Your proposal suggests displaying super locations on the star map, which is unprecedented and constitutes a major mechanics change. You then fail to explore exploits, downsides or the ramifications for super pilots which is always the sign of a bad and poorly thought through proposal.

You then go on to suggest allowing modules for some kind of hyperspace travel, allowing all players to bypass camps and choke points in any ship. Again, unprecedented and proposed with no consideration of the role gate camps play in system defence or generating combat.

Then there's the cyno changes, presumably designed because you dislike getting hot dropped. Which is fair enough, but you yet again fail to consider the roles hot drops play in Eve. Properly set up gate camps and systems* are unassailable by conventional means, hot drops are often the only mechanic they are vulnerable to.

Your proposal is fragmented, poorly thought out and covers multiple aspects of the game from changing cyno mechanics, nullifying gate camps right the way to painting a target on all super capitals. It needs serious work and you should have spent more time writing it, as it stands your proposal will never be implemented, it is too major a change for little to no benefit and highly questionable long term effects on Eve as a game.

*E.g a gate camp with scouts out for a few jumps in every direction, and systems with all the in-gates covered in bubbles. Local is bad enough in the latter systems, remove hot drops too and most ships become invulnerable.

I'll concede that the SC broadcast is unprecedented. Since they were supposed to be owned by alliances and flown in large fleets, and usually kept logged off until the support was on the field, the ramifications of SC log-ons are expected to be anticipated alliance battles. With ships that big, they are not hidden. The world knows where the US SC's are because they are so big and powerful. For the personally-owned SC, I can certainly see your point .. pun intended.

I do not worship the gatecamp Gods, so while they have a role, what doesn't have a role. Having a role doesn't mean we should pay homage to it. There are smarter ways to defend a system or generate combat, plus they don't leach IQ like gate camps do.

Hotdrops would not be the only mechanic to break into a gate camped system. The hyperdrive allows ships in without cynos and yes, that generates combat without improving the defender's position.

I have hotdropped far more than I have been hotdropped (those were major alliance conflicts). Just because I have always benefited from hotdropping others doesn't mean that I must worship the hotdrop Gods. Changing hotdrops can bring much benefit in allowing normal activities. The generation of combat on the aggressor's terms is not an unassailable justification in itself. There are many reasons to fight, and many more reasons can be created in the form of things to fight for. We are not desperate to force conflict by any means available on the aggressor's terms. Using sov based defenses and mechanics, the odds can be stacked in the defender's favor too. Some of the things proposed will improve the defender's position (which is historically the stronger position anyway).

.. and to emperor, take a hike already .. lol ..

3) Titans currently insta-pop most capital ships and are only countered by more SC

I thought that the threads OP was a little uninformed, then i got to this line here and burst out laughing.

You literally have no clue what you're talking about and thus your entire idea is crap for a litany of reasons that I'm sure have been detailed by people with a clue throughout this thread.

Dude, Grath, you are PL. Rumor has it that PL has a significant force in Titans and SC. So you should be well aware of the DD or Doomsday Device and the amount of damage it puts out against capital ships. You might also be aware of how much ehp a typical (T1) capital ship has. So your amusement must be at the idea of watching caps pop like flies smashed by DD flyswatters. I know exactly what I am talking about, and the idea is great for a plethora of reasons which have already been detailed throughout this thread. The idea is great, unless the problem is that you can't stand change. It is OK for people with a single subscription to play by themselves and be able to fly in relative security. It is OK for people to fight over important things instead of trying to catch a lone badger at a gate camp of 20 bored players.

That doesn't sound OK at all.

Unfortunately people with a single account aren't "playing by themselves", their actions effect the market and those around them. Allowing too much safety leads to mudflation and generally a really ******* boring game, which is bad.

CCP disagrees. Single accounts by themselves with too much safety are perfectly accepted within Eve. Introducing: High Sec missioning, mining, to name a couple.

One player's boredom is another player's preferred activity. CCP even condones boring and safety in the same breath. Introducing: blob gatecamping with scouts. ..

PS, I am curious to learn exactly what is mudflation. Is this going to be a new in-game commodity? lol. "Have you heard of the new moon goo? .. mudflation."

Why are you still posting?

Let it go man. Let it go.

Dude, Grath, you are PL. Rumor has it that PL has a significant force in Titans and SC. So you should be well aware of the DD or Doomsday Device and the amount of damage it puts out against capital ships. You might also be aware of how much ehp a typical (T1) capital ship has.

I do, which is why I know how stupid your idea is.

A single DD can be tanked easily by ANY dread that has 2 tank mods on it. A single DD can be tanked by any carrier that has 4 tank mods on it and buffer rigs (standard fit).

So here's you, jumping in your titan that currently runs 70 billion just in minerals and firing off your DD at a moros, who laughs at you in half armor, then proceeds to apply 15k dps to your titan. He does so in a hull that basically cost him 2 faction BS. You, in your 100 billion isk coffin can't cloak or leave the system for 10 minutes.

You see, if you had any idea what you were talking about at all, your idea might have had some basis in reality, unfortunately your entire premise is based on rumor and speculation, and basically falsehoods.

You know absolutely nothing about capital ships, despite what you may have convinced yourself of, you know less than nothing about titans, and I'm betting you're equally ignorant about supercarriers. You propose changes to systems you have no experience with for problems that no longer exist.

I tried to explain all this to you but you felt the need to come back and make the situation worse by continuing to show how ignorant of the actual facts you are.

Maybe you should wait until you understand a few more things before you start trying to suggest changes.

You will soon see that I know more about capital ships than you would like.

3) Titans currently insta-pop most capital ships and are only countered by more SC

You will soon see that I know more about capital ships than you would like, but know that the PL Titan fleets are well known across the Eve universe. With PL's dozens of titans, enemy caps disappear rather quickly, which leaves you, PL, in a pretty good battlefield position from the start. The coffins are not the wisely deployed Titans, but the caps in the fleet with the smaller number of titans. This is all rather common knowledge.

You will soon see that I know more about capital ships than you would like

Still waiting.

And then you proceeded to give out the wrong damage for a DD, and then spout off a bunch of HP numbers like you might know what you're talking about while giving naked hp numbers instead of actual fleet bonused numbers like you would encounter in a situation where you're getting DD'd.


You don't understand cap ships, you think you know how to work EFT but you're even failing at that. GG.

Your corp name says everything I think about this post.

Yes, let's give people an easier way to not have to encounter PvP EVER.

In an Iteron Mark V and need to bypass a gatecamp? No problem, just use this nifty Hyperdrive and bypass every player everywhere!

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What do you think about allowing aggressors to follow ships through the hyperspace window that they open while the ship is in hyperspace? If a ship exited hyperspace within a bubble, that could also be problematic.

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That'd work, if you know, they didn't jump from a non-descript location like a random moon or deadspace bookmark.