The portrait of Danika Princip (above) says everything I think about his post. Now where is that short bus. It's time for you to be on your way. We have important capital discussions here.

Your corp name says everything I think about this post.

The part about appearing in local doesn't even make sense. You're not warping through systems in anything resembling a conventional sense, why would you register as being in them?

Why should it be a pain in the arse to actually use my carrier?
How long should it take to jump the 13 light years I currently have the range for?

Why should it be impossible to predict where an opposing cap fleet is going to land, and how is that better than a cyno appearing on the overview?
Why is it a bad thing that caps are slow? Why is it an issue that titans can DD caps?

Why do you not have scouts? A cloaked alt in an enemy's cap staging system tells you exactly what you're facing, and allows you to plan a counter.

I won't pretend to be a capital FC, I'm just a grunt, but you pretty clearly do not understand capital ships. Or tactics. Or intelligence. Or counters.

Your thoughts on the op's post is "Tartarus Ventures?"

Since a cap ship travels in a straight line to the system it jumps to, you can't "hop off" at a system along the way because seldom would the straight line ever pass through another star system. Also cynoing is akin to instantaneous stargate transportation as opposed to in system warping. Suck it up and keep using those cyno alts.

Do you understand the difference between AU and light years? Because 1 ly is approximately 63,240 AU. What you're describing in 3 dimensions mind you is hitting a gnat with a bullet 10 miles apart.

A capital ship moves from point A to point B. Along the path, the capital ship may pass near enough to the systems between the two points to actually be "in" them. Sure the ship is "in jump" during the travel, but even a ship "in warp" still appears in local.

Are you saying that the travel time would make it a pain? Well, assuming that a carrier "jumps" at the same rate as it warps, then it moves at 1.5 AU/s. Minus acceleration and deceleration time, that calculates to 13/1.5 or 8.6 seconds. 30s align time, 10 seconds acceleration, 10 seconds deceleration. Travel time is about 50s. And caps are slow, so you must have enough patience to handle that kind of travel time.

Why should it be possible to predict where they land? I am sure that you could easily tell me how a cap fleet warping to a location of their choosing without a cyno could be a good thing.
If the slow Titan can instantly move halfway across the Eve universe, times 50 and destroy a capital fleet in the blink of an eye, who in their right mind would want to pull out their capital ships?
Everyone alliance has scouts and spies. A cloaked alt can be quite useful, true. Huge supercaps dotting the Eve in-game map is also a good thing.

I understand all those things. Now you are just trolling. Now where is that bridge .. oh there it is .. off you go.

Even if the systems are spheres 30 AU in diameter (or whatever the largest system is)? how can a cap ship travel up to 14.625 AU with dozens of systems between the start and destination point, and NOT pass within 15 AU of any system's sun? Your assertion that a path rarely crosses within 15 AU of another sun appears difficult to believe. If you are right, then you won't show up in local, no problem. For instance, A jump between Fliet and neighboring Deven is 0.516 ly. I bet both systems are larger than that by many times. Jump past Fliet to Heydieles for a distance of 1.6 ly. Beginning at 0.516 ly from Fliet and ending at 1.136 ly from Fliet, you are bound to pass much closer to it during the jump. One of the largest distances in the Eve universe without systems between seems to be between TCAG-3 and G-M5L3 at 10.977 ly apart.

Yes, I am.

1 AU is, according to wikipedia, approximately 63,241 AU. Meaning it would take SIX DAYS to warp 13 LY Please learn how astronomical distances are calculated, and the difference between a light year and an astronomical unit.

I am now intrigued by this idea of outer system safes, Stranded capitol ships, and six day warps.

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would make it fun. six day warps.... bet you all would respect your industrial wings more. stage caps and supers in realistic locations, and it would stop PL in their tracks.

... bit surprised no one has offered the counter-proposal "biomass yourself" to the OP.

We have important capital discussions here.

bit surprised that you were surprised enough to trash my thread. Move along trolls, move along. Leave the intelligent discussions for those of us more experienced and intelligent pilots who have more to add to the conversation.

But seriously, it sounds like you don't know anything about capitals.

Perhaps the OP would like to read what a JUMP drive actually is and why the cyno field is needed?
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Jump_drive

"Capital ships require a jump target in order for their jump drives to lock onto and create a temporary controlled worm-hole between the origin and destination system."

Your corp name says everything I think about this post.

A Titian jump drive doesn't work any where close to a warp drive. For one, it limited in speed, the warp drive that is. (based on ship type and class) B, Like Masterofone said, they are basically ripping space and time apart, so they are traveling so fast, they would pop up in local, then vanish from local so fast, that you wouldn't even be able to register what happen.

Second, titans do have a counter, their cost to build, operate one, and maintain them. Second, doomsday device doesn't kill everything around them, they can only target one ship at a time, and they have an activation time of 600 seconds, do you know how long 600 seconds of doing nothing is in a 300 vs 300 man fleet?

Also, I would like to join your corp if you can support 50 titans in one battle.


Also killing a cryno user while they are in mid warp doesn't fully solve the problem as they will all just warp to the bookmark that the cryno user created just in case.

Too bad no nearby ships can enter the same wormhole at the same instant. Why not? Maybe because there is no wormhole. Cyno jammers do not prevent wormholes in the system. The duration of a wormhole is not dependent on the distance between systems. CCP has been quite clear that they do not intend to allow ships to generate wormholes. And the wormhole wiki page mentions nothing of jump drives.

I am looking to change the way jump drives work

If a capital pilot were to drop out of jump between systems, this would illustrate the immense distances and impress all Eve pilots of the vastness of Eve.

Travel can and should be fun and enjoyable, and include tactical and counter-tactical elements as well, which is to say allow battle and safety as well.

No.