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Triath Lon The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.04.23 20:29:00 - [31] Can't speak for other alliances, but if we die "on duty" - we get new ships, fully fitted in accordance with alliance standards.
Crackzilla The Shadow Order	Posted - 2009.04.23 20:58:00 - [32] Edited by: Crackzilla on 23/04/2009 21:00:13 Originally by: faxtarious we have another dude talking about 15 bll per month on moon mining now... Yes, thats what a high end moon can be worth. To help, there are multiple types of moon mins that can be mined. Some are worth more and some are rare. Then there is isk to be made in the reactions for t2 parts. 15bil/month might be a bit high but it is close enough. Originally by: faxtarious and PS: how can you run multiple account PvPing in one, ratt9ing in he other...running mission on that ..and then some...while watching TV ? Have you played this game before? Neither missions nor ratting takes much thought or attention. A decent computer and 30" monitors help. I'm also often checking work email and surfing the net while waiting for something to happen. Really not that difficult. Running multiple accounts is fairly common. Originally by: faxtarious the verdict is that Most alliance have allot of members who sell GTCs... Some members do certainly. The vast majority do not. No real reason to unless you want an epeen like a mothership. Originally by: faxtarious I've tested out ALL aspect of this game and came to the conclusion that it takes more than In game means to put out a 98 cap fleet...loose it on Saturday..and refit one the next day to defend that POS coming out of reinforcement. Next day? pah! Maybe for a mothership/titan. Some of the cap battles linked above have pilots losing multiple cap ships in the same fight. Also some cap pilots have other cap pilot alts. So they might lose more than 1 or 2 ships. Having a 100man cap fleet isn't that unusual. Considering how rarely they're popped caps aren't difficult to replace. You haven't tested all aspects of this game.
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.04.23 21:41:00 - [33] Originally by: faxtarious The question here should be how the F**** does an alliance fund all these caps ???? GTC ??? eBay ??? in game methods ??? (yeah..My ass) ENLIGHTEN ME Dude there are thousands... thousands of people in these alliances. Easy to have the logistics and funds to build a 100 caps every now and then. ================================================== I should really get a sig.
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2009.04.24 08:59:00 - [34] Originally by: faxtarious It,s weird... you never see these in science and indy forum... tall they talk about up there is Veldspar So close to the answer... So close yet so far.
Minmatar Citizen5332	Posted - 2009.04.24 09:57:00 - [35] Ignorance this LOUD and in your face always cracks me up. I'm a small fry ISK maker and seriously don't try very hard at all. My trading alt that buys and sells stuff in Jita makes a few billion a month and can easily do it docked and while my other character is on a roam or gate camp. If I wanted I could rat or mission on top of that and get the same trade character into invention and production and make MUCH more ISk with some effort. However if you INSIST on sticking your fingers in your ears and never make more than peanuts in this game claiming it's the best you can possibly do, go right ahead. This is making ISK on my own, imagine alliance efforts of thousands. Hell even scammers make billions a week routinely. I just got trolled right?
Olga Mokroff School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.04.24 10:22:00 - [36] Originally by: faxtarious inconsistent info we have another dude talking about 15 bll per month on moon mining now... price of dysprosium ~200k 1 cycle of moon harvesting array (1h) = 100 units of moon goo (eg dysprosium) => 72 000 units of moon goo/month 72k200k=14.4b (that's what a dyspro moon is worth per month with current prices) price of promethium ~90k 72k90k=6.48b list of moons (not 100% accurate) => just prom+dyspro moons in Delve are worth ~250b/month
Jeanine Brown	Posted - 2009.04.24 10:44:00 - [37] 1. It's not every day an alliance fields 98 capitals and gets them all dead. They don't have to replace capitals every day. There might be a week without any capital loss even in big alliances. 2. The industrial players/corporations "dishing out 20 capitals every 2 weeks" usually have some kind of contracts with PvP alliances/corps/players. That is why you don't see large amounts of capital ships on the market- they are built and sold directly. 3. You don't see T2 and other expensive items in public hangar mostly for preventing corp thieves getting easy access to them. Many corporations use that expensive stuff to compensate the loss of ships in fleet fights. You lose a t2 fitted tempest, they pay you the insurance fee and give the modules you had on the ship. Some corp directors keep the items for their own profit, true. You should not join such corps. 4. There is many ways an alliance gets ISK and funds to run the compensation programs. Well, you have been listed moon mining. Renter corps pay to gain access to ratting or mining. Member corps pay monthly fee depending on their roles and size. But yeah, moon mining is the Black Gold in Eve 5. Yes, you have successfully derailed a topic.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.04.24 11:50:00 - [38] Originally by: BillyBob Esq Originally by: Hyveres Originally by: faxtarious The question here should be how the F** does an alliance fund all these caps ???? According to some goons Delve alone is around 300 billion per month in moon income. And there are other regions with moons as well :) Really makes me wonder what the ** is the point of doing anything else. One of these days... one of these days.... When you divide that sum by the ~6000 goons required to gain and hold those moons (not to mention allies), it's not such an impressive sum.
Isira Aljazaer	Posted - 2009.04.24 12:20:00 - [39] I refuse to believe this faxtarious dude is not trolling all of you.
Attrezzo Pox Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.04.24 14:00:00 - [40] Originally by: Isira Aljazaer I refuse to believe this faxtarious dude is not trolling all of you. I refuse to believe Fax isn't really angry because he doesn't know how to make money. Two accounts are easy to run at the same time. I mine/rat when I'm on PVP ops. You can do both at once as long as you're not the FC. Lets look at this then... Fax, how do you explain the people you sell your GTC to? Where did THEY get that 1.4 bil you just got? They sure a **** didn't turn on the counterfeit isk module on their tech 9 hauler. That being said, and knowing what we know about 0.0, moons, and exploration, how can you honestly convince yourself that those people buying GTCs aren't actually pushing the Timecodes to alts that make them so much isk they can afford to buy Eve time with it and still have enough left over for a carrier or what have you? ------------------------- PoX IS Eve!!! BOOM!!!
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2009.04.24 14:03:00 - [41] I have been in two of the seven largest cap battles in Eve, does that make me cool?
Panzram GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.24 15:29:00 - [42] you see what happens is whenever anyone loses a cap ship they petition and its like an auto petition you just say "halp my nagelfar!! ther was lag!!" and boom ther eis instantly a new cap ship in your station w/ faction/deadspace mods and fuel. noone has accually had to produce a new cap ship since 2007.
Firkragg Blue Labs Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.04.24 16:16:00 - [43] Moon mining is definately the way most alliances support their cap fleets and other activites. E-O was almost certainly the most cap losses ever. Your figure is ALOT lower than the actual number killed since the system was lagged to hell and no killmails were being produced for the majority of kills. The only fight which could come close was the syndicate on involving us recently.
Tellenta Gallente Invicta. Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.04.24 17:21:00 - [44] Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Originally by: faxtarious It,s weird... you never see these in science and indy forum... tall they talk about up there is Veldspar So close to the answer... So close yet so far. A steady supply of veldspar is really all you need for cap production. It's just how you get it that varies from person to person. I have sold approx 2 GTC in my time in eve, 1 was because a corpmate needed a gtc because they fail at credit/debit cards. The other was because I paid off my credit card and 1 loan saving me roughly $500 a month in bill payments and I was splurging a paycheck. None of my GTC's went in to capital purchases, and I have purchased 3 Dreadnaughts and 1 freighter in the past 6ish months. Now I am not the richest character in eve, actually I am perpetually poor, but earning a billion isk here and there when you need to earn it is not that hard you just need to understand how this game works, or at least vaguely which is my case and the isk will flow. Or you can whine on the forums.
jmat Gallente	Posted - 2009.04.24 18:42:00 - [45] OP Confirms it, all alliance's buy isk and gets shady hand outs by CCP.
Trind2222 Amarr The Red Ring	Posted - 2009.04.24 19:08:00 - [46] Originally by: jmat OP Confirms it, all alliance's buy isk and gets shady hand outs by CCP. Then chibra is a isk buyer. Lot of ways to earn isk in eve mission,trade,scam,mining,data core framing,ratting,exploration,salvaging,plex cards(or gtc) ,production,moon mining. ____________ Wrangler comes back out wearing his wizard hat and robe Wrangler: Hail and well met from Blizzard, how might I assist you?
lHutorol	Posted - 2009.04.24 19:13:00 - [47] Edited by: lHutorol on 24/04/2009 19:15:10
Valkorsia Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.24 20:39:00 - [48] Edited by: Valkorsia on 24/04/2009 20:41:27 Wow, this thread got derailed and needs some cleanup. Fitz, look at the July 25-27 2008 battles in SV5-8N in Catch ... -A-/UNL vs. CVA/Paxton/IAC/S3verance/Aegis Militia/Cold Steel/Libertas Fidelis (numerous other Providence bloc corps and alliances). Believe over 50 caps died in one engagement -- both sides. There were two battles, where over 70 caps were lost, but the first day -A- took heavy losses before logging off their dreads midfight ... or lag, or 'something'. The battle report is on -A- killboards. CVAs boards are private and IACs no longer exist; Paxton's killboards only show a portion of those involved. The fight was spurred when Paxton claimed Sov in SV5 in Catch. -A- eventually reclaimed it.
Couldbe Acrackhead	Posted - 2009.04.24 21:00:00 - [49] this topic is further proof that caps are the new BS....way to go CCP
SpaceSavage tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.04.24 21:04:00 - [50] lol @ all those whining about dreads being like BS... DEAL WITH IT :D _______________
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2009.04.24 21:16:00 - [51] Originally by: Adeline Grey I have been in two of the seven largest cap battles in Eve, does that make me cool? Yes, actually. Bravo Originally by: Jeanine Brown 2. The industrial players/corporations "dishing out 20 capitals every 2 weeks" usually have some kind of contracts with PvP alliances/corps/players. That is why you don't see large amounts of capital ships on the market- they are built and sold directly. As someone working a bit further down the supply chain, I can confirm this. It also saves millions per ship on broker fees if you use private contracts. --- 20:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule
Cpt Constantinus Celestial Janissaries	Posted - 2009.04.24 23:01:00 - [52] Originally by: Couldbe Acrackhead this topic is further proof that caps are the new BS....way to go CCP Bull****, normal caps are perfectly fine. A fully fitted Dread is still around 2/2,5 billion isk which is still a lot of isk for most grunts. Cap losses are also relativly rare compared to normal battleship losses, the relativly low number of realy large capital fights should prove that.
Fitz VonHeise Foundation	Posted - 2009.04.24 23:03:00 - [53] Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 24/04/2009 23:03:49 Originally by: Valkorsia Fitz, look at the July 25-27 2008 battles in SV5-8N ... Found that one. Report It only looks like 30 caps were killed then. Any other battles?
Valkorsia Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.04.24 23:30:00 - [54] Originally by: Fitz VonHeise Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 24/04/2009 23:03:49 Originally by: Valkorsia Fitz, look at the July 25-27 2008 battles in SV5-8N ... Found that one. Report It only looks like 30 caps were killed then. Any other battles? As I said, there were two battles in roughly 48 hours in the same system. The first -A- lost, the second, they won. And with their battle reports, I believe, you have to count the ships/losses from each power block. Here is the other battle. Other battle
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2009.04.24 23:56:00 - [55] 300bill a month? this for real lol? (been outta game for a long time)
Didier Oriol Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.04.25 00:21:00 - [56] Edited by: Didier Oriol on 25/04/2009 00:23:41 Edited by: Didier Oriol on 25/04/2009 00:23:09 Originally by: Fitz VonHeise You will notice that two of those below are for same location and same battle... but show different numbers killed. And there is a battle report listed that says 123 caps were killed for that battle. I need to have actual killboards show the numbers... CH Perspective on what happened. CH Lose: 15 dreads 3 carriers TM Perspective on what happened: TM lose 2 Dreads 1 carrier Shade Perspective on what happened: Shade lose 7 Dreads & 2 carriers PL Version of what happened: 21 PL Dreads lost DACO View of the fight: DACO lose 0 capitals Totals for the "Defender" side: 45 Dreads 6 carriers (Using numbers pulled from LOSSES only on each board listed above) = 51 capitals 404 View: 404 Lose 4 Dreads 2 carriers TRI View: Tri lose 3 Carriers SOLAR Losses posted from the time of fight: 0 capitals (Note this killboard was the most difficult to find losses from the Y-W fight) White Noise View: White Noise Show 51 Dread losses 17 Carrier losses (Note this killboard seems to have the most accurate overall picture) Totals "Attacker" Side: 51 Dreads lost 17 carriers lost Totals: 96 Dreads 23 Carriers Dead = 119 Capitals dead If you use the totals from both sides of the White Noise Killboard it is: 97 Dreads 25 Carriers dead = 123 capitals Seeing as how I know that there were some allied (to CH) losses that I am unable to find on the killboard, I believe that the White Noise Killboard provides the most accurate picture of the events that unfolded during that capital bloodbath. There's the bar folks: 123 capitals dead in 1 engagement P.S. All views above do not necessarily reflect the views of CH leadership Didier Oriol Edit: Minor grammatical/spelling updates
Mauvine Fresco	Posted - 2009.04.27 04:50:00 - [57] How much isk approx would those 122 dead capitals be worth?
Crackzilla The Shadow Order	Posted - 2009.04.27 05:23:00 - [58] Originally by: Mauvine Fresco How much isk approx would those 122 dead capitals be worth? 500mil for insurance + 300mil for fittings (dreads). Spread across a lot of players and alliance/corps with spare caps, mods, isk. With insurance the replacement costs is probably going to be around 100bil at least. Sounds like a lot until you consider the number of players. Maybe about the same per player as losing half a dozen fleet bs. So it stings but most players could probably stand to lose that or a cap once a month or so. Don't get caught up in the isk amount.
Clair Bear Perkone	Posted - 2009.04.27 06:14:00 - [59] fax is trolling you all. Anyone who's been here a year longer than me with a 10 pipeline PE V production alt is a calculator short of making at least 20M/day on top of anything else they do. Even if all they produce is ammo. FWIW, I have both the skills, alts, buy order slots, financial means and disgustingly researched compression BPOs to produce caps at right around the quoted 20/month rate. I don't bother because the market simply won't support that kind of output with profit margins I'd want.
Zaiyo Modi Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2009.04.27 09:06:00 - [60] How many GTC's does ccp sell a year?

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