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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 04:56:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/04/2009 04:59:23 Biggest thing about this game when you lose a ship, which is a *****, is having to goto jita or some other trade hub and buy another ship. When are you going to implement a feature to allow the shipment of ships to low-security space?
- They would have a certain cost based on ship size. - Equipement would not be eligible. - It would be instant xfer - Shipment would be to a low-security system next to high-security system - Region based, meaning no shipments to different regions - What ever other feature you might want or restriction
This would greatly reduce time sinks and make the game so much more enjoyable.. IT should be added.
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:05:00 -
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you've been playing since, what, beta? and in this time it didn't occur to you to make an NPC alt for moving stuff?
if you're blinky, you're an outlaw. that's the punishment. either use a non-blinky alt, hire someone to do it for you, or buy in low sec/0.0. for quick rewards with no consequences, try Halo. --
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Joe
Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:05:00 -
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Sorry Tank, all Content developement atm is focused on Ambulation, giving Pilots Bottoms and Shiny Latex Pants
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nails
Caldari Ota Corps
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:08:00 -
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Faife you've been playing since, what, beta? and in this time it didn't occur to you to make an NPC alt for moving stuff?
if you're blinky, you're an outlaw. that's the punishment. either use a non-blinky alt, hire someone to do it for you, or buy in low sec/0.0. for quick rewards with no consequences, try Halo.
Im -1.2 you f'in tool. I still say this feature should be in the game. Alts can't move battleships in a transport.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:12:00 -
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For as long as I have been around, the answer has always been: why should they automate a service that the players themselves can provide? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Sul Trewtis
ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:13:00 -
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I could've sworn there's something that meets all but one of your requirements and exceeds several others. Make a courier contract with a reasonable reward and collatoral.
All the courier contracts I've made have been fulfilled quickly as they weren't the 100 million ISK collatoral with a 100 thousand ISK reward. You might not get it within a couple of seconds but if done right it'll get delivered quickly.
You could also just avoid going to the trading hubs, pay the premium, and have your ship there right then. Hell, unless it's a super rare item why would you go to Jita anyway. -------------------------------------------------- Civil Disobedience is still Disobedience The most damage is done by those that know how and not why |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:16:00 -
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So, first you blow everything up in lowsec, boasting about your pirate status and -10 security. Then you realize that there's absolutely no market there *because* every attempt at establishing some kind of industry ends up in unprofitable losses. And *now* you want CCP to circumvent the highsec ban for you so you can get the ships you need to go on in preventing more industry in lowsec.
Pathetic. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Im -1.2 you f'in tool. I still say this feature should be in the game. Alts can't move battleships in a transport.
if there was only a way to fly a battleship using one character, and then give it to another... --
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:17:00 -
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You have had couriers sent to low-sec with ease? LOL, I can't even convince people to goto low-sec, they are petrified of it.
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ollobrains
Caldari State Inc. People for Organised Peace
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:19:00 -
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Wormholes provide a random solution to a degree
Concord agents Planetary interactions And bring back mines and minefields ie anaconda mines anyone ?
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Tyllie
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/04/2009 04:59:23 Biggest thing about this game when you lose a ship, which is a *****, is having to goto jita or some other trade hub and buy another ship. When are you going to implement a feature to allow the shipment of ships to low-security space?
- They would have a certain cost based on ship size. - Equipement would not be eligible. - It would be instant xfer - Shipment would be to a low-security system next to high-security system - Region based, meaning no shipments to different regions - What ever other feature you might want or restriction
This would greatly reduce time sinks and make the game so much more enjoyable.. IT should be added.
0_0 .... Tank CEO Sold his Char... WTF!
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:26:00 -
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O Gawd, I regret even f'in posting this, bunch of arrogant, narrowminded fools.
- Yes it would benefit pirates, but piracy sucks anywas so who cares
MOST importantly, it would benefit everyone man, it would cut time consumption in half, if not more man. Traveling is time consuming for everyone. I have never minded losing a ship, its the time require to go get another one. You gota fly to a location - fit it - then fly it all the way back. Its total crap!
Btw, I only have one character. I do have an alt on same account to get ships such as cruisers or smaller but honestly.
Im simply pointing out that this game should have some independent features in it and not have a solution as "get an alt". I don't want to buy or pay for another alt. I shouldn't have too.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:27:00 -
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Tylie welcome to about a year ago i think (maybe bit less). Tank started making random topics that it was too hard for him back then, so i guess arround then his char was sold. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Joe
Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:27:00 -
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I'd only like to see it if you could shoot the interbus transports, like you can with normal npc transports leaving stations.
To the posts above, trolling a Tank thread was funny a few years ago, Boring now.
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Tyllie
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Tylie welcome to about a year ago i think (maybe bit less). Tank started making random topics that it was too hard for him back then, so i guess arround then his char was sold.
Sorry was gone for just over 2 yrs.. only been back since the apoc expansion..
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Crimsonjade
Amarr Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:36:00 -
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/emote wonders in ask Tank for a light
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Tyllie
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Crimsonjade /emote wonders in ask Tank for a light
/emote Watches Tank CEO fumble around in his strange pockets... Tank CEO looks at you and asks.. "Who are you BTW?"
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:42:00 -
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Funny how when I started making posts a while ago, everyone said I sold my account, then CCP implemented the remap feature. That was one of my posts back then, they listened. wow, whatya think about that.
In other words, stfu and listen to my advice. I have 6 year experiance. thank you very much.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Funny how when I started making posts a while ago, everyone said I sold my account, then CCP implemented the remap feature. That was one of my posts back then, they listened. wow, whatya think about that.
In other words, stfu and listen to my advice. I have 6 year experiance. thank you very much.
*Experience
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:45:00 -
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Scotty, the docking manager, thinks your ego doesn't fit in this thread. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Crimsonjade
Amarr Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO
In other words, stfu and listen to my advice. I have 6 year experiance. thank you very much.
we ignored you then Tank. and its prolly gonna happen again
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Angelos
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Funny how when I started making posts a while ago, everyone said I sold my account, then CCP implemented the remap feature. That was one of my posts back then, they listened. wow, whatya think about that.
In other words, stfu and listen to my advice. I have 6 year experiance. thank you very much.
I have 6 year experience too and I still think it's a stupid idea.
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Tyllie
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:54:00 -
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/emote watches this new Tank CEO try to hide... and eagerly looks forward to th impending admonition through a 'POD or POST" ...
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4 LOM
United Gamers
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Posted - 2009.04.23 05:59:00 -
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Worst idea ever.... half of eve is about logistics.
If you cant be assed to setup and use an alt... you can use contracts.
Or you can work something out, a few years ago i used to run ships and gear to a pirate corp in low sec, they simply placed orders with me and i would run what i could out to them in return they paid quite well and obviously did not shoot me.
Anyways if you cant get what you need yourself, for the right price someone will do it for you, and with the advent of contracts its much much easier.
Lastly instant transfer is the absolute worst part of this idea, total destroys the eve market as it currently is. Plus its really stupid.
Originally by: Twilight Moon of course you have nice hair. That pod goo, is actually VO5 conditioner.
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Trustworthy Joe
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Posted - 2009.04.23 06:04:00 -
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Tank CEO is the new jenny spitfire, everyones riding his account at one point _______________________
with a name as trustworthy as mine, i cant POSSIBLY be an alt
Originally by: CCP Navigator I locked this thread BECAUSE OF FALCON
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Tyllie
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.23 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Trustworthy Joe Tank CEO is the new jenny spitfire, everyones riding his account at one point
Jenny Spitfire No. 6 bought Tank CEO?
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Pa1nbringr
The Royal Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.23 06:34:00 -
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Some of you fools should hold your tongues before you start spitting crap out of your mouths. I've known Tank forever, and can guarantee you that's the same person that created the account years ago. Someone is going to tell me I sold my account too, you little ****s can eat ****. -
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions Dark Solar Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.23 06:49:00 -
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Sure, why not make the market so that if you buy something it automatically pops up in the items hangar of your current station.
Originally by: Stitcher It's "Caldari", not "Caldarians". One Caldari, three Caldari, all the Caldari are doing Caldari things using Caldari tools in a Caldari way.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia For as long as I have been around, the answer has always been: why should they automate a service that the players themselves can provide?
…question remains. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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Dopefish
Amarr Quad and Fish
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Posted - 2009.04.23 07:43:00 -
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I agree with OP. The worst thing by far with eve pvp is logistics.
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Shinnen
Caldari Northern Intelligence BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/04/2009 04:59:23 Biggest thing about this game when you lose a ship, which is a *****, is having to goto jita or some other trade hub and buy another ship. When are you going to implement a feature to allow the shipment of ships to low-security space?
- They would have a certain cost based on ship size. - Equipement would not be eligible. - It would be instant xfer - Shipment would be to a low-security system next to high-security system - Region based, meaning no shipments to different regions - What ever other feature you might want or restriction
This would greatly reduce time sinks and make the game so much more enjoyable.. IT should be added.
After having just moved to stain, I can only say YES to this.
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:13:00 -
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This is region only type of feature. Meaning, you couldn't buy a Ship and have it xfered all the way to stain from Jita.. This will ensure balance
Its funny you people speak of logistics. Aren't there jump freighters that can jump from high-sec to 0.0 with no problem?
- Restrictions would be to only be able to transport a ship to a low-sec system 1 jump away from highsec - Another restriction could be made to only allow a 'instant' transfer to the high-sec system 1 jump from destination, then have a 'npc' transport deliver the ship manually (meaning having to jump into low-sec and dock which would require a possible escort) but I think that would be to complicated to implement. - This service would promote fair pricing - This service would also DEDUCT a crap load of time just for getting ships. I mean, say you lose a ship in low-sec, it takes at least an hour to get yourself or an alt to pick up equipement/ship so you can go back out and fight.. What if you could eliminate that time and get back out to fight. I mean, 1 hour is a long time... man, right now, playing this game is like going to disney land, you pay money to goto it, spend hours in line and only got to ride 2 rides in a whole day! I just wanna be able to play more man. - Maybe have a skill be required to use this feature?
- 0.0 would be not eligible for this feature for obvious reasons.
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Salvo Brunel
Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:15:00 -
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Edited by: Salvo Brunel on 23/04/2009 08:16:47 Edited by: Salvo Brunel on 23/04/2009 08:15:26
Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/04/2009 04:59:23 Biggest thing about this game when you lose a ship, which is a *****, is having to goto jita or some other trade hub and buy another ship. When are you going to implement a feature to allow the shipment of ships to low-security space?
Traders would be willing to provide an equivalent service - providing ships for sale in low-sec. The problem is that you are too tight to be willing to pay for this. It takes time, effort and risk to get the ships into low-sec, but but if these ships are priced 10% above Jita, then people don't buy them.
You are not just asking for a magical delivery service, you want it to cost peanuts too.
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Alora Venoda
GalTech Whiskey Creek Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia For as long as I have been around, the answer has always been: why should they automate a service that the players themselves can provide?
i would love to be able to make more profit by selling in lowsec... and i have to some extent. the main problem is that my potential customers seem to prefer to attack incoming shipments and do all their actual shopping in hisec like everyone else.
and then consider that to sell battleships in lowsec on any significant scale would require regular freighter runs and/or lowsec mining ops...
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:24:00 -
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Yes to this.
InterBus would provide a service, shipping cargo in haulers with the equivalent tank of an un-tanked T1 hauler. If you ship things longer distances, multiple packages will be gathered up in a single freighter. (Think 1/8 the tank of a T1 freighter, moving billions of ISK worth of player goods from jita to ours.
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Lonzo Kincaid
Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:34:00 -
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yes, but not to low sec, that's just ******ed. ----------------------
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Tom Zoll
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:42:00 -
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This service would kill the game... Every corp Iv been in(low sec or 0.0) has always had some kind of infrestructure where thay have ships deliverd(or built) to the area we are operating. so your corp fails why dont we just change the game for you...
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Bonny Lee
Caldari The Guardian Agency Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.23 08:59:00 -
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Im no trader but no thanks to this. 1-2 Jumps ok but not a whole region.
This would kill the difference between the systems in a whole region. You couldnt have a little place to sell profitable cause you now had to compete with every other system in EvE.
If this is implemented then only with a Minimum of +25% to the price of the item. But then? Why dont you make a courier contract? This idea is not good and only there to make it easier for some people and in the same time killing parts of eve.
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Vrikshaka
Transmental Unicorn Business Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.23 09:08:00 -
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Piracy doesn't need to be made easier.
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Mallikanth
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Posted - 2009.04.23 09:09:00 -
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I know where you're coming from on this, Tank but I don't think it's a solution (any solution, not just your suggestion) that CCP should provide.
The players should, and often do, sort this logistic problem out themselves. When your corp / alliance can't, then you have a problem within that Corp / alliance not with the game itself.
Feed thyself young (old?) one.
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Mr Reason
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Posted - 2009.04.23 09:11:00 -
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Trading, hauling and logistics are a very important part in EVE and, as it should be in a proper MMO, requires actual player input. It's another facet of the game, which makes it more interesting and diverse.
Interbus should NEVER happen.
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MILK Monk
Knights of the Silver Dawn Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.23 09:52:00 -
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is that hard to manufacture own ship? just mine or buy material manufature it! or ask other play to deliver ships for you... just pay ISK for it! easy right? __________________________________ I do it myyyy wayyyy... Milky Way. |
Elaine Wiggan
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Posted - 2009.04.23 10:00:00 -
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I get paid A lot OF ISK as my main source of income . moving ships to and from high to low sec, I would have to say even consiering this will harm the market in more ways than you can even imagine, I ship t2's goods all around , minerals * all manner of low sec goods to high and back.
This concept is stupid beyond belief.
< Posted with alt - to avoid the gate bubbles :) )
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Lady Galadriel
Thief Hunters of Orion's Alliance Safe And Fun Environment
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Posted - 2009.04.23 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Alts can't move battleships in a transport.
No but other players can in freighters .. move on tank mate, your talking arse again cause your a lazy bastard :)
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 10:08:00 -
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You guys act like this is so bad its going to destroy the game? Why? Why will it destroy the game? All it would do is make the game better because you will be able to buy ships instantly...
No more waiting.. This kind of feature would ONLY, ONLY apply to ships, no equipment, no trade goods, no minerals.
Interbus would be restricted by the following rules.
- Only useable once every 2 hours - Only able to ship to locations in same region - If transporting to a location in low-sec, the system must be next to a high-sec system - Capital Ships will not be eligible - A cost would be required for this feature based on ship size - Ship will be deliver with 25-50% armor (to prevent this feature from being used as 'reinforcements') - 0.0 will not be eligible for this feature
Everyone will benefit from this man. Everyone.
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Galadriel
Originally by: Tank CEO Alts can't move battleships in a transport.
No but other players can in freighters .. move on tank mate, your talking arse again cause your a lazy bastard :)
Yea name one person who will transport a battleship in a freighter to a person he doesn't know..
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Mallikanth
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Posted - 2009.04.23 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Yea name one person who will transport a battleship in a freighter to a person he doesn't know..
Yes, that takes me back to my earlier post on this subject where you need to get corp or alliance mates to help out, especially with no alt available.
Like I said, I see where your coming from, but I think this is a no no for CCP to supply a "fix".
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Yo Sup
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Posted - 2009.04.23 10:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO ...name one person who will transport a battleship in a freighter to a person he doesn't know..
o/
How many and where do you want them?
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Trucker Mike
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Posted - 2009.04.23 10:32:00 -
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Just because your corp is too sh*ty to have a logistics system in place, doesn't mean the game needs to be overhauled.
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 10:33:00 -
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Perhaps the people who are for this idea could club together to form a coalition that would protect another body of people who agreed to deliver these ships & modules to low-sec on a regular basis? Y'know, a symbiotic relationship between two parties with a mutual need who have otherwise contrasting ideals.
The thing is with this is that the foundations are there in the game for this sort of thing to be possible, but if you're the sort of person who just wants to see the pretty ship explosions of any transport ship that appears in low-sec, without a wider consideration for the longer-term implications for you, then you're your own worst enemy really.
Not saying that you should stop pirating (obviously), but that you probably have the means if this is such a concern to you to rectify the problem yourself, with like-minded pirates who agree with your position.
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Cors
It's A Trap
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Posted - 2009.04.23 11:08:00 -
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I'd love interbus.
Though I would see a slightly different version.
It'd cost based on the distance, and sec status.
It would NOT be instant. It'd take the same amount of time it would take a freighter to move there. This is for RP value as well as a limiter on how fast things could be moved.
Delivery to low sec would cost more.
Delivery to 0.0 would only be possible to 0.0 Outposts with a special upgrade to the outpost that would cost as much as the outpost itself. Delivery to 0.0 would be delayed at least 24hrs.
Example. You want to move a Fully fit/rigged/ammo'd Tier 3 BS from Jita to lowsec. The ship would cost say.. 250K per jump in highsec, 500K per jump in lowsec, and 1 mil per jump in 0.0.
Only Ships, ammo, Modules, Rigs would be moveable. Mins, fuels, building components, trade goods, and so on could not be moved.
This would mean you could move a Tier 3 Fully fit ship to highsec for only a few mil. To lowsec for more, and to 0.0 for a lot more. It may cost you up to 20% of the cost of the item to have it moved from Jita to deep in 0.0 space.
Would people pay for it? SURE they would.
It'd be a great isk sink for the game. Hell, overnight it'd change how people buy/sell.
Just think of all the extra time folks could spend on making isk, blowing things up, and so on.
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Bonny Lee
Caldari The Guardian Agency Guardian Federation
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Posted - 2009.04.23 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Cors Hell, overnight it'd change how people buy/sell.
I dont know why that should be good. The market is one of the very good things in eve. And its fun to go and buy something from time to time.
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Dark Soldat
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.04.23 11:43:00 -
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i haz ur corpse
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Blumefeld
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Posted - 2009.04.23 11:51:00 -
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Pirates moaning about rubbish logistics is my favorite thing in EVE. "Oh look a hauler "POP" Damn I'm so 1337 in my ganking BS"....."Waaah. No-one will bring me replacements for ships I lose (Sound of dummy being spat and hitting the floor)" If you live somewhere hostile you have to accept the penalties and if you aren;t getting shipments into your systems then your buy orders aren;t worth enough for the hassle of dealing with characters like you in game on gates. Either get you hand in your pocket and pay more or get your own logistics sorted out. What you want next? An NPC fleet to attack POS's if you pay "Inter-POS-Destruction-bus" because you can;t get a fleet together to do it yourself?
EVE is all about the players. Not pandering to lazy characters who can;t be bothered to work for their stuff
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Andres Talas
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Posted - 2009.04.23 11:53:00 -
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TankCEO,
I'm willing to quote on your contract.
Please put up appropriate guarantees with Chribba that I wont get ganked while I deliver your stuff.
Failing that, can I have your stuff ?
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Damo xenos
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Posted - 2009.04.23 12:24:00 -
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This is stupid
CCP made courier contracts, to keep as much as possible player controlled, like the market, why oh why would you want to change one of the best things about eve?
I agree with the person talking about your corp/alliance, most corps I have been part of have a jump frieghter service or even a carrier service for those rigged ships, to be brought to 0.0 or low sec, they are usually pretty well priced aswell, most just asking you pay fuel cost plus a little more
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Ettu
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Posted - 2009.04.23 12:58:00 -
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Interbus is a silly idea and would signal the end of courrier contracts and while you're at it you might as well remove all hauling ships from New Eden. Managing logistics is a big part of what makes Eve such an immersive environment. Why cut good parts out of the game?
If you're truly having a problem getting ships etc to you location you might come to 'an arangement' with a manufacturing and logistic corp in game.
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Tyllie
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Pa1nbringr Some of you fools should hold your tongues before you start spitting crap out of your mouths. I've known Tank forever, and can guarantee you that's the same person that created the account years ago. Someone is going to tell me I sold my account too, you little ****s can eat ****.
Ssshhhhhh... boner.
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Shar LaMayne
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:32:00 -
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Sure someone could contract me to bring a ship into low sec. Upon arrival I would get popped. Or it might be a setup popping. Blinky folks shoot everyone, and now folks don't want to come out and deliver stuff.
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The Riddik
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/04/2009 04:59:23 Biggest thing about this game when you lose a ship, which is a *****, is having to goto jita or some other trade hub and buy another ship. When are you going to implement a feature to allow the shipment of ships to low-security space?
- They would have a certain cost based on ship size. - Equipement would not be eligible. - It would be instant xfer - Shipment would be to a low-security system next to high-security system - Region based, meaning no shipments to different regions - What ever other feature you might want or restriction
This would greatly reduce time sinks and make the game so much more enjoyable.. IT should be added.
dumb idea, and really is this the tank we know so well? or is a ebay tank thast comes up with silly ideas.
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:45:00 -
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How is it a silly idea? INTERBUS is ccp's idea..
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Shinnen
Caldari Northern Intelligence BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO How is it a silly idea? INTERBUS is ccp's idea..
Yes, I think half the people here don't understand what Interbus is.
Interbus have like no enemies:
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Norian Lonark
Gallente Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.23 14:15:00 -
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Edited by: Norian Lonark on 23/04/2009 14:20:58 I dont like this idea, logistics is part of the game, and this service is something that most corps have setup and can provide. Implementing this would have negative impact on markets, traders & haulers.
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El Kaposo
Amarr Simtech Industrial Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 14:25:00 -
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Gathering stuff after being killed is part of the harsh death penalty in eve. Deal with it.
Oh, and you can build a battleship in lowssec. Getting the minerals there either by buy orders or hauling isn't that much of a big deal.
I would hate, if eve became a 'die-respawn-die-respawn...' game like so many others.
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plastastic
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Posted - 2009.04.23 14:38:00 -
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Edited by: plastastic on 23/04/2009 14:39:11
Originally by: The Riddik
Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/04/2009 04:59:23 Biggest thing about this game when you lose a ship, which is a *****, is having to goto jita or some other trade hub and buy another ship. When are you going to implement a feature to allow the shipment of ships to low-security space?
- They would have a certain cost based on ship size. - Equipement would not be eligible. - It would be instant xfer - Shipment would be to a low-security system next to high-security system - Region based, meaning no shipments to different regions - What ever other feature you might want or restriction
This would greatly reduce time sinks and make the game so much more enjoyable.. IT should be added.
dumb idea, and really is this the tank we know so well? or is a ebay tank thast comes up with silly ideas.
the tank that did zombies, destroying empire for everyone(and willing to get baned for it), Concordokken, and that ****ed off carebear video quit a long time ago
o and bad idea kills any ideas selling ships in lowsec for markups
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO How is it a silly idea? INTERBUS is ccp's idea..
Yes, and not implementing them because it should be up to players to do it is also CCP's idea… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.04.23 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO, ad infinitum man
FFS stop calling everybody 'man'. It stinks - I'm not your man, most of the people here aren't your men, and sure as **** some of them are women so there goes your cod-friendliness out of the window
Additionally, for a player that has "six years experiance" (sic) in the game it is frankly embarrasing how little you understand how CCP's vision of the economy translates into the game, and you sure as hell know very little about how the game pertains to operate. You surely can't sit there and tell us all with a straight face that you can't see why people have issues with this - you basically want an "insta-route" into lowsec to replace all the crap that you lose in PVP?
Unbelievable.
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2009.04.23 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Lindsay Logan on 23/04/2009 14:57:32
Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/04/2009 07:57:42 Funny how when I started making posts a while ago, everyone said I sold my account, then CCP implemented the remap feature. That was one of my posts back then, they listened. wow, whatya think about that.
In other words, stfu and listen to my advice. I have 6 year experience. thank you very much.
Yes, they implemented it soley since you said it!
6 years expereince, and still you make such silly ideas?
Make a buy order in low sec, and make it worth someones time to actually sell it there. Or make a freight contract.
All the tools are in the game already, jsut use them.
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motomysz
No Limit Productions Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.04.23 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar So, first you blow everything up in lowsec, boasting about your pirate status and -10 security. Then you realize that there's absolutely no market there *because* every attempt at establishing some kind of industry ends up in unprofitable losses. And *now* you want CCP to circumvent the highsec ban for you so you can get the ships you need to go on in preventing more industry in lowsec.
Pathetic.
He's only -1.2 you ignorant twits.
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Wensleydale Stephenson
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Posted - 2009.04.23 15:56:00 -
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Loving the low sec pirate tears....tasting goooooood Can I have your stuff? Oh...you haven;t got any cos noone likes you and wont haul any for you. Shame.
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Akiba Penrose
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Posted - 2009.04.23 15:59:00 -
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When i had a outlaw security status i used to place buy orders in Amamake. Most of them where filled in just a few hours by noobs making a quick buck. I even had a chat with a few of them and had them run special orders.
I did not try orders for BS and BC, but i do think that they would be delivered quite fast also. Atleast in a region with a big trade hub.
So the tools are there,, and they work fine imo
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Jonan Hannon
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.23 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: motomysz
Originally by: Abrazzar So, first you blow everything up in lowsec, boasting about your pirate status and -10 security. Then you realize that there's absolutely no market there *because* every attempt at establishing some kind of industry ends up in unprofitable losses. And *now* you want CCP to circumvent the highsec ban for you so you can get the ships you need to go on in preventing more industry in lowsec.
Pathetic.
He's only -1.2 you ignorant twits.
Which now just makes him pig-ass lazy, doesn't it.
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Faife on 23/04/2009 16:00:15 i'm astounded someone could have played this long and be such a noob.
the game is functioning EXACTLY as intended. it's an ecosystem, pirates make space dangerous, ergo no one keeps a market in it
how about you set up a logistic corp and use your mad pvp skills to protect them while they go from gate to station? you could accomplish your goals and make huge isk. or are you too pathetic to do anything besides gank haulers?
EDIT: it's an MMO. CCP should not on any condition provide any services that can be done by other players for a fee. --
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.23 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO ... man, right now, playing this game is like going to disney land, you pay money to goto it, spend hours in line and only got to ride 2 rides in a whole day! I just wanna be able to play more man.
That's a pretty accurate description tbh
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 16:14:00 -
[76]
Originally by: ElCoCo
Originally by: Tank CEO ... man, right now, playing this game is like going to disney land, you pay money to goto it, spend hours in line and only got to ride 2 rides in a whole day! I just wanna be able to play more man.
That's a pretty accurate description tbh
All you nay sayers need to realise that the biggest negative aspect of Eve is the disproportionaly long periods of inactivity/staleness/boredom before actualy doing something.
good. keeps the riff raff out. --
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Alarik Frisch
Minmatar GARDIAN DIVISION 00 Republic Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.23 16:26:00 -
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Screw the ship moving stuff, fine with that.
But PLEASE allow me to buy a ticket on interbus so I can travel to a distant location while logged off for the night. I mean, isn't Interbus' whole job to transport people? In the far future, I can't buy an airline ticket?
Heck, limit it to empire, charge me an arm and a leg, but for crying out loud let me buy a ticket on the interbus express!
harumph
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Matrix Skye
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.04.23 16:31:00 -
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Tank CEO's To-do List
1) Kill everything on site in lo sec
2) Brag about it in the forums 3) Whine on how lo sec is empty and has no viable market
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Alarik Frisch Screw the ship moving stuff, fine with that.
But PLEASE allow me to buy a ticket on interbus so I can travel to a distant location while logged off for the night. I mean, isn't Interbus' whole job to transport people? In the far future, I can't buy an airline ticket?
Heck, limit it to empire, charge me an arm and a leg, but for crying out loud let me buy a ticket on the interbus express!
harumph
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Jaina Proudmoar
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.04.23 18:39:00 -
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This is a terrible idea.
I'm still not convinced that this is the real Tank CEO.
(Or, the real Tank CEO has been smoking a lot of crack ... )
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Grek Forto
Malevolent Intentions Dark Solar Empire
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Posted - 2009.04.23 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jaina Proudmoar This is a terrible idea.
I'm still not convinced that this is the real Tank CEO.
(Or, the real Tank CEO has been smoking a lot of crack ... )
Lol, this isn't the original Tank CEO. The old one was cool.
Originally by: Stitcher It's "Caldari", not "Caldarians". One Caldari, three Caldari, all the Caldari are doing Caldari things using Caldari tools in a Caldari way.
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Daelorn
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Posted - 2009.04.23 19:06:00 -
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Edited by: Daelorn on 23/04/2009 19:06:28
Originally by: Jaina Proudmoar This is a terrible idea.
I'm still not convinced that this is the real Tank CEO.
(Or, the real Tank CEO has been smoking a lot of crack ... )
It is the real Tank.
I agree with smoking crack
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2009.04.23 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Akiba Penrose When i had a outlaw security status i used to place buy orders in Amamake. Most of them where filled in just a few hours by noobs making a quick buck. I even had a chat with a few of them and had them run special orders.
I did not try orders for BS and BC, but i do think that they would be delivered quite fast also. Atleast in a region with a big trade hub.
So the tools are there,, and they work fine imo
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.04.23 19:40:00 -
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Horrid idea. There are ways to get this done ingame already...get a corpmate with a freighter. Or, haul in the minerals and build the BS yourself.
All your suggestion would do is make EVE even smaller and **** with regional markets even more than they already are.
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Hanns
Amarr Secret Service
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Posted - 2009.04.23 19:46:00 -
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I can vouch for Tank being the origional guy, known him for six years, spoke to him on TS many times, he never sold his account.
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Drunk Driver
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.04.23 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/04/2009 04:59:23 Biggest thing about this game when you lose a ship, which is a *****, is having to goto jita or some other trade hub and buy another ship. When are you going to implement a feature to allow the shipment of ships to low-security space?
- They would have a certain cost based on ship size. - Equipement would not be eligible. - It would be instant xfer - Shipment would be to a low-security system next to high-security system - Region based, meaning no shipments to different regions - What ever other feature you might want or restriction
This would greatly reduce time sinks and make the game so much more enjoyable.. IT should be added.
YOU ARE LAZY!
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jhon whang
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Posted - 2009.04.23 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO How is it a silly idea? INTERBUS is ccp's idea..
So is Ambulation...
Not a valid point imo.
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Bargain Hunt
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Posted - 2009.04.23 19:52:00 -
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place.a.freaking.buy.order
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 23/04/2009 20:25:01 You should try "Buy Orders" and some patience.
It's rare to see a reasonable Buy Order on the market for more than two days. Especially over the weekend. I know because I check them. Try it sometime. Start with what you'd pay in Jita or wherever and then add couple mil or so. Throw in the fittings for that matter and sweeten the deal. Then camp the empire jump for the next few days and you may even get it for free! Pew pew heartily included!
That's worked for me countless times. And yes I know buy orders are region wide. It shouldn't matter, any trader worth his salt has alts in the nearest regions to his home region ESPECIALLY low sec.
Contracting such a thing rarely works, because no one checks through all those freakin' contracts.
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Sri Nova
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Posted - 2009.04.23 20:24:00 -
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i really do not think there should be any mechanics implemented that take shipping logistics out of the hands of players.
i know this makes living in 0.0 a PITA but thats 0.0
if you want shipping in 0.0 then maybe ccp could implement better tools for us players.
but i say nay to the idea of some untouchable entity created by ccp.
my idea would be to create a new ship type that has several turret bays each bay can be piloted by a live player each turret can do some serious damage. so small shipping corps can adequately protect goods with ships that can defend them selves . and actually make travel to 0.0 although still risky actually possible.
also with the new tech 3 cruisers they have cloak and warp bubble negation (thats how i understand it) so maybe you will see some more shipping services spring up.
but regardless shipping logistics should be in the hands of the players . we just need better tools.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.04.23 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sidus Isaacs on 23/04/2009 20:28:02 Terrible terrible idea form someone with supposedly a lot of expereince.
I agree on not having deliveries to low sec. Go get the ship your self if you got the standing, or use contracts to have it deliverd. Or get an alt.
Part of living in remote low sec is the logistics to the low sec systems.
Just deal with it, or go to WoW.
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sri Nova i really do not think there should be any mechanics implemented that take shipping logistics out of the hands of players.
i know this makes living in 0.0 a PITA but thats 0.0
if you want shipping in 0.0 then maybe ccp could implement better tools for us players.
but i say nay to the idea of some untouchable entity created by ccp.
my idea would be to create a new ship type that has several turret bays each bay can be piloted by a live player each turret can do some serious damage. so small shipping corps can adequately protect goods with ships that can defend them selves . and actually make travel to 0.0 although still risky actually possible.
also with the new tech 3 cruisers they have cloak and warp bubble negation (thats how i understand it) so maybe you will see some more shipping services spring up.
but regardless shipping logistics should be in the hands of the players . we just need better tools.
Erm, maybe the industry corps should do what all good industry corps do and negotiate a NAP for an alliance. Some of them even have nifty little IGB web pages where you send them an equipment list and they put it in your hanger the very next day. I've found 0.0 after Jump Freighters and Jump networks is hardly roughing it. More like a more fun empire now. And yes there are entire corps dedicated to hauling into 0.0. With places for you n00bears to puttputt out in your indy and snatch up the modules and so ons for the big freighter jump into 0.0. *-------------------------* PoX IS Eve!!! BOOM!!! |
Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.23 21:11:00 -
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Why don't you people read my post before posting. I said that ships would only be eligible for this feature, not equipment, and 0.0 would not be eligible either..
Fine call me lazy, I just don't think that its necessary that we have to spend hours on just getting a damn ship to a location we want. Im not -10, i actually lowered it months ago so i can get ships just a simple as you can, but its THE TIME required to get them, its rediculous. I just want to spend more time hunting rather than going and getting ships 20 jumps away or 30 jumps away.
Interbus was a idea introduced by CCP. It should be reveiwed and implemented with the proper restrictions soley to reduce time consumption in the game. Its not just to make my 'pirating' easier. I haven't played in almost 6months. I want to get back into eve but I can't because well, its boring. So I look at ideas that I want to see in the game so that maybe ill come back if its implemented.
Theres to much time consuming things that could be instant to make the game more enjoyable. Also means more killing, less bull**** autopilot.
Its ironic though, you speak of player interaction, but what happened with sentry guns? You guys couldn't kill the pirates yourselves, so you asked ccp for protection and they gave it to you. I simply want a delivery feature, for a cost that will help reduce time wasted on doing things like getting a ship..
Look at warp to zero, it was put in to help reduce time travel and everyone likes it. Why not like my idea?
For everyone who says this will hurt the market, you are so full of ****. With my restrictions listed, this would in no way hurt the market. Btw, im a impatient person. I might try buy orders, but they will still take days to fill and that defeats the whole purpose. I want it instant. Thank you.
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Iyhi Baal
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Posted - 2009.04.23 21:59:00 -
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If time is a factor then do what we industrial types have learned to do -- pre - order the ships that you need.
I find it rather amazing that under the same general channel we have one pirate on a soap box asking CCP to remove missions and increase taxes on empire dwellers and just below it another pirate is asking for an automatic NPC service to deliver ships to low sec.
While we are at it lets have a NPC service that scouts wormholes for us. We can then get Interbus to ship the goodies back to empire. Why stop there -- go ahead and put the stuff on contract and send me a ping using the api so that I know when my wallet has been stuffed. I could go on for ever with these "great ideas " that totally break EvE...
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Use the tools that we have already: Here is how it is should be done Mr. I've been here since beta; Tell me what ship you want, How many you need, Where you want them. Provide me reasonable cover getting them there -- either with a suitable collateral or -- here's a novel idea -- fly cover for me. Provide me with suitable cover leaving.
You do those things and I will supply you anything you want. Want more, I can build you a decent trade hub anywhere you want but you have to assume some of the risk.
I may hate pirates but I love money more.
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.25 02:56:00 -
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Look, i understand your point of views, that you want the players to xfer the ships at a cost..
But im just trying to say that this game would be so much more enjoyable if there was less time spent in just fitting ships and acquiring all the items to do so..
Thats why I love sisi so much, because everything is right there, in a single station. Theres no traveling required..
Call me lazy, fine, but whatever, its a game, and I just don't like flying for an hour plus to get a ship/fitting I need. I would much rather spend that time actually having "fun" like killing.
When you lose a ship, you lose time and isk. Why can't it just be isk? The restrictions I proposed are reasonable. I mean it only applies to empire space and it is region only.
It would honestly promote people to build and sell things else where because the transportation would be priced on ship size, distance and risk. Now I haven't played ina very long time, matter of fact, for the 6 years that I've played, especialyl when I was -10, it was so DIFFICULT, almost impossible to get a person to deliver a ship to low sec and im a person who doesn't like to ask for favors from friends. I don't like owing people.
Interbus is a CCP idea and I would just like a answer from them if they still plan to introduce this new feature.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.25 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Why don't you people read my post before posting. I said that ships would only be eligible for this feature, not equipment, and 0.0 would not be eligible either..
Fine call me lazy, I just don't think that its necessary that we have to spend hours on just getting a damn ship to a location we want. Im not -10, i actually lowered it months ago so i can get ships just a simple as you can, but its THE TIME required to get them, its rediculous. I just want to spend more time hunting rather than going and getting ships 20 jumps away or 30 jumps away.
Fine, but Interbus will include the following features to make it more balanced:
* Interbus will be flying shipments in special ships. * Shooting one of those ships will get you concorded and give a (very small) sec status hit. * The interbus freighters will have the EHP equivalent of untanked T1 indies. * They will warp to 10km like the AP does for players.
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.25 03:17:00 -
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That just promotes suicide ganks on the indies..
I beleive that they should be in Transport ships if they have to travel to the destination and have a sufficient tank to withstand possible suicide attacks. Having them in a untanked T1 industrial with no tank what so ever is just stupid and the service won't be used.
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Apalonius Christ
KANGC Logistics
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Posted - 2009.04.25 03:34:00 -
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Never, it will kill trading
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.25 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO That just promotes suicide ganks on the indies..
I prefer to think of it as 'balance'.
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.04.25 04:23:00 -
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Trading and manufacture in Eve is based partly on cost vs convenience principle, just like RL.
If you want your ships NOWNOWNOW, put in a buy order at 3-10x jita price. Put in a buy for a megathron at 300 mil and I guarantee it'll get there faster than any NPC service you envision.
If you want the service to be nearly free then I propose being able to hire about 1,000,000 dps worth of jamming, neuting NPC bodyguards for when I fly around lowsec. If you want low cost NPC industry services I wouldn't mind low cost NPCs to insta-gib anyone trying to 'PvP' me. Fair is fair.
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Elite Qin
Caldari Wormhole-space Surveying and Exploitation Mass - Effect
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Posted - 2009.04.25 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO O Gawd, I regret even f'in posting this, bunch of arrogant, narrowminded fools.
- Yes it would benefit pirates, but piracy sucks anywas so who cares
MOST importantly, it would benefit everyone man, it would cut time consumption in half, if not more man. Traveling is time consuming for everyone. I have never minded losing a ship, its the time require to go get another one. You gota fly to a location - fit it - then fly it all the way back. Its total crap!
Btw, I only have one character. I do have an alt on same account to get ships such as cruisers or smaller but honestly.
Im simply pointing out that this game should have some independent features in it and not have a solution as "get an alt". I don't want to buy or pay for another alt. I shouldn't have too.
Know what else would benefit everybody? FREE SHIPS! Oh wait! *slaps forehead* No, it wouldn't! Just because you THINK it'd help people doesn't mean it's good for the game. This isn't supposed to be EVE: Easy Mode. If you have interbus, freighters become useless, industrial ships become useless, trading because too easy, etc, etc, and the EVE Economy is crippled.
Please, think beyond your own desires.
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.25 04:39:00 -
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Take your head outa your ass, this would only apply to ships and would only be applicable to same region deliveries. Damn im tired of repeating myself. How the **** would that affect trading?
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Clair Bear
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.04.25 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Take your head outa your ass, this would only apply to ships and would only be applicable to same region deliveries. Damn im tired of repeating myself. How the **** would that affect trading?
Because ships are trade goods, just like any other. Hauling a freighter full of battleships from Jita to a suicide hotspot can earn a quick 50-60 mil ISK.
Having NPCs compete with players is a baaaad idea. Like I said, if you want the service fork over the ISK. Demanding a low to no cost NPC solution to your problem is not going to get you much sympathy.
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Chinwe Rhei
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.04.25 05:54:00 -
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God no, hauling is a valid player profession and you shouldn't have access to ships at Jita prices everywhere in EvE. Particularly not where you are actively shooting the people who'd sell them to you.
If you want convenience pay the extra price and buy local. Don't give me the having to go to Jita bull**** there's minor trading hubs all over the place and many people make their isk from selling things at a markup where they are needed most, wether it's near a lowsec entrance or near a mission hub.
I'm tired of people who think time = free. If you take 30 minutes to get a ship somewhere then that's 30 minuts you didn't earn money some other way. If you payed 5 million extra and buyed local you'd probably come at a profit.
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Taedrin
Gallente Golden Mechanization Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.04.25 06:04:00 -
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Allowing 100% safe transportations of ships from high sec to low sec would be a horrible idea, as it violates one of EVE's core principals: No space is safe space. Low sec is supposed to be dangerous, and there are supposed to be certain risks that you must live with. The danger of losing a ship when you make that fateful jump from high sec to low sec is one of them. Removing this risk is a bad idea, IMO.
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Locin WeEda
Gallente Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2009.04.25 07:10:00 -
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I would not like this very much, as it would ruin much of our business.
Many of our clients have their ships (and equipment) moved with our freighters to the nearest high sec location. What is difficult for our clients are usually to get someone to move it the last jump, into low sec (as we do not provide that sort of service due to the risk to our freighters). Getting people to move a packaged battleship from Jita to the nearest high sec location is not difficult at all. All it takes is a convo (or if you are a regular client, not even that)
Constellation-based perhaps, but not region-based. Even if it gets implemented constellation based, I'd like it to be implemented in a way that players can compete with the service (e.g. by providing faster service, and thus be able to charge a premium).
Red Frog Freight Service
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Dracira Dracc
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Posted - 2009.04.26 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Edited by: Tank CEO on 23/04/2009 04:59:23 Biggest thing about this game when you lose a ship, which is a *****, is having to goto jita or some other trade hub and buy another ship. When are you going to implement a feature to allow the shipment of ships to low-security space?
Why? Just pay enough and you can get your ship in low sec. Thats they way business works.
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R3aliti
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Posted - 2009.04.26 01:01:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=905941&page=2
Search this page for Interbus.
Second quarter of what year?
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Slave 2739FKZ
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Posted - 2009.04.26 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO
Fine call me lazy, I just don't think that its necessary that we have to spend hours on just getting a damn ship to a location we want. Im not -10, i actually lowered it months ago so i can get ships just a simple as you can, but its THE TIME required to get them, its rediculous. I just want to spend more time hunting rather than going and getting ships 20 jumps away or 30 jumps away.
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Btw, im a impatient person. I might try buy orders, but they will still take days to fill and that defeats the whole purpose. I want it instant. Thank you.
Here, that's what you got wrong. This is by design, not UT on space you know, for the good or for the bad.
Move on, nothing to read here, unncessary NPC mechanics interfeering the players game, bad stuff.
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Forando
Interstellar Cowards
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Posted - 2009.04.26 01:49:00 -
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I would love to see this implemented without affecting the current player-run logistic too much. Imagine having Interbus centers placed randomly around in low-sec where you could pick up your 'packages', it would allow for more trading in low-sec, and probably make some of the areas more lively.
Also for alliances with sovereignty? I could see an alliance paying for rights to put up a Interbus shipping center at some of their stations. Question is, if this would bend the gameplay in an undesired direction. There is also a bit of pride in being a self sufficient alliance in 0.0, this pride (E-peen?) would be removed when most people could put up a shipping center anywhere they wanted.
Sure there needs to be mechanics so this feature wouldn't be used unintended. To me it sounds logically to have your shipment reside in shipping bay for 6-12 hours or more when it arrives.
Generally this feature has a lot of Pros if you ask me, and one of the largest Cons I hear is people afraid of changes - That's no news! - People are fast to conclude that this mainly helps Outlaws, and this is true, but with a change like this we might actually see more smaller corps venturing into Low-sec to make a living there, as assets will be less of a problem.
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R3aliti
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Posted - 2009.04.26 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: R3aliti Edited by: R3aliti on 26/04/2009 01:20:30 Edited by: R3aliti on 26/04/2009 01:19:59 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=905941&page=2
Search this page for Interbus.
My interest here is I have a bunch of Interbus LP and no where to cash them in. There is not a single Interbus station in the game!
Second quarter of what year?
------------------------------------------------------------------ I actually looked at this very closely about 9 months ago.
THE FACTION = The Interbus The InterBus is one of the more successful joint ventures the empires have undertaken. It was formed some 30 years ago to act as a neutral passenger transportation company that would span the entire known world. Since then it has evolved a bit, especially when it started to ferry goods too. The InterBus is used by the SCC to ferry goods between stations, as they are reliable and operate in every station in the world. As InterBus has to operate not only in empire stations, but also in pirate havens and other stations associated with organized crime, the company has to uphold a very strict policy regarding neutrality and secrecy. Even if the company is owned by the empires, no information regarding to shipments or station locations is ever given out. The strict adherence to these rules has allowed InterBus to operate without harassment in every corner of the world of EVE, making them one of the pillars of the inter-stellar community. ------------------------------------------------------------------ The Corporation = Interbus InterBus is jointly owned by the empires, but it has been careful to maintain is neutrality in all aspects. This has allowed the company to fulfill its intended role as a freighter company that ferries people and goods to and from any place in the world of EVE. InterBus has the best stellar charts and station data of anyone, but they guard this information very carefully. ------------------------------------------------------------------ The Corporation has 38 agents. NO Interbus Stations in game. I ran a bunch of Interbus missions and have a personal/corp Faction standing of 4.84 (was hopeing, just maybe to raise standings with all factions at the same time) They have soveranty in only one system in game. (Ourapheh) In reading the descriptions I though maybe it would turn out that once the Corp station was placed in Ourapheh it would act as the Interbus Hub.
What I was really wishing for was the hint that they have the best star charts that there would be long jump gates accesable only to those with a high Interbus standing to run freight through, based out of Ourapheh.
I petitioned to get more information about this and was given the quoted link above. It looks like they were in develpoment of this and then just left it hanging. So I just keep an eye out for a station everytime I go through Ourapheh and continue to hope.
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Gun Gal
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Posted - 2009.04.26 05:23:00 -
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stupid idea, period.
instant , is not applicable in EVE.
besides, having known the real tank ceo in the past, either you have started to wear dresses, or you bought that char.
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Psychotic Penguin
Gallente The Professional's Club The Second Genesis
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Posted - 2009.04.26 05:42:00 -
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feature already exists, it is called use contracts to pay nubs to move your stuff. If you can't get your stuff moved from jita to low-sec in under 24 hours then you must be really cheap and should consider offering a bit more. If you can't wait 24 hours for a new ship then learn to keep 2-3 replacements ready. ____________________________________________________ Reality is for those who have no imagination. |
R3aliti
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Posted - 2009.04.26 06:04:00 -
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ROFLMAO,
Let me and others dream. I would be willing to bet that there are several players suddenly running Interbus missions. The CONTRACT system may have met its' match.
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m3rb3aSt
Advanced Component Research Enterprise GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.26 06:17:00 -
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i would be down for a service like this under the condition that your stuff is run down by an NPC freighter and if they get popped by a bored pirate... well there goes your shipment.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.26 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Norian Lonark Edited by: Norian Lonark on 23/04/2009 14:20:58 I dont like this idea, logistics is part of the game, and this service is something that most corps have setup and can provide. Implementing this would have negative impact on markets, traders & haulers.
+1
Really horrible idea, nothing to add to the above. Logistics are part of the game.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.26 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Why don't you people read my post before posting. I said that ships would only be eligible for this feature, not equipment, and 0.0 would not be eligible either..
Fine call me lazy, I just don't think that its necessary that we have to spend hours on just getting a damn ship to a location we want. Im not -10, i actually lowered it months ago so i can get ships just a simple as you can, but its THE TIME required to get them, its rediculous. I just want to spend more time hunting rather than going and getting ships 20 jumps away or 30 jumps away.
Interbus was a idea introduced by CCP. It should be reveiwed and implemented with the proper restrictions soley to reduce time consumption in the game. Its not just to make my 'pirating' easier. I haven't played in almost 6months. I want to get back into eve but I can't because well, its boring. So I look at ideas that I want to see in the game so that maybe ill come back if its implemented.
Theres to much time consuming things that could be instant to make the game more enjoyable. Also means more killing, less bull**** autopilot.
Its ironic though, you speak of player interaction, but what happened with sentry guns? You guys couldn't kill the pirates yourselves, so you asked ccp for protection and they gave it to you. I simply want a delivery feature, for a cost that will help reduce time wasted on doing things like getting a ship..
Look at warp to zero, it was put in to help reduce time travel and everyone likes it. Why not like my idea?
For everyone who says this will hurt the market, you are so full of ****. With my restrictions listed, this would in no way hurt the market. Btw, im a impatient person. I might try buy orders, but they will still take days to fill and that defeats the whole purpose. I want it instant. Thank you.
Warp to zero was implented cause everybody did it anyway with bookmarks and it was a horrible load on the database to continue like that. So they just give it to us in a way that doesn't cause huge database loads. Had absolutely nothing to do with making travel easier.
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Killiashandra Ree
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Posted - 2009.04.26 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Killiashandra Ree on 26/04/2009 11:32:59
So you've spent all your time indiscriminately shooting anything that enters your system, then act surprised no one wants to set up a trade hub there, and now you expect someone to deliver you a shiny new ship there...
"Call me lazy, fine, but whatever, its a game, and I just don't like flying for an hour plus to get a ship/fitting I need. I would much rather spend that time actually having "fun" like killing."
Quoting for irony.
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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.27 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO Why don't you people read my post before posting. I said that ships would only be eligible for this feature, not equipment, and 0.0 would not be eligible either..
Fine call me lazy, I just don't think that its necessary that we have to spend hours on just getting a damn ship to a location we want. Im not -10, i actually lowered it months ago so i can get ships just a simple as you can, but its THE TIME required to get them, its rediculous. I just want to spend more time hunting rather than going and getting ships 20 jumps away or 30 jumps away.
Interbus was a idea introduced by CCP. It should be reveiwed and implemented with the proper restrictions soley to reduce time consumption in the game. Its not just to make my 'pirating' easier. I haven't played in almost 6months. I want to get back into eve but I can't because well, its boring. So I look at ideas that I want to see in the game so that maybe ill come back if its implemented.
Theres to much time consuming things that could be instant to make the game more enjoyable. Also means more killing, less bull**** autopilot.
Its ironic though, you speak of player interaction, but what happened with sentry guns? You guys couldn't kill the pirates yourselves, so you asked ccp for protection and they gave it to you. I simply want a delivery feature, for a cost that will help reduce time wasted on doing things like getting a ship..
Look at warp to zero, it was put in to help reduce time travel and everyone likes it. Why not like my idea?
For everyone who says this will hurt the market, you are so full of ****. With my restrictions listed, this would in no way hurt the market. Btw, im a impatient person. I might try buy orders, but they will still take days to fill and that defeats the whole purpose. I want it instant. Thank you.
What about sentrys? From my understanding they're still tankable, albeit with a bit more effort than what was required before. Oh well.
Warp at 0 was nearly a necessity. As it wasn't intended that people be able to make off gate bms to create a bookmark train. Lots of people had thousands of bookmarks and there was no getting rid of them, so to save the server resources and to save lots of *****ing and heartache they allowed warp to 0 provided the relatively new warp bubble was able to pop you out off warp some distance away from the gate.
Buy orders that are fairly priced rarely take "days" to get. If you find a decent system a jump or two from high sec you can get them in hours in low sec, minutes in high sec. People look for that stuff day in and day out to make a quick buck. Don't knock it till you try it. Furthermore, the more you place them and the more you get your buddies to place them the quicker they get filled. It's a natural response.
Also, Did you always whine this much? Interbus Schmenterbus, who gives a rats' ass? They haven't gotten around to orbits, or minigame stuff like they had in beta either. I remember being able to gamble in station some time ago. I believe it was in beta but I could be wrong it's hard to remember. Anyhow, lots of the stuff they want in here isn't. *-------------------------* PoX IS Eve!!! BOOM!!! |
Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.28 07:33:00 -
[120]
I don't even play you jackass. ITs just an idea that I would like to see implemented. It was CCP's idea and Im curious to know if they will ever implement this feature.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.04.28 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO I don't even play you jackass. ITs just an idea that I would like to see implemented. It was CCP's idea and Im curious to know if they will ever implement this feature.
Yes, it was CCP's idea and they (rightly) axed it because they realised that it's a service that should be run by players. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Attrezzo Pox
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.28 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Tank CEO I don't even play you jackass. ITs just an idea that I would like to see implemented. It was CCP's idea and Im curious to know if they will ever implement this feature.
In that case, doubtful as, like many others have said, it would ostracise a gigantic core profession to many eve denizens. You think the forums are /whine and /cryquit now. Just do something like that. There would be Penny Arcades about it. *-------------------------* PoX IS Eve!!! BOOM!!! |
Zheng Jing
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Posted - 2009.04.29 17:30:00 -
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Short form: The juvenile bullies who infest nullsec want CCP to make it even easier for them to terrorize the neighborhood kids. Nullsec is like a gigantic preschool where the teachers have quit and left the biggest toddlers in charge.
Your mommy still cut the crust off the bread before she brings your sandwich to the basement, Tank?
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Tank CEO
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2009.04.29 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Tank CEO on 29/04/2009 19:10:42 Does your mommy still breast feed you? That goes hand and hand with sentry guns for you carebears.
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Jint Hikaru
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.04.30 10:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jint Hikaru on 30/04/2009 10:39:05 Edited by: Jint Hikaru on 30/04/2009 10:35:13 Tank, I will start by saying I hate your idea. Sorry, I just do.
What I want to ask is have you played any other online games?
I played Everquest for years... started in 99, just as the first expansion came out. I was on a PvP server. Used to be when you died or got killed you would wakeup at your bindpoint (eg clone station) and had to find a bit of equipment and go and collect your good items from your corpse. This (as well as the xp loss) ment there was a real penalty for getting killed.
Now in EQ, if you die you will probably have your bindpoint set in a special zone, where for a small payment an NPC will 'summon' your corpse and all your items right to your feet. No messing, no fuss, no penalty.
There is no fear now, just do whatever you want and no consequences if things go bad. Used to get a rush I if got into PVP or was fighing with a particularly hard NPC... now, who cares, if I die I just pay a bit and poof all my stuff right there. Ruined the game.
This is what I fear will happen to Eve if ideas like yours are implemented. ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
H Lecter
Gallente The Black Rabbits Academy The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.04.30 11:26:00 -
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Solution 1) Alts Solution 2) Courier contract Solution 3) Have someone create a losec carebear corp and take them in your alliance. Let them mine in your area, produce stuff for you and haul stuff for you. When they feel relatively safe (intel channel 4tw), they will build up a market in your home station.
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