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Been ShoppingAgain
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Posted - 2009.04.23 12:28:00 -
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Edited by: Been ShoppingAgain on 23/04/2009 12:33:25 Edited by: Been ShoppingAgain on 23/04/2009 12:30:04 Hi Guys
first, yes this is an alt as i've unsubscribed my main - no point in paying for what I can't play.
OK I get this error
Fullscreen Windowed
I tried with a bunch of helpfull people in this thread (Note I said helpfull so that doesn't include CCP) but to no avail.
I have now done some more extensive testing, spent just under ú1000 trying to resolve it, 3 months and I am still failing.
So far I have tried -
4 diferent motherboards 3 diferent processors 2 diferent sets of memory 4 diferent gfx cards (2 ati, 2 nvid) 5 hard disks in mega complex dual raid arrays right down to one 300gig disk 2 diferent monitos a vga cable a dvi cable
3 diferent cases 3 pci coolers 1 spot cooler 1 old pentium fan sitting on top of the NB chipset
(The pc's are now sooo cold I can honestly use them to cool my beer!)
Vista 64 Vista 32 XP 64 XP 32 Windows 7 64
Fresh downloads of Eve client Windowed, not windowed 1 client or multiple diferent resolutions down to 640x480 from 1900x1200 Setting gfx to absolute minimum (in Eve and Windows) setting the gfx pre-render (interval?) thing to render ahead one frame
2 diferent ISPs (1 cable (Virgin 50meg) 1 ADSL (Sky)) two diferent routers
As part of the above, I have purchased a brand spanking new Dell XPS Studio I7 box and left it at standard dell hardware and also tried with my various other components.
NONE OF THE ABOVE MAKES ANY DIFERENCE
Conclusions:
I have tried so many diferent combinations, so many complex and so many vanila (simple and pure, clean) builds of Windows and hardware that the only conclusion that can be left is ITS FRAKING EVE or *SOMETHING* to do with my Chars. As yet CCP have not answered my petition which must be something like 2 months old now.
Eve (and my characters) is the ONLY COMMON DENOMINATOR
Any ideas?
edit: sorry, also 3 diferent power supplies - 1x350, 1x500 and 1x800.
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.04.23 12:47:00 -
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esc | display and graphics | advanced | set present interval = one your GFX card is overheating - having eve running at more than you video can can handle is not useful for eve - twich games maybe - eve no.
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Been ShoppingAgain
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Posted - 2009.04.23 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Been ShoppingAgain on 23/04/2009 13:00:50
Originally by: Been ShoppingAgain ....setting the gfx pre-render (interval?) thing to render ahead one frame .....
diferent resolutions down to 640x480 from 1900x1200 Setting gfx to absolute minimum (in Eve and Windows)
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3 pci coolers 1 spot cooler 1 old pentium fan sitting on top of the NB chipset
(The pc's are now sooo cold I can honestly use them to cool my beer!) ....
Reading level 1 still training  Please at least look at the previous thread and absorb the info in this one
And no its not. Its running at 55c, its rated to 105c on its manufacturers website - at least the one im using at the moment.
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RaTTuS
BIG Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:12:00 -
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I've read it ... what happens when you set interval = one ... those images are deffo GFX corruption. - usually caused by overheating. are you running an SLI mode - if so try it disabled, or with 1 card, or with 1 card and 2 displays
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Sleepkevert
Amarr Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:17:00 -
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Obviously there is still one component that must have stayed the same. With the amount of hardware you switched it this should not be happening.
The only thing that comes to mind is power. Did you try another PSU? If so, are you living in an old building by any chance? Maybe faul power out of your outlets? Check the power output and preferably the sine wave as well if you are able to.
There is nothing in EVE's programming that should be able to cause problems like this. Especially not when limited to just you. I haven't seen any other reports about this. Or prismx just enabled the crashPC flag in the database next to your char. Did you say anyting offensive to him in the past few months?  _
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Been ShoppingAgain
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS I've read it ... what happens when you set interval = one ... those images are deffo GFX corruption. - usually caused by overheating. are you running an SLI mode - if so try it disabled, or with 1 card, or with 1 card and 2 displays
Exactly the same. No Sli one card one display
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Been ShoppingAgain
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Been ShoppingAgain on 23/04/2009 13:31:46
Originally by: Sleepkevert ... 
I can promise you, that when the dell arrived it stayed as factory default for my first test = exactly the same error on a vanila, plain and simple instal of Vista 64.
Power: 3 diferent psu's ... actually, four, i forgot the one that came in the dell box! As for the mains supply, get this, i've even moved house as well!!! (although this wasn't to test eve ) edit: both modern houses that are less than estimated 10 years old
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Wellfan
Snake Eyes Inc
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Posted - 2009.04.23 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Been ShoppingAgain Edited by: Been ShoppingAgain on 23/04/2009 13:31:46
Originally by: Sleepkevert ... 
I can promise you, that when the dell arrived it stayed as factory default for my first test = exactly the same error on a vanila, plain and simple instal of Vista 64.
Power: 3 diferent psu's ... actually, four, i forgot the one that came in the dell box! As for the mains supply, get this, i've even moved house as well!!! (although this wasn't to test eve ) edit: both modern houses that are less than estimated 10 years old
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Xelios
Minmatar Broski Enterprises Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.23 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 23/04/2009 14:08:20 I don't see how graphics corruption that bad can be anything but a hardware issue, or a really bad software conflict. There must be a common thread between all those different configurations you tried, anything else just wouldn't make sense.
You can rule out your chars by creating a trial account to log into, though I really doubt they're the problem anyway.
All drivers are up to date? Any additional software that was installed on all the computers you tried?
Download CPUID for me and post a screenshot of it while EVE is running. I saw some pretty strange values for your voltages in a screenshot in the other thread.
edit: It could even be something external to the computer, like a faulty power bar. If the PSU doesn't get a nice clean supply of electricity it can lead to all kinds of hardware issues.
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Sleepkevert
Amarr Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.04.23 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Been ShoppingAgain Edited by: Been ShoppingAgain on 23/04/2009 13:31:46
Originally by: Sleepkevert ... 
I can promise you, that when the dell arrived it stayed as factory default for my first test = exactly the same error on a vanila, plain and simple instal of Vista 64.
Power: 3 diferent psu's ... actually, four, i forgot the one that came in the dell box! As for the mains supply, get this, i've even moved house as well!!! (although this wasn't to test eve ) edit: both modern houses that are less than estimated 10 years old
Perhaps you are radioactive and therefor disrupting normal computer operations? 
In al seriousness, I'm at a loss. I have no further ideas to offer on what might be wrong. In theory, can not be happening anymore... _
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Been ShoppingAgain
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Posted - 2009.04.23 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios ...Download CPUID for me and post a screenshot of it while EVE is running. I saw some pretty strange values for your voltages in a screenshot in the other thread. ...
Will do, althought tonight I have to downgrade it to Vista again (its currently on Win 7 which Nvidia's drivers are a bit cr*p. Also, this may well be a diferent machine from the previous thread... honestly can't remember which one that was done on.
Hopefully this account won't have expired by Saturday when I get to post the results.
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cinefilul
Amarr W33D Corp. Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.04.23 20:31:00 -
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I had this on a GeForce6600 GT. After 1 week, two condensers got broke with the sound of a gun (little one). I've replace them today, all is good for the moment. But in your situation, something is strange. eve is a beautiful game! |

Muskiet
Serenity Aeronautics
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Posted - 2009.04.23 21:40:00 -
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With all the stuff you've replaced, have you simply tried another computer? Makes no sence to me to throw enough money at a problem to buy yourself another computer. Or use all the parts you've got left to build one and try it on there.
Oh, I've got it running on Windows 2000. Runs great as there isn't much hogging the system, you could try that.
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Conjaq
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Posted - 2009.04.24 16:57:00 -
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as far as i can tell, the only thing you haven't changed is the PSU.
Isn't it possible to borrow one from a friend of yours? - i'm sure that's the problem, since it does look like to be hardware based.
in theory, if you have changed system, to be "just as highend" as the one before, then the power usage should be about the same, and if the PSU can't perform that amount you'll have problems in all configurations.
Another thing to change is the power cabel to the computer, from the PSU to the wall, heck if you're using extended wiring to have more "slots" for your printers, computers and so on. it might turn out the incorrect power - which may again lead to corrupted hardware performing (cryptic?)
Remember, that the hardware can be damage, and you therefore won't see a change by just changing out the PSU..
i hope you crack it, if not come back with your results :)
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Xelios
Minmatar Broski Enterprises Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.04.27 13:16:00 -
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Any updates? I'm kind of interested to see what the problem was
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man u
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Posted - 2009.04.27 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: man u on 27/04/2009 14:00:58
Originally by: Been ShoppingAgain
I have tried so many diferent combinations, so many complex and so many vanila (simple and pure, clean) builds of Windows and hardware that the only conclusion that can be left is ITS FRAKING EVE or *SOMETHING* to do with my Chars. As yet CCP have not answered my petition which must be something like 2 months old now.
if there something wrong with eve and if its not your computer then why is it that i can use eve fine along with most of the other players??. if you can't get your pc to work pay someone to fix it instead of blaming ccp for something that has nothing to do with them.
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Leon Caedo
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Posted - 2009.04.27 19:06:00 -
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Few questions:
1) Exactly what video cards were you using 2) Did you monitor the temps of your video cards at all? 3) Do you live in air conditioning or do you usually have your windows open during the summer?
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dr doooo
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Posted - 2009.04.27 23:35:00 -
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Edited by: dr doooo on 27/04/2009 23:38:49 You will probably just end up going red in the face and screaming YES YES to this, but you never know. When you tried the new dell, was absolutely everything new, as in plugs, adaptors, cables, clean new install of OS and software, drivers, keyboard/mouse, speakers, no peripherals//usb hard drives etc. What you say sounds impossible, with new absolutely everything, different houses/computers etc. Tech savvy wife who hates EVE maybe?
Edit: I think someone said above, but it should be easy to rule out EVE as the problem with a trial account and/or a mates computer or a gaming internet cafe.
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Leon Caedo
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Posted - 2009.04.28 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: dr doooo
Edit: I think someone said above, but it should be easy to rule out EVE as the problem with a trial account and/or a mates computer or a gaming internet cafe.
I would think the fact that no one else seems to have encountered this problem is proof that it's not eve. 
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lceman
Gallente Destructive Influence KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.04.29 20:45:00 -
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Either the monitors used to test with are same brand and model or your not really thruthfull,
This is vertical and horizontal sync issue.
Either try the finding the real monitor drivers or get another monitor prefereable not same brand/model.
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Malasen Takhos
Gallente The Wyld Hunt Saints Amongst Sinners
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Posted - 2009.05.01 01:28:00 -
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Brother, thou are not alone
My similar problem
After reading through the other thread, one thing occurred to me. I have recently moved into a new apartment, and I have a tramway powerline running outside my window. This powerline messes around with my TV, so it could be affecting my computer as well
If it is any comfort, at least you have saved me the frustration of trying all the solutions you have mentioned
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Mr Hellcat
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Posted - 2009.05.09 03:40:00 -
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I read this thread like a week ago, and lo and behold, just the last couple of days the exact same thing is happening to me. My solution was simple. The graphics card is running too hot. Although it is within specs of the manufacturer's posting on it's web site, a Nvidia 8800 GT. It was high. I have a third party cooler on order now to replace the stock cooling solution included with the card.
My personel opinion is this. Having lost several ATI cards due to heat issues, and now experiencing heat related issues with this card, I feel that video card manufacturers don't provide ample cooling because the aftermarket solutions make the video card take up too much real estate. Seeing that they would need to provide the same type cooling they don't possibly for fear of lost sales because a video card won't fit into a particular system.
Right now I am stable with the temp running at 76 degress C, and peaks to 82 degrees C. When I started to have the same problem as you I was running much hotter, at 90 degrees C and peaking to 93 degree C. My temp solution was to clear out the dust from my video card, my permanent solution is to reduce the operating temp with an after market product.
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Cheekything
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2009.05.09 18:34:00 -
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I know this sounds stupid and lame but have you tried just turning all graphics to the minimum spec?
I also no you may have tried this but it does sounds like a heat issue... or maybe you have a virus.
Solutions that may work on the second computer do a full reinstall of everything and only install the needed stuff, also take out the graphics card look for burning and dust.
Then try eve if it fails again something is very wrong also try installing to a non raided hard drive.
all the best hope it gets working again.
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ThaDollaGenerale
The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.12 07:12:00 -
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Edited by: ThaDollaGenerale on 12/05/2009 07:13:21 MAybe OP lives near some high tension power lines and they are causing problems.
Also, if you don't get the problem fixed, can I have your stuff?
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