any means but come off it but a 4th blaster would make ranises so much more powerful than every other ceptor an extra blaster would be fun but its really not a very clever idea imo.
Ig Neus	Posted - 2009.04.23 10:04:00 - [35] Originally by: Zakon Drones on any frig is simply stupid. In case of taranis its even a bit overpowered. As that ship didnt already hade enough off damage ? Points like give it extra damage slot instead is actualy valid. one misile/rocket slot instead is more balanced. Damage wise 2 light drones outdamage by a big margin one unbonused rocked launcher, in adition drones dont use cpu/grid resources off the ship. Drones on a frig sizes ship, no matter which one it is, is definitley one off the top five most stupid things in Eve. Aditionaly light ecm drones are bugged and overpowered as they are, and in case off close ceptor vs ceptor combats one round off jam is enough to make total and decisive diffrance. Having that possibility on already highest damage ceptor in a game is morbid. Eighder give all ceptors 10 m3 drone bay (which is idotic but still more balanced than only gallente frigs having the possibility) and remove 4:th non bonused damage slot on all frigs, or remove the damn drones from any frig class ships!! Care to explain why exactly the race that is known for its Drones cannot have Drones on every ship class? In fact I'd love to see even a T1 Drone Frigate (remove the useless missile launchers from Tristan, give it an extra turret, 10m3 additional drone bay and change the bonus to drone damage/level please). Especially on Taranis case, comparing it with Crusader, Claw or Crow makes the reason it has 10m3 Drone bay clear enough. It is slower and has less weapon slots. Are not those the basic attributes of combat interceptors?
Qui Shon	Posted - 2009.04.23 10:31:00 - [36] Originally by: Ig Neus Care to explain why exactly the race that is known for its Drones cannot have Drones on every ship class? In fact I'd love to see even a T1 Drone Frigate... It's called the Imicus.
logeoff now	Posted - 2009.04.23 11:19:00 - [37] 5 taranises can take out KRONOS!! This is working as intended for sure!!!
Ig Neus	Posted - 2009.04.23 11:50:00 - [38] Originally by: Qui Shon Originally by: Ig Neus Care to explain why exactly the race that is known for its Drones cannot have Drones on every ship class? In fact I'd love to see even a T1 Drone Frigate... It's called the Imicus. There is a reason it does not count, Velator is a better ship.
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.04.23 11:52:00 - [39] Originally by: logeoff now 5 taranises can take out KRONOS!! This is working as intended for sure!!! lolwhat
Zakon Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.04.23 12:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Ig Neus Originally by: Zakon Drones on any frig is simply stupid. In case of taranis its even a bit overpowered. As that ship didnt already hade enough off damage ? Points like give it extra damage slot instead is actualy valid. one misile/rocket slot instead is more balanced. Damage wise 2 light drones outdamage by a big margin one unbonused rocked launcher, in adition drones dont use cpu/grid resources off the ship. Drones on a frig sizes ship, no matter which one it is, is definitley one off the top five most stupid things in Eve. Aditionaly light ecm drones are bugged and overpowered as they are, and in case off close ceptor vs ceptor combats one round off jam is enough to make total and decisive diffrance. Having that possibility on already highest damage ceptor in a game is morbid. Eighder give all ceptors 10 m3 drone bay (which is idotic but still more balanced than only gallente frigs having the possibility) and remove 4:th non bonused damage slot on all frigs, or remove the damn drones from any frig class ships!! Care to explain why exactly the race that is known for its Drones cannot have Drones on every ship class? In fact I'd love to see even a T1 Drone Frigate (remove the useless missile launchers from Tristan, give it an extra turret, 10m3 additional drone bay and change the bonus to drone damage/level please). Especially on Taranis case, comparing it with Crusader, Claw or Crow makes the reason it has 10m3 Drone bay clear enough. It is slower and has less weapon slots. Are not those the basic attributes of combat interceptors? Becouse its a issue off balance. specificly in the case off taranis(the ship that is already by a big margin outdamaging all other in its class). Even if Galente are the drone rase in all other ship classes diffrent races have the possibility to use them. In case off frig sized ships onlyGalente can use them. That makes a big diffrence. I personaly dont think taranis is overpowered. But its drones are giving it possibility to be " taranis and nothing else out there " if using correct drones, at least in solo ceptor vs ceptor fights. I fly claw and have no difficluties off soloing taranis (no matter if its blaster or rail fitted). Off 30 fights i loose maybe 1. But as said right drones could swich those numbers totaly around. people just cant fit their ships right
Ravenesa	Posted - 2009.04.23 15:04:00 - [41] Amarr have some drone ships and some missile ships Why not give the Malediction a drone bay to compensate for its crap bonus? Ceptors by definition are supposed to be fast tacklers, not fast damage dealers, those are what AF's are for. The fact that a Taranis out classes other race's AF's should be an obvious indication that something about it needs to be changed.
Pater Peccavi Minmatar	Posted - 2009.04.23 15:34:00 - [42] Originally by: Zakon In case off frig sized ships onlyGalente can use them. That makes a big diffrence. That's not true. Just looking at Minmatar, you've got the Vigil and the probe (and the Reaper). While I don't really expect people to PvP in a probe, the Vigil is a great candidate for using a drone in PvP. This is a post. It says stuff.
Spectre3353 Gallente The Python Cartel. The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.04.23 15:55:00 - [43] You all make me.... so.... ANGRY ----- The Python Cartel - My Pirate Blog
H Lecter Gallente The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.04.23 16:05:00 - [44] Why don't you guys just fly one instead of complaining? I swear flying a Ranis is more fun than *****ing on the forum... Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed resolution of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. -Weatherman
Canaloney Soup Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.04.23 17:04:00 - [45] OP probley got own by a ranis and doesn't know how to counter it = fail pvp
Liang Nuren No Salvation PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.23 17:05:00 - [46] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Mordican So basically Galle has 1 ceptor and 3 AF's. 1 ceptor 2 AF's 1 tick with 3 .50 cal. heavy MG's and 2 rottweilers armed with spikes, jetpacks and titanium teeth. Yeeeessssssss! Also, what's wrong with this picture? Nothing. Is the 'ranis OP? Not a chance. :) -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org
Enden Assulu Caldari Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel	Posted - 2009.04.23 17:32:00 - [47] What is the problem with 2 light drones? According to EFT 2x Hobgoblin II do 39DPS and 2x Warrior II do 32 DPS. If you die to that sort of damage you need to learn to fly your ship.
Ig Neus	Posted - 2009.04.23 17:40:00 - [48] Originally by: Ravenesa Amarr have some drone ships and some missile ships Why not give the Malediction a drone bay to compensate for its crap bonus? Ceptors by definition are supposed to be fast tacklers, not fast damage dealers, those are what AF's are for. The fact that a Taranis out classes other race's AF's should be an obvious indication that something about it needs to be changed. Each race has 2 Interceptors. One is the tackling specialized interceptor, the other is the fast damage dealer. AF are supposed to be Heavier Frigates, with more damage and more tank, not faster ones. Everything is working as intended. Taranis is the king of Interceptor dogfights, but the reason for it is that you can almost always get in web/scrambler range, despite being close to 1km/s slower than your target, because of the way overheating works and the (normal) lag.
Enden Assulu Caldari Blood Money Inc. Blood Money Cartel	Posted - 2009.04.23 17:45:00 - [49] Originally by: Ig Neus Originally by: Ravenesa Amarr have some drone ships and some missile ships Why not give the Malediction a drone bay to compensate for its crap bonus? Ceptors by definition are supposed to be fast tacklers, not fast damage dealers, those are what AF's are for. The fact that a Taranis out classes other race's AF's should be an obvious indication that something about it needs to be changed. Each race has 2 Interceptors. One is the tackling specialized interceptor, the other is the fast damage dealer. AF are supposed to be Heavier Frigates, with more damage and more tank, not faster ones. Everything is working as intended. Taranis is the king of Interceptor dogfights, but the reason for it is that you can almost always get in web/scrambler range, despite being close to 1km/s slower than your target, because of the way overheating works and the (normal) lag. And most people are stupid lol :D
BrunoD Gallente Cricas Portuguese Korp	Posted - 2009.05.08 03:51:00 - [50] I was searching for some threads on taranis fits until I saw this one which made me stop to give an opinion about it. First I think it is a bit unfair to have the taranis nerfed so that there are only three highs left for shooting, the point is Gallente ships have a HUGE handicap between damage and range which makes them highly vulnerable to any other ship flying on medium/long range. Of course there are many players who simply hate gallente ships because they almost completely neglect pvps capacities of each race. Gallente ships are the slower yet the highest damage dealer of all races, adding to this they have the worse range on blasters. In my opinion every race as its own ubber ships (thus gives some space to play styles), see vagabond still the speed king, zealot the tank king, broadsword ubber hictor, or falcon greater reacon ship. I believe taranis is in fact the best combat ceptor but when using rails (difficult weapons to use due to ammo restrictions). So that gets me to the point that those 2 drones add a bit of range to DPS and are vital to that ships habilities. Now see, Gallente offers two ceptors which may be the opposite: 1. Ares is a fast tackler conceived for 25km range so will be using rails and disruptor and booster --> makes this ship a good tackler (LOW DPS); 2. Taranis is a combat ceptor that can fit 2 completely different setups a. blasters, scrambler + web ---> suicidal ship (this gives taranis the tiniest life of any ceptor, but HIGH DPS) b. rails, scrambler + web ---> toughest of all ceptors (the one with the biggest survival rate) To make a point on the above ares will be an ubber tackler but dies to any common ceptor. Blasteranis stands for the toughest ceptor but is limited to close range thus will die very fast (keen for being suicidal). Then there is Railranis which will dictate range but effectively is a piece of crap on close due to rails tracking. On the other hand, and I am speaking now to the author, you may see two distint types of player in a ceptor: the one in the suicidal setup and the other in the survival setup. The first dies to any long range ceptor, the second one probably is someone who as already understood all of that and manually navigates to dictate is survivability with rails plus scrambler setup. Every ceptor has its weakness and highs, the taranis as its own attittude, either you are suicidal or someone trying (read trying means it depends on your abilities)to dictate range. So if for some reason all of you who complain about the drones stop and see that taranis is a very nice ship as any of other race, then you will see that drones are a vulnerability on either any setup. If you manage to maintain to keep outside web range and kill the drones, you are safe... AS SIMPLE AS THAT :D
Drama Kirlan Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2009.05.08 05:42:00 - [51] If because of this thread the dev's come anywhere near my baby with anything resembleing a nerf to how I fly it I will hunt every single person who called for a reduction in the ranis effectiveness until they lose sp. I love my little ranis even if I don't fly it much anymore. Also one tip. I'd trade 32dps for a chance to jam something any day and that chance saved my ass and got me a sabre kill once. Also please vote for another damage bonus. I want to do 300dps :D
ThaMa Gebir Gallente Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2009.05.08 08:00:00 - [52] Originally by: Grimpak Originally by: Mordican So basically Galle has 1 ceptor and 3 AF's. 1 ceptor 2 AF's 1 tick with 3 .50 cal. heavy MG's and 2 rottweilers armed with spikes, jetpacks and titanium teeth. Best description I have heard yet for the Taranis... ---------------------------- Confirmed heaviest member of RDEX........ Hah, no more hijacks here!!!!
Firvain	Posted - 2009.05.08 09:04:00 - [53] Originally by: Mordican So basically Galle has 1 ceptor and 3 AF's. well its beter then caldari with 1 inty, 1 AF and 2 pieces of metal that can float around in space
Shemhamphorash	Posted - 2009.05.08 11:57:00 - [54] Originally by: Kel Solaar Fly a Crusader... Nuff said.
kreat1ELV	Posted - 2009.05.08 15:23:00 - [55] Sigh, we just finished another round of nerfs and now someone wants to start on something else. Just PLAY the bloody game FGS!!
Serra Polaris Amarr Trichomes Unlimited The Circus	Posted - 2009.05.08 17:56:00 - [56] I suppose the ideal situation would be for all ships to be balanced within their own class, but that's not how it is. The Taranis is one of the best interceptors, but that doesn't mean it needs to be nerfed. Every race has their own strong ships in each ship class, that's how it is. Otherwise we can sit here and go through the list of all ships and nerfing them down until everything is balanced. The reason why I think the Taranis is one of the best ceptors (for ceptor dogfighting) is not because of the drone bay but because its the only combat ceptor with a third midslot for a web (excluding the caldari one). And as most people have already suggested, just fly one yourself. It'll take you about 15 days to hop in one with tech2 blasters.
CrimsonLobo Caldari Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.05.08 18:11:00 - [57] Only way to fly the ranis is the 2 MFS fit, ANYONE THAT FITS RAILS SHOULD DIE(ingame)
Prometheus Exenthal Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.05.08 18:35:00 - [58] Originally by: CrimsonLobo Only way to fly the ranis is the 2 MFS fit, ANYONE THAT FITS RAILS SHOULD DIE(ingame) For dogfighting, rails > blasters all day every day For gang work, blasters > rails - MY LATEST VIDEO - BATTLE CRUISE
CrimsonLobo Caldari Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2009.05.08 19:34:00 - [59] Originally by: Prometheus Exenthal Originally by: CrimsonLobo Only way to fly the ranis is the 2 MFS fit, ANYONE THAT FITS RAILS SHOULD DIE(ingame) For dogfighting, rails > blasters all day every day For gang work, blasters > rails Big wussy!!!!!! no i stand by the fact the only way to fly ranis's is the big balls method. Kill or die horribly. PS i really need to try out the MWD AB fit
Descrambled	Posted - 2009.05.08 19:59:00 - [60] I dont see why I have to give up the drone bay on my taranis a rolled Gallente for drones. All the ships I pilot have drone bays. Not to mention my race has already been dealt a truckload of nerfs And you have the nerve to post on an overpowered Amarr alt

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